Watery Pap on my Radio

[silentC]

It's time for another whinge about the kids of today and their music. I listen to Triple J. They are the self proclaimed champion of youth music in this country, so it follows that they play the music that young people want to hear. How they determine this is beyond me.

There seems to be a bit of a trend towards watery, wishy-washy music at the moment, including the likes of Augie March and The Sleepy Jackson. These are both Australian bands by the way. Boring as bat shyte. They nearly put me to sleep every time they spin one of their tracks.

I remember a time when the J's played up tempo stuff all the time. What's going on with the kids of today? Why are they becoming so boring?

[Felder]

You forgot to mention Pete Murray (SNORE!!), but thankfully Triple J aren't playing him much anymore.

Really though, the 'kids' of today are listening to Britney Aguilera and the Amazing Boy Band - basically anyone the record companies can market and look good enough to make a sexy film clip.

At least Triple J play music based on the music itself.

As to their choice....:confused: I think Richard Kingsmill is the head dude there now, and is probably in charge of deciding what gets a run and what doesn't. He must be pushing fifty now, which is more than twice the age of their target audience. Perhaps this could be a cause?

[silentC]

I suppose when I say 'kids' I'm talking about the weird little gothic kids with all the angst and bleak outlooks. All the happy, colourful ones are tuning in to the commercial stations. Unfortunately, that means all you get to hear are American 'R&B' tunes (it ain't rythmn and blues) and the Britney rubbish.

I suppose I should be happy that there is an alternative to that rubbish, I just wish they wouldn't push some of it so hard. Last year it was Franz Ferdinand and Wolf Mother - that was OK. This year it just seems to be all this sleepy stuff. There's one on now zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

And as for that little cockney chick Lily Allen... It was endearing for about 20 seconds.

[Felder]

And as for that little cockney chick Lily Allen... It was endearing for about 20 seconds.

....and has now been picked up by commercial radio stations, and even a TV ad that I overheard last night!:eek: There goes any cred she may have had...:rolleyes:

I honestly thought (and this isn't an attack) that you would've been more likely to complain about the likes of The Herd and Hilltop Hoods than Augie March and The Sleepy Jackson....

You can add Something For Kate to my list of un-interesting bands, too.

[Andy Mac]

I still listen to Triple J, although I have found myself wearying of it a bit lately. The Hilltop Hoods and the Herd are OK, ditto Wolfmother and the Black Keys.
What amazed me a while back was a recent visit by one of my nieces, about 19yrs old, been to uni, lives in the big smoke. As usual we played Triple J at home and in the car, thinking we is up with the times...and she just didn't seem to recognize anything!?:confused: Anyway, during one of those moments when the J's were annoying me I flicked to another station...something like SeaFM or another peurile mainstream top40 pap. And what do you know, this niece of mine knew every track...seems like teenypop mainstream is where they're at!

Must be an old fart afterall...:p

[Stuart]

I have a real simple solution that I subscribe to, to get through dull radio years. An iPod. Works well in my shed too, and no ads. With over 120 days of 24 hour music without a repeat, radio just doesn't compare.

[bitingmidge]

Silent,

Welcome, you have just passed the point of no return, you no longer "get it" you are now an adult.

Don't resist, there's a whole new world waiting to be enjoyed, it's called "Radio National".

Keep listening to the J's by all means, but just enough to keep up with what your kids are doing. As an old bloke, it is your duty to ensure that your kids don't listen to all this dribble, and the only way you can do that is to pretend to like it.

Oh, and with earbuds, when you get used to it, you can bob your head as though in time to a magical piece of Britney whilst actually listening to a Podcast of Robyn Williams' Science show.

As long as you wear the tshirt, they'll never know.

Cheers,

P
:D :D :D

[craigb]

I think that the last time I listened to JJJ was 1993. :rolleyes:

I haven't missed it.

[bennylaird]

Just get some Deep Purple CD's and play them loud everywhere you drive, works for me.

[Felder]

I have a real simple solution that I subscribe to, to get through dull radio years. An iPod. Works well in my shed too, and no ads. With over 120 days of 24 hour music without a repeat, radio just doesn't compare.

But will your iPod give you news updates? And how will you ever know about new music?

Bummer about your neice, Andy. I was speaking to the daughter of a friend of mine - she was 17 at the time. I asked her what music she was into and she said "The White Stripes" :) and then in the next breath "Good Charlotte":(.

Perhaps I'm a music snob, but I like most styles of music, as long as it is well written, both lyrically and musically. But I hate it when bands are clearly a product of a recording company, with no real talent whatsoever. I reckon this would equate to around 95% of the current tripe doing the rounds of the Top 40 and the commercial radio stations.:(:(

And they call themselves "artists"!:mad:

[bennylaird]

But will your iPod give you news updates? And how will you ever know about new music?



Better off not knowing about new music :D :D

[silentC]

I actually used to listen to Radio National a lot. Haven't tuned in for over a year now.

I think it's important to listen to as many different types of music as you can. There isn't that much which I really hate. I even don't mind some of the hip hop stuff. It just seems a bit of a trend lately to go for this boring, thoughtful stuff. It's like when The Whitlams were around - everyone raved about them and if you didn't like them, you didn't 'get it'. I reckon they were as dull as dishwater.

Last year I picked up on a few new bands and ended up buying the CDs. This year, well I've bought The Artic Monkeys but that's it. The other CDs I've bought have been by bands I already new about, like Gomez and The Living End. I'm just not interested enough in the stuff they're playing.

I have thought about getting a Coheed and Cambria album. Has anyone listened to any of their stuff?

You're probably right Midge, I am getting past it, whatever it is. The kids aren't old enough to ridicule my music tastes yet, they actually love what we listen to, so I have a bit of time to become a grumpy old fart yet - but I am working on it :)

[silkwood]

What really bugs me about Triple J now is it used to be a genuine alternative. Now I hear the same song numerous times throughout the day and the ads they have for their own station are nearly as numerous as commercial stations! I guess it just gets us used to how ABC 2 is going to be soon.:eek:

Cheers,

Mark

[Felder]

Better off not knowing about new music :D :D

Benny - sometimes you remind me of Benny Hill... http://www.ubeaut.biz/boobies.gif, other times you remind me of Grampa Simpson... http://www.ubeaut.biz/oldman.gif

:D:D

[bennylaird]

Got the nickname from Benny Hill:D

And any music since the 70's just lacks any real grunt.

A luddite and proud!:D

[bennylaird]

"the term Luddite has been used to describe anyone opposed to technological progress and technological change"

For those who didn't know

[Lignum]

The Sleepy Jackson. These are both Australian bands by the way. Boring as bat shyte. They nearly put me to sleep every time they spin one of their tracks.



The Sleepy Jackson latest album is crap, but their self titled album from a few years ago was sensational. And thank God here in Melb we have RRR and PBS both play excelent music.

Anyone in Melb want to hear THE BEST 3 hours of adult music listen (loud) to RRR and the Skull Cave Friday arvo from 3 to 7 The Phantom rocks:D :D

[Lignum]

JJJ was at its peak in the mid to late 80`s. Who remembers George:D And those brilliant compilations he bought out called "Cooking with George"

[Zed]

Frank Zappa. 70 odd albums, all different. like a good book you pick up someitng new each time you listen / read....

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

I've given up listening to the radio... the last time I flicked thru the airwaves 'til I found a station that had real music, the first station break came up to announce we were "listening to the Golden Oldies." :eek: George Thoroughgood ain't that old hat, surely?

I've nothing against modern music, I hear it all the time. Not that I have any choice. :rolleyes: But if I am choosing the tune, it'll be something that I will actually listen to instead of just ignoring.

If it should happen to be a grampa station, so be it. [sigh]

[echnidna]

Geez you lot are talking like old men who are past it.

Typical of all older generations, dislike their kids tastes:D

[Slavo]

The problem with kids music today is the pokies (stay with me on this one). Since pubs started putting in pokies, the number of nights a band would be on at the local have proportionally dropped off.

Long gone are they days of seeing the Oils, Celebate rifles, radio birdman, sunnyboys, guru's, or even an unknown band at any pub any night of the week. Now it's just the sound of people putting their coin in the one arm bandits or some poxy try-hard with a bad hair cut flicking the lights on and off in time with the doof doof music.

The less people are exposed to a 110dB lead guitar solo, the more chance they will be Pimms quaffing, purse carrying sooky-la-la's

[silentC]

And as for the freakin' Scissor Sisters :eek: :eek:

[Lignum]

Celebate rifles, radio birdman,

Move to Vic:D they have been doing some gigs here. Radio Birdman are doing a pub gig tonight

[silentC]

Unfortunately, I missed the golden era of pub rock in Sydney. In the years before I moved there, I used to read about all these bands in RAM, but a couple of years before I finally arrived, the new fire regulations went through all the venues and closed two thirds of them down. By the time I got there, a lot of the places I had read about were no longer open or no longer putting on bands.

One of the places that still was doing it was the old Mosman Hotel (RIP). I stayed there for a week when I first arrived and there were bands on every night. Some of them were absolute crap.

I played in a few bands over the years at places like The Kardomah Cafe (later the Tom Tom Club), Old Windsor Hotel, The Marble Bar. The Tom Tom club was our regular gig for a while, usually mid week. I used to go to places like the Annandale Hotel, The Lewisham, The Sandringham, that place down at Coogee (mental blank). Do any of those places still have bands on?

Live music has been waxing and waning in Sydney for years. It's not dead yet but it was coughing up blood last night...

[Lignum]

that place down at Coogee (mental blank).

Salenas (think thats how its spelt) many a time ive crawled out of their

[silentC]

Yep that's it. Selenas. I have played there too. Great big old barn of a place. The last band I saw there was The Wonder Stuff. Wonder what ever happened to them. One album wonders! ;)

[Zed]

i remember sneaking into the war and peace at parramatta and seeing Dee Minor and the Discords and Jimmy and the boys.... that was tops.

Joylene Hairmouth - what a name for a keyboard player... right up there with Freddy KaboodleShnitzer...definately not like anybody else...

Does anybody have a copy of Dee Minor's album ??? I'd love one please... PM me....

[Felder]

The last band I saw there was The Wonder Stuff.

As in "Vic Reeves and The Wonder Stuff"??:eek:


Does anybody have a copy of Dee Minor's album ???

Sorry mate - only Morris Minor and the Majors.

[Lignum]

Jimmy and the boys.... that was tops.



Joylene (she) from Jimmy and the Boys when (he) was playing for Monica and the Moochers asked me to a party one night (just rememberd) it was at the Hip Hop Club:eek: Often wonder what would have hapend i i had of went:rolleyes:

[silentC]

They did a cover of Dizzy with Vic Reeves but he wasn't in the band. Size of a Cow was probably their only other hit over here. Very popular in the UK apparently. Still going. According to Wikipedia...

[Harry72]

SilentC yer worries are over... JET are releasing a newy album soon, did you hear the new song today?

Hey Benny
"Just get some Deep Purple CD's and play them loud everywhere you drive, works for me."
" And any music since the 70's just lacks any real grunt."

You'd had better listen to some Wolfmother...

[Daddles]

Oh gawd, you old farts talking about the music you listen to. It's not a problem for me ... I always have an audio book playing in the car :D

Richard

[silentC]

JET are releasing a newy album soon, did you hear the new song today?
Missed it. I heard them talking about Jet at one point but I thiought they were saying "what happened to them". I'm sure they'll play it again ;)

[Rossluck]

Today I met a person as boring as myself. We discovered that we both listen exclusively to ABC radio. Does this mean that we are deceased?

[Harry72]

SC seems like we got some new Audio Slave on the way too... cool!

[Daddles]

Today I met a person as boring as myself. We discovered that we both listen exclusively to ABC radio. Does this mean that we are deceased?

Yup. There's a meeting tonight at the cemetary. Third mausoleum from the south gate, the one with the gargoyles - I'm sure you know the one I mean.

Richard
resident ghoul

[silentC]

SC seems like we got some new Audio Slave on the way too
Yep heard a new one last week. Things are looking up...

[Rossluck]

Yup. There's a meeting tonight at the cemetary. Third mausoleum from the south gate, the one with the gargoyles - I'm sure you know the one I mean.

Richard
resident ghoul

Yes I know it. I thought it was a dream. OK. I'll lie down now.

[Felder]

I saw Eskimo Joe play last night. Are they considered 'watery pap'??:confused:

Great gig.:)

[silentC]

They have a couple of good songs but the rest of the latest album is a bit sooky for my liking. Not watery pap though.

[Felder]

So sooky, but not watery pap.:confused:

You writing your own dictionary there, Silent? Can I have a read? Or can you just clarify the difference between these two?

I'll grant that Eskimo Joe isn't really the high energy rock band that one would mosh to, but their show was really solid last night.

Do I sound like I know what I'm talking about?:p

[silentC]

Watery Pap: wishy washy, dreamy stuff with no real beat and a watery sort of melody. Lead singer a suspected homer sexual.

Sooky: girly sooky lyrics with jangly guitars designed to appeal to the chicks. Lead singer probably not a homer sexual but could be the type of person who picks up girls by making them feel sorry for him.

Hope it helps :D

[silentC]

BTW I just switched off JJJ because they started playing a Scissor Sisters song. That guy IS a homer sexual, not that there's anything wrong with that.

I've dug out an old Blur cd instead.

[Auld Bassoon]

Today I met a person as boring as myself. We discovered that we both listen exclusively to ABC radio. Does this mean that we are deceased?

I hope not! For radio listening, I only tune in to ABC Classic FM (it's on the car radio, the alarm clock, the study HiFi, the shed radio and the main HiFi...

But, I still have a good collection of Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Dire Straits, etc as well as many many hundred CDs of classical music. Oh, quite a bit of Enya and Clannad (the band she was part of before going solo) and Andreas Vollenweider, etc

[martrix]

Ever listened to Evanescence? They have a new album coming out and a new track is on the radio. Amy Lee has the most amazing voice....cool;)

[silentC]

I would just like to add Dan Kelly and the Alpha Males, whose new album is currenly being featured on JJJ, to the definition of Watery Pap.

In fact, I have just discovered that anything which Robbie Buck describes as "lucious", is in fact "watery pap", as he has used that word to describe BOTH Dan Kelly and the Alpha Males AND The Sleepy Jackson in recent weeks.

So, lucious (as defined by Robbie Buck) = Watery Pap (as defined by me). It's handy to know these things.

[benji79]

JJJ does play alot of crap, but they are the only station out there doing anything for smaller Australian bands. Went and seen Gyroscope and the Butterfly effect the other night and JJJ is the only station that will play them. both concerts were packed so there must still be a big audience for the station. Thankfully we still have a place in Wollongong called Yallah road house that still does live music.

[Felder]

Watery Pap: wishy washy, dreamy stuff with no real beat and a watery sort of melody. Lead singer a suspected homer sexual.


"I hear watery pap on the radio,
And that's the way I like it,
That's the way I like it."

Ben Lee = Watery pap, yes?

[silentC]

No, he's just irritating :D

Don't worry, you'll catch on ;)

[Felder]

Don't worry, you'll catch on ;)
:mad:CURSE MY FEEBLE BRAIN!:mad:

grumble....grumble...stoopid english language.....grumble....new definitions.......grumble.....silentC.......grumble....

[Ruddigar]

Kiss Chasey. Watery pap. :cool:

[silentC]

Definitely!!

[Cliff Rogers]

Did we just "do the time warp again"? :)

[WillBrook]

I saw George Thorogood in concert last time he was out here. Before he played the old Elmore James song "The sky is crying he said

"There's two types of music in the world today. The Blues and that bulls%^t you see on television.........if it that good, you'd be home watching it right now"

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