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la Huerta
19th September 2006, 04:36 PM
does anyone here know how to get a left side powered window up on a AU ute, it just does not want to come back up, wiill have to take it to get fixed but would like to get it back up for now, so i can lock it...
sugestions appriecated...
Harry72
19th September 2006, 04:52 PM
Go visit a FORD dealer they may know of way to get around the problem.
TLPD translation...
Arrr, go 'isit a Ford dealer they may know o' way t' get around the problem Aye.
ernknot
19th September 2006, 04:59 PM
Not much you can do if your circuit is broken due to a bad conncetion. This could be in the lifter unit motor or your power button. Also your lifter motor mechanisn could be stuffed. Get it to an auto electrician. There is no manual way to get the window up that I know of. If you are a member of the RAA or such, call them for road side assistance.
Stuart
19th September 2006, 05:04 PM
I had a broken switch in mine - the actual plastic was broken. Had to take part of the door cover off, and apply epoxy. Kept working for the next 3 years till the car was sold.
Auld Bassoon
19th September 2006, 06:17 PM
On my current (and all past Audis & BMWs) there is an 'emergency' winder mechanism that is accessed via a little clip-off cap. Perhaps Ford has a similar facility?
ozwinner
19th September 2006, 06:34 PM
Arrh Steve you crack me up. http://www.ubeaut.biz/laughing.gif
Ford or Holden with such a devise......http://www.ubeaut.biz/hehehe.gif
Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/toothless.gif
la Huerta
19th September 2006, 06:58 PM
i fixed it , i fixed it !!!
i cleaned the power window button, took them apart completly and cleaned the contact points, lot's of gunk in there, and what do you know, it worked....!
took a while for the shock to wear off that it was fixed and did'nt have to buy a new $600 window motor...
good lesson here, if anyone has power windows and they play up a little, clean out the switches...
many thanks for all the above help...
La H
Rocker
19th September 2006, 08:42 PM
I think a manual method of winding the window should be mandatory. I refused to buy a car with power windows, since, if your car falls into water, you can't escape. The power windows won't work and you can't open the door because of the water pressure.
Rocker
Bob38S
20th September 2006, 11:17 AM
I think a manual method of winding the window should be mandatory. I refused to buy a car with power windows, since, if your car falls into water, you can't escape. The power windows won't work and you can't open the door because of the water pressure.
Rocker
Never thought of the water bit but both of our cars have power windows and have had for many years - because of this each car also has [attached to the tunnel on the driver's side] a small safety hammer - it is easily accessable and has a hardened point on each side of the head which can be used for smashing the windows in an emergency. I first saw them on all of the touring busses in Europe and thought they were a good idea.
Regards,
Bob
:D:):D
Rocker
20th September 2006, 11:49 AM
I still would not fancy the idea of trying to escape a car through a broken window; in the confusion, you would be very likely to be badly cut, unless the windows are made of the sort of glass that shatters into small fragments.
Rocker
Bob Willson
20th September 2006, 12:23 PM
If I was drowning I wouldn't care if I had to crawl naked over fire ants and hornets to get out.
journeyman Mick
20th September 2006, 05:45 PM
I still would not fancy the idea of trying to escape a car through a broken window; in the confusion, you would be very likely to be badly cut, unless the windows are made of the sort of glass that shatters into small fragments.
Rocker
Rocker,
you're referring to tempered or "safety" glass, which AFAIK all vehicle side and rear glass is made of. Windscreens are usually laminated. Tempered glass is incredibly hard to break though, and I wouldn't want to be trying to break a window with one of those little toy hammers while my car was sinking. I think if I had a car with power windows I'd have to strap a 26oz Estwing under the driver's seat.:rolleyes:
Mick
Bleedin Thumb
20th September 2006, 06:25 PM
Rocker,
you're referring to tempered or "safety" glass, which AFAIK all vehicle side and rear glass is made of. Windscreens are usually laminated. Tempered glass is incredibly hard to break though, and I wouldn't want to be trying to break a window with one of those little toy hammers while my car was sinking. I think if I had a car with power windows I'd have to strap a 26oz Estwing under the driver's seat.:rolleyes:
Mick
Mick Ive never used one of those toy hammers but they are supposed to be very effective as the full force of the blow is delivered to a very small point. I think they are the weapon of choice for kids destroying bus shelters.:)
journeyman Mick
20th September 2006, 06:34 PM
Maybe, but I've smashed a few windows down at the local tip and had besser blocks bounce off, pieces of cane train track deflect and even steel brake drums not work on the first attempt. They may concentrate all the force on the point but there's no weight in them and no length to the handle. If there's one thing I've done a lot of it's swinging a hammer, you may trust a little plastic toy with pointy metal bits on the ends to save your life, but I wouldn't.:rolleyes:
Mick
Bleedin Thumb
20th September 2006, 06:44 PM
I think the way to find out for sure is to have a test your 26 oz Estwing vs the plastic toy... just need to find the right bus shelter/ bank window.;)
Edit I guess they are light weight so when you do have an prang the hammer doesnt work its way through your legs then the fire wall and then the engine block.
journeyman Mick
20th September 2006, 06:59 PM
I can smack a hole through a besser block with my Estwing with not much effort, I guarantee you won't do the same with the plastic jobbie. I understand the theory behind the metal points and the light weight for safety (and cheap construction) but my feeble memory of high school physics tells me you need a combination of speed and mass vs impact surface area to make it work. Ie a tap from a sledge hammer = a big swing from an estwing = a toy hammer fired from a cannon. It probably would work eventually, but like I said, I wouldn't be betting my life on it.:rolleyes:
Mick
la Huerta
20th September 2006, 07:37 PM
when i got my old VN commodore broken into, the crook just used an old car battery, worked really well to , completely shattered to bits making a lovely easy and safe way for him/her to enter the car and make a mess...
next car i'll probably go back to basics though, wind up windows, manual G-box...the less technical stuff the less problems...
Tex79
21st September 2006, 09:41 AM
Many years ago when I was in the SES we used to use the spring loaded centre punches to shatter the side windows then juts push the glass out.
I guess it proved that you don't have to apply a great deal of force to a small point to break the window, so the emergency hammer thingos would probably work fine.
Terry B
21st September 2006, 01:48 PM
I think a manual method of winding the window should be mandatory. I refused to buy a car with power windows, since, if your car falls into water, you can't escape. The power windows won't work and you can't open the door because of the water pressure.
Rocker
So where do you find water deep enough? You could park the car in my dam at the moment and still be able to breathe.
Bob38S
21st September 2006, 02:55 PM
I didn't mention in the previous post that I also was very sus as to whether the safety hammer works - I also tried it out - the result was that on side window glass it took very little effort to shatter it completely only 2 hits - the first was probably too tentative - the second [in my usual lightning manner] didn't even hit in the same place but did the job fine - glass everywhere in confetti size - just like the old windscreens. I also tried it out on a laminated screen at the windscreen repair place - no joy there except for a star, hole and many cracks as it only went through the first layer.
So, not for windscreens but excellent for side windows or those made of "safety glass" - handle size or mass does not appear to be an issue.
Regards,
Bob
:D:):D
journeyman Mick
21st September 2006, 04:13 PM
Okay, I sit corrected, but my ute has manual windows and I carry two estrwings (in the toolbox in the back) and an old axe handle behind the seat.;)
Mick
China
21st September 2006, 09:43 PM
As La Heurta said pull out the door rocker switch diasemble it clean the the contacts with DNA ask any taxi owner who has an Au, cleaning these switches is almost a cottage industry
Harry72
22nd September 2006, 02:26 AM
Rocker your power window should work under water... they're usually water proofed, they do live in a car door after all! And DC still works under water.
And to top it off you can open your doors once the car is full of water.
Rocker
22nd September 2006, 06:53 AM
Rocker your power window should work under water... they're usually water proofed, they do live in a car door after all! And DC still works under water.
And to top it off you can open your doors once the car is full of water.
Harry,
You may be right that the power window would still work under water; but I would not like to bet my life on it.
But you could not open the doors until the car was completely full of water, by which time you would have drowned.
Rocker
Tankstand
22nd September 2006, 07:46 AM
I watched a show from the US about people in real life dramas, and they recommended carrying in your car a spring loaded center punch to break the window!? Haven't tried it myself but they demonstrated it and after a couple of clicks the window smashed.
bennylaird
22nd September 2006, 08:45 AM
Anyone with and EBish ford who has problems might find the switch has a crack in the track near the solder joint. I pulled mine apart resoldered it and has been fine ever since. The crack is under the switch so unsolder it first then resolder it.
keith53
22nd September 2006, 10:33 AM
Maybe, but I've smashed a few windows down at the local tip and had besser blocks bounce off, pieces of cane train track deflect and even steel brake drums not work on the first attempt.
Mick
So, you're not flat out all the time then, Mick? :D Put a bit of time aside for some recreational destruction? :D:D
journeyman Mick
22nd September 2006, 10:53 PM
Keith,
:o nothing like a bit of recreational destruction to relieve the stresses of the day.:D
Mick
China
22nd September 2006, 11:17 PM
Rocker if you ever want to purchase a new car your going to find it real difficult to find one without power windows, and I agree they would not work under water most that I have seen don't even have proper dust protection