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Driver
26th June 2006, 02:12 PM
Under we by definition of a Shed under Section 5 alienating those who do not have ownership of a shed but work within a space be it a workroom, garage or other work space, and therefore should the definition of a shed be further defined as any other workspace under a Subsection to Section 5?

Excellent point Waldo. I suffer currently from a lack of appropriate shed-like structure (soon to be corrected, I hasten to add) and therefore have to operate in a corner of the patio (which is co-opted as a shed-substitute) so I understand - and entirely agree - that this situation needs to be covered in the Code.



Could I just get clarification on a couple of points
Clothing , are these allowed
Old track pants ?
Aprons ( including leather but only when actually doing boiler maker work )
Those dust coat things the teachers use to wear
And with visitors,
What are the rules as to suppling spare ear protection , eye protection , for visitors .

Are extra stubbie holders needed or should visitors supply there own.

Equally good points, Ashore. Some obvious gaps that need plugging!

Col

JDub
26th June 2006, 02:17 PM
Some other points/additions/suggestions: :cool:

5.2.1
For me my shed is a place where you can put something down and you can return one week later and there it will be, right were you left it.

5.2.2
Much like personal compost, you must keep turning it over for it to function properly.

Waldo
26th June 2006, 02:39 PM
G'day Driver,

As a suggestion might a shed be be defined as thus:

5.1.1 In leui of a bloke not being in owernship of a shed wherein tools / machinery reside in the undertaking or to the purpose of setting out to undertake such things, a 'shed' may be any given workspace or area not necissarilly confined within four walls, so as to also mean garage, workroom, patio/decking or any other such space that blokes undertake or set out to undertake projects therein.

silentC
26th June 2006, 02:49 PM
I dunno. A "patio" sounds like somewhere you might encounter chaps and fruity beverages.

In the spirit of the document, I believe that if you call it a shed, then it is a shed. ;)

Driver
26th June 2006, 03:40 PM
I dunno. A "patio" sounds like somewhere you might encounter chaps and fruity beverages.

:eek: :eek: :eek: Heaven forfend! That hadn't occurred to me but you're right. :eek:



In the spirit of the document, I believe that if you call it a shed, then it is a shed. ;)

It's a shed. It's definitely a shed.

Driver
26th June 2006, 07:55 PM
Here's the latest update. It includes additions suggested by:-

DanP - New content on Inter-Bloke Communications, Sharpening, and some supplementary advice on Standing and/or Leaning and Staring.

Zed - New - Acknowledgement of the (anonymous) authorship of Appendices.

Ashore - Blokely Attire and new stuff on Stubby Holders.

Waldo, JDub and silentC - The Shed.

Thanks, gentlemen for your sterling work.

Toodle Pip!

Col

RETIRED
26th June 2006, 08:07 PM
Now we know why the constitution took so long to write?;) :D C'est bien mon ami.

Waldo
26th June 2006, 08:18 PM
G'day Driver,

I'd like to put forward a motion that the latest variation and ammendment of the Code of Practice be accepted and passed. Any one willing to second?

And three blokey cheers to Driver for his outstanding effort. :cool: :)

Driver
26th June 2006, 08:23 PM
Now we know why the constitution took so long to write?;) :D C'est bien mon ami.

I knew when I started this thread that there was likely to be a bit of work in it. Actually, I'm surprised at how far we've taken it in a relatively short time. The thread's first post was only a week ago.

What hasn't surprised me is the enthusiastic way it has been embraced by everyone who has contributed and the genuinely creative thinking that has gone into the contributions.

(Je te remercis, mon vieux métis et hache-manieur!)

Col

Pat
26th June 2006, 08:30 PM
I second your motion Waldo. Many thanks to Col for this opus.:)

Skew ChiDAMN!!
26th June 2006, 09:08 PM
I wonder if the PTBs will consider including it in the Best of the Best?

A short while ago I posted something to the "Shedette" thread and then realised it raises a valid point... hence a slight revision for appraisal here:

If two sheds (shedettes' inclusive) are in close proximity no tools, fittings, parts of collections or any item that can be moved without use of an engine-hoist/forklift shall be moved from one abode to the other without previously obtained permission, preferably in writing. Blood- or tear-stained documents do not count as permission, nor does "In your dreams" or any verbal agreement made during a session involving blokes' drinks.

RETIRED
26th June 2006, 11:29 PM
I wonder if the PTBs will consider including it in the Best of the Best?

A short while ago I posted something to the "Shedette" thread and then realised it raises a valid point... hence a slight revision for appraisal here:

If two sheds (shedettes' inclusive) are in close proximity no tools, fittings, parts of collections or any item that can be moved without use of an engine-hoist/forklift shall be moved from one abode to the other without previously obtained permission, preferably in writing. Blood- or tear-stained documents do not count as permission, nor does "In your dreams" or any verbal agreement made during a session involving blokes' drinks.or other male/female arrangements. IE. agree or the answer is no.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
26th June 2006, 11:54 PM
And more on the subject of sharpening, which leads on to... well...

When a bloke finally deigns to sharpen his tools, he will do so in a truly blokely manner. It doesn't matter whether he's simply reshaping a $2 cold-chisel or honing a $mega handplane blade, every tool sharpened will be able to circumcise a gnat or split atoms with a simple flourish. The final shape of the sharpened edge is irrelevant, the tool may be rendered totally useless for it's original use, whereupon it may become a part of a collection or find an alternative use. All that matters is that it's sharp.

It is mandatory to prove this by testing it upon the hairs of the fore-arm, followed by hairs of the leg should more tools be sharpened than the arms can readily accomodate. Scarification is not necessary, although there are those who deem that no tool is truly sharp until it has been blooded.

NB: It is not considered blokely to shave anywhere below the neck except when sharpening tools. Similarly, waxing is definite chap behaviour except when caused inadvertently by removing dried glue, lacquer, paint or similar that wasn't noticed when it was leaned in, spilled or otherwise splashed.

NB#2 An important exception to the last exception is the "bikini line" as no bloke dressed in suitably blokely attire would ever be in this situation. Or admit to it, anyway. Which is, to a bloke, the same thing. Consequently this would be a good method to determine whether a visitor is a bloke or a chap, were it not for the fact that only a chap would attempt to apply it.

Cliff Rogers
27th June 2006, 12:27 AM
Struth Skew... take a breath... I'm going purple in the face reading this stuff. :o

Skew ChiDAMN!!
27th June 2006, 12:33 AM
And that's the condensed version. :o

BobL
27th June 2006, 01:51 AM
I just saw this a few minutes ago. My eyes are still watering from laughing so much. Have circulated to a few "blokes" who will seriously identify.
Thanks

Zed
27th June 2006, 08:08 AM
I second the motion to accept.

Ashore
27th June 2006, 09:27 AM
Then all those in favor ( with Col's Ok of course )

RufflyRustic
27th June 2006, 09:32 AM
Aye!!!!:D

doug the slug
27th June 2006, 09:48 AM
looks good to mehttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

JDub
28th June 2006, 12:19 PM
Aye!

Wongo
28th June 2006, 02:28 PM
Driver, apparently women like a bloke who is man enough to wear pink. Therefore pink must be a blokely colour.:cool:

Driver
28th June 2006, 07:04 PM
Driver, apparently women like a bloke who is man enough to wear pink. Therefore pink must be a blokely colour.:cool:

Mate, if you're referring to that Bundy ad, I'll point out to you something that the sheila has also missed: when she delivers that line about preferring a man who's man enough to wear pink, she's talking to a person (possibly a chap, I find it hard to believe he's a bloke) in a dyed pink polar bear suit.

This tends to dilute the potency of her argument.

Further, the pink in question has been derived from what is clearly a red footy sock judiciously dipped into the bear's bathwater by his blokely mates. (See Para 9 Blokely Attire, sub-para 9.3.3 Colour, sub-sub-para 9.3.3.4 Pink)

I think on either count the Code deals with your query satisfactorily. Thank you for raising it and providing us with an opportunity to test the Code's effectiveness. ;)

Skew ChiDAMN!!
28th June 2006, 07:38 PM
Yup. (Any more "ayes" and we'll be up to our necks in eye patches, wooden legs and Seaman Stains!)

Auld Bassoon
28th June 2006, 08:10 PM
Ah Ha! She said, as she waved 'er wooden leg!

Also known as "Aye!" :D

BobL
28th June 2006, 09:22 PM
Have run said code past various blokes at work.

Whilst meeting with general apporval one bloke suggests footwear section should include specific reference to;

"manky uggboot with gaffa tape reinforcement"

Carry on.

DanP
30th June 2006, 10:59 PM
"manky uggboot with gaffa tape reinforcement"


Seconded.

Driver
7th July 2006, 07:26 PM
OK, gents (see para 10- Inter-Bloke Communications, sub para 10.3 - Blokely Terms).

I have attached two files. They both contain the Code of Practice, brought up to date. One is in A4 format and the other in A5.

In the A4 file, amendments to the Code have been highlighted. They include:-

- Some minor modifications to the text throughout the Code, employing more precise terminology.

- An extra sub-paragraph on Sharpening in para 6 - Tools - suggested in part by SkewChiDAmN!!

- A useful addition to para 9 - Blokely Attire, submitted by BobL and his external sub-committee and dealing with the important issue of the gaffer-tape reinforced manky uggboot.

- A new section in para 10 - Inter-Bloke Communications, dealing with the previously omitted and very important area of Blokely Terms.

Please ensure that you read the updated Code of Practice and bring your personal copy up to date without delay to ensure compliance.

Thank you for your attention.

Toodle Pip!

Col

DanP
8th July 2006, 01:56 AM
1.1.1.1. Note: The latter two terms can be used inter-changeably when addressing any group of blokes but are probably most effectively deployed when addressing members of a rival institution: another sporting team or woodworking club, for example.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>


Or a bloke who has done himself an injury in the shed.

Dan

BTW: Toodle pip is a bit Chappish isn't it?

Cliff Rogers
8th July 2006, 10:07 AM
...BTW: Toodle pip is a bit Chappish isn't it?

Nah, it means 'the other end of the dog' :cool:

(Think about it.) :D

Driver
8th July 2006, 11:02 AM
BTW: Toodle pip is a bit Chappish isn't it?

I was wondering when someone would notice. ;)



Nah, it means 'the other end of the dog'

Not bad, Ginge, but verging on chappish, too, I reckon. :p

Cliff Rogers
8th July 2006, 11:10 AM
big's pum. :D

Ashore
10th July 2006, 08:25 PM
Today while out trying to get a new frog for a stanley 220 I bought some A5 paper and tonight I printed out this wonderful document.
Tomorrow I shall drill a hole in the top Right hand corner , cable tie together and shall enforce the rule that all who enter My Shed shall read and abide by the said document rules

Thanks to Driver ( Col) for the work and effort much appreciated

HomeLife
11th July 2006, 04:22 AM
I dunno if this has already been mentioned but its a must to have a place in the shed which is reserved to "incubate" new tools until the missus realises that you already owned it a long time ago....;p

Caliban
21st July 2006, 11:27 PM
Col
Somehow I only noticed this thread tonight and have sent myself to stand in the corner for being so unblokely.
Whilst there I read a thread about intercoms between house and shed. This is something swmbo has tried to get me to install. I am proud of my efforts of passive resistance. Such a device would remove the very soul of the shed. It would reduce the shed to another place from where I could be found out hounded, harrangued and summoned.:eek:
This must be made part of the code. Imagine not being able to use the old "if a machine is running don't come tapping me on the shoulder" line.
This is a threat that no one else has foreseen. As insidious as telemarketers are in the house.
I know this is a really late amendment but without it all previous efforts may well be thwarted.

echnidna
21st July 2006, 11:52 PM
Right on Caliban,
An intercom is just like a mobile phone - a peace and tranquility wrecker!!!!!

Driver
22nd July 2006, 11:00 AM
Jim

Remove yourself from the corner without delay!

You have spotted a major omission from the Code and blokes everywhere will be grateful to you for your sterling work in helping to plug what had the awful potential to develop into a major breach in the defences of the Domain of the Bloke. Your name has been added to the Drafting Committee listed in Appendix D.

I attach the latest amendment to the Code, including a vitally important new Note under sub-para 5.7 - Warning signs.

The new additions have been highlighted in yellow, as usual. The Code's draughtsmen have taken the opportunity to make some other minor changes, highlighted in green. These have the effect of aligning parts of the Code in a more logical sequence.

Blokes everywhere are urged to update their copies of the Code to bring it into line with these updates.

Col

echnidna
22nd July 2006, 11:27 AM
Another important addition that is essential to the code is that Blokes should avoid knowing the rules about everything anmd anything (especially swmbo's) so that they can genuinelly plead innocence to all allegations:)

Driver
22nd July 2006, 11:37 AM
Another important addition that is essential to the code is that Blokes should avoid knowing the rules about everything anmd anything (especially swmbo's) so that they can genuinelly plead innocence to all allegations:)


Bob

I think I understand this but it would help if you could suggest some wording to be included in the Code.

Col

echnidna
22nd July 2006, 01:16 PM
Blokles are always entitled to be presumed innocent coz they don't know the rules.!!!!!!!!!

Driver
22nd July 2006, 04:50 PM
Blokles are always entitled to be presumed innocent coz they don't know the rules.!!!!!!!!!


Right. Got it!

I'll work on this and issue an update.

craigb
22nd July 2006, 04:54 PM
Not sure if this has been covered but if not I'd like to humbly suggest for inclusion:

"Under no circumstances should a Bloke ever completely read the instructions to anything.
Ideally they shouldn't be read at all, but if absolutely necessary a casual flick though should be more than enough for any bloke to operate/assemble anything".

Dan
22nd July 2006, 06:13 PM
"Under no circumstances should a Bloke ever completely read the instructions to anything.
Ideally they shouldn't be read at all, but if absolutely necessary a casual flick though should be more than enough for any bloke to operate/assemble anything".

Yep. Even if you've got no idea at all, a bloke should at least unpack everything and make an attempt. Extra points if you can work out how to make it stronger, faster or better looking. High achievers will be able to get a completely different use/function from the original item.

Good one Craig.

echnidna
22nd July 2006, 06:17 PM
So I use old beer cans as shim metal - does that mean I'm a high achiever:D

btw steel beer cans are about 4 thou thick and ally is about 8 thou thick,
dunno what a baked beans tin is though:rolleyes:

Dan
22nd July 2006, 06:21 PM
So I use old beer cans as shim metal - does that mean I'm a high achiever:D

Why not?:D

Driver
22nd July 2006, 07:50 PM
This is sterling work, gents.

Craig's suggested inclusion, with Dan's amendment, will be included in the next update.

Watch this space!

(Incidentally, I trust you blokes have noticed that the Code received meritorious inclusion in a recent episode of the Rip saga. It was, in fact, cited as sufficient justification for Groans and Shorty to facilitate Moichael's latest flight over the taffrail and into the 'oggin!).

Caliban
22nd July 2006, 11:03 PM
Col
Thanks for the "get out of the corner" card. Also clear your pm inbox. Popular buggar. Also today I was hiding (read researching) in my shed when I noticed a partially complete restoration. It is a broken bar stool. It is inverted waiting for me to find the glue. Is this acceptable? Or is it, although broken, an open invitation for four "chap" types to make themselves at home and take a seat?
Could I have inadvertently breached the code whilst trying to have at least three(3) unfinished jobs on the go.(no pun intended) To me and every other true bloke out there the article in question does not represent a seat as such,so really I only have one stool in its normal (legs down) attitude.:confused: :confused: :confused:

Dan
23rd July 2006, 12:13 AM
While you're editing Col, I've got a couple of suggestions and one minor correction.

10.3 Blokley terms
How about including Fellas (Fellers sp?)?

10.3.1
Just about anything derogatory would also qualify eg knobhead, Boofhead, big nose, tosser, wanker etc.

9.3.2.1. It is recommended, notwithstanding the strictures of para 9.3.4 – Colour,

Should read 9.3.5 Colour

craigb
23rd July 2006, 12:21 AM
While you're editing Col, I've got a couple of suggestions and one minor correction.

10.3 Blokley terms
How about including Fellas (Fellers sp?)?

10.3.1
Just about anything derogatory would also qualify eg knobhead, Boofhead, big nose, tosser, wanker etc.

9.3.2.1. It is recommended, notwithstanding the strictures of para 9.3.4 – Colour,

Should read 9.3.5 Colour

Geez Louise. :p
You don't work in the public service do you? :p :D

havenoideaatall
23rd July 2006, 12:01 PM
I had a recent landmark case in my jurisdiction - I know there is plenty of case law pertaining to it elsewhere but I couldn't show initially that they applied in my local jurisdiction.

In me vs Chief (2004), there was a lengthy drawn out proceedings where I had to apply for a decision on articles and possessions belonging to Chief which she wanted to store in the shed and I wasn't prepared to accomodate. Ipso facto, I got the decision in my favour.

I realise the spirit of the law is important here. The shed is my dominion so it is my decision. But is there a need to allow for this explicitly in the code?

eg. "No partner may commence proceedings for application to store articles or possessions without first lodging the plan with the owner, who may consider them on merit but is obliged to indicate that the application will almost certainly be rejected out of hand. The burden of proof follows the stricter criminal law code; the appliant must prove beyond reasonable doubt there is no impediment to storage, unlike in the civil law where he must look at the 'balance of probabilities".

Articles or possessions include but are not limited to:
single beds, currently not in use,
pictures,
old oil heaters, (although prima facie, they do provide warmth for the shed and this may be considered).

Some owners may feel they can accomodate and hold, with agreed access, a limited of gardening accoutrements and articles if no other shed is available. However on the law that 'fill expands to fill all avaliable space' it is to be discouraged."

Incidentally fellows, in an appendix, can we include such cases that have come inter alia, part of commonlaw, if not yet enshrined and codified under statute.

I invite you blokes to submit examples of past cases in your jurisdiction. As all such cases won by SWMBO are not deemed to be correct in higher court, [this forum] despite ratified by the commonwealth, they need not be included.

Dan
23rd July 2006, 01:03 PM
"No partner may commence proceedings for application to store articles or possessions without first lodging the plan with the owner, who may consider them on merit but is obliged to indicate that the application will almost certainly be rejected out of hand.

Don't know about the rest of youse blokes and not having been in this situation myself, but I would expect that ownership of said articles or possessions would transfer to the owner of the shed after say, a week?

Driver
23rd July 2006, 01:28 PM
OK ladies

Some heavy correspondence on Code-related matters this fine winter's morn!

Dealing with your input in no particular order:-

1. havenoideaatall. Mate - you are to be congratulated for your enthusiasm. It is clear that you have a fine grasp of the principles of the Code and your blokely status is unquestioned. Indeed, you are demonstrably a Good Bloke. However, in your (as I said, unquestioned) blokely enthusiasm, you have missed the most obvious point. I refer you to the Code: para 3 - Definitions and I quote:-

"3.1. Bloke – a bloke is the owner, occupier and user of his shed."

and:-

"3.2. Shed – a shed is the domain, demesne and realm of a bloke."

also:-

"4.2. The purpose of a shed.
The purpose of a shed is to provide an environment and territory wherein a bloke has total and complete dominion and control and is therefore happy."

This, I believe, deals with the important issues you raise. Thank you for providing another opportunity to demonstrate the effectiveness of the Code.

Incidentally, your point about case law and precedent is well taken. I suggest that this thread, in its entirety, can provide the necessary body of reference for this purpose.

2. Jim, me old Caliban, it's definably a Work In Progress (WIP). To quote your own post: "....a partially complete restoration. It is a broken bar stool." Until such time as it is a complete restoration, at which point it will become a mere bar stool, it remains a WIP. No violation of the Code is at issue here.

3. echnidna. Very good work, Bob. I've added an entire new paragraph (para 11) on the subject of Extra-Bloke Communications.

4. Craig. Ditto. A new section on new tools has been added under para 6 - Tools.

5. Dan. Good work on blokely terms. Duly noted and amendments incorporated. Thanks for spotting the error in numbering. (Craig: tsk,tsk, mate - it's important to get these things right - this is THE Code of Practice).

I attach the latest Code update. Please bring your copies up to date to avoid potential violations by omission.

Col

havenoideaatall
23rd July 2006, 02:27 PM
Thanks Driver, I am aware that the code provided for such a point, but thought maybe we could make it explicit.

Seems to me that any post on this forum amounts to precedent and also forms a body of case law.

echnidna
23rd July 2006, 03:37 PM
Shouldn't there be a link to this forum on each page?

craigb
23rd July 2006, 03:51 PM
(Craig: tsk,tsk, mate - it's important to get these things right - this is THE Code of Practice).



Sorry Col. :o
Consider me chastised. :o

ozwinner
23rd July 2006, 06:59 PM
Newaddition to the blokey clause.

Steve ( Auld Basson ) and I are allowed to say chap.

Al :p

Auld Bassoon
23rd July 2006, 07:28 PM
Newaddition to the blokey clause.

Steve ( Auld Basson ) and I are allowed to say chap.

Al :p

:D :D :D Quite so, old pal, don'tcha know!

Driver
23rd July 2006, 08:35 PM
Newaddition to the blokey clause.

Steve ( Auld Basson ) and I are allowed to say chap.

Al :p


Well in that case, try to keep your voices down. We don't want people to get the wrong idea. :eek:

(I'm not even going to mention the fact that you used that sheila's word 'blokey' instead of the correct term: 'blokely').

Also, there is no "blokey clause". :confused: Are you sure you're not confusing it with Santa Claus? ;) Al, have you taken to going outdoors without your foilie again? :eek:

Driver
23rd July 2006, 09:41 PM
OK girls,

I've been using the A4 format for most of the updates but, as those of you who have been following this thread will know, I have saved a version in A5 size.

A5 is actually more usable as a printed version. I find A4 a bit unwieldy, especially in the shed.

Keeping both sizes updated is a bit of a PITA but I'm happy to do that if both formats are wanted. Otherwise, I'll revert to A5 only.

Tell me what you think.

Col the Formatter

Cliff Rogers
23rd July 2006, 10:08 PM
Col, I don't think it matters at this stage 'cos I'm not going to print it while it is still being updated so often. :D

Maybe, if it is even finished, a hard copy in A5 format would be good to have on hand, just in case the power fails. :cool:

You mentioned making a cover to suit the A5 version, did you ever get around to it?

Driver
23rd July 2006, 10:34 PM
You mentioned making a cover to suit the A5 version, did you ever get around to it?


I did but it's very uninspired.

I've been looking (unsuccessfully) for a good illustration of a shed. What I have in mind is a cartoon rendition of either a cluttered internal view or a ramshackle external view. The external would need to be distinctly Aussie (ie, corrugated iron, overhanging eaves etc).

Any ideas? Better still, any good illustrations?

journeyman Mick
23rd July 2006, 11:19 PM
Col,
I reckon each shed dweller needs to make his own cover, design and materials used therin dependant on their shed practices. So, a few possibilities:
timber beautifully finished (machine) Major Panic;
timber beautifully finished (darkside) Derek Cohen;
bushmilled timber Exador
timber (silky oak) but unfinished (hinges missing etc) Me :o
Metal covers, cobbled together artfully from assorted car parts, Andy Mac
Leather bound legal volume type Boban

etc etc etc

Mick

Waldo
23rd July 2006, 11:31 PM
G'day Driver,

How's this pic?

Waldo
23rd July 2006, 11:40 PM
G'day,

Or any of these?

Waldo
23rd July 2006, 11:47 PM
G'day,

2nd attempt. :)

Skew ChiDAMN!!
24th July 2006, 12:00 AM
Col,
I reckon each shed dweller needs to make his own cover, design and materials used therin dependant on their shed practices. So, a few possibilities:
timber beautifully finished (machine) Major Panic;
timber beautifully finished (darkside) Derek Cohen;
bushmilled timber Exador
timber (silky oak) but unfinished (hinges missing etc) Me :o
Metal covers, cobbled together artfully from assorted car parts, Andy Mac
Leather bound legal volume type Boban

And don't forget: blobs of sawdust & shavings, held together with glue, lacquer & the occasional nail/screw/lost tool (me :rolleyes: )

havenoideaatall
24th July 2006, 09:09 AM
Looks like the sort of thing a remote rural fire brigade would store its 'appliance' in.

RufflyRustic
24th July 2006, 09:30 AM
.....
Any ideas? Better still, any good illustrations?

See Attached as an idea/suggestion.

cheers
Wendy

craigb
24th July 2006, 09:45 AM
See Attached as an idea/suggestion.

cheers
Wendy

I didn't know you'd been to Wood Borer's shed Wendy. :D

Cliff Rogers
24th July 2006, 01:53 PM
..I've been looking (unsuccessfully) for a good illustration of a shed. What I have in mind is a cartoon rendition ... any good illustrations?

I reckon one of Saltbush Bill's sheds by Eric Jolliffe should do the trick.
I can't find one on the internet in a hurry.

Driver
24th July 2006, 02:08 PM
Col,
I reckon each shed dweller needs to make his own cover, design and materials used therin dependant on their shed practices. So, a few possibilities:
timber beautifully finished (machine) Major Panic;
timber beautifully finished (darkside) Derek Cohen;
bushmilled timber Exador
timber (silky oak) but unfinished (hinges missing etc) Me :o
Metal covers, cobbled together artfully from assorted car parts, Andy Mac
Leather bound legal volume type Boban

etc etc etc

Mick

Mick - this sounds like a very good plan. The Code, after all, makes it quite clear that a bloke is in absolute control of all matters pertaining to his shed so it's entirely appropriate that the cover of a given bloke's copy of the Code should fit his particular style.

For those who want a printed version, I'll have a go at putting one together if I can find a decent illustration.


Waldo - thanks for the pics. All good - except for the distressed dunny - I have to offer you some advice and guidance here. It would be a potentially serious mistake to confuse your shed with your dunny. A dunny only fulfills one of the Code's requirements: that it contains but a single seat. In other respects ......:eek:

Wendy - that's a great photo and is a definite contender.


I reckon one of Saltbush Bill's sheds by Eric Jolliffe should do the trick.

Cliff - spot on. That's what I had in mind. I'll have a bit of a Google. I'd also like to include the UBeaut logo and I've asked Neil for permission but he hasn't got back to me yet. I know he's been a bit busy lately so I'll give him a rev.

Col

RufflyRustic
24th July 2006, 02:33 PM
I didn't know you'd been to Wood Borer's shed Wendy. :D

:D I wish :D I've heard you could sink in there and not be found for years ;) :D

It's my Uncle's Shed. Like Father, Uncle, Grandad, Great-Grandad, etc etc etc etc like .... :confused: me :)

Ashore
24th July 2006, 02:36 PM
OK girls,

I've been using the A4 format for most of the updates but, as those of you who have been following this thread will know, I have saved a version in A5 size.

A5 is actually more usable as a printed version. I find A4 a bit unwieldy, especially in the shed.

Keeping both sizes updated is a bit of a PITA but I'm happy to do that if both formats are wanted. Otherwise, I'll revert to A5 only.

Tell me what you think.

Col the Formatter

Like the A5 format have printed out a copy in that size , works well the size is easy to handle and the font is readable.

I thought about the cover and I rekon it needs to look official , I mean its "the standard" isn't it you don't want a picture of someone elses shed do you , and if you leave it up to the indivudal well some may not have the time to come up with a quality cover. You can't have a picture of a paticular wood working implement either as some are darksiders and some just burn electrons, so something eye grabing and official with a dire warning that it must be read & adhered to by all who enter, and in recognition of all the time and effort "compiled by Driver" or Col as you preffer and a thumbprint of your avatar or of you looking all stern and blokey.

Rgds
Russell

Driver
24th July 2006, 03:06 PM
It’s a wet and miserable morning outdoors and I haven’t got much of a workload today so I’ve been pondering Code-related matters. Here are some thoughts.

On re-reading my post #152 above, I feel I may have given the impression that I was dismissive of the detailed input from havenoideaatall. If so, I apologise. That was not my intention. Brother have raises an interesting point about the potential for a bloke’s shed to be co-opted as a storage area for items of a non-blokely disposition and character. Putting it bluntly, a bloke can’t allow his shed to be filled up with old crap on the whim of non-bloke members of the household. If he chooses to fill it up with old crap :eek: er, that is, potentially useful material of his own, that’s different

However, where Brother have and I differ is in the area of detail. I believe the Code should be a guide, not an instruction manual. It is designed to provide advice and general direction but not to give instructions to fit every situation a bloke may meet.

In that respect, the description ‘Code of Practice’ was carefully selected.

In the area of prescribed behaviour for the community at large there are three levels of guidance:-

Legislation – enshrined in common law and statute and establishing both the boundaries of acceptable behaviour and appropriate punishment for breaches. (Not to be confused with The Laws of Shed Physics – see below).

Regulations – detailing specific rules that are to be followed.

Codes of Practice – setting guidelines and offering advice.

So, when it comes to a bloke and his shed, well, he is in charge and therefore can be considered to have the authority to establish both common law and statute. For regulations – again - a given bloke sets the rules for his own shed.

The Code of Practice is not designed to be prescriptive about shed activities but instead to provide general guidance for all blokes engaged in shed activities – in both their own and other blokes’ sheds. Where the Code occasionally veers into the prescriptive, this tends to be on matters that are well understood by blokes and simply require authoritative confirmation from the Code: in the area of blokely drinks, for instance.

Now, as to the Laws of Shed Physics. Think of the concept of Bistromaths, described by Slartiblartfast in Douglas Adams’ Hitch Hiker series. The Laws of Shed Physics are not laws established by precedent or statute. They are nature’s laws. They are immutable and inviolable. You can’t break the Laws of Shed Physics any more than you can break any other law of nature. To attempt, for example, to place a limit on the number of clamps you might need is as futile as trying to breathe by inhaling water while submerged. Doesn’t work, can’t be done. Dire consequences will follow.

(Incidentally, it’s fairly obvious that the only reason Slartiblartfast isn’t named Slartiblartfart is because Hitch Hiker was originally a radio series broadcast by the BBC, who clearly would have vetoed anything overtly vulgar).

Col the Ponderer

Driver
24th July 2006, 03:15 PM
Like the A5 format have printed out a copy in that size , works well the size is easy to handle and the font is readable.

I thought about the cover and I rekon it needs to look official , I mean its "the standard" isn't it you don't want a picture of someone elses shed do you , and if you leave it up to the indivudal well some may not have the time to come up with a quality cover. You can't have a picture of a paticular wood working implement either as some are darksiders and some just burn electrons,

Good points Russell. For those who don't have the time etc, as I said in an earlier post, I'll try to produce something useful.


so something eye grabing and official with a dire warning that it must be read & adhered to by all who enter, and in recognition of all the time and effort "compiled by Driver" or Col as you preffer and a thumbprint of your avatar or of you looking all stern and blokey.

Rgds
Russell
Not so sure about this bit. It's not my Code, it's our Code so I certainly won't be using my avatar or name on the cover. I appreciate the sentiment but that would be wrong. I would like to have a prominent reference to the UBeaut Bulletin Board and I'll be looking for Neil's permission to use the BB's UBeaut logo.

Blokes might like to put a simple notice on their shed doors, something like:-


Visitors are advised that
this is a shed and all persons entering
are subject to the Code of Practice.

Col

Ashore
24th July 2006, 03:33 PM
I know its not your code but you were the Drivering force behind it and have done a mighty job in compiling and editing it , but the decision is yours .
Rgds and thanks for the effort

Auld Bassoon
24th July 2006, 07:32 PM
I know its not your code but you were the Drivering force behind it and have done a mighty job in compiling and editing it , but the decision is yours .
Rgds and thanks for the effort

Hear Hear! A toast to Driver - with, of course, nothing containing bubbles (unless its beer) or an excess of fruit :D

Caliban
24th July 2006, 08:07 PM
Tutti- fruitty baby.

All hail Driver!

DanP
24th July 2006, 08:51 PM
Col,

I'm a tad concerned about your blokeliness. First, "toodlepip", now this;

recently a disturbing trend has been reported by blokes whose life partners have suggested that devices be installed in sheds that will allow said life partners

Life Partners? What happened to the "missus" or the "sheila" or even just plain SWMBO. You'll be calling your shed a "studio" soon and serving latte's in it.

Dan

Andy Mac
24th July 2006, 09:23 PM
Hi Driver,
Here's something you may be interested in as a cover picture. Its a scan of a photocopy of a drawing I did many years ago, so the quality is pretty poor.:o The original I gave away, and this B&W is the only copy I have. Original had some colour over the inkwork, and was A3; this is an A4 scan of half the drawing, but may suit your needs.:)

Cheers, and thanks for all your work on the Code!

echnidna
24th July 2006, 10:00 PM
Can I use that pic to help get our mens shed going?

Driver
25th July 2006, 07:56 AM
Here's something you may be interested in as a cover picture. Its a scan of a photocopy of a drawing I did many years ago, so the quality is pretty poor.:o The original I gave away, and this B&W is the only copy I have. Original had some colour over the inkwork, and was A3; this is an A4 scan of half the drawing, but may suit your needs.:)


Andy

That is exactly what I had in mind. It's absolutely ideal! The fact that it was drawn by you, a member of the BB and of the Code's drafting committee, means that it selects itself.

Thanks, mate! You are hereby officially confirmed as a Bloody Top Bloke!

I'll work on the cover design and post it with the next update.

Thanks again. Great drawing!

Col

RufflyRustic
25th July 2006, 09:35 AM
Andy

That is exactly what I had in mind. It's absolutely ideal! The fact that it was drawn by you, a member of the BB and of the Code's drafting committee, means that it selects itself.


I agree



Thanks, mate! You are hereby officially confirmed as a Bloody Top Bloke!


I agree


Even though I don't really fit into this CoP, I think I'll ditch the other version and just follow the one and only real CoP. I can't beat it and it actually applies more to me than any other could. I might just keep that little bit I wrote as a codicil though.....

Cheers
Wendy

craigb
25th July 2006, 09:51 AM
Even though I don't really fit into this CoP,

'Course you do. Blokedom is a state of mind. :D

Driver
25th July 2006, 09:55 AM
Dan

I've only just spotted your earlier post so forgive the slightly tardy response.




I'm a tad concerned about your blokeliness.
Well - concern yourself no more, Brother Dan, I noted your concern and turned to Appendix B of the Code: to whit, the Blokeness Quotient quiz. I took the quiz and I'm proud to report that I achieved a score of 27 points and a rating of Maaate! Accordingly I have given voice to the prescribed muted yell of triumph and had a celebratory blokely drink. It's only a little before 7.00 am so I confined myself to a cup of coffee (not, incidentally, a latte!).




You'll be calling your shed a "studio" soon and serving latte's in it.

Rest assured that neither of those two dire predictions will come to pass. :eek:

Col (the Bloke) :cool:

Driver
25th July 2006, 09:56 AM
'Course you do. Blokedom is a state of mind. :D

Y'know, that could almost be the title of a song .......

havenoideaatall
25th July 2006, 09:57 AM
On re-reading my post #152 above, I feel I may have given the impression that I was dismissive of the detailed input from havenoideaatall. If so, I apologise.

In the area of prescribed behaviour for the community at large there are three levels of guidance:-

Legislation – enshrined in common law and statute and establishing both the boundaries of acceptable behaviour and appropriate punishment for breaches. (Not to be confused with The Laws of Shed Physics – see below).

Regulations – detailing specific rules that are to be followed.

Codes of Practice – setting guidelines and offering advice.



Driver, the thought did occur to me. I framed my contribution against the backdrop of legalese, when this is a Code of Practise. Some Codes are legal documents -eg The Building Code of Australia. (Correct?)

Of course, there are elements of the Code which bloody well should pass into statute. There are elements the transgression of which constitute crimes of absolute strict liability(!)

Driver
25th July 2006, 10:02 AM
....when this is a Code of Practise.

Brother have - this is THE Code of Practice!



Some Codes are legal documents -eg The Building Code of Australia. (Correct?)
Correctamundo.


Of course, there are elements of the Code which bloody well should pass into statute. There are elements the transgression of which constitute crimes of absolute strict liability(!)
You will get no argument from this correspondent.

Col

Glenn_M
25th July 2006, 10:11 AM
Brilliant piece of work by all involved.

I think this should be given serious consideration as an amendment to the Consititution. However I feel John H may fail the Blokeness Quotient test and block the required referendum.

It shall however be passed into Law within the confines of my shed.

Cheers.

Driver
25th July 2006, 04:50 PM
Here's an attempt at a front cover, using Andy Mac's excellent drawing and the UBeaut BB logo.

I have no pretensions to be a graphic designer so if someone can come up with a better design, please go ahead.

Col

Auld Bassoon
25th July 2006, 05:09 PM
Here's an attempt at a front cover, using Andy Mac's excellent drawing and the UBeaut BB logo.

I have no pretensions to be a graphic designer so if someone can come up with a better design, please go ahead.

Col

Hi Col,

I think that's almost right, but somehow IMHO it doesn't quite gel with the ethos of the code. So here's one
http://www.jeffgreefwoodworking.com/pnc/PlusJeBois.GIF

Or the attached, courtesy cartoon workshop

craigb
25th July 2006, 06:25 PM
FWIW I tend to agree with Ashore in that it should have an "official" look to it.

Some sort of logo like government departments spend squillions on would be the go I reckon. Except of course we don't have squillions. :o

Anyway, just my $0.05 worth.

Carry on.

Driver
25th July 2006, 06:39 PM
Some sort of logo like government departments spend squillions on would be the go I reckon. Except of course we don't have squillions. :o

Anyway, just my $0.05 worth.

Carry on.


Mate! You can't leave it there. Now you've got to have a go at a $0.05 logo. Show us your prowess!

Driver
25th July 2006, 07:13 PM
Hi Col,

I think that's almost right, but somehow IMHO it doesn't quite gel with the ethos of the code. So here's one


Steve

Mate - we can't have a picture of a fellow (and he is definitely a fellow - not a bloke!) in tights - sitting on a barrel of French p1ss on the front of the Code. The Code violations embraced by that picture are almost beyond description but let's start with the floppy bloody beret! I mean, hell's bells, man!

And what about the message on the end of the barrel - who the hell is going to believe that a Frog sings better when he's full? They're bad enough sober (at least I think Splasher Distel was sober when he sang (?).

Listen, you can only trade on the brownie points from that flash smoothing plane for a certain amount of time, y'know!

Col

Auld Bassoon
25th July 2006, 07:32 PM
Steve

Listen, you can only trade on the brownie points from that flash smoothing plane for a certain amount of time, y'know!

Col

What else are brownie points for then? :D :D

Waldo
25th July 2006, 07:43 PM
G'day Driver,

A logo for the Code of Practice, well that's right up my alley which happens to be part of my profession. So, if you're willing to wait a week for me to get an idea/s nutted out, I'd be very willing to contribure. :)

Driver
25th July 2006, 07:52 PM
G'day Driver,

A logo for the Code of Practice, well that's right up my alley which happens to be part of my profession. So, if you're willing to wait a week for me to get an idea/s nutted out, I'd be very willing to contribure. :)

Great! Thanks Waldo.

If you can find a way to incorporate Andy Mac's shed picture into a cover design that would be excellent. Take all the time you need.

Col

Waldo
25th July 2006, 07:56 PM
G'day Driver,

No problems. Andy Mac could you email to me the scan? Doesn't matter how big a file it is.

Skew ChiDAMN!!
25th July 2006, 08:53 PM
There's two things about Andy Mac's picture that niggle at me...

He's using a draw-horse, right? So where's the shavings? :eek: Going on the cover of THE code, I assume this is a "representative" shed? OK... but where's his copy of the Code hangin' on the wall?

:p :D

craigb
25th July 2006, 09:34 PM
Mate! You can't leave it there. Now you've got to have a go at a $0.05 logo. Show us your prowess!

Mate if I did it it'd be worth less than $0.05, believe me!

Much better idea to let Waldo do it.

What I reckon we need is a stylised shed incorporated in the logo.

After all, what is a shed in elevation? Two uprights and a roof right?

Now just snazzy up the basic concept up and Bob's your mother's brother. :D