New Mods?

[Felder]

Have we picked up a few new Moderators over the weekend? :confused:

In the Prize Draw #8 thread, Groggy alluded to fixing UBeaut's post (gutsy, Greg ;) ), and a post by Hughie was edited by Ruffly Rustic in a thread asking how to contact Richard Raffan.... :confused:

If so - congratulations guys, and thanks for taking on the role of Moderator! http://www.ubeaut.biz/claps.gif

Or have you two always been Mods and I've just never noticed? :o

Any other new Mods lurking out there? :p

[Wood Butcher]

Any other new Mods lurking out there? :p

Maybe there is and maybe there isn't:cool:

[bitingmidge]

For every new Mod there's a Bodgy just round the corner lying in wait.....

:cool: :cool: :cool:

P

[silentC]

Hey Felder, didn't they make you a mod? I am, and as far as I know so is everyone else now. They must have missed you mate, surely they didn't do it deliberately...

[Felder]

Hey Felder, didn't they make you a mod? I am, and as far as I know so is everyone else now. They must have missed you mate, surely they didn't do it deliberately...
Neil is probably trying to contact me, but I've got UBeaut on my "Ignore List". That includes phone calls, e-mails, faxes, and even face-to-face contact. :)

:p

[Stuart]

Isn't that a Beatles song?

He's a mod, he's a mod, he's a mod, yeah yeah yeah yeah

[felixe]

For every new Mod there's a Bodgy just round the corner lying in wait.....

:cool: :cool: :cool:

P


Maybe we need to see an escallation of "bodgy" antics:eek: within the forum to flush out these closet moderators??:D :D :p

[silentC]

Not The Beatles I don't think. Anyway, they weren't singing about me, never worn a pair of stovepipes in my life. :p

So what do you have to do to become a mod? I mean, I'm probably permanently inelligible, like I am for jury duty ;) Is there a course you have to do, or a secret initiation like in the Freemasons?

:D

[duckman]

Isn't that a Beatles song?

He's a mod, he's a mod, he's a mod, yeah yeah yeah yeah

I think that should be "She's a mod etc. (I could be wrong about the "she") but it was, if memory serves me correctly, sung by Ray Brown and the Whispers.:)

[craigb]

Is there a course you have to do, or a secret initiation like in the Freemasons?

:D

Probably the latter ;) :D

[craigb]

Any other new Mods lurking out there? :p

What? They are making the lurkers mods now? :eek:
:D

[silentC]

sung by Ray Brown and the Whispers
Google says it was Ray Columbus and the Invaders.

Whoever the hell they were... :rolleyes:

[Felder]

Ray Columbus and the Invaders.

Whoever the hell they were... :rolleyes:
Didn't they sing that song about Mods? :rolleyes:

[silentC]

Nah, you're thinking of The Who. They did a whole movie about Mods.

[felixe]

C,mon guys, lets focus! How are we going to flush out these "clandestines" :D

[Felder]

C,mon guys, lets focus! How are we going to flush out these "clandestines" :D
Well I found two of 'em. I can't do all the work around here.

Howsabout a clue, oh Governors of the Forum? How many new mods were admitted to the Ivory Tower over the weekend? :p Just the two, or were there more?

[felixe]

Well I found two of 'em. I can't do all the work around here.

I tried typing in some naughty words, but it automatically bans them!!:mad: :eek: :D

[Stuart]

Google says it was Ray Columbus and the Invaders.

Whoever the hell they were... :rolleyes:
That sounds better. I tend to lump all that era under the one "Beatles" banner. I know, heathen to some, hero to others and the rest don't care :)

[Stuart]

I tried typing in some naughty words, but it automatically bans them!!:mad: :eek: :D
Just means the "mods" type faster than you do.......

(insert "twilight Zone" music here)

[Felder]

That sounds better. I tend to lump all that era under the one "Beatles" banner. I know, heathen to some, hero to others and the rest don't care :)
:eek::eek:

It's a hijack!! A Mod is trying to distract us from finding out stuff about Mods!! Don your foilies folks! This could get brutal!

:eek:

[silentC]

While we're on the subject, what's the difference between a "mod" and an "admin"?

[Felder]

AHA!!

Found where they were hiding! ;)

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showgroups.php

[Felder]

For every new Mod there's a Bodgy just round the corner lying in wait.....
Quick question:

If Bodgy (http://www.woodworkforums.com/member.php?u=6735) ever became a Mod, would the world implode? :confused:

[Stuart]

While we're on the subject, what's the difference between a "mod" and an "admin"?Amount of corruption.


(Power corrupts apparently ;) )

[silentC]

Wow, we have Super Moderators!! Do other forums have them, or are we just lucky? What super powers do they have? There's this bloke that annoys me a bit and I wondered if one or two super mods could pay him a visit, you know rough him up a bit with the ole heat vision or ice breath or whatever....

[Felder]

Is Zed no longer a mod?

[duckman]

Google says it was Ray Columbus and the Invaders.

Whoever the hell they were... :rolleyes:

Well I was close, sort of:o :o

[silentC]

Is Zed no longer a mod?
Being a mod is a way of life, not just a label. You can take away the houndstooth trousers and the sunnies, you can rip the, lets face it, ludicrous collection of wing mirrors off the Vespa, but once a mod, always a mod.

Unless you ride your scooter of Beachey Head, in which case you are an ex-mod...

[craigb]

Who the hell is chromis? :confused:

[craigb]

Wow, we have Super Moderators!! Do other forums have them, or are we just lucky? What super powers do they have? ....

More importantly, do they wear their underpants on the outside of their clothes?

[RufflyRustic]

....

If so - congratulations guys, and thanks for taking on the role of Moderator! http://www.ubeaut.biz/claps.gif

...

Thanks Felder



More importantly, do they wear their underpants on the outside of their clothes?

NO! Yerch!!


.. Ivory Tower ...

The only Ivory I know about is the white stuff on the Piano Keys...

cheers
Wendy

[duckman]

Who the hell is chromis? :confused:
I was wondering that myself. He's been a member for less than a year, has 66 posts in total and hasn't been on the board since 9 September 2006.:confused:

[Wood Butcher]

Who the hell is chromis? :confused:
She was the one that came up with the idea of reorganising the Home Reno Forums and was made a moderator to help sort it all out. She also burred up Stoppers leading to him being banned for a week:eek:

She hasn't been around for a while but occasionally logs in to see what is happening. I think she is also in the middle of renovating her own house and is busy with that at the moment.

[Stuart]

You'd have to ask Neil the specifics, but in a nutshell, chromis and TEEJAY were given mod status for a specific task, in a specific forum with most mod abilities disabled. It's like being an administrator in windows - if your account isn't administrator, there are places in the operating system you can't go, things you can't do.

In the same way, the forum software has Administrators, Super Mods, Moderators, Users etc.

Super moderators have additional abilities - banning the pricks that spam the forums etc, and can operate in all the forums.

Moderators are limited to which forum they are in, and do stuff like delete / edit posts etc.

Administrators, well, just don't em off if you don't want to see what they are capable of ;)

[silentC]

I think that the structure is top heavy. Too many layers. We need more layers down here amongst the plebs. We can have users, super users, super dooper users and irritating prats. I'd also like to see the purple circle and the 'holier than thou' formalised, with appropriate criteria for selection for membership. Then someone can create a tearaway faction titled "users in favour of going back to how it used to be". It could be the best thing since the rep system was introduced.

[craigb]

I think that the structure is top heavy. Too many layers. We need more layers down here amongst the plebs. We can have users, super users, super dooper users and irritating prats. I'd also like to see the purple circle and the 'holier than thou' formalised, with appropriate criteria for selection for membership. Then someone can create a tearaway faction titled "users in favour of going back to how it used to be". It could be the best thing since the rep system was introduced.

That's worth a greenie. :D

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Two more to put on my ignore list. At this rate, I'll soon have no-one to natter at! :(


Super moderators have additional abilities - banning the pricks that spam the forums etc, and can operate in all the forums.

Moderators are limited to which forum they are in, and do stuff like delete / edit posts etc.

Administrators, well, just don't em off if you don't want to see what they are capable of ;)

And LineLefty fits in... where?

Listed as mod for 'Best of The Best,' yet apparently neither a mod, supermod nor admin. Or weren't we s'posed to notice that? ;)

[Gra]

I think that the structure is top heavy. Too many layers. We need more layers down here amongst the plebs. We can have users, super users, super dooper users and irritating prats. I'd also like to see the purple circle and the 'holier than thou' formalised, with appropriate criteria for selection for membership. Then someone can create a tearaway faction titled "users in favour of going back to how it used to be". It could be the best thing since the rep system was introduced.

Can I be part of the irritating prats, can I can I ....

Oh I already am... DOH

[silentC]

Ah, well you see, membership of the irritating prats is a bit like insanity. If you think you are, then you aren't. Only the ones who think they are not, truely are. You see? Genius!!

[Felder]

Ah, well you see, membership of the irritating prats is a bit like insanity. If you think you are, then you aren't. Only the ones who think they are not, truely are. You see? Genius!!

I'm not. ;)

[felixe]

I think that the structure is top heavy. Too many layers. We need more layers down here amongst the plebs. We can have users, super users, super dooper users and irritating prats. I'd also like to see the purple circle and the 'holier than thou' formalised, with appropriate criteria for selection for membership. Then someone can create a tearaway faction titled "users in favour of going back to how it used to be". It could be the best thing since the rep system was introduced.

I agree with silent C, c'mon guys get with the "new millenium", it's time to dump the top heavy sytem and adopt a flatter, horizontal management structure.:D :D ( I am available for consult!!:D :D :D )

[Christopha]

C,mon guys, lets focus! How are we going to flush out these "clandestines" :D
Bloody Hell!!! any posts about making Candlesteins should be in the blasted "Woodturning" section!

[felixe]

Bloody Hell!!! any posts about making Candlesteins should be in the blasted "Woodturning" section!

Aha! I found another one, Christopha obviously wants to be one!

[Felder]

Aha! I found another one, Christopha obviously wants to be one!

Been there, done that :rolleyes:

[ozwinner]

More loco than a powerful motion.

http://www.lemmongrove.com/img/comic-book-super-hero.jpg

Al :p

[ubeaut]

From deleted post

Why would Neil think we need more moderating, hell, we're squeekier than a teenage boy whose balls are dropping. :eek:

We're squeaky, not just because of the members but also in spite of them. We're squeaky, mostly because of the Mods and Admin.

We need more moderating because we currently get over 5 million hits a month. Along with those hits we get more than our fair share of idiots, morons, and spammers who need to be watched and culled etc. to keep this a great place for you to visit.

If it wasn't for the tireless work of the moderators and admin there wouldn't be as many woodwork related posts, because every thread would be overrun with spam and adds from bastards selling , mobile phones, little blue pills, holidays, dodgy real estate and investment deals and a whole lot more.

A team of fair, evenhanded, and impartial moderators is essential to the success of Woodwork Forums. Without them we wouldn't be rated # 1 by Google and many other search engines when you do a search for woodwork.

More than 150 hours a week of work every week, up front and behind the scenes is done by our dedicated team of Moderators and at least another 60 or more by the administrators.

The position of Super Moderator is one of extreme trust and I don't take lightly the choosing of those I will eventually ask to to take on the job. Especially in light of past events. I weigh up all the pro's and con's of many prospective members (it could be anyone) before asking them to come on board as a moderator.

The chosen few have to be willing and able to sacrifice a substantial part of their free hours to keep an ever watchful eye on the forums. They are all very special people who take on the position with the full knowledge that it is a completely voluntary, frustrating and mostly thankless job that may alienate them from former friends and put them in the firing line of all manner of idiot.

They have to walk a fine line between being a welcome member of the forums and being despised as an upholder of rules and decorum etc. They often have to give up their freedom to join in the fun as a member of the great unwashed in preference to sitting back and watching on for fear they may have to edit one of their friends and be sniped at for doing so.

There are many dozens of posts from spammers, political activists and all sorts of other weirdo's that never see the light of day or are deleted within minutes of being put on because of behind the scenes work done by Admin and the Super Mods. Because it is mostly goes unseen there is a general feeling that we don't need them. You have no idea just how wrong you really are.

With the forum growing at around 10% every couple of months, it is feasible that we will have around 10 million hits by Christmas next year. This will mean more mods yet again.

All of my Administrators, Super Moderators, have been chosen for their specific abilities and their undeniable passion and love for these forums.

You don't have to like them, you don't have to respect them, ALTHOUGH YOU BLOODY WELL SHOULD, you don't even have to talk to them if you don't wish. However a thank you from time to time would (I'm sure) be most welcomed.

Uncalled for posts like this (now deleted one) won't be tolerated even though they may be done in jest.
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Wendy wears no undies. :eek:
Al makes a big motion :eek:
Stuart is a namby pamby Triton user :rolleyes:

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Posts like this and the multitude of time wasting, hijacking, irrelevant, drivel, abusive, degrading, sexist, antisemitic, extreme political, racist, etc, etc are the other reason we need more moderation. Hundreds of these absolutely useless and irrelevant posts are deleted every week. Yet still we have thousands not yet removed and clogging up out server space. Does anyone really need to ask why we need mods or admin.

_________________________________

I apologise for not informing members earlier that we had new moderators. However I have been somewhat snowed under with other, much more important and pressing issues.

I would like to welcome on board our 4 new Super Moderators:
Groggy (Greg) - Scooter (Sean) - Daddles (Richard) - Rufflyrustic (Wendy)

They join our existing Super Moderators:
Stuart (Stuart) - ozwinner (Al) - Wood Butcher - (Rowan)
And exhisting moderators for specific forums:
chromis (Home Renovations) - Teejay (Inspirational Web Sites) - LineLefty (Best of the Best)
Administrators:
ubeaut (Neil - Forum owner) - (Ian) - cyc (Steven - Tech support) - Shane Watson (Shane is recently married and on extended sabbatical)

If you wish to see all info on mods admin etc click HERE (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/showgroups.php) or on the View Forum Leaders link toward the bottom of the home page.

Cheers - Neil :)
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[DJ’s Timber]

Hear Hear:)

I would like to offer my thanks to all the mods:) and admin:) for there tireless work in keeping these forums clean and free of the other rubbish that is not wanted here.

I have met some of these mods and admin and they are cool people with feelings just like us as well :cool:

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Personally, I'm a bit surprised at some of the posts in this thread.

After all, we're playing in Neil's backyard and 'tis entirely up to him who he hires as gardeners, watch-dogs, whatever. As to who is a moderator, it shouldn't really matter... unless you're one of those people who only dares to thumb their noses at authority when their backs are turned! :rolleyes:

One forum I used to haunt, once upon a time, had SS moderators. Whoever they were in public, they had secret alter-ego accounts for their moderation duties... I think it's fair to say there was no sense of "community" on that forum. Paranoia, yes... community, no. At least here we know who's carrying a big stick and, let's face it, they're really a bunch of big softies. :p

[ozwinner]

Voluntary?? http://www.ubeaut.biz/mecry.gifhttp://www.ubeaut.biz/emotional.gif

Now you tell me!!!http://www.ubeaut.biz/gonnagetit.gif

Al :p

[echnidna]

Hear Hear:)

I would like to offer my thanks to all the mods:) and admin:) for there tireless work in keeping these forums clean and free of the other rubbish that is not wanted here.


Fully agree.
Thank you to Neil and all the mods

[bennylaird]

Bugr??????

time wasting, hijacking, irrelevant, drivel, abusive, degrading, sexist, antisemitic, extreme political, racist, etc

doesn't leave much for me to post about then????:D :D :D

[Cliff Rogers]

.....doesn't leave much for me to post about then????:D :D :D
Off to the jokes forum for you now. ;) :D

[BobL]

Hats off and triple group greenies to all admins and mods. This is by far the cleanest & friendliest forum I have been a part of since the web started.

How about the mods post some of the "best of the worst" (with modifications to rude bits and names removed etc) every month or so? Could be good for a laugh?

[bennylaird]

Off to the jokes forum for you now. ;) :D



Could still transgress there? Just open slather perhaps?:confused: :confused: :D

[sea dragon]

Hats off to all the powers that be, Administrators and the Moderators of all degree. Neil made many good points. Perhaps that post should be available for wider reading.
Until then, I had been wryly smiling that the Friday threaders had managed to get going on a day other than Friday.
This is both an incredibly friendly forum and an extraordinary resource, probably because so many are willing to give so freely of themselves.
It is almost inevitable that the Mods have to temper some of the rsponses they make, in keeping with their responsibilities so thank you for being willing to make sacrifices to keep this Forum as effective as it is.

All the talk about Mods reminds me of the period when they had Mods and Rockers in England. Ringo Starr was asked which he was and he replied, "I'm a Mocker." :D Answers like that undoubtedly got him his big break, becoming the narrator on the "Thomas the Tank Engine" series.

[silentC]

I've just been through this thread and read every post. Buggered if I can see where anyone had even the vaguest of digs at the moderators old or new. Most of it is just off-topic waffle. Maybe the insulting stuff was all deleted?

If any mods felt insulted, and I can't for the life of me see why they would have, then they need to develop tougher skins. I'm sure we all appreciate what they do and that they do it voluntarily and in their own free time. People should be judged by their actions. A mod should be just as open to criticism as anyone else, notwithstanding that they have extra responsibilities, but not because they are mods.

I personally don't care who is and who isn't a mod. I'm not going to tiptoe around anyone because they have the power to alter or delete my posts or ban me from the forum. That's a matter for them and their conscience.

As for drivel, hijacking etc. it's up to the forum owner to decide if it's tolerated or not. But make it clear one way or the other. It either is or it isn't.

[Sturdee]

Voluntary?? http://www.ubeaut.biz/mecry.gifhttp://www.ubeaut.biz/emotional.gif

Now you tell me!!!http://www.ubeaut.biz/gonnagetit.gif

Al :p


You could always do it "Pro Bono":D :D :D

Congratulations to the members who are now being elevated to the high office of Moderator. Keep up the good work.

We may not always like your decisions but someone has to do it and I don't hold it against you.:D



Peter.

[ozwinner]

I don't hold it against you.:D



Peter.

So who do you hold it against, hmmm. :rolleyes:

Al :p :D

[Sturdee]

So who do you hold it against, hmmm. :rolleyes:

Al :p :D

The pollies of course, they are the root of all evil.:D :D :D


Peter.

[felixe]

:D Silent C I agree with you, I didn't see any criticism of the moderators or administrators, just some banter to fill in a monday.:D

Anyway, its good to see the moderators "outed" by Neil. They should be made public and it should be announced,as it should be seen as a valued and well regarded "position" (probably not the best description) within the community that is this forum. :)

Hell, If I was a moderator I would want everyone to know and I would be loudly and proudly "virtually" strutting around with a badge on my chest (maybe I would borrow it from ozwinners avatar).

New mods? - Congratulations.:D

[Stuart]

Holding things against you.......rooting.........this will be heading to the orange room shortly at this rate!

[outback]

Well I guess it's all out in the open now. It was my post, which was deleted and I incurred the wrath and an official infraction which stirred up the hornets nest.

I have had a discussion via PM with Stuart regarding this, not a dummy spitting, toy throwing argument, but a civilised discussion.

I find the comments regarding the requirement of a thicker skin interesting, as I made the same comment to Stuart.

I have never abused, belittled, or berated a moderator. I do carry on with time wasting waffle. It is this waffle which attracted me to the forum, and which kept me coming back. The change in moderation style now sees me skimming more, reading less and rarely posting.

I absolutely respect Neils decision to run the board as he sees fit, obviously with the exponential growth he is doing something right. For me however things get a bit dull round here, and any effort to lighten it up is stamped out.

This is not a whinge, I'm not leaving, I am however looking for a sense of humour to hand out to some deserving members, perhaps when I found some I can donate them for the weekly draw.

[echnidna]

This is not a whinge, I'm not leaving, I am however looking for a sense of humour to hand out to some deserving members, perhaps when I found some I can donate them for the weekly draw.

Shame on yer outback :D

Bout time yer become a mod as punishment for your wicked ways :rolleyes:

[silentC]

The change in moderation style now sees me skimming more, reading less and rarely posting.
I don't know if I have really noticed a change in moderation style. I may occasionally wonder why one post was deleted or censored and another post not. I put this down to the enormity of the task and the responsibility being spread across different people with different opinions.

There's not too much to complain about from that point of view. It's fairly clear from some of the comments made that the "drivel" is not particularly welcome. So far it is tolerated - why have a formal 'Friday Thread', Open Slather, Nothing to do with Woodworking if it is not?

I guess it's more of a problem in the hierarchy's mind when the 'real' threads get clogged up with it. Personally, I don't care if it gets deleted. I came here to post about woodworking related things. I have an interest in woodworking and in building, which I'm happy to post about. I also have a sense of humour, like to get on a soapbox every now and then, and like to take the p!ss out of people and situations. So far, that has been tolerated and I am thankful for it.

If this situation changes, well, I will continue to post about woodworking and building but I will miss the humorous exchanges and general larikinism that goes on and I will miss the characters who leave because it's "not fun any more". Mostly...

If it changes, then I guess people will still come here to post about woodworking etc. But I recall more than a few comments from people who have experienced other forums that make me think that there might be more to this forum than the woodwork related content which makes it popular. I could be wrong.

[Stuart]

You're not wrong, and we are all here for similar reasons, and not just woodworking related ones.

Ever tried reading a majority of the threads posted in just one day? faroutkinghell!

I for one, read threads with titles of interest to me, and watch out for suspect titles acorss the forums, with the knowledge that if it does get out of hand somewhere, the forum itself tends to react (reporting the post etc), so I know where to look to see what (if anything) needs to be tidied up. So in a very real way, everyone here is a moderator, and by reporting a post or by having a go at a post that you don't agree with, you are keeping the forums in a state that you want them to be.

Just because a few of us have the ability to alter / delete posts etc, doesn't mean we are the only ones who influence how our community functions. The fact that this place works so well is a credit to all members, not just the few mods/admins.

[Cliff Rogers]

Yeah Outback, get into line.... right behind me & Benny. :p

I agree that there is a fair amount of regulation/moderation from the general members too.

I report spam as soon as I see it.

If somebody posts in the wrong area, they are told fairly quickly by the other members.

If somebody posts something that others don't agree with or think is not good advice, they are also told fairly quickly by the other members.

If somebody posts something funny or off topic, it is fairly quickly added to by the other members. :D

[Bleedin Thumb]

What happened to this thread? It started off as a light handed jest and quickly deteriated into heavy apologetic mess.:confused:

Neil, I can't imagine what the pressures running this BB must be, but your reactions do seem a tad over the top sometimes. Besides some tastless humour I don't think anyone was mocking the Mods or your decision to appoint them?

I feel like I have just put my neck on the chopping block... I shouldn't have to feel that way.:mad:

[outback]

Yeah Outback, get into line.... right behind me & Benny. :p
........................................



Wow, what auspicious company. :rolleyes: I feel special, not the kind of special like Santa Claus, or Don Bradman, more like Adolf Hitler or Saddam Hussein. :p

Anyway, shouldn't we all gang up on Felder for starting this mess.

[Cliff Rogers]

...I feel like I have just put my neck on the chopping block... I shouldn't have to feel that way.:mad:
Get over it & get in line.... :D


....Anyway, shouldn't we all gang up on Felder for starting this mess.

Good idea.

[bennylaird]

Yours so right it's all that Bugr Brendans fault, lets get im:eek: :eek: :p

I'm gunna slip him a mickey(that's a drink you lot:rolleyes: 0 in the Friday thread (What's a Friday thread?), well get him pussed and tie him up out front of the post office in his birthday suit?


Now what's all this talk of drivel etc on this formum??? Where????:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p

[bennylaird]

Who wants to ring Felders and talk about a big deal but you only want to talk to a guy called Brendan. Your not sure what time to be there but can he wait around on Sat till you get there? Sound a good plan??????:D :D