My daughter and Danish oil.

[Wongo]

Last week I made the little step for her to get on the rocking horse. It was finished with 2 coats of Danish oil. She loves the smell of it. She just can’t stop sniffing it.

Here are some of her quotes.
“I love the smell of the wood Daddy”
“Do you use that (Danish oil) to polish the timber?”
“Can we polish the rocking horse now Daddy?”

On the other hand this is what my wife said
“The timber stinks the whole house”:D

[DJ’s Timber]

Must be the woodgenes she inherited from you Scott :D

[ubeaut]

Stop her sniffing it. It isn't good for her. :mad:

[martrix]

Stop her sniffing it. It isn't good for her. :mad:

ughh, tell me about. I was using it for about 4 hours today and now I feel wiped. Probably the heat too..

Neil, how bad is it?

[AlexS]

Don't worry Martrix, you'll have a nice finish.:D

Seriously, when I worked with chemists, they used to say that if you can smell a solvent, you're being poisoned.

Maybe a bit of an exageration, but they don't tell you to use it in a well ventilated area for nothing.

[ubeaut]

Think you nailed that on pretty well Alex.

The theory goes something like: stronger the aromatics the worse it is for you.

This is why we use mineral turpentine in our waxes rather then pure turpentine. The pure turps is thought to be the reason why many of the old time artists were a bit off their heads. It is also roumered to cause such things as kidney failure f absorbed throught the pores of the skin. but that's another story.

Think you will also find the oils keep the poly in a soft state for a much longer time and that poly being pretty nasty stuff in itself will be adding to the the fumes.

I certainly wouldn't be letting my children in the same room with the stuff, let alone let them sniff at it. Wongo's beautiful little girl is much too young to be sniffing that stuff. Hell I'm 57 and I reckon I'm much too young to sniffing that stuff.
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[Wongo]

Thanks Neil.:o I will keep her away from that stuff.

I made a chopping board the other day. She wanted me to put it in her bedroom but I didn’t.:eek:

:)

[Shannon]

My Dad has been a full time landscape arstist - in oil painting - for nearly 30 years. About ten years ago he started having a few problems health wise (not mental, but generally feeling unwell). After investigation it was found to be the tools of his trade, mainly the turps used consistantly for cleaning. He changed to mineral, built himself an extractor and left doors open in the studio. Has worked very well so far.

Amazing what we do to ourselves without even knowing it sometimes. MDF, aesbestos, DDT the list will go on as long as we are testing and discovering I guess.

[Jedo_03]

Thanks Neil.:o I will keep her away from that stuff.

I made a chopping board the other day. She wanted me to put it in her bedroom but I didn’t.:eek:

:)

Didn't have Danish Oil on it? - Did it?
Don't thinks it's recommended for food utensils. .
Cheers
Jedo

[Wongo]

No of course not. It is Hard Burnishing Oil.

[ubeaut]

http://www.ubeaut.biz/fie.gif YUCK!!! http://www.ubeaut.biz/drop.gif

[new woodworker]

Why not use the hard burnishing oil?

[rsser]

Re the DO coated steps .. just let them, or similar, sit for a week or two to go off.

That said, I use Rustins on most of my turnings and have never felt any ill effects.

[bystander]

Can't stand by any longer.

:eek:

Get rid of that chopping board. I don't know of any "Food Grade" Burnishing oils. If you can't drink it don't use it. I make chopping boards for a crust, only ever use "VEGETABLE OIL" as a minimum. If your making it for yourself then invest in "GRAPESEED OIL" only $3. for small bottle but best commercial oil on the market, won't go rancid either.

[Wongo]

Welcome bystander.

Well maybe you know something we don't know. On the organoil website http://www.organoil.com.au/woodcraft/index.html it says very clear that hard burnishing oil is safe for food serving items.

I am not questioning your expertise but who should I listen now?

[bystander]

See what you mean. Don't throw that board out.

Commercially though I will stick with something sold as a food that does the job satisfactorily.

[baxter]

Is the drying time the secret with DO or am I just confused (no need to answer that).

On the Organoil website,for Danish Oil, under the Woodcraft tab, there is reference to "Uponcuring /drying (min 14 days)...". Then under uses it includes CHILDREN'S TOYS.

If you then look at "Olde Style" Danish Oil (under Danish Oil tab) it says "Once dry, is both FOOD and CHILD-SAFE".

[rsser]

Yes as far as I know it is about drying time. It's got to harden or polymerize or somesuch.

btw Stott the famous box turner also says DO is food safe.

[RufflyRustic]

Who should Wongo listen to?

In my humble opinion, I listen to UBeaut first, especially about finishes.

cheers
Wendy

[baxter]

Who should Wongo listen to?

In my humble opinion, I listen to UBeaut first, especially about finishes.

cheers
Wendy

Wendy I am not in a position to question anything Ubeaut says about finishing, however there seems to be some confusion this is why I raised the question.

Danish Oil is used extensively by many woodworkers. However I didn't read Ubeaut's explanatory post as infering that we should not use Danish Oil or that it was not food or child safe. Instead I read the reply as infering that we shouldn't use it in confined spaces or, in Wongo's particular case, let his daughter sniff the fumes (probably until a reasonable time had elapsed:confused: ).

As Ern said, he uses Danish Oil (Rustin's) without any ill affects. Similarly, my wife and I both use Danish Oil (also prefer Rustin's - complementary parcel awaited:D :D ) without ill affect and know of many others who also use Danish Oil from different manufacturers or recipe mixed.

Possibly Ubeaut might elaborate further so that the situation can be clarified.

[RufflyRustic]

Hi Baxter,

I, too, am not in a position to question but do appreciate others may be somewhat confused, especially to the questions? / points in this particular discussion.

I apologise if I've confused or put anyone offside. Maybe I should have pm'd Wongo instead :rolleyes: Ain't hindsight a wonderful thing :o

cheers
Wendy

[Geoff Allen]

All this talk of sniffing is going to my head. Not sure its the oil could be the glue!
Can't see how anybody could take offense at the comments earlier but it is a reminder to be careful about what we immerse ourselves in/inhale/consume.

[Tex B]

I like the smell of Danish Oil.

Reminds me of leaded petrol ;)

Tex

[Wongo]

Geoff,

I think we are no long talking about sniffing Danish oil. It is more about what’s wrong with hard burnishing oil on chopping boards.

[baxter]

Hi Wendy

At no time have I meant to offend anybody and I certainly had not taken offense from what anybody else has said in this thread. I agree with you as to who should Wongo listen to. I am sure that we would all like clarification.

As I see it, Ubeaut is suggesting that we should be careful during and immediately after application (ventilation, storage etc). While the Organoil website indicates that, after a period of time (apparently 14 days), Danish Oil is food and child-safe. If this is the case, then there is no conflict between the two scenarios.

All that I would like to know is, is this an accurate summation of the situation, or should we just avoid using Danish Oil.

[Ikkyu]

Mmmmmmm Danish oil

[RufflyRustic]

Hi Baxter, All is good.

In my limited experience, using Danish oil, while being whiffy wasn't bad and didn't 'smell' that much. However, I'll never forget the very massive headache I got from Hard Burnishing Oil - lovely smell, yes, but not worth the headache I got, even though I was applying it outside with a bit of a breeze blowing :rolleyes:

cheers
Wendy