View Full Version : America says no to vegemite ?
JDarvall
23rd October 2006, 12:51 AM
Whats that all about ? ..did I hear that right ? ........ something on the TV that the Americans are banning it ? ..:eek:
I don't think I could live without the stuff personally. I mean, I'd feel all wierd, dressed in my suit, during my next business trip to New York, if I have to eat bloody pancakes with maple sirup every morning!!...,,,cold toast with heaps of butter and vegimite, and a cuppa...or nothing at all thankyou very much !!
Might have to smuggle in a dozern jars with me ,,,,, in my briefcase.
Waldo
23rd October 2006, 12:58 AM
G'day Jake,
Let them ban it, they don't know what they're missing out on.
Maybe they've gone all politically correct because it's black and some sort of mumbo jumbo carp. :confused:
kiwigeo
23rd October 2006, 06:45 AM
Theyre shooting themselves in the foot...Vegemite is made by Kraft, an American owned company. If they ban it then it'll mean less profits going back to yankeeland.
Flowboy
23rd October 2006, 07:57 AM
But you've got to remember its not Nabisco!! and, if you've ever tasted their Marmite, you'll understand that taste means nothing (Bring me more sugar!!)
Rob
bennylaird
23rd October 2006, 08:06 AM
The Seppos are treading on thin ice, banning Vegimite at the same time we have proof the barstools killed Pharlap!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: Poisened him with arsenic.
Definately a bad day for US - Aust relationships :p :p
RufflyRustic
23rd October 2006, 09:55 AM
Whoo Hoo!! Now I have *The* best reason not to go to the USA:D I love my vegemite, I should have been the baby on that vegemite TV ad :D :D
Wongo
23rd October 2006, 10:11 AM
Yuck.
Tex B
23rd October 2006, 10:20 AM
Agree with you Wongo. I think in order to like it, you have to have been spoon fed the stuff as a baby. :p
Still, it's a bit harsh to ban it. I don't know any Americans who actually like it, so it really only affects the expat Aussies.
There are certainly products on the shelves in the US that taste bad (although arguably none taste as bad as vegemite;)) and certainly products on the shelves that are much worse for you than vegemite, so it seems a bit silly to ban the c--p, er, product because it contains (gasp) folate :eek:.
Tex
kiwigeo
23rd October 2006, 11:16 AM
I see Big Macs and other cr*p junk food as more of a threat to the health of Americans than Vegemite. It shows the people in power have no idea of what theyre doing.
kiwigeo
23rd October 2006, 11:18 AM
Out on an oil rig off coast of New Zealand at present. In the galley they have both Vegemite and Marmite. Had a quick check on the levels in the jars and they seem to be going through far more Marmite than Vegemite. Ive noticed quite a few of the Americans on board going for the Marmite rather than the Vegemite.
Eddie Jones
23rd October 2006, 11:24 AM
The Seppos are treading on thin ice, banning Vegimite at the same time we have proof the barstools killed Pharlap!!!!!!!!:mad: :mad: :mad: Poisened him with arsenic.
Definately a bad day for US - Aust relationships :p :p
So that's what they did with Pharlap after he died! Musta been a big horse to last this long! And I thought "dead horse" was tomato sauce!
But really, who cares? Anybody who says that black crepe tastes good oughta have his/her taste buds replaced.
Bob38S
23rd October 2006, 11:25 AM
Sorry, I am also a Vegemite kid :D:D:D
- don't really care what the Yanks do at their place :p:p[bit much that they are searching the Aussies for it though] :eek::eek:
but what concerns me is that they influence others - ie I have travelled to Europe and taken Vegemite in the luggage for personal use :):)- even send it to rellies in Denmark :):):)- If they influence the others that it could be some sort of danger then we could all be in strife.:(:(:(
Bob
:D:):D
silentC
23rd October 2006, 11:36 AM
Must've missed something. What's the danger? Folate is good for you, isn't it?
silentC
23rd October 2006, 11:52 AM
I've just read that it's banned in the US because folic acid is only allowed in breads and cereals. So it's OK in bread and wheeties but not in vegemite.
Greatest nation the world has ever seen :rolleyes:
I'm so glad we've chosen their coat tails to swing off.
masoth
23rd October 2006, 12:01 PM
Folate is Vitamin B9 and does no harm (I think) in moderation. Actually B9 is recommended for pregnant women.
Is, perhaps, the amount of folate present in Vegemite the problem??
I can't remember a time when I was without it in my diet.
silentC
23rd October 2006, 12:07 PM
A few interesting things from Wikipedia:
The National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey (NHANES III 1988-91) and the Continuing Survey of Food Intakes by Individuals (1994-96 CSFII) indicated that most adults did not consume adequate folate. However, the folic acid fortification program in the United States has increased folic acid content of commonly eaten foods such as cereals and grains, and as a result diets of most adults now provide recommended amounts of folate equivalents.
Folic acid is very important for all women who may become pregnant. Adequate folate intake during the periconceptional period, the time just before and just after a woman becomes pregnant, helps protect against a number of congenital malformations including neural tube defects. Neural tube defects result in malformations of the spine (spina bifida), skull, and brain (anencephaly).
The risk of toxicity from folic acid is low. The Institute of Medicine has established a tolerable upper intake level (UL) for folate of 1,000 µg for adult men and women, and a UL of 800 µg for pregnant and lactating (breast-feeding) women less than 18 years of age. Supplemental folic acid should not exceed the UL to prevent folic acid from masking symptoms of vitamin B12 deficiency.
In 1996, the United States Food and Drug Administration (FDA) published regulations requiring the addition of folic acid to enriched breads, cereals, flours, corn meals, pastas, rice, and other grain products.
Vegemite is banned in the USA, because it contains folate, a vitamin that in the USA is only allowed in breads and cereals. The USA government has (as of 2006) stepped up the ban, going so far to even search Australians for Vegemite when they enter the country
The greatest nation the world has ever seen.
Rocker
23rd October 2006, 12:13 PM
When Oz rules the world, as the only nation that hasn't run out of energy resources, we can make the likes of Dubya and Donald Rumsfelt eat one vegemite sandwich daily as punishment for refusing to use the metric system.
Kiwigeo,
The stuff that they call marmite in Oz is vastly inferior to real marmite found in the UK. UK marmite can be found in boutique delis for Brits in the US, but I don't know whether it too contains folate.
Rocker
silentC
23rd October 2006, 12:16 PM
Yes it does.
per 100g:
Folic Acid – 2500 µg – 1250 % RDA
I hope we don't find out that Marmite is not banned in the US. That could be a declaration of war. The wikipedia article on Marmite seems to indicate that it is, but that surely must be a mistake.
lesmeyer
23rd October 2006, 01:56 PM
It just boggles my mind how a country such as the US with all the obesity problems that stem mainly from junk food, have the audacity to ban vegemite for personal consumption by searching Australians at the airport. :eek:
Les
Grunt
23rd October 2006, 02:00 PM
per 100g:
Quote:
<table border="0" cellpadding="6" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr> <td class="alt2" style="border: 1px inset ;"> Folic Acid – 2500 µg – 1250 % RDA </td> </tr> </tbody></table>
Who in their right mind would eat 100gms of Vegemite in a day?
bennylaird
23rd October 2006, 02:04 PM
Don't worry, if they catch you with some they wont charge you.:cool:
You will just sit in Guantanamo Bay for 5 years:D :D :D
Always knew the Barstools killed Pharlap:mad: :mad: :mad:
Colic my ar..........e;)
silentC
23rd October 2006, 02:24 PM
Who in their right mind would eat 100gms of Vegemite in a day?
Yeah and I was talking about Marmite, which is even less understandable....
Wongo
23rd October 2006, 04:02 PM
This is how to make your own vegemite.
Buy a bottle of soy sauce. Remove the top of the bottle. Place the bottle in a dark place under the house for 7 to 10 years.
:D
silentC
23rd October 2006, 04:18 PM
Buy a bottle of soy sauce. Remove the top of the bottle. Place the bottle in a dark place under the house for 7 to 10 years.
I'm sorry Scott. I know you Chinese chaps like to think you invented everything, but vegemite is a 100% Aussie invention, mate. It's made from axle grease and koala poo. Everyone knows that.
dzcook
23rd October 2006, 04:26 PM
just something else but i am sure that at the service for steve irwin the john williamson song had the lyrics changed ( may be wrong but ) and the line about vegimite was removed ?? can any one tell me for sure perhaps the yanks are getting really strict and banning even the mentioning of vegimite ??
Grunt
23rd October 2006, 04:51 PM
I'm sorry Scott. I know you Chinese chaps like to think you invented everything, but vegemite is a 100% Aussie invention, mate. It's made from axle grease and koala poo. Everyone knows that.
I thought it was made from echidna vomit.
bennylaird
23rd October 2006, 05:00 PM
C'mon guys, a national icon and your taking the puss out of it. Have you no loyalty? Don't you fly the Aussie flag proudly and sing the Star Spangleee...opps thought I was a seppo for a minute:D :D :D
Rocker
23rd October 2006, 08:21 PM
Scott,
Here was I thinking that you had really become true blue, and now you ruin it all by saying that you hate vegemite. Surely, if I, as a pom born and bred, can mark my assimilation by switching my allegiance to vegemite from marmite, surely you can give up eating cats, and dogs for that matter, and eat vegemite with a good grace.
Rocker
Iain
23rd October 2006, 08:43 PM
I'm sorry Scott. I know you Chinese chaps like to think you invented everything, but vegemite is a 100% Aussie invention, mate. It's made from axle grease and koala poo. Everyone knows that.
You forgot the battery acid to give it the bite;)
echnidna
23rd October 2006, 08:56 PM
I thought it was made from echidna vomit.
So obviously the yanks regard it as the Chunder From Downunder:cool:
Cliff Rogers
23rd October 2006, 09:04 PM
Mr. Wong.... I would like to point out that straight Black Bean Sauce & Vegemite taste very similar to me. :cool:
Honorary Bloke
23rd October 2006, 10:05 PM
Well, this is the first I'm learning that we have banned vegemite.:mad: :o :o I shall write a letter to my congressman today. Of course, I have tasted vegemite and rank it right up there with the Scot's haggis and the Norwegian's lutefisk, but still, we are supposed to be a free nation. Live and let live.
I say "Let 'em eat vegemite." :D
Doughboy
23rd October 2006, 10:16 PM
Yep they ban vegemite but they have this stuff called grape jelly.........
Let me tell you that Interpol should be informed. This stuff is dangerous, absolutely vile. A bit like eating unripe grapes off the vine!!!
Pete
bennylaird
24th October 2006, 08:17 AM
And what is the Dr Pepper stuff as well?????? Feel ill just thinking of it.
Rocker
24th October 2006, 08:43 AM
Perhaps we should ban the importation of peanut butter on the grounds that it clearly causes obesity.
Rocker
Studley 2436
24th October 2006, 08:44 AM
Maybe the American's noticed that Aussies are just brilliant people, happy cheerful good at sports intelligent resourceful independent minded and not only all that good looking too. So not wanting any of that they blamed it on Vegemite and banned it!
I am sure that it makes sense to a bureaucrat somewhere. Folic acid is in Vegemite well because it is in Vegemite. They add it to their bread and cereal? So what issue with Vegemite? Maybe they just don't want any option to the put it in bread thing? You'd have to be in the Government/bureaudracy and want to protect your little sacred cow I guess.
Vegemite banned (and I don't eat it myself but thats not the point) for containing something they think is so good they add it to their bread! And so few Americans eat Vegemite what is the point?
MMMMMMMM I was trying to write something witty and entertaining but it didn't work out that way
Studley
bennylaird
24th October 2006, 08:47 AM
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MMMMMMMM I was trying to write something witty and entertaining but it didn't work out that way
Studley[/QUOTE]
Hey that's my job:D :D :D
scooter
24th October 2006, 10:52 PM
Hey that's my job:D :D :D
When do you start? :confused:
;)
bennylaird
24th October 2006, 11:00 PM
When do you start? :confused:
;)
Already have the "it doesn't work out" bit downpat:D :D :D
keith53
24th October 2006, 11:28 PM
So that's what they did with Pharlap after he died! Musta been a big horse to last this long! And I thought "dead horse" was tomato sauce!
But really, who cares? Anybody who says that black crepe tastes good oughta have his/her taste buds replaced.
Dunno about that Ed. I don't mind a bit of Vege if there's nothing else going. Tried Marmite but I can't see what all the fuss it about. BUT - Promite!!!! Now, there's a first class toast accompaniment. Yeah!!:D
Andy Mac
24th October 2006, 11:45 PM
BUT - Promite!!!! Now, there's a first class toast accompaniment. Yeah!!:D
I'm with you, I have it daily, but prolly contains folate or whatever too!:rolleyes:
Cheers,
scooter
25th October 2006, 12:18 AM
Already have the "it doesn't work out" bit downpat:D :D :D
:D :D
Wood Butcher
25th October 2006, 07:33 AM
BUT - Promite!!!! Now, there's a first class toast accompaniment. Yeah!!:D
Ahhh.. the conversation is starting to get civilised:D.
Vegemite I can take or leave, but Promite...actually chomping down a piece of toast with slathers of it on at the moment.
Anyway.. It's all a bunch of BS according to the Seppos
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20641599-1702,00.html
bennylaird
25th October 2006, 08:05 AM
Was all a beat up, Press conference today denied it was banned in the US.
Trouble is none of the seppos knew what Vegimite was:D :D :D
Did I mention the barstools killed Pharlap?:p
Flowboy
25th October 2006, 08:23 AM
There's a market here for "Folate Depleted Vegemite"
- Gauranteed not to improve your health.
- Suitable for Ingestion during pregnancy without affecting your ability to litigate against Hospital, Pediatrician and allied health professionals.
- Ideally suited as a dare for students during Initiation procedures at College.
We'll keep the real stuff. Though, since its made by Kraft, this wont be in production very long.
Regards
Rob
Doughboy
25th October 2006, 09:24 AM
Hey I have the answer...
Rip out all the folate, cos we all now know that it is the route of all evil, and replace it with a liberal helping of sugar and top it off with a copious application of fat and there you have it a PERFECT product for introduction into the worlds biggest consumer market!
Pete
silentC
25th October 2006, 09:51 AM
Those naughty newspapers, getting us all worked up over nothing again. :mad:
kiwigeo
26th October 2006, 03:29 PM
Would be interesting to lug a large bag of shellac flakes through US customs and see what they say. Its an FDA approved food product in the US.
Landseka
26th October 2006, 03:45 PM
Did I mention the barstools killed Pharlap?:p
I heard a grandson or such of Pharlap's handler reckons that arsenic was an ingredient in a tonic that was fed to the horse to aid performance.
Maybe we should sue him! :rolleyes:
Regards
Neil.