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rick_rine
5th September 2006, 02:20 PM
if only he had of worn sunblock he would have kept those dangerous rays away :(

Stuart
5th September 2006, 03:20 PM
Was reading a bit more about it in the paper today - the number of times I have been in a similar situation (proximity to a ray while diving) just goes to show. Worst I've had is holes punched in a fin by a Trigger Fish, but I've been in situations where I've had to swim right over the top of a ray swimming the other direction, in a channel too narrow to turn around.

Still think they are the most graceful creature underwater - they fly rather than swim.

Hope there is no senseless backlash against them.

Iain
5th September 2006, 05:40 PM
Sounds like a freak accident, I managed to get sliced once but have never seen one stab.

ozwinner
5th September 2006, 06:32 PM
Hope there is no senseless backlash against them.


Dont worry Stu, the seal hunters are on to the ray "problem"

Al :p

sliver
5th September 2006, 07:25 PM
Hi everyone,
I was shocked to the core to hear about Steve Irwin, as I'm sure all of you will be too. The world has lost a great friend.

Our thoughts & love go out to his family & friends.

Sliver.

dazzler
5th September 2006, 08:00 PM
Hi everyone,
I was shocked to the core to hear about Steve Irwin, as I'm sure all of you will be too. The world has lost a great friend.

Our thoughts & love go out to his family & friends.

Sliver.

I agree

His wildlife park was a great experience and probably the only one where you dont constantly feel the owners hand in your pocket.

Even though a lot of aussies cringed at his okker image he will be missed.

rowie
5th September 2006, 08:04 PM
only the good die young.

reef12
5th September 2006, 08:12 PM
His Show was good.

Took a lot of risks.

Thought a big croc would get him.

Well bye Steve

martrix
5th September 2006, 08:27 PM
the earth has lost a good soul....but hopefully gained a great awareness not just of conservation, but of how passionate the human spirit can be.
I feel for all of his family and close friends and associates.


I heard on radio national that it was all caught on film.
Apparently he was swimming above the Ray when it whipped its tail and drove the barb into the left side of his chest.
Steve then got up and ripped out the barb and then fell backwards........rip.

cranbrook2
5th September 2006, 08:31 PM
My heart goes out to Steve and his family.
He will be greatly missed here in Canada.
the world has lost a great man.
john

Stuart
5th September 2006, 10:03 PM
Dont worry Stu, the seal hunters are on to the ray "problem"
Was thinking about them as I wrote it funnily enough.
Surprised that their boat has been all over the TV, including its name and everything. Even more surprised there hasn't been a backlash.

Gumby
5th September 2006, 10:11 PM
Why would you think that there'd be a backlash :confused:

It's not as if the thing jumped out of the water and broke into his house to get him. It was just doing what it does.

Tex B
5th September 2006, 10:11 PM
Was thinking about them as I wrote it funnily enough.
Surprised that their boat has been all over the TV, including its name and everything. Even more surprised there hasn't been a backlash.

Most of the reports I've read have very carefully pointed out that it was not the fault of the ray. He was just being a ray. The implication is that if it was not the ray's fault ....


Tex

Stuart
5th September 2006, 10:32 PM
Why would you think that there'd be a backlash :confused:

It's not as if the thing jumped out of the water and broke into his house to get him. It was just doing what it does.Just because of the way 'they' treat other similar types of events, such as sharks, and animals that are treated badly and finally lash out.

A defensive accident like this is less likely to have the same response from an uninformed public, luckily.

Wood Butcher
5th September 2006, 10:49 PM
Most of the reports I've read have very carefully pointed out that it was not the fault of the ray. He was just being a ray. The implication is that if it was not the ray's fault ....


Tex

The QLD police have also released a statement saying that Steve Irwin wasn't intimidating the ray either and that it wasn't any fault of his:confused:

Shedhand
6th September 2006, 01:19 AM
Wasn't a fan but no-one deserves to lose a dad and husband that young.

Wild Dingo
6th September 2006, 01:57 AM
Cant say I was much of a fan... often calling him a dipstick dangerous and foolish along with terms such as SteveFlaminIrwin and such :rolleyes:

But... you gotta admit he was enthusiastic and passionate about wildlife, life in general and Australia... he loved creatures and nature and he loved Australia and didnt hessitate to say so every chance he got :cool:

Australia is less one hell of a son an embassador and a person of great potential... gone too soon doing what he loved

Heartfelt sadness to Terri Bindi and Bob to loose her husband to loose their dad at just 44 is the saddest thing :(

Stuart
6th September 2006, 02:23 AM
The QLD police have also released a statement saying that Steve Irwin wasn't intimidating the ray either and that it wasn't any fault of his:confused:
As I said - been in similar situations, and you can easily see how it would happen, without deliberate provocation of the ray, or the ray doing anything other than acting defensive.

He didn't need to do anything other than be a bit close. The ray could have even have been startled by the cameras etc.

I don't think we necessarily have to look to find anyone to blame. Just a sh*tty bit of luck.

Flowboy
6th September 2006, 08:30 AM
Hi all,

I was going to reply yesterday, but the outage prevailed.

When I heard of Steve Irwin's death, a number of things happened to me.

First I felt shock at the death of a young human being. Then grief for his family as no young child should need to face such a loss of personal time to rationalise what has happened.
Like many others, I felt that Steve was Over The Top in his public affairs and my next emotion was guilt at having felt this. I put this down as never speak ill of the dead.
But, Steve Irwin has left several legacies, some obvious, like his love for animals and conservation, which due to his OTT style sometimes appeared as "for public use only".
More importantly, he reminded all Australians of where they came from, that the values of family, generosity, mateship and compassion are intimate parts of our character and heritage.
But even more, to me anyway, he demonstated that passion is what drives us all. Without the passion to do well at what we do, note that this is separate to plowing your way to "success", we may as well lay down and die. He also reminded us that (in the words of Midnight Oil), "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees". And this is something that has been, and should still be an integral part of being Australian.

Regards and in sadness,

Rob

TEEJAY
6th September 2006, 09:01 AM
All of the above.

Having a young family I feel so much for them.

I thought Steve a twit when I saw him and have to admit an affection for his enthusiasm and genuine nature even if he was a clown that dramatised and exagerated the situations - he was loved by much of his audience and good on him for being fair dinkum.

If there is to be any backlash I suspect it will be more directed towards Germain Greer for her insensitive comments about Steve.

silentC
6th September 2006, 09:36 AM
I saw him interviewed once or twice on TV and thought "he can't possibly be like that in private, can he?" He was either a genuine nut case or a very clever marketer (a bit like Paris Hilton in that respect). Certainly always had people's attention one way or another. I think if you had to spend more than an hour with him, either his enthusiasm would have worn off on you, or you would have wanted to wring his neck.

Very sad for his family. They probably thought he was as indestructible as he did, as did the rest of us. I'm just dreading the over exposure he is going to get now on every TV channel and in every newspaper for the next fortnight.

ozwinner
6th September 2006, 09:46 AM
He used to drive me nuts with his over the top enthusiasm and the way he would harass wildlife for no other reason than to make a quid.

Al :)

craigb
6th September 2006, 09:52 AM
I'm just dreading the over exposure he is going to get now on every TV channel and in every newspaper for the next fortnight.

Mate, it's allready well under way. :rolleyes:

Can''t say that I was any great fan of his, I thought he was a bit of a plonker.

Still, it is very sad for his family.

scooter
6th September 2006, 10:16 AM
...He also reminded us that (in the words of Midnight Oil), "Its better to die on your feet than live on your knees"...

Good quote :)


Cheers..............Sean

Bluegum
6th September 2006, 01:12 PM
I must admit when I first saw him in action I thought what a knucklehead. His first doco I saw was about the top 10 deadliest snakes in the world. As I watched it it became more obvious that no he wasn't stupid and that he knew what he was doing. I became more and more interested in things. Then 3 years ago I went to the the zoo and found it to be an awsome experience and have been back twice more since then. My wife and I were lucky to see him and Terri perform on new years eve last year.


Both my my wife and I found it hard to believe when his death was announced on the news. I like many think his life was cut short as he had so much to offer. As they say though when your numbers up then there isn't much that you can do about it all. I just hope that Terri and the family are'nt chased by the media after his funeral leaving them to grieve in peace and hopefully to move on.

Jack E
6th September 2006, 06:49 PM
He used to drive me nuts with his over the top enthusiasm and the way he would harass wildlife for no other reason than to make a quid.

Al :)
I would like to know the figures of how much of his money he pumped back in to conservation.
I think we would all be surprised.

I didn't find his enthusiasm over the top, in fact I am envious that I have never found anything I am that passionate about and made a good living from it.

Those who didn't like him surely suffered from tall poppy syndrome.

Cheers, Jack

Gumby
6th September 2006, 07:05 PM
He used to drive me nuts with his over the top enthusiasm and the way he would harass wildlife for no other reason than to make a quid.

Al :)

As much as i thought he was over the top, I think he was passionate about conservation and protecting the animals. If he had to do that stuff to get the message across then i have no problem with it at all.

silentC
6th September 2006, 07:21 PM
Those who didn't like him surely suffered from tall poppy syndrome.
I have to disagree with that Jack. I think that there probably are people who don't like certain individuals just because they are famous or top of their field or whatever. However, you can't just dismiss every dissenter on that basis.

For example, I don't particularly like Kylie Minogue. This is not because she is a world famous performer, probably worth millions and loved by millions. It is because I hate her singing voice and don't find her attractive. Some people might say that is just tall poppy syndrome. However, I am a big fan of many other equally famous artists - aren't they tall poppies too?

Frankly, I found Steve Irwin's public persona irritating, not because he was a famous whatever he was, but because I find all people like that irritating. I don't know what he was like in private but all the 'Crikey' stuff was, in my opinion, over the top, often amusing, but ultimately irritating.

It wasn't all that long ago that people were crying for his blood after that dangling the baby over the crocodile incident. What ever he was, it's a sad thing for his family and a tragic end for him.

Ashore
6th September 2006, 07:25 PM
I would like to know the figures of how much of his money he pumped back in to conservation.
I think we would all be surprised.

I'll bet it was more than Greenplease ,
I like a lot of others thought he was too far over the top and simply sold the ossie ocker image to sell his product, and because I didn't watch his programs etc had no idea that he put so much back into what he was so pasionate about.
I now believe that we have lost a good bloke who realy cared about this country, put his money where his mouth was and tried to improve what he could, let alone the loss to such a young family
May you R.I.P.

Gumby
6th September 2006, 07:32 PM
For example, I don't particularly like Kylie Minogue.

years of online friendship killed by one line in a post. :mad:





;)

silentC
6th September 2006, 07:35 PM
I knew I'd get a bite from you ;)

OK, she's not bad looking. Just a bit skinny for me.

But she can't sing!!

:p

ozwinner
6th September 2006, 07:41 PM
years of online friendship killed by one line in a post. :mad:





;)

I thought it was only the gays who like her?
And NO..... I dont like here either

Al :)

ozwinner
6th September 2006, 07:50 PM
Those who didn't like him surely suffered from tall poppy syndrome.

Cheers, Jack


This is just an easy out for people with no opinion of their own.

I dont like Coles Myer.
I dont like Bill Gates.
I dont like Georeg W Bush.
I dont Like Bin Larden
I dont like the IRA
I dont like The Queen
I dont like (insert name here)

I dont like lots of ppl who are rich and famous

Just because I have an opinion doesnt mean I have "tall poppy syndrome".

Al :)

Doughboy
6th September 2006, 07:56 PM
I dont suffer from tall poppy syndrome....:rolleyes:

I mow 'em down as often as I can that way they don't get a big head... just my way I s'pose.:D

Pete

masoth
6th September 2006, 08:06 PM
I agree with all the above statements, but, I'd like to point out the an Australian soldier or ex-soldier died today.
How many TV and radio hours, and inches of newspaper will cover that event?:(

Gumby
6th September 2006, 08:50 PM
I knew I'd get a bite from you ;)

Please, don't mention kylie and bite in the same post. I'll have to take a blood pressure pill. :D

Metal Head
6th September 2006, 10:30 PM
Most of the reports I've read have very carefully pointed out that it was not the fault of the ray. He was just being a ray. The implication is that if it was not the ray's fault ....
Tex

That's correct Tex - it has just been confirmed by the BBC in London.

damienhazo
7th September 2006, 02:57 AM
Love him or hate him, Steve Irwin was an international household name. He was an expert reptile handler and boasted a wealth of general wildlife experience. He never made the headlines for cheating on his wife, crashing a Ferrari while drunk or embezzling donations. From all accounts, he was as enthusastic in private as he was when in the public eye. That alone makes him true-blue in my book.

Conservation has lost one of its most effective champions and Australia has lost a fairdinkum ambassador.

That big heart of his was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time - and I for one, reckon it's a bloody shame.


If there is a heaven, I hope he's up there now, havin' a beer with a croc.

Damien

Honorary Bloke
7th September 2006, 06:53 AM
Steve Irwin's untimely death has been covered extensively here in the US, as he was a popular figure, especially with children. He taught them that certain animals, although deserving respect as dangerous, should not on that account be killed or hurt. They were just doing what came naturally to survive. I personally found his on-screen persona a bit much, but his lessons were right on target, and if he'd been dry as dust no one would have watched.:(

I understand the QLD police have the tape. I hope they burn it, but probably no such luck.:mad:

Christopha
7th September 2006, 09:49 AM
I understand the QLD police have the tape. I hope they burn it, but probably no such luck.:mad:

I'll bet the tv creeps are climbing all over everything and everyone trying to buy THAT one!:mad: :mad: :mad:

Wood Butcher
7th September 2006, 10:27 AM
Apparently Steve Irwin's manager has the tape back and he vowed on US TV that the tape will never see the light of day again. I personally think that if that is his thoughts he should destroy it!

Daddles
7th September 2006, 10:50 AM
Love him or hate him, Steve Irwin was an international household name. He was an expert reptile handler and boasted a wealth of general wildlife experience. He never made the headlines for cheating on his wife, crashing a Ferrari while drunk or embezzling donations. From all accounts, he was as enthusastic in private as he was when in the public eye. That alone makes him true-blue in my book.

Conservation has lost one of its most effective champions and Australia has lost a fairdinkum ambassador.

That big heart of his was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time - and I for one, reckon it's a bloody shame.


If there is a heaven, I hope he's up there now, havin' a beer with a croc.

Damien

I've got to agree with Damien. Although Irwin made me cringe, he was more than just the larrikan presenter. He did a lot of good with his shows and his zoo, and a lot of good behind the scenes and I think the world is worse off without him ... as long as I don't have to watch his silly mug on tele ;)

Richard

Rossluck
7th September 2006, 04:07 PM
My hat is off. I liked Steve. He was a genuine, open person. We need more like him.

Jack E
7th September 2006, 07:29 PM
Yeah, fair enough on my "tall poppy" statement, it was probably a bit general.

I agree with Al and Silent, in fact Al I don't like most of the people/organistaions you mentioned either.

But how anybody cannot find Kylie attractive is beyond me, good call on the voice though Silent:)

I guess that if I thought for a minute that any of Steve Irwins antics were fake then I probably wouldn't have liked him either.

I think that to fake that enthusiasm would be impossible.
Magda (the jetstar chick) said the other night that when he was up, on a scale of 1 to 10 he was a 13, when he felt a little down he was a 10:)

The world has lost a true wildlife warrior and from what I saw, a top bloke.

BTW, I am not a greenie or a conservationist but I thoroughly appreciate the work Steve, his family and employees did for our wildlife and I hope it continues.

I have heard that he has bought land all over Australia, with the intention of never touching it, just letting it be nature. What a wonderful idea.

Cheers, Jack

reef12
7th September 2006, 10:10 PM
Steve opened up Australia to the rest of the world.

Not just the place down under no more.

Be it good or bad a great person who did what he did best.

A lot wish they had his courage

Wood Butcher
7th September 2006, 10:54 PM
I have heard that he has bought land all over Australia, with the intention of never touching it, just letting it be nature. What a wonderful idea.

Cheers, Jack

Jack, I heard it was somewhere in the vicinity of 4200 Hectares. That's a lot of land!

Sir Stinkalot
7th September 2006, 11:09 PM
I cant say that I was a huge fan but after seeing the interview replayed on Denton it is a shame to have lost him. Even though he was such a public figure I don't think many knew of his commitment to buying land for conservation, perhaps we were only ever shown the surface of the man.

I feel for his family, he obviously would have done anything for them and it can never be a good for the kids to loose their father so young. It doesn't matter what you thought of him, the loss to his family is huge and that is a shame.

The worst thing I have seen about the situation is Naomi Robson on Tuesday night out the front of Australia Zoo dressed in her fashion khaki top ..... it was an insult not a tribute.

martrix
15th October 2006, 09:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBi2i_ZKEZ8

martrix
7th April 2007, 10:37 PM
have a laugh with Steve (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pa_7P5AbUww).:)

fred.n
8th April 2007, 12:10 PM
Pineapple, Pineapple, :D :roflmao: :roflmao:

ss_11000
8th April 2007, 12:44 PM
lol thanx mate..great video:2tsup: