..well I stripped it! ...Whither Now?

[fanlee]

Hi.

In a previous post I posted pictures of a problem I had using tinted (hard)shellac.

As predicted I couldn't get a blend or repair to look good, so I stripped it all using metho & steel wool (ooo grade).

Now I have two questions:

1. Given that the timber had been shellaced for weeks if not months, is there a reasonable chance that a water soluble dye would now take on the timber? Is there something I can do to make this possible now?

2. If I used Feast Watson Proof tint dissolved in alcohol direct on the timber, would a couple of coats of shellac (or hard shellac) prevent subsequent bleeding of the colour if I then finished the whole thing with nitro cellulose lacquer?

With the Feast Watson proof tint I had the colour I wanted just right.

I would be happy to go with the water soluble dyes shellac & nitro if the previous shellacing would allow it.

TIA

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[la Huerta]

if your using waterstains then you should be able to go straight to the nitro...i think

i'v been using black japan for staining to get a rich walnut colour,sealed well with shellac then topcoated, but it's a mongrol to apply and so i just started using vandyke crystals, as it's a water dye i just topcoat straight over and skip the shellac...shellac would norrmally be used as a barrier to stop a topcoat bleading or desolving the stain , but with water stain it's not a problem...

[old_picker]

2. If I used Feast Watson Proof tint dissolved in alcohol direct on the timber, would a couple of coats of shellac (or hard shellac) prevent subsequent bleeding of the colour if I then finished the whole thing with nitro cellulose lacquer?


Mixing that dye with metho will make it ecaporate really quick enhancing your chances of uneven coating as it will dry pretty much as soon as it hits the wood. It is water soluble and would be easier to apply mixed with water as it will stay wet longer enabling you to push it around for longer. You could look at the ubeaut waterbase stains which I havent used but reputed to be excellent.

[old_picker]

I have heard lighter fluid [naptha] is good for cleaning down a body before finishing. Whatever caused that blem you gotta make sure is gone. It is not recomended to put steel wool in contact with raw wood as particles of steel caught in the grain may cause oxidised rust spots in the fiinish. I have had it put ugly grey marks on light wood that is pretty hard to get rid of.

[fanlee]

Yeah...I figured since I was using metho it might be OK but you're right...if I use water based anyhting now it might be a problem...well I'll sand & sand some more...LOL.

[la Huerta]

that's the shot, lots of sanding, you have to get that timber back enough for it to absorb again, or your stain will just sit on the surface...