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Wild Dingo
27th June 2006, 04:03 AM
Well done boys! :cool:

Great effort robbed at the last minute by poor mongrel refs! :mad:

Final result Italy 1 Aussie 0... Not without some great play! :cool:

DanP
27th June 2006, 11:45 AM
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silentC
27th June 2006, 12:17 PM
I'm never eating prosciutto again :mad:

Cliff Rogers
27th June 2006, 12:24 PM
Not happy Dan?

Wild Dingo
27th June 2006, 12:53 PM
Personally I dont think it was the Italian teams fault nor our boys fault we lost... it was the pathetic bloody referees fault!! Now a lot of what passes for fouls in a game are often pretence thats a given the idea being to foul out as many of the other team as possible and therefore gaining free possession advantage...

That said the bloody ref called the Aussie for tripping and gave the free to Italy when the Aussie was a) already on the ground b) and of particular note the damned Italian player fell over him... he wasnt tripped he fell over... this means he should not have got the free and therefore Italy would not have won

However... lucky Italy well done... must be hard to win 10 men on the field with a ref in your back pocket eh? :rolleyes: but well done :cool:

The main problem I see is that particular bloody ref has been involved in other serious disputes over these games... he has given fouls when there were none give yellow cards for infringements that didnt happen and generally been very VERY bloody biased in his play... he needs to be kicked off the FIFA refs numbers

For my money... I reckon Guss should if he isnt already and anyone else involved at the highest levels should be complaining appealing and fighting this decision and result... the ref off and...

Play the game again!!!

DanP
27th June 2006, 12:55 PM
Not happy Dan?

Not even close.

FIFA want every nation in the world to play the 'beautiful game', but IMO the biggest drawback of the game is the diving and rolling on the ground like you've been shot. I also think it is the biggest thing keeping spectators away from the game in Australia.

FIFA made positive steps in the last World Cup and started yellow carding players for diving. This World Cup has gone full circle and refs are being fooled by the antics of the so called best players in the world.

Not only was that not a penalty, it should have been a free kick for Aus, as there was no need for the Italian to make contact with Neill. He could have easily stepped around him, but by that stage his avenue to goal was cut off. So he took the typical Italian option of staging for a penalty. The fact that the ref fell for it is an absolute disgrace.

Dan :mad:

MICKYG
27th June 2006, 03:51 PM
The effort by our team was superb, you dont suppose there could be a lot of lira to be had by that decision. It was too bloody silly for words and dissapointing for us, done by the whistle again:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Regards mike;)

bennylaird
27th June 2006, 05:26 PM
Bugger Wimbleton was rained out.

Simomatra
27th June 2006, 05:59 PM
The team played well, went to sleep a few times but managed to recover.

I also feelthe loss of two of our best player did not assist matters

The big pity out of all the matches so far (all matches) is the standard of refereeing from the so called FIFA referees.

I fell that some of our local junior referees would have done a much better go off it.

I can speak of experience as Mark Shields and my son Son of Sam) were top junior referees some years ago. Mark actually billeted at our place when he was junior referee for Queensland

Enough of the dummy spit, I wish the Italian team all the best in their future games

I am very proup of the way our boys played and copped it on the chin.

The experience for the boys will have been great and I look forward in four years to see them going much further

jow104
27th June 2006, 06:04 PM
I told yer!

4 weeks ago I posted my views that these matches and the results are dependant on match officals handling of the game.
Players 50%.
Results settled in the last 5 minutes of a match by officials, many many times.

ozwinner
27th June 2006, 06:26 PM
Whats soccer?
Is it a fish?
A tool?
A new car?

Al :confused:

lesmeyer
27th June 2006, 06:52 PM
Watching the games being played at this WC I cannot help but suspect that the refs were given a briefing at a Hitler Kamp. Most of them run around like little Hitlers waving silly little coloured cards and blowing the whistle at every turn. My 2c worth.:eek:
Les

fred.n
27th June 2006, 07:06 PM
Who Cares


All the Aussies could do was kick it straight to there keeper
They were out classed on all fronts, apart from the
whine that all loosers make
they sook just as much as an AFL team loosing the GF

Auld Bassoon
27th June 2006, 08:19 PM
See: http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/secret-italian-training-video.html (http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/secret-italian-training-video.html) :eek:

Daddles
27th June 2006, 10:41 PM
Who Cares


All the Aussies could do was kick it straight to there keeper
They were out classed on all fronts, apart from the
whine that all loosers make
they sook just as much as an AFL team loosing the GF

Isn't it interesting that you post crap like that and have your reputation points turned off. Moron.

Richard

Daddles
27th June 2006, 10:44 PM
See: http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/secret-italian-training-video.html (http://usa.worldcupblog.org/group-e/secret-italian-training-video.html) :eek:

That's choice. Nice one :D

Richard

Grunt
27th June 2006, 11:47 PM
Isn't it interesting that you post crap like that and have your reputation points turned off. Moron.

Richard

Richard, you've really got to stop taking this soccer crap so seriously. Every code of football has shyte hung on it.

You know, GayFL and Thugby.
People are allowed to have opinions about soccer that are different from yours.

Personally, I'm glad it's over so we can get back to the real footy.

Daddles
28th June 2006, 12:01 AM
Grunt, I'm happy to argue the merits and otherwise of all the codes, especially as I've followed all of them at one time or another - a product of living in too many states I'm afraid, including the state of dubious sanity:rolleyes: I'm even happy to toss insults at all codes and to field the same in return. But the AFL supporters who can't acknowledge the validity of soccer really need to grow up. It might be fun for the poster at the time but it becomes very tired for the rest of us. The AFL community needs to grow up in a big way and an important part of that is admitting that there are other codes out there that have merit - I'm sorry if you like watching the 'footy show' and the like, I find those shows immensely embarrassing.

And yes, soccer has its fair share of gong heads - you'll find me launching attacks on the bigots on various soccer forums as well.

You want to make jokes about sucker, footbrawl or thugby, and you'll find me laughing and adding my own. You start acting like your own code is the only one with any validity, which those I've attacked on this forum have done (and which is why they've copped a serve), and you'll find me getting grumpy. I turn 50 on sunday, I'm allowed to now;)

Richard
resident grouch ... but probably only in training compared to some of you lot :D

Lignum
28th June 2006, 12:06 AM
Gee you soccer mob are a touchy lot:cool:

Daddles
28th June 2006, 12:30 AM
Lignum, if you learn to show some appreciation of the other side instead of the blindness you invariably display, you'll find we'll give your attempts at 'humour' some credence. For the record, I played Australian Rules while at university and have the trophies to prove it. I haven't played any form or rugby except in parkland fun matches (which was touch football with some rather remarkable rules:rolleyes: ) and my experience at soccer doesn't go beyond spectating and coaching a kid's team. All four codes (yes, there are two differing codes of rugby) have their joys and horrors. It's people like you Lignum, who can't see beyond your own preferance that earn my ire. All the codes have their specialties and hence their individual joys. I personally enjoy all codes for their own specialities. I feel sorry for those of you who can't.

Richard

bennylaird
28th June 2006, 08:25 AM
I'm lucky in that there has been no mention at all of the soccer here at work, plenty about our local code. But the amount of it on radio and TV makes me glad I have Foxtel. Dont mind everyone supporting their own code as thats what sport is all about and a bit of pot stirring is fun. To each his own.

fred.n
28th June 2006, 08:29 AM
There you go Daddles.....it's on now
Red card me:D :D

womble
28th June 2006, 11:21 AM
[quote=DanP]Not even close.

FIFA want every nation in the world to play the 'beautiful game', but IMO the biggest drawback of the game is the diving and rolling on the ground like you've been shot. I also think it is the biggest thing keeping spectators away from the game in Australia.


hit the nail on the head there!

silentC
28th June 2006, 11:33 AM
I actually don't think I've seen too much of that in the games I've watched. The worst by far was the Australia v. Japan game, there was a bit with Croatia but not much at all against Italy or Brazil. I suppose you have to accept that as a tactic of the game, albeit not a popular one. Similar things happen in the other ball sports and people see them for what they are but accept that it's just a tactic. Like suckering a penalty in front of the goal in Rugby.

It's probably all part of the general perception that non fans have of the game that keeps them away. I remember when I was a kid, soccer was a "poofter's game". If you didn't play league, you were a girl. Actually even the girls played touch.

For me, I find it a frustrating game to watch. If you are wrapped up in it, then it can be excruiatingly exciting to watch the scurrying that goes on in front of the net but if you are emotionally detached, well frankly it can be dull to watch the ball get passed back and forth between the forwards and the centers. If you don't care about the result, then waiting 89 minutes for a goal can be a bit much.

It's a bit like the elusive rugby try. It's not uncommon for a match to go try-less, especially in the minors. At least there are penalty kicks to get points on the board.

I will never be an enthuiastic soccer fan. I wish I could get into it the way some people do because something that attracts the level of fanaticism that soccer does must have something going for it.

Grunt
28th June 2006, 11:43 AM
Similar things happen in the other ball sports and people see them for what they are but accept that it's just a tactic. Like suckering a penalty in front of the goal in Rugby.

This is one of my pet hates. It's just cheating in my eyes. It happens in Aussie Rules all the time. I think players who on video evidence, obviously stage a free, should be reported and miss matches.

Lignum
28th June 2006, 11:48 AM
This is one of my pet hates. It's just cheating in my eyes. It happens in Aussie Rules all the time. I think players who on video evidence, obviously stage a free, should be reported and miss matches.

Matty Loyd wouldnt get a game:rolleyes:

And what got me in the Italian game, Australia couldnt score for 40 minutes with an extra player

Zed
28th June 2006, 11:50 AM
do u think the soccor riots in stadiums and streets (during away games) is a consequence of frequent "little action" on the pitch ? <he asks half humouredly>

I'm also afraid the frequent diving and suckering a penalty will keep me away also. as will the low scores.

the aussies was robbed... its hard to feel sorry for the players though... a bunch of multi milionaires.... off they go crying back to thier clubs in england, spain, italy.. etc in thier lear jets and thier ferrari's... :rolleyes:

Lignum
28th June 2006, 11:55 AM
do u think the soccor riots in stadiums and streets (during away games) is a consequence of frequent "little action" on the pitch ? <HE humouredly half asks>


At the risk of upsetting Daddles, their has to be something in that. Ive been to Aussie rules and 70 thousand plus will go balistic and the contests on the field will be very spitefull and nasty, but no disruptions (maybe some minor scuffles) in the crowd. Its so non stop you just dont have time to get restless, and when its all over, they side by side leave and go their seperate ways with no malice. Oh i forgot that dosnt include visiting Victorians to Adelaide games, leave your car at home and take a rain coat;)

Grunt
28th June 2006, 11:56 AM
Them socceroos are smart and articulate too.


Words of wisdom from the Socceroos:-

"My parents have been there for me, ever since I was about 7." - Tim
Cahill

"I would not be bothered if we lost every game as long as we won the
league." - Mark Viduka.

"Guus Hiddink is the best manager I've ever had at this level. Well, he's
the only manager I've actually had at this level. But he's the best
manager I've ever had." - Lucas Neill.

"If you don't believe you can win, there is no point in getting out of bed
at the end of the day." - John Aloisi.

"I've had 14 bookings this season - 8 of which were my fault, but 7 of
which were disputable." - Ned Zelic.

"I've never wanted to leave. I'm here for the rest of my life, and
hopefully after that as well." - Mark Schwarzer.

"I'd like to play for an Italian club, like Barcelona." - Vince Grella.

"You've got to believe that you're going to win, and I believe we'll win
the World Cup until the final whistle blows and we're knocked out." -
Harry Kewell.

"I'm as happy as I can be - but I have been happier." - Mile Sterjovski.

"Leeds is a great club and it's been my home for years, even thoug h I
live in Middlesborough." - Mark Viduka.

"I can see the carrot at the end of the tunnel." - Craig Moore.

"I took a whack on my left ankle, but something told me it was my right."
- Harry Kewell.

"I couldn't settle in Italy- it was like living in a foreign country." -
Vince Grella.

"Germany is a very difficult team to play . . . they have 11
internationals out there." - Zeljko Kalac.

"I always used to put my right boot on first, and then obviously my right
sock." - Jason Culina.

"The Brazilians were South American, and the Ukrainians will be more
European." - Scott Chipperfield.

"All that remains is for a few dots and commas to be crossed." - Marco
Bresciano.

"One accusation you can't throw at me is that I've always done my best." -
Craig Moore.

"I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd." - Mark
Viduka.

"Sometimes in football you have to score goals." - Harry Kewell.

silentC
28th June 2006, 12:08 PM
Jeez I'd hate to see a similar list of quotes from league players!

Christopha
28th June 2006, 01:34 PM
Wasn't it Mick Malthouse who said, " Footy players aren't geniuses like Norman Einstein."

Grunt
28th June 2006, 01:52 PM
Wasn't it Mick Malthouse who said, " Footy players aren't geniuses like Norman Einstein."

He should have but I think the quote is attributable to this bloke.

"A genius is a guy like Norman Einstein." (http://www.sportshollywood.com/dumbquotes.html) : Looking for instances of dumb things said by Joe Theismann, I came across this list of dumb sports quotes said by lots of folks. Utter hilarity ensues when people try to use words they don't know.

On the same page as I found that quote I found this:

"This is Gregoriava from Bulgaria....I saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing."
-Pat Glenn - Weightlifting commentator

Lignum
28th June 2006, 02:12 PM
And Sandy Roberts Channel 7's sports commentator, he was an MC at a beauty pageant and one of the contestants had the unfortunate surname of Miss Dick.

When he was introducing her to the stage, he referred to her as "Miss Cock". :D

bennylaird
28th June 2006, 02:54 PM
Hmm a real cockup?

bennylaird
28th June 2006, 03:35 PM
OK all in jest could have been AFL etc lol.

bennylaird
28th June 2006, 03:36 PM
some more

Lignum
28th June 2006, 04:18 PM
Benny, you realy should have started of with "Now kiddies, dont try this at home or down the soccer club"