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michael_jenny
8th July 2006, 07:16 PM
hello
I am putting in some wireless c bus switches to replace some old dimmers.
I have three dimmers running some low voltage downlights. the dimmers have new lucci clipsal approved transformers.
The Neo switch is 2 channel,
is it possible to get three channel as i understand that i cant control the three different lights seperatly. ? In other words a two channel switch can only do two things.
You can get eight buttons per switch but they are for other scenes in other rooms etc .
am i right in thinking i will have to bunch three current lights into two or put in a second Neo switch. ?
as i say the confusion lays in seeing switches that are 2 channel but have eight buttons.
i am also getting trailing edge as im told they are the right model for the low voltage clipsal c bus dimmers, non wired.
any sparkys i guess or people in the know have any knowledge here.
thanks michael
thatirwinfella
9th July 2006, 10:54 AM
any sparkys i guess or people in the know have any knowledge here.
you should be leaving the job to these sorts of people
michael_jenny
9th July 2006, 11:28 AM
I am leaving it to them. they cant help me, hence this question. I have asked three electricians, and the local electrical supplier.
i know the style of switch but no one seems to know much about c bus
cheers michael
Clinton1
9th July 2006, 12:09 PM
I think they won't tell you in case it means that you are tempted to try putting it in yourself.
Dan
9th July 2006, 12:21 PM
I know bugger all about C bus so I just had a Google, there seems to be a fair bit of info about. Might be worth posting your question on the C Bus Forum. (http://www.cbusforums.com/forums/index.php)
Or try http://www2.clipsal.com/cis/technical/
swiftden
9th July 2006, 08:27 PM
You can download the installation guides for cbus and starserve from the clipsal website. I have just finished laying all the cable for star serve. decided i dint need cbus!. im sure ill regret it some time in the next 20 years but by then it will be old hat and there will be new stuff around. I installed the Networking, Phone hub, Tv distribution and the video modulator for dvd pay tv etc.
All the stuff is plug and play nil major programming to be done. All is cat5e cable and RG6 quad shield.
If you have absolutley no idea do some reaserch. The Cbus is alot more involved. There is mains wiring. In starsevre it relies on 12v plug pack for power!
Regards
Allan
Ps good luck
michael_jenny
11th July 2006, 01:06 AM
thanks all
spoke to Clipsal today. they have a tech helpline.
still i am amazed how little knowledge around about the wireless product which has been out for a while now. I checked with two well known large electrical wholesalers and many building type electrical people in the last few days. You really need to chase up most yourself.
The answer was often that stuff is all overpriced. that was c bus wired and wireless.
swifton reading now on the cable install.. it seems simple and a good priced system, so long as your using it I think.
cheers
Redgy
11th July 2006, 11:04 AM
The answer was often that stuff is all overpriced.
Yep, which is why not a lot of sparky's (including me) know much about it. It looks really great in the shiny brochures but I think it is way over the top, price & complexity, to really bother with. A bit of careful planning for the lighting in your living areas & external areas makes c-bus to me a waste of money....spend it on a plasma tely instead :)
Starserve as Swiftden was talking about is on the other hand a pretty good system for phone/TV/ethernet, I put it in my house & know many people who have done the same. With wireless networking very common now maybe hardwired ethernet is a bit redundant but I like the added security of it & if your wiring a new house then why not.
Reg