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ozwinner
18th June 2006, 09:30 AM
Hi all.
I have made a website for our shop, and I want any hints/tips you lot can give me about the layout, feel of the place.

Is it too cluttered, too slow, too anything?

I havent included any email contacts because I dont want to be bombarded with crap from Russia etc.

What about the sites security, what do I need to do or be doing?

http://www.treasures-on-plenty.com.au

Thanks guys and gals..
I expect you lot to be brutal, so dont hold back, just make sure you are wearing your leather Cod Piece when you whip me. :p

Al :)

Wood Butcher
18th June 2006, 09:41 AM
Looks pretty good. The only thing I would change is the colour of the text listing down each side of the page. It is a bit hard to read against that background. Otherwise has everything you need.

bitingmidge
18th June 2006, 09:47 AM
Well it certainly reflects the shop! :D :D :D

The pics could do with a navigation button when openened in a new screen, and I reckon are too big.

I think they could do with some words as well, just to keep the spruiking thing happening.

I wonder how many people will find that they are "clickable" without help?

I don't mind the grey, even though it's harder to read, it sort of reflects where the treasures are...all there in front of you but you've got to look for them ;) and if they were black or a different colour they could well make the page look a bit cluttered.

Your phone number runs to two lines on my browser, so the buttons could be further apart to allow for the html between to spread out a bit. I think they could be a bit bigger too, I missed them the first time round.

But I'm an uncluttered sort of girl!

Cheers,

P

Coldamus
18th June 2006, 10:10 AM
On computers with screen resolution of 1024 x 768, it looks fine. On 800 x 600 it is not so good - as per Midge's comments. The viewer has to scroll right and left as well as up and down to see a whole page.

Personally I would re-do it in 800 x 600 mode and then it should look OK on anything from that resolution up. It is generally accepted that 1024 x 768 or higher is now the norm. For people in the IT industry it certainly is but your target market of mums and dads are more likely to be using older computers.

But hey, you're on the web and that's one major hurdle overcome. You can take your time now and refine as you go.

regards
Coldamus

womble
18th June 2006, 10:17 AM
looks good, now you just have to catalogue and photograph everything and upload it to an online format, should be easy :D

echnidna
18th June 2006, 10:59 AM
An email address on your website is very important Al,
You could do it as a text within a graphic, that way the bots won't see it.
Or get a yahoo email address that you can dispose of if necessary.

I use 2 different yahoo addresses,
plus emails to my domains are redirected to the yahoo addresses.
I don't get that much rubbish,
but then again I don't surf the sites,
they do send you a lot of junk.

chrisb691
18th June 2006, 02:28 PM
So you want brutal..huh.

I'm not so good at brutal, so constructive criticism will needs suffice.

1) The site needs to be as pleasing as possible for the most possible number of visitors. Now you can't, and never will, please everyone. However, the bulk of pc users are still using 800 X 600 screen resolution, so you need to build you site to suit this res. When you work on the site, change your display over to 800 X 600, then you'll be seeing what it looks like to the majority of visitors.

2) On your front page, I found it hard to read the sidebar text. You need to bring the visibilty up somewhat.

3) I have several comments re you photo pages:-
a) If you are going to put photos up.....make sure they are in focus.
b) set the size of the photos to 640 X 480, which will ensure they will display okay on a 800 X 600 page.
c) I know they say that a photo is worth a thousand pages, but that is crap. You MUST have some text to explain what the visitor is seeing, otherwise it's just boooorrrring.
d) You need to put a navigation link back to the previous page, otherwise your visitor might hit the x button (thinking the page is a popup), and you've lost them. I did it.

Otherwise, it's a fair enough first attempt, which you'll improve on as you go along.

Daddles
18th June 2006, 03:25 PM
Sorry Al, but it looks cluttered and messy to me, and you can blame the pictures for that, there's so much in them that it pervades the whole page which is a pity because in reality, the page isn't cluttered and messy, it just looks it thanks to those pictures being so busy.

The grey on grey text at the sides is a non-event ... they're so hard to see that few will take the trouble - the average time spent on a webpage is a few seconds, no more.

Anything underlined on the internet is assumed to be a link so your underlined heading with no link caused a few moments of wondering if it was or wasn't.

The little statement at the bottom isn't needed legally and I don't really think it's needed in the real world either. At the moment, having it so large and having it there at all screams 'amateur'.

Not having an email address says that you aren't all that interested in being contacted. Sorry. The paranoia about bots and spam is just that, paranoia. Go to my (now horribly out of date) website and you'll find my email all over it, live and clickable, and I don't get a lot of spam and certainly far less than people here complain about. Put it up - you'll get more annoying emails from seppos who don't understand that they can't drive to you than anything else (this experience from running the ex's shop website for eight years).

I'd open the pictures in a new window, otherwise you'll get people doing what I just did, click the red cross and close the lot.

At the moment, your site just tells us there's a shop there - it doesn't tell us anything. Put some of that up, plus freebies, everyone loves a freebie, so add some pages about cleaning stuff, restoring stuff, the sort of eejit question people ask.

Speed? I'm on broadband and it popped up as sweet as you please. I'm also got my resolution set at above 800x600 so it looked fine apart from the above comments.

You did NOT include any dates of latest changes, etc. This is GOOD. Well done. This page will not need constant updating to keep it current and that, coming from someone who has maintained a series of sites over about 15 years, is a good thing. Maintaining a website can be a bear and even one as benign as yours will go out of date with a frightening speed.

You're smart to keep the initial site simple and not to promise too much for the future - sadly, the future often doesn't come despite the best intentions. Keep the thing 'complete' on the web - no blank links.

Do you have some method of tracking who visits? There are websites that, if you include a little bit of code to your page, will tell you how many people have been there, where they went and where they came from. This is very useful for working out what is working and what isn't on your site, and where your hits originate from. I use StatCounter.com - they offer a free service and a more comprehensive pay service (I use the free).

You avoided the temptation to use the frames, java, css, and all that other #### the the pros like to smother pages with. Keep it to simple html code and you'll be able to work on it yourself and you won't people off when they visit you.

You did well Al. Seriously. The comments above might feel like I'm overly critical but I'm not, already it's better than a lot that I see and that includes work by so called 'professional' web designers. You'll tidy that up nicely as time goes on and as you realise that something is bugging you or wants changing. Keep it simple and it will serve you well.

Richard

maglite
18th June 2006, 03:35 PM
Bl###dy amazing, i never realised that that you could get that much sh.. , erm quality merchandise onto an acre :p :p :p

Daddles
18th June 2006, 03:41 PM
Bl###dy amazing, i never realised that that you could get that much sh.. , erm quality merchandise onto an acre :p :p :p

You'd better tell Al about the 'quality merchandise', I'm sure it's not supposed to be there :D

Richard

Andy Mac
18th June 2006, 05:29 PM
It looks good!:D I'm sold and wanna visit, but you're in Mexico!! My only comments, and I'm not an expert, so take it with a grain of salt:

the grey is YUK!
It seems you have doubled up the list of goods on each side of the front page, is that for symmetry? I thought they were seprate items, and also tried clicking on them for a better look!?:rolleyes:
The photo of the shop is fascinating, but I found it out of focus, and it took up the whole screen.Keep going, I'm sure it will do your business good!

chrisb691
18th June 2006, 05:39 PM
Daddles does brutal really well. :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

echnidna
18th June 2006, 05:45 PM
I reckon Daddles is right on the button Al,

Keep it simple.

The easier it is to read the more likely you will get sales from it.

I'd just have 1 pic of the shop and I'd call it something like "shoppers heaven"

Add pics of selected items, priced and all,
I'd even put "buy Now" buttons on the items.

You might sell some stuff online,
(lets face people buy anything on ebay so why not from your website)
you need to make it so easy for your buyers they snap the goodies up.

Barry_White
18th June 2006, 05:48 PM
Your phone number runs to two lines on my browser, so the buttons could be further apart to allow for the html between to spread out a bit. I think they could be a bit bigger too, I missed them the first time round.


Cheers,

P
Hey Midge you obviously need something better than a Mac.

sbranden
18th June 2006, 06:00 PM
I agree with the grey on grey being difficult to read. Also:
change the title tag to have more than just "index"
I get the over one acre of goodies line covered up with the images
phone number is split over 2 lines
must have an email address
need text for the pics
navigation doesn't work when javascript is turned off
640x480 images would load quicker
doesn't validate with some minor errors http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.treasures-on-plenty.com.auIt is one of the better first attempts though

Auld Bassoon
18th June 2006, 06:17 PM
Hi Al,

Terrific first go.

I'm with the others on matters of resolution, the grey text, and having an email address the visitors can use.

I'd also add soem "keywords" in the code (eg "bric a brac", "antiques", etc) so that the search bots from Google and the like can find and index your site.

Perhaps also a "how to find us" page with a map, directions, etc.

It must have been fun collecting all that stuff. I remember my mother having an old (then) Singer sewing machine very similar to the one in one of your pics.

Cheers mate!

ozwinner
18th June 2006, 06:36 PM
Thanks guys for the input, now I want pictures of you in your Cod Pieces, you did read the posting rules didnt you?? :p

Ill bookmark this page and take on your comments over time.
Ill change to 800 res, what ever that is.
The grey text was black, but it looked over powering. And Ill do it down one side, I did it to balance up the page

The hoster Im with, Webcity, have all these neat stats on the CP, the site has already been visited by Yahoo, Google and Hotbot.
I can also see who has been and from where, and even who has bookmarked the site. It really has some unbeleivably useless stats.
I will put in an email address too.

Thanks guys for the input.

Al :D

jow104
18th June 2006, 07:15 PM
I think your web site should do well. You now need google to make you the first listing, so how about a special title to get yourself to the front of the list, something like "A" leave of the l :rolleyes:

By the way I went looking for a motor car on your site (remember I intend to come back this summer, cricket, fishing & painting) So perhaps you could have a wish list entry page on your site?

John

Grunt
18th June 2006, 08:21 PM
Where are the pictures of the naked goats?

ozwinner
18th June 2006, 08:26 PM
Where are the pictures of the naked goats?
Thats the next web Ill be doing.
www.Nakedgoats.com.au (http://www.Nakedgoats.com.au) along with.......

www.ihateplumbers.com.au (http://www.ihateplumbers.com.au) and www.goldgoldgold.id.au (http://www.goldgoldgold.id.au)


Al :p

RETIRED
18th June 2006, 08:36 PM
I think your web site should do well. You now need google to make you the first listing, so how about a special title to get yourself to the front of the list, something like "A" leave of the l :rolleyes:

By the way I went looking for a motor car on your site (remember I intend to come back this summer, cricket, fishing & painting) So perhaps you could have a wish list entry page on your site?

JohnWould you buy a used car from this man????:eek: :D

echnidna
18th June 2006, 08:37 PM
aint got a cod piece Al,
I'll just hafta hold onta it. ;) ;)

ozwinner
18th June 2006, 09:06 PM
I just updated the site, and the uploader told me it uploaded ok, but, it hasnt changed a bit.
Why?

Al :confused:

echnidna
18th June 2006, 09:35 PM
The website is probably updated but your browser cache hasn't,
hit the page refresh button and see wot happens.

ozwinner
18th June 2006, 09:47 PM
Yep I tryed that straight away Bob.
It made no difference.

Al :(

graemet
18th June 2006, 10:18 PM
I'm with most of the other critics, Al - the grey background just makes everything hard to see and the pics blow up blurry. Still there are better and more considered comments and suggestions further up the thread.
There must be some great bargains, though, you've not had to pay an arm or a leg for anything and you're ready to give a hand to anyone!
Cheers
Graeme

sbranden
18th June 2006, 10:41 PM
Al, here are a few things to try:
shift reload on your browser to bypass the cache (looks like you have already done this)
use an ftp client, file browser on the control panel or ssh to see take a look at the timestamp on the file on the server to make sure it has changed
double check that the uploader thing you are using is writing to the right location
make sure you saved the updates first before uploading
create another file, for instance test.html and upload it, then check to see if it is therehope one of those helps

shaun

Studley 2436
18th June 2006, 11:05 PM
I think the front page doesn't pop as yet.

If you open the background and lower the opacity on it you will turn all the grey soft and it will be more of a background. You might even put a little bit of Gaussian Blur on it just to fade it out a little more so it is less of a distraction and more of a background.

Change text colour. Maybe get buttons for the headings so the eye is pulled to the things that you are selling. Hotlink the buttons to the page with whatever the button is about. If you need to do it quick and dirty just hotlink to a photo with a back button and an email and phone number on it.

You can work forever with these things. There is a good site called Lissaexplains.com written by a kid who at 12 or something wrote her own HTML and made a site which almost bankrupted her until she learned about advertising etc. She tells some good stuff there and has grown up to be 20 or so and at Uni now.

Studley

echnidna
19th June 2006, 12:40 PM
I just updated the site, and the uploader told me it uploaded ok, but, it hasnt changed a bit.
Why?

Al :confused:

Al it still looks just the same to me,
Did you change the visual aspects or just do some minor stuff that don't alter the overall visual effect?

Coldamus
19th June 2006, 06:34 PM
I just updated the site, and the uploader told me it uploaded ok, but, it hasnt changed a bit. Why?


Al, I've noticed you now have another problem. If I go to your web address, your home page no longer appears. I just get a directory listing of the files on the server.

I think the reason is that you have saved the homepage as "Index.html" (with a capital I). Be aware that addresses on the internet are case-sensitive and the convention is to use all lower-case unless you specifically intend a word or url to have capitalisation. I think your host server is not serving up your home page by default because it expects the default page to be named "index.html" (all lower case).

It is very easy to make such a mistake. When you are working on drafting up a web site and have the files on your local machine, they are not case-sensitive but as soon as you load them up to a web server on the internet, they are.

The same applies to all your other page names and inter-page links. You either need to change all the names and links to lower case or ensure that the capitalisation of them is 100% consistent. I find it easiest to use lower case throughout to remove all doubt.

regards
Coldamus

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 06:47 PM
I think the reason is that you have saved the homepage as "Index.html" (with a capital I). Be aware that addresses on the internet are case-sensitive and the convention is to use all lower-case unless you specifically intend a word or url to have capitalisation. I think your host server is not serving up your home page by default because it expects the default page to be named "index.html" (all lower case).

Coldamus

You are a dead set legend, I spent all last night and the better half of this arvo trying to figure out what I had changed to make it not appear.

Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/approval.gifhttp://www.ubeaut.biz/approval.gifhttp://www.ubeaut.biz/approval.gifhttp://www.ubeaut.biz/approval.gif

Sturdee
19th June 2006, 07:41 PM
This website is best viewed with the monitor turned on


:D :D :D


Peter.

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 07:57 PM
:D :D :D


Peter.

I couldnt help it. :o

Al :D

echnidna
19th June 2006, 08:06 PM
Luv it Al,
Can I use it on my website too?

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 08:11 PM
It would be my pleasure Bob. :p

Also while we are at it, send me a link to your website so I can put it on my links page.

Al :)

echnidna
19th June 2006, 08:21 PM
Which website do you want a link for Al ?

www.ebooks.ausmade.com.au
www.australianmadesouvenirs.com.au
www.exclusiveprints.ausmade.com.au

Yer welcome to link to any of these Al.

p.s. back in 10 minutes or so, I gotta stick the best viewed bit in a few webpages

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 08:23 PM
p.s. back in 10 minutes or so, I gotta stick the best viewed bit in a few webpages

Cool :cool:

Al :)

echnidna
19th June 2006, 08:39 PM
Done , 17 pages updated , 1 page per minute.

Wood Butcher
19th June 2006, 08:43 PM
Bugger, I saw a copper similar to the one on your webpage at the tip the other day. Should've grabbed it seeing what it may never sell for.:D

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 09:04 PM
Bugger, I saw a copper similar to the one on your webpage at the tip the other day. Should've grabbed it seeing what it may never sell for.:D

Its all about, location, location, location.

Al :rolleyes:

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 09:10 PM
Wongo must have lots of rellies, as the site has had 135 hits from China.

Al :p

echnidna
19th June 2006, 09:13 PM
All wondering what they can make & flog to the reject shops et.al.

Daddles
19th June 2006, 09:34 PM
Hey Al, what's with that little sign in the background, the one that says 'Antiques made while you wait' :D

Richard

ozwinner
19th June 2006, 09:50 PM
Hey Al, what's with that little sign in the background, the one that says 'Antiques made while you wait' :D

Richard

:eek: Shhhhh.....:eek:

Al :p

echnidna
20th June 2006, 10:49 AM
how much d'yer sell them signs fer Al ? :D

Auld Bassoon
20th June 2006, 07:17 PM
:D :D :D


Peter.
Ditto :D :D Maybe I should send that "Usability" hint to the folks who "design (:rolleyes: )" web sites for the company that I work for...

ozwinner
20th June 2006, 07:26 PM
Weeeeeeell, ya got ta have a laugh dont ya, otherwise youd cry. :D

Al :p

ozwinner
21st June 2006, 09:10 PM
Hi Groovers.
Check out my updates and give you honest opinions.

I have change some things as youse advised, but cant for the life of me think why the res must be 800x600. :confused:

Anyone who views in 800x600 needs to update their computer..or get some glasses. :p

Al :)

RETIRED
21st June 2006, 09:53 PM
Much better Al.

All pages load quickly.

bitingmidge
21st June 2006, 10:28 PM
Al it is getting there!

The links on the Antiques page are pretty much impossible to read blue on a black background though!

cheers,

P

dazzler
21st June 2006, 10:35 PM
Hi Oz

I havent read any of the other replies so solly if I am repeating what anyone else has said.

I have done a course on "web page design for govt" :rolleyes: for what thats worth.

I think the following could be improved;

remove picture at bottom so that you dont need to scroll down to see whats there.

There is way too much info for a front page. Buttons or hyperlinks are great such as;

1) "Where are we?" that links to the address, a picture of the shop and a mudmap of how to get there.
2) "Opening Times" that links to these times
3) "What do we have" that shows all the items
4) "Specials"

Also think that the picture should be one large one not four small ones.

And also a catchy phrase "Treasures on Plenty for plenty of treasures" or something far better.

But seriously good luck!

Grunt
21st June 2006, 11:07 PM
And also a catchy phrase "Treasures on Plenty for plenty of treasures" or something far better.


How about "Does this get up yer Goat, I got up mine"

jow104
21st June 2006, 11:21 PM
I think it would be more attraftive if Al did what the motor trade always uses a pair of 40's plus stockings.;)

Daddles
21st June 2006, 11:22 PM
Hey Al. What's with this listening to what we have to say and improving your site? Cripes, at this rate, we'll start thinking you're serious :eek:

Looks good mate. Hope it makes a mint for you.

Richard

Sturdee
21st June 2006, 11:40 PM
Al, the background colour is too dark.

You cannot easily read the black writing on this very dark colour. A bit like the subtitles on tv shows where they are white on a white background.:eek:


Peter.

ozwinner
22nd June 2006, 06:11 PM
Al it is getting there!

The links on the Antiques page are pretty much impossible to read blue on a black background though!

cheers,

P

On my local and remote site the the links are in pink on black, curiouser and curiouser..

Al :confused:

ozwinner
22nd June 2006, 06:14 PM
Hi Oz

I havent read any of the other replies so solly if I am repeating what anyone else has said.

I have done a course on "web page design for govt" :rolleyes: for what thats worth.

I think the following could be improved;

remove picture at bottom so that you dont need to scroll down to see whats there.

There is way too much info for a front page. Buttons or hyperlinks are great such as;

1) "Where are we?" that links to the address, a picture of the shop and a mudmap of how to get there.
2) "Opening Times" that links to these times
3) "What do we have" that shows all the items
4) "Specials"
It was going to be just one page, but some how grew.

Also think that the picture should be one large one not four small ones.

I did think that too.

And also a catchy phrase "Treasures on Plenty for plenty of treasures" or something far better.

I could use Grunts idea!! :eek:

But seriously good luck!

I still have some refinining to do.

Al :o :)

ozwinner
22nd June 2006, 06:17 PM
Al, the background colour is too dark.

You cannot easily read the black writing on this very dark colour. A bit like the subtitles on tv shows where they are white on a white background.:eek:


Peter.

It must be on different computers as Midge has a problem with the link colours, but then Midge is a Macca Whacca...

Al :p

echnidna
22nd June 2006, 07:23 PM
There is a set of standard colors that are color correct on every computer, but as you've experienced odd colors can vary considerably from computer to computer.

Studley 2436
22nd June 2006, 07:31 PM
Oz did you calibrate your screen before you set all your colours. If not they could be all over the place. Even so when choosing colours you should assume that people looking at your sites are on uncalibrated monitors so choose colours that won't fall into each other easily.

Nothing to do with mac or anything else. Considering that Macs come for the most part with very good middle range monitors it might just be that his colours are much better represented than on you screen. There are some pretty horible monitors out there and they make all the difference between seeing it well or not.

Studley

ozwinner
22nd June 2006, 07:41 PM
Thanks guys.

Al :)

bitingmidge
22nd June 2006, 07:44 PM
It must be on different computers as Midge has a problem with the link colours, but then Midge is a Macca Whacca...

Al, different browsers render code differently.

A lot of PC authoring software still codes only for Internet Explorer rather than to the W3 standard, but colours are standard, so I don't think that's the problem!

Cheers,

P

sbranden
22nd June 2006, 09:06 PM
You will get similar results with strange fonts like the braddon you are using, some people will not have them, so they will get something plain like courier instead. Also remember that some people turn off javascript so don't rely on it completely for navigation.

I am still getting the split phone number and a few other issues.

I have just taken a screen shot (137kb so you can see the detail) and placed it at http://pcuse.com/shaun/pics/antiquecare.jpg

It might give you a better idea of how it looks than me trying to explain it.

shaun

ozwinner
22nd June 2006, 09:14 PM
Thanks guys, I might have to try some different web publishing software.
the one Im using is WSYIWYG Webbuilder.

Al :)

shep
22nd June 2006, 09:25 PM
bladdy nora you've got some stuff mate:eek:

shep

Coldamus
22nd June 2006, 09:59 PM
On my local and remote site the the links are in pink on black, curiouser and curiouser..

.....


It must be on different computers as Midge has a problem with the link colours, but then Midge is a Macca Whacca...

Al :p

Al, the reason you are seeing a different link colour is probably because you are seeing the colour for visited links.

Links can have three different colours depending on their state: - unused, currently active or previously visited.
This is to help users track which links they have visited.

When working on your web pages from your local machine, you probably tested each link. Once you did, your browser would display the links in the "visited link" colour. This is not what others see when they view a fresh page.

When designing your pages, it is a good idea to periodically clear history from your browser, then reload the pages so that you see what they look like when "fresh".

The three link colours can be specifically set. For example, the following code sets the background colour of a page to white, text to black, unused links to blue, active links to red, and visited links to a grayish colour.

BODY BGCOLOR="#FFFFFF" TEXT="#000000" LINK="#0000FF" ALINK="#FF0000" VLINK="#A0A0A0"

A very good reference if you ever need help on any aspect of html is here:

http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/html/

regards
Coldamus

jow104
22nd June 2006, 10:35 PM
Hi Ozwinner, have a word with our young grandchildren (8ish) they get lessons on this stuff at school these days. :D :rolleyes: :D

ian
22nd June 2006, 11:11 PM
Al
while the tag "best viewed with monitor turned on" is cute, you really need to decide what will be your "design" screen resolution.

I'm currently running 1280 x 1024 on a 17in LCD, which is pretty standard for 17 and 19in LCDs, you don't get 1600 x 1200 unless you have a 20in LCD or 21in CRT both of which are pretty serious screen sizes. Those with a 15in LCD are probably running 1024 x 768, while 15CRTs are probably running 800 x 600.

I'd guess that your "general user" is still pottering around with a screen resolution of 800 x 600 or if you're lucky 1024 x 768. Hey at work, guys with 17in CRTs downgrade teh resolution to 800 x 600 'cause "it's easier to read"
However, I think I'd design for 1024 x 768 on the basis that most PCs (whether LCD or CRT) sold over the past 5 years or so will support this resolution. You should state your design resolution on the site.

Also, try to avoid asking a user to scroll a few lines just so they can see the end of a page. If possible layout a page so that there is either 1 or 1½ or 2 or 2½ or 3, etc screens of information.

Others have commented on your use of fonts, link and background colours, I've a similar "looks yucky" response.

Lastly, it's 10:00PM I'm viewing your site, why can't I send you an email? Would you prefer that I rang you from California at 3:00AM?
While I appreciate that you want to avoid spam, if you put your email address in as a clickable graphic, I'm fairly certain that the 'bots can't see it so you shouldn't get too much rubbish.


thats enough for now


ian

echnidna
22nd June 2006, 11:18 PM
Al, I don't hide my email addresses and I only get a few spams each day,
oddly the spammers dont seem to work much on the weekends.

ozwinner
23rd June 2006, 05:18 PM
Lastly, it's 10:00PM I'm viewing your site, why can't I send you an email? Would you prefer that I rang you from California at 3:00AM?


Why would you want to ring me from California?

Al :confused:

ozwinner
23rd June 2006, 09:06 PM
Here is what Ive come up with thanks to your input..

Craporium (http://www.treasures-on-plenty.com.au)

Al :)

echnidna
23rd June 2006, 09:34 PM
Looks grate now Al

a true browsers paradise!!!

ps wallnut is an uncommon timber!!!!

anything like Walnut???

jow104
23rd June 2006, 09:45 PM
Bob, wallnut could have something todo with that signature perhaps. (nut hunter)

ozwinner
23rd June 2006, 09:58 PM
Alright youse 2, so I coant spill gud.

Al :p

ian
23rd June 2006, 09:59 PM
"That blue thing in the middle of the picture. I want it. How much? Can you ship it UPS Express ..."

or

"I need 10 left arms. How many have you got? ..."

Al
You've entered the world market. You shouldn't expect to only do business with people local to Melbourne.

BTW, the revised site looks much cleaner

best wishes
ian

ozwinner
23rd June 2006, 10:09 PM
"I need 10 left arms. How many have you got? ..."

ian

Arrrrh, a leftie ahhhh? :eek:

Al :p

echnidna
23rd June 2006, 10:14 PM
geez, I reckon those arms are worth a bundle with the right sales blurb!!

Sturdee
24th June 2006, 12:22 AM
Here is what Ive come up with thanks to your input..

Craporium (http://www.treasures-on-plenty.com.au)

Al :)


Al, your background is still that dirty dark green colour, as per Biting midge screen shot, and therefore I still can't read the writing on your featured items page and the links on the antique care page.

The busy dark background, whilst some no doubt like it, is difficult to read by people that don't have 20/20 vision and need glasses. Normally I close sites like that without further looking as it is too hard.

Peter.

Gra
24th June 2006, 12:35 AM
geez, I reckon those arms are worth a bundle with the right sales blurb!!

They would at least come in handy:p:D:D

Gra
24th June 2006, 12:36 AM
geez, I reckon those arms are worth a bundle with the right sales blurb!!
Al's building his own ARMy.....:D:D


Man I need to go to bed

ozwinner
24th June 2006, 09:26 AM
Al, your background is still that dirty dark green colour, as per Biting midge screen shot, and therefore I still can't read the writing on your featured items page and the links on the antique care page.

The busy dark background, whilst some no doubt like it, is difficult to read by people that don't have 20/20 vision and need glasses. Normally I close sites like that without further looking as it is too hard.

Peter.

Fixed. http://www.ubeaut.biz/party.gif

Al :p

scooter
25th June 2006, 04:33 PM
Alright youse 2, so I coant spill gud.

Al :p

Better than the phonetic alternative, Al ;) :p

ss_11000
26th June 2006, 05:01 PM
looks good Al....

ozwinner
26th June 2006, 05:10 PM
Thanks Stirlo.

Al :)