Timber garage floor

[echnidna]

I'm going to build a stud wall "garage" as my shed.

As I don't need a planning permit for a house then I obviously don't need a planning permit for a class x building (garage).

As the works will cost less than $5000 I don't need a building permit.

However I intend to comply with building regulations.

If I build a workshop it might not be class x so it might need planning approval.

I want to build a timber floor.

So What timber sizes will be needed in the floor to support a car, not that there will ever be a car in it.

[Bleedin Thumb]

Wouldn't you need an Engineers Certificate for a timber floor that has to take those sort of loads?

[ausdesign]

Bob, because you didn't need a planning permit for the house doesn't necessarily mean you don't need one for the class10. i.e. anything over an easement will.
If the 'garage' is not freestanding you need a building permit.
If its over 10m2 - building permit.
Any masonry - building permit
Over 3 met. in height - building permit.

Residential floor loads are taken as 1.5kN/m2 - how that equates to 4 point loads from a car i'm blowed if i know. The engineer suggestion sounds good !

[echnidna]

Thanks Peter
I retired a few years ago but rules and regs haven't taken holidays.
So that's what I'm a bit rusty on

There are no easements. If there was I'd just locate the shed accordingly.

There was a time not so long ago that a building permit wasn't required for works below $5K - doesn't that apply any more?

If I have to stuff around with TP regardless I will alter the shed from a Garage to a bungalow or etc and just go with the wood floor ( I hate concrete workshop floors)

[duckman]

Bob,
as you stated in your first post that there will never be a car in it, why not go with a concrete floor and then after any inspections, if any are required,;) , fix battens to the concrete and lay a timber floor on them?

Making the battens deep enough to accomodate DC ducting might not be cost effective, if that is one of your design goals, but at least you would get your timber floor.

Just a thought.

Cheers,

Mark.

[ausdesign]

As part of the Building Regulations 2006 building permit requirements are now based on the scope of building work rather than the value of work.
[I]Somethings just aren't sacred anymore Bob !

[echnidna]

mmmmmm,

gee isn't that lucky ,
I finished the building on October 9th

[Pulse]

G'day Bob here (http://www.hyne.com.au/downloads/dih_downloads_v5/TDSHEETS/TRADAC/07_commercial_decks.pdf) is a tradac info sheet for commercial, marine and industrial decking including 13kN point loads (their recommendation for cars).

Hope it helps

Cheers
Pulse

[ausdesign]

Bob, one good thing - if it's under 12 thou you don't have to get an owner builders 'Certificate of Consent' before you apply for the building permit. :)
A class 10a covers 'a non habitable building' - garages, carports, sheds.

At the end of the day i'm sure the guys at corangamite will turn a blind eye for a local ;)

[echnidna]

Thanks Pulse, I didn't know where to find that.

Thanks Peter, I needed the regs update.
Sadly Its Moyne shire instead of Corangamite but oh well.
At least I am experienced in TP lingo even tho things have changed