Need a new back fence

[Brengun]

I need a new back fence. The dogwire stapled to barbed wire if not 100% effective in keeping my dogs in. If they charge at the wire and can get a head thru somewhere, the rest of the body follows.:eek:

I read the colorbond fence thread and I think that might be the go. The distance for the required fence is approx 50 metres, and height would need to be 1800mm. The dogs are not really diggers, and the cement capping I currently have buried under the existing fence would be ok to be reused under the new fence.

I have someone from Elite fencing in Ipswich coming next Tuesday to give a quote. Should I ask for two quotes? One quote for the fencing installed, and one for the fence just delivered and I erect it myself? The land is level, so no stepping or anything tricky.

Is a colorbond fence something which I could erect myself or is it best left to the experts? The fence panels would cost somewhere in the vicinity of $2,500 alone. I am not sure if my budget could stretch to cover labor.

I can operate a drill, and I can read directions on a bag of cement. How hard could it be? The hard part will be digging out the timber strainer posts which are 4ft buried in the ground. No, I do not have a tractor to pull them out but maybe I could tempt my neighbour to visit. He has a tractor. :)

[journeyman Mick]

Brengun,
I have a mate who deals in all sorts of dog containment/control/tracking systems. It may well be cheaper to set up an electronic barrier and fit them with collars. If you're interested I can PM you his contact details. He's on the Gold Coast but sells all over Australia.

Mick

[Don Nethercott]

Brengun,
Putting up one of those fences is fairly simple. Don't cement until everything is up. Assemble the panels, dig the holes, put the posts in and screw the panels in. Use braces, chocks, etc to hold the fence in place. When everything is up and nice & straight, pour in the cement.

Get more that one quote for supply of materials, sounds a bit expensive to me at $2500.

If that is too expensive, you could try chain wire fencing. The dogs won't get through that. You may be able to reuse the wooden posts if in good order, or use metal pipe posts. You could run treated pine sleepers along the bottom, maybe partly sunk into the ground, and staple the chain wire to it to make it dog proof.

Don

[Tool-Horder]

Brengun,
Putting up one of those fences is fairly simple. Don't cement until everything is up. Assemble the panels, dig the holes, put the posts in and screw the panels in. Use braces, chocks, etc to hold the fence in place. When everything is up and nice & straight, pour in the cement.



Sounds good untill the wind comes up. Any idea of the 'sail' area created? Biggest kite I have ever seen.:D The normal method used is to assemble all posts and rails , align and brace,concrete in and only then unscrew top rail and insert sheeting.

[Don Nethercott]

I have actually put up a colourbond fence that way. Works with the colourbond as the posts are 2 piece, half for each panel. When panels are in place, just screw them together. Much easier to fully assemble and screw together while on the ground than when standing. You could even assemble all the panels in a shed on a windy/ rainy day and erect when the weather is better.

Re wind - pick a still day. Once they are in the ground and braced, the wind won't affect them a great deal.

Still reckon if cost is an issue go for chain wire fencing. Could use metal posts or treated pine.

Don

[Simomatra]

G'day Brengun

I live at Camira and Elite wa the contractor that was used by my neighbour to fully fence his property

To give you an idea of cost the fence I share with him cost approx $1600 dollars suppied and fitted. It was all raked

He used the existing concrete under and cut his posts in where necessary and refilled

I was away at the time of replacing the fence otherwise I could have done the work myself

Elite have done a good job and gave the quotes for each boundry so that the neighbour could see each neighbour. Very happy with the workmanship

Panels are approx 2.4 meteres each and 1.8m high

We had to remove the existing timber fence

The fences that Mick is talking about also work and maybe what you want at Lowood

Hope this helps you.

[Brengun]

Not really interested in the containment systems, as I have 6 show dogs and don't want collar marks rubbing in on their necks with the containment collars.

The paddock behind me is to be subdivided and housing built and beside me this has already started. The dogs bark at any movement outside they can see so see through mesh fencing would not be great. I don't need my neighbours seeing and hearing that I have so many dogs. I like to keep them quiet.

If I can cope with the cost, I think getting Elite to install might be the go. As someone said, the fence makes a great wind sail and will need to withstand a good storm wind.

I read on their website that the fences are certified to withstand wind gusts of up to 216km and are covered by an exclusive 10-year warranty when it is installed and maintained in accordance with specifications.

Maybe I'll leave construction to the experts.

[JDub]

Digging post holes is a royal PITA, not to mention bloody hard work if you dont have the right equipment. I had a about 50m of colorbond fencing put in (thats alot of holes), and no way was I digging that many holes myself. (I did remove the old fence myself though)

IMO If you can afford it, pay someone to put it up (split the cost with the neighbours;))

BTW very happy with the finished product.:)

[Brengun]

The paddock behind me is owned by the shire council. What are my chances, they will spring for half the cost when there is already a post & barbed wire fence there....Buckleys and none? :)

[Sturdee]

The paddock behind me is owned by the shire council. What are my chances, they will spring for half the cost when there is already a post & barbed wire fence there....Buckleys and none? :)


Depends on the circumstances.

If post & barbed wire fence is the norm where you live and it is in good condition you have indeed buvkleys chance.

But if the norm is paling fences you may have a chance to recover the half share up to the standard cost of the normal type of fencing. Just because they are a shire council they are not exempt from the provisions of the fencing act.


Peter.

[Brengun]

The quote guy for Elite fencing couldn't make it on Tuesday. Now I have to wait until Friday.

[Bluey]

The best way to put up a Colorbond fence. Set up your sting line Dig the 1st hole and set the 1st post inground then use the rail as a guide for the next hole set the 2nd post inground and build the 1st panel.You dont need screw it together yet the pannels will just clip together then just work your way along the fence line putting in each panel as you go. work form the front of the block backwards so if you have a small pannel it will be the last one on the fence. Once you have all your posts set in the ground and panels in place just level the 1st panel and screw it in place and continue along the fence.

[Brengun]

I got the quote from Elite fencing for $5,290 and will be contracting them to install.

The distance is 43 metres along the back and 16 metres along the side to meet up with an existing timber paling fence. Because the soil is sandy loan all the way down, the holes will be 800mm deep for the posts to be cemented. Gate posts 65 x 65 mm will be put in at the corner and both ends of the fence for extra stability with high winds.

The style of fence will be Lysaght Smartascreen Colorbond to look similar to my weatherboards on the house. Colour will be a Bluestone border with Domain (like Beige) infills. The Domain will match our two big watertanks and the Bluestone will be the colour I paint the surfeits of the house (if I ever get around to painting it). Panel height will be 1.8 metres plus about 10 cms clearance along the bottom, so I can install snake proof cement capping.

Elite will take out the existing timber posts and I will dispose of them. Does anyone near Lowood want some free hardwood timber posts including two whopping big strainers? :)

[Simomatra]

Hi Brengun

I can vouch that you will be happy with Elites work our femce is 24 metreslong and no problems with tha wind. The full fence of the neighbours is approx 170 metres in total :)

[TonyD]

Does anyone near Lowood want some free hardwood timber posts including two whopping big strainers?

Do you still have the fence posts mate? I live in Glamorgan Vale so 5mins down the road.:)

I'm currently pricing up a fence for our dogs. Our property is 33acres, but dog fence will just be backyard. I too have dogwire and it doesnt even slow down my red cattle dog.:( My other half is in favour of a picket fence - think the colourbond would look wierd given its not an external fence. Not sure if I should use CCA pine or steel posts and railings given the amount of termites we have in the area. Any suggestions anyone?

I have a gazetted road along one of my boundaries. The fence is a VERY old barbed wire job that is falling down. Anyone had any luck getting some money out of council/govt for a fence bordering a gazetted road?

Cheers,
Tony

[Sturdee]

I have a gazetted road along one of my boundaries. The fence is a VERY old barbed wire job that is falling down. Anyone had any luck getting some money out of council/govt for a fence bordering a gazetted road?

Cheers,
Tony

Tony,

Don't know about Queensland but in Vic only adjoining land owners are required to contribute towards the fence. Governments and councils are not considered land owners for road reserves. That means you pay the lot.


Peter.

[Brengun]

Ha! TonyD I will keep the posts especially for you. I have rolls of dog mesh in the shed too you can have too. My fence goes in on the 11th of Sept as long as its not raining buckets. :D

[TonyD]

Cheers mate. Have PM'd you my details.

Tony