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Iain
30th October 2006, 07:21 PM
We just treated ourselves to a new Weber Q gas BBQ after getting sick of all the hot and cold spots in the old one, one major difference is that you cook with the hood down.
Gave it a whirl and works great but hate brushing oil so went and bought a can of spray on olive oil.
Gave the steaks a spray before cooking, place on grill, shut lid, wait 5 minutes, they look great.
Now is the time to spray with oil before turning over, get can of oil, point at steak, press button and bloody WHOOOOOOF, just had a major flare up, not just a flare up but something like a 1 metre fireball.
What the hell happened.
Thismorning while contemplating brekky the offending can is on the kitchen table and I am reading the back, finest olive oil from the hills of wherever pressed by the bare feet of peasants of whatever.
Propellant (in very fine print) BUTANE!!!!!!!
Bloody hell, be nice if we knew this before spraying at the BBQ with the little gas flames just dying do their stuff and cremate my eyebrows, a more prominent notice certainly wouldn't go astray.
Beware BBQ lovers, these stuff is dangerous.

echnidna
30th October 2006, 07:28 PM
Jeesh Iain,

Don't use that stuff on the barby if yer wearin yer kilt.

Yer might end up bald below:eek:

Toolin Around
30th October 2006, 07:31 PM
The moment I read the heading I was thinking it was a bad product - spray on olive oil. Sounds suspect as to what chemicals are included to make olive oil thin enough to use as an aerosol.

Cliff Rogers
30th October 2006, 07:32 PM
Mate, have a look around the kitchen shops, it is possible to get a plastic pump up spray bottle for oil.
You fill it to about 3/4 with your favourite oil, screw the lid on & pump the bottom of it like a push bike pump.
It has a regular press button spray nozzle & doesn't have any nasty Ozone depleting, cancer causing chemicals in it. ;)

Flowboy
30th October 2006, 08:26 PM
Hi Iain,

I'm with Cliff. Those doggies work well. Might be worth using Extra Virgin Olive oil as well, I think it has a higher flash point. Just don't use Crisco or Canola ( read Rape Seed) oil, then yer kilt will aflame! Ochh

Regards

Rob

bitingmidge
30th October 2006, 08:31 PM
Question:

Why use oil on the Weber anyway? :confused:

Have used the Weber exclusively for more than ten years, and never felt the need to use oil. (Or clean the grille for that matter :eek: )

P

Tex B
30th October 2006, 08:48 PM
Cliff & Midge both make good points as usual. I often marinade meat in olive oil (and other stuff) for a few hours before cooking on the weber. The drips really get the flames going, and usually after I turn everything off and remove the meat, there are still flames for several minutes. Doesn't do that with unmarinated meat, so it's got to be the olive oil. Also had some light up when I was preheating in a saucepan, left to open a bottle of red, came back and had a pan of flames on the stove. :eek:

Bottom line, olive oil = flammable liquid. With or without butane. Even with a pump bottle I wouldn't spray it on the barbie without a face mask.

Maybe a brush?

Tex

Iain
30th October 2006, 09:00 PM
Weber Q Weber Q Weber Q Weber Q Weber Q Weber Q
Not kettle, this is the one with the stainless steel gas ring running the perimeter of the unit.
http://www.weber.com/q/default.aspx
Thought about a pump spray but it was a spur of the moment thing.
My main point was butane as a propellant rather than an inert gas.

John Saxton
30th October 2006, 09:01 PM
Personally I prefer to brush on the olive oil in a mixture of butter with a touch of vinegar and herbs!

Brushing definately the way to go!

Cheers:)

Iain
30th October 2006, 09:06 PM
Yes John, but this is a new toy and I am still playing (and paying:o ).
I sometimes like a steak 'au naturale' without the assistance of any influence, apart from that I do use butter, herbs and my favourite balsamic, and I might add, the Q is a great little BBQ, albeit not much change from $600:(
I don't like brushes much as they clag up quickly but I have seen the new range of silicon brushes which are claimed to be dishwasher safe.
Might try one soon.

Tex B
30th October 2006, 09:18 PM
Didn't realise there was butane in the spray olive oil. Who reads ingredients?

My kids used to love aerosol cheese, came out like some kind of cake icing. I never wanted to know what was in it, but pretty sure there wasn't much cheese.

Butane? guess I'll stick to brushing or marinating.

Tex

Honorary Bloke
30th October 2006, 10:08 PM
My main point was butane as a propellant rather than an inert gas.

Yeah, we know, but why should we stay on topic against all precedent? :D :D

Maybe you can light your cigarette with it? :p

Iain
31st October 2006, 07:33 AM
Who reads ingredients?


Tex
My point exactly




Maybe you can light your cigarette with it? :p

Only problem, apart from the fact I don't smoke, is that with the wide pattern it would take out your head and a person either side of you:D
See, smoking is not a health hazard, lighting them is, and in this instance, a stand for the passive smokers:D

Doughboy
31st October 2006, 07:44 AM
Iain the brushes you are refering to are brilliant. We use them in our kitchen at work and they do a good job, then are washed at 83 degrees rinse temp and stand up well to the heat.

I won't buy the old sort ever again.

The oil pump bottles are also brilliant.

Pete

scooter
31st October 2006, 02:59 PM
Iain, the brand name "Whooooomph" on the can should have given it away :D

Shedgirl
3rd November 2006, 12:40 AM
That spray-on oil has instructions on the can: Do Not Spray On Hot Surfaces. Oh, that's right, I forgot. Blokes don't read instructions.;)

sea dragon
3rd November 2006, 11:05 AM
That spray-on oil has instructions on the can: Do Not Spray On Hot Surfaces. Oh, that's right, I forgot. Blokes don't read instructions.;)
Ouch:o
I believe the female has a few different genes to the male, or else they are more dominant. Of relevance to this thread are:
1. "Read instructions" gene; and
2. "I told you so" gene. :D :D

BTW, Iain, now that you no longer have any guns following that buy-back, the good news is that you have a ready weapon of mass destruction available to you.
Merely point, light and spray. Oooicks!!

Iain
3rd November 2006, 04:15 PM
That spray-on oil has instructions on the can: Do Not Spray On Hot Surfaces. Oh, that's right, I forgot. Blokes don't read instructions.;)

#1 Can't cook on a cold surface
#2 Find it hard to read the microfisch warning when the bold print extolls the virtues of this fine olive oil and extends praises for my excellent taste.
#3 Reddy launch, no, I am such a forgiving understanding example of huMANity:D :D :D
#4 Barossa Valley, not Tikki are you???????????????? you sound like you know me a bit too well


Ouch:o
I believe the female has a few different genes to the male, or else they are more dominant. Of relevance to this thread are:
1. "Read instructions" gene; and
2. "I told you so" gene. :D :D

BTW, Iain, now that you no longer have any guns following that buy-back, the good news is that you have a ready weapon of mass destruction available to you.
Merely point, light and spray. Oooicks!!

Is this what is called a flaming:rolleyes:

Jack E
3rd November 2006, 06:05 PM
I have been told not to put olive oil anywhwere near my BBQ.

Apparently it has a very high salt content which can lead to rust.

If you are cooking steaks on a BBQ you shouldn't need oil anyway.

Get the plate as hot as you can and throw on the steaks.

A steak should only be turned once, and that is when the juices have started to appear on the top of the steak.

By this time the steak would have released from the plate, meaning you don't need oil.

If you are putting oil on a steak to add flavour, try a different butcher:D

I know people will say there are many ways to cook steak but they are wrong:D :D :D

Cheers, Jack

Iain
3rd November 2006, 06:53 PM
Jack, my new barby (BBQ not doll) is the Weber Q, they are a little different, the grill, not plate, is enamelled and need the meat to be oiled before contact, it is also cooked with the hood closed to maintain heat from the circular gas element.
They are very efficient and after having been the proud owner for about three weeks now will vow never to return to the 'conventional' BBQ.
Everything I ever learned about the conventional BBQ has now been discarded in favour of this magnificent little beast, even if I do lose my eyebrows and moustache because I don't read the can:rolleyes:

felixe
3rd November 2006, 07:11 PM
Ian, you should look at using a different oil, as extra virgin olive oil has a low "smoke point" , so ignition would not be far away from that.
Canola oil, smoke point (SP) 221 celcius (c)
Coconut oil, SP 220c
Corn oil, SP 210c
Cottonseed oil, SP 232c
Grapeseed oil, SP 230c
Light/Virgin olive oil, SP 210c
Sesame seed oil, SP 210c
Sunflower seed oil, SP 200c
Extra virgin olive oil, SP 121c
Peanut oil, SP very high (sorry no data) but worth noting it is a primary used for frying which makes it a very good choice for the BBQ.
Because oils such as walnut, hemp seed, pumpkin and olive oil are such aromatic and "fruity" oils with a low smoking point they should be used for warm preparations or salads. Don't use them for frying or oiling the BBQ, they burn easily which ruins the taste and it is a waste of good money (most are expensive). Stick to peanut oil if you have to oil the grill.:D

Hang on is this the woodwork forum or the chefs forum:confused: :rolleyes:

Regards
Felixe

Iain
3rd November 2006, 07:40 PM
Olive is a wood, is peanut????

Johncs
22nd October 2008, 12:00 AM
Mate, have a look around the kitchen shops, it is possible to get a plastic pump up spray bottle for oil.
You fill it to about 3/4 with your favourite oil, screw the lid on & pump the bottom of it like a push bike pump.
It has a regular press button spray nozzle & doesn't have any nasty Ozone depleting, cancer causing chemicals in it. ;)

My oldest daughter uses an ordinary pump bottle: 1/8 your choice of oil. 7/8 water. Shake before use.

My alternative: 5050 EV Olive oil, Balsamic vinegar. Add whatever spices & herbs come to hand. Doubles as spray[1] and salad dressing.

[1] I've not tested this as a spray, the jet might :oo: :2tsup:on salads tho.

Ashore
22nd October 2008, 12:10 AM
My oldest daughter uses an ordinary pump bottle: 1/8 your choice of oil. 7/8 water. Shake before use.

My alternative: 5050 EV Olive oil, Balsamic vinegar. Add whatever spices & herbs come to hand. Doubles as spray[1] and salad dressing.

[1] I've not tested this as a spray, the jet might :oo: :2tsup:on salads tho.
Thats good john, but check the date on the first post I reckon he might have found the fix by now :doh:

rgum
26th October 2008, 06:29 PM
:laughing1: Sorry Iian. I couldn't help myself. My little camping stove has some woooooof factor as well. Only I have to just turn the thing on and half way through making bacon and eggs I have to pat my eyebrows and break off the crusty bits. OMG the smell too! Smokin eyebrows. :laughing1:
Just the hose needs re fitting. Too easy. Done soon. I hope Sorry Iian.

Sorry. I'll go bk to my shed now. I'm being a bit of an aerosol now :laughing1: :hihi:
Sorry. :laughing1:

ratchet
28th October 2008, 03:13 PM
I have used a spray bottle , usually used to spray water on cloths etc , about $2 from supermarkets

put any oil of choose in and away you go

Pusser
28th October 2008, 03:22 PM
Hi Iain,

I'm with Cliff. Those doggies work well. Might be worth using Extra Virgin Olive oil as well, I think it has a higher flash point. Just don't use Crisco or Canola ( read Rape Seed) oil, then yer kilt will aflame! Ochh

Regards

Rob

I think you will find it is the other way round. A chef does not fry in olive oil because it burns at a lower themperature than rape seed oil and that undoes all the benefits, nutrtitional and flavour.