has the forum become disreputable? [Archive]

doug the slug

9th June 2006, 09:21 PM

Well from where i am sitting, it seems the forum has become very disreputable. The reputation system is a very neglected forum tool since it was revamped some time ago.

now please understand that i fully supported the revamp of the rep system as in its previous incarnation it had become unfair, for want of a better word.

When it was revamped, I was hoping that it would be adopted once again by teh members as a one-click method of saying "yes i like that" or "no i dont" to their opinions, as it had been a year ago when i first joined, in a spirit of fun and not taken too seriously.

it all went pear-shaped when some of us got enough hitting power to wipe out the small players in one hit. those days are over, everyone. its all about seeing someone giving you a little pat on the back, always nice to openthe user cp and seeing another greenie there, its not about climbing ladders.

I know a few of us are still sending out heaps of greenies, jools and i are, but they seem to be a rare commodity compared to what they used to be.

So lets see some movement once again in the reputation stakes http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gif

Christopha

9th June 2006, 09:55 PM

Doug. maaaate.... whats yer point here?
Hic!

doug the slug

9th June 2006, 10:03 PM

Doug. maaaate.... whats yer point here?
Hic!

nothing serious, stoppers, just observing that not that long ago, people were using the rep system to be nice to each other and hoping we can start doing it again. Im sure you like to open your user cp and find a greenie or two in there letting you know that your contribution has been worthwhile and is appreciated. i know i find it a great feeling. i havenever made a post with the intention of earning a greenie but its a pleasant surprise when you get one, and it makes the day so much better

dazzler

9th June 2006, 10:39 PM

I think the rot set in when all the

BOUNCING

Sta- sta- sta- started

:D

ubeaut

10th June 2006, 08:56 AM

Neil

10th June 2006, 09:00 AM

Yep........ And I taketh away.

All in the name if fair play for everyone. http://www.ubeaut.biz/mhihi.gif

Termite

10th June 2006, 09:10 AM

Yep........ And I taketh away.

All in the name if fair play for everyone. http://www.ubeaut.biz/mhihi.gif
Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde strike again. :D

Rowan

10th June 2006, 09:41 AM

Think you'll find it was only a small minority who gave points, matter of fact, it's only a very small minority who even know what they are and how to use them. Most come here for the woodwork and not the points.

Must say I agree totally. I only come here for the information that a group of wonderful individuals share so readily. The fact that there are a couple of tossers here and there just makes it more like reality. I have learnt who's opinions to value and who's to ignore and who's to read and laugh at all by myself without the aid of greenies!!! ;) And I didnt even know I could go into my user CP to see comments. :eek:

CameronPotter

10th June 2006, 02:53 PM

I agree with Doug in that it is nice to see them. I send them frequently and I do check from time to time to see if I have got any. I don't take it seriously, but it is a nice thing side interest. However, I know that I give far more than I receive (maybe that is saying something :D :cool: ).

However, I doubt you will see much "movement" in the reps at the top end as the rep points are all very high, but the amount that are awarded since the latest revamp are much smaller, thus you don't see movement at the top end much at all.

Mind you, that shouldn't really matter if you just like to see them as someone saying thanks for taking part. :D

I don't see the rep system as adding a lot to the forums, but I do think that it adds something small extra quirk or interest (for me at least).

As for Jekyll and Hyde up above, the company man advertises, the individual tells you what he thinks. :p :D ;)

Cam

DanP

10th June 2006, 03:14 PM

doug the slug

10th June 2006, 04:20 PM

Mind you, that shouldn't really matter if you just like to see them as someone saying thanks for taking part. :D

thats right cameron, i see them as just a little something to show that your efforts are appreciated, and it means something that someone takes the time to say so. its like sending a little card or someone giving you a sixpack for letting them use your thickneser for half an hour. its just a little token of appreciation that is always well received. :) :) :)

Oh, nearly forgot.... Dan, those female tactics dont work on me:D :D

CameronPotter

10th June 2006, 05:41 PM

:D ...And anyway apparently this thread remind midge that he owed me one! ;)

Thanks Midge.

But seriously, I agree entirely. it is just like a little card saying, "nice work/post/input, mate."

Cam

Sturdee

11th June 2006, 03:34 PM

:
But seriously, I agree entirely. it is just like a little card saying, "nice work/post/input, mate."

Cam

So do I, but every time I go to give a greenie the computer won't let me and I won't give out greenies willy nilly just to get over the 20 greenies hurdle.

I think the increase to 20 before being able to give again was a mistake and is stopping the giving of a quick note or comment on a good post.

Peter.

Iain

11th June 2006, 05:47 PM

Just as well Bob Brown is not on this board, but it doesn't really matter as he has more greenies than the rest of us put together:rolleyes:

Skew ChiDAMN!!

11th June 2006, 07:09 PM

What do you mean BECOME disreputable? :confused: :rolleyes:

I'm still giving out greenies, but nowhere near as many as before. The system simply won't let me. :( I'll send the odd "joke" greeny out, but most of mine have been for posts that have merit.

Is it my fault that it always seem to be the same people who're making worthwhile contributions? And that there's less than 20 of 'em? So... with the new, "improved" (HISS! BOO! :mad: ) limits I have to send out gratuitous greenies just so I can send to the ones that merit 'em. As that goes against the grain, I'm rapidly running up a heap of IOUs instead.

For example, I still can't fire one your way... and how long ago was the last?

Stuart

11th June 2006, 07:10 PM

So do I, but every time I go to give a greenie the computer won't let me and I won't give out greenies willy nilly just to get over the 20 greenies hurdle.

I think the increase to 20 before being able to give again was a mistake and is stopping the giving of a quick note or comment on a good post.

Peter.

I get frustrated by the same thing - if a person is making numerous valuable posts, perhaps they deserve the greenies. I know the limit is in place to stop abuse of the system - some people always ruin it for the rest of us.

Here, have another virtual greenie.

doug the slug

11th June 2006, 07:30 PM

For example, I still can't fire one your way... and how long ago was the last?

I just looked it up Skew, the last greenie you sent me was on 2 may, nearly 6 weeks ago. and now that several people have mentioned it, I too have tried to send probably 3 times as many greenies as the system will let me under the revised rules. I dont think i should be forced to lower the standard i believe deserves a greenie in order to reward more often those who regularly make exemplary posts.

Auld Bassoon

11th June 2006, 07:35 PM

:D :D :D LoL Neil!

Skew ChiDAMN!!

11th June 2006, 07:36 PM

ozwinner

11th June 2006, 07:38 PM

"Oh. Another stocking filler" :(

Come on, youd be happy to be a stocking stuffer.

Al :p :eek:

doug the slug

11th June 2006, 07:54 PM

Exactly.

And by the same token, I think it's devalued the greeny. I've looked at the ones I've recieved recently and I can't help but wonder how many of 'em were only given so the sender could fire one at a more deserving post?

Instead of being pleased at finding a new green pressie in my CP I'm beginning to feel more like "Oh. Another stocking filler" :(

yes ive wondered the same, but then i look at the reddies ive been sent from this thread, and i wonder if they, too are just so they can send greenies to someone else. reddies and greenies count equally in your 20. i contemplated increasing the reddies i send out but i would rather save them for really deserving cases. sometimes i send a green in response to a red, just to show the red-giver that im just a nice guy. but i had better add quickly, before everyone sends me a red, that im even more likely to send a green in response to a green. :D :D :D

Tikki

12th June 2006, 04:25 PM

ozwinner

12th June 2006, 04:28 PM

You're lucky to have green dots Doug! Lots of disabled reputations on here today ... either the system has the collywobbles or we have a whole batch of new mods :confused: (Al had a full bank of greens earlier, now back to disabled)

I turned mine off.

I think the whole Rep point thing is getting out of hand.
They were put here for fun, and I feel the fun has gone from them.

Al :)

Tikki

12th June 2006, 04:57 PM

I turned mine off.

Al :)

They must have turned theirs off too ... thanks for the explanation.

Cheers
Tikki :)

RufflyRustic

12th June 2006, 06:37 PM

Auld Bassoon

12th June 2006, 06:44 PM

They must have turned theirs off too ... thanks for the explanation.

Cheers
Tikki :)

I didn't turn mine off, but something (or someone :eek: ) did:rolleyes: .

This doesn't bother me as all the meaningful rep lies with the forumites based on what one posts - good, bad or indifferent.

Wood Butcher

12th June 2006, 07:00 PM

One of the reasons that the rep limit was put to 20 posts was to limit "stacking" of rep point. We know it is still going on and we know who but it has decreased a bit.

I don't always like Neils decisions here but he pays the bills to allow me to be able to be here so any decision that he makes I respect and I don't whinge about it!!!

NewLou

12th June 2006, 07:02 PM

I don't usually bother getting involved in these kind a threads anymore but when I feel strongly enough I chuck in my 2C worth

All I can say is to those that wanted things changed WELL DONE!!!!! You *@&&@#$)@& it for the rest of us that actually enjoyed the old system (I for one used to)

The new system Sucks with a Capitol S and now the whole Rep system is under threat of becoming a meaningless waste of time. I just hope sanity prevails n the powers that be go back to the old ways of doing things.

For those of you that want to mess around with what is and what already works get yourselves to the Shed for some well earned R&R and focus on what the forums about .................things to do with Woodworking

Let Neil n worry about how the forum works they do a great Job ....................stop meddling!!!!

BAH!!!

:mad::mad::mad:

ubeaut

12th June 2006, 08:38 PM

Auld Bassoon - I just turned your rep points back on for you. They weren't touched by myself or any of the mods. Must have been inadvertently done by you, either that or there's an awfully coincidental gremlin in the works.

Here is the simple answer to all the bull dust about the rep points:

We put everyone back to square one. All will have the same amount of points and each will be allowed to submit points to anyone they please for the quality of their post. However only 1 point will be able to be doled out at a time.

Preferably with comments like: "good post", "nice work", excellent answer", "thank you", "off subject", "hijacker", "spamer go away" etc. etc.

Not comments like this one - http://www.ubeaut.biz/nono.gif "cos u is a wonderful person and have a very sexy bum 2 " http://www.ubeaut.biz/fie.gif NO NO NO....

Any genuine comments about the answer to the problem would be appreciated.

DON'T WANT any comments about the sexy bum bit.

Cheers - Neil :)
.

Two-Words

12th June 2006, 08:50 PM

"good post", "nice work", excellent answer", "thank you", "off subject",
.

two words :D

outback

12th June 2006, 08:54 PM

but I do have a sexy bum. :D

Two-Words

12th June 2006, 08:55 PM

but I do have a sexy bum. :D
of course ! ;)

Bodgy

12th June 2006, 09:03 PM

Not comments like this one - http://www.ubeaut.biz/nono.gif "cos u is a wonderful person and have a very sexy bum 2 " http://www.ubeaut.biz/fie.gif NO NO NO....

DON'T WANT any comments about the sexy bum bit.

Cheers - Neil :)
.

You may not want comments, but inevitably they will come.

Who has a sexy bum? Ruffy? Maybe, The lady with the big pink type? Perhaps.

Excepting these (and a few I've probably missed - sorry girls) this forum seems to be a sexy bum desert. A sexy bum free zone.

Personally I'd rather dwell on how we can get some more sexy bums than on how we distribute and rate little green red or green thingos.

This is meant to be about woodwork and other DIY type stuff, isn't it?

Neil - before you get too piszed with my temerity, remember I AM A CUSTOMER!!! Luv the wax and Shellac, saving up for the swansdown and Hard Shellac.

ozwinner

12th June 2006, 09:08 PM

Who has a sexy bum? Ruffy? Maybe, The lady with the big pink type? Perhaps.

.

Sorry to burst ya bubble, but that was sent to me from Grunt.

Al :o :o

Bodgy

12th June 2006, 09:16 PM

OZ

Are you telling me Grunt types in Times Roman, 25 pt, shocking pink font?

You wish!!!

Two-Words

12th June 2006, 09:26 PM

Sorry to burst ya bubble, but that was sent to me from Grunt.

Al :o :o

he's wrong !! ;)

BobL

12th June 2006, 09:40 PM

. . . . .

DON'T WANT any comments about the sexy bum bit.

Cheers - Neil :)
.

As I am commonly referred to as "lard #### (means bum but starts with 'a')", if it helps you can send all those sexy bum comments/greenies to me - I won't be offended, honest.

doug the slug

12th June 2006, 09:43 PM

I only give greenies when I want to let someone know how much I like or agree with what I read, or as encouragement for stepping out and trying something new or difficult.

Sorry Doug, nothing personal, you are not the only one, but I haven't come across a post of yours recently that I think deserves a greenie, yet ... but you never know what the future will bring.

cheers
Wendy

Hey Wendy,

I have no problem with that at all. they are your greenies and you give them to whomever you wish, for whatever you wish, except for sexy bums, apparrently.

this was not a greenie gathering exercise on my part. I was just wondering why there were fewer of them going round, and reminding people how nice it is to give and receive a little appreciation now and again. I just thought it makes the forum a pleasanter place to be.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

Studley 2436

12th June 2006, 10:15 PM

I agree with Doug. I need some loving give me some of the green buggy things. It really is nice when someone thinks enough of you to give you one. Really brightens me up too.

Considering I got about two for each of my last two projects ( a letterbox and a bookcase with sliding bifold doors) I could use some

Studley

doug the slug

12th June 2006, 10:23 PM

This is just a shifty grab for more greenies so that you can get above me on the list isn't it Doug?

Well, it worked. Are you happy now. Don't expect me to speak to you ever again. Fine.

Dan (getting in touch with my feminine side)

actually, Dan, I'm sorry you see it that way so have a greenie on me, it will probably put you back in front of me but who cares :p :p :p

Groggy

12th June 2006, 10:35 PM

It really is nice when someone thinks enough of you to give you one. Really brightens me up too.We are still talking about greenies, right?:o

BobL

12th June 2006, 10:45 PM

We are still talking about greenies, right?:o

Maybe if doug puts on a green leotard he can get one.

ubeaut

13th June 2006, 01:20 AM

Strewth - Talk about a red rag to a bull. Come in spinners.

Now the $6,000,000 question..... Who is it that said in their comment, "cos u is a wonderful person and have a very sexy bum 2http://www.ubeaut.biz/bum.gif ", and who was it said to?

I know but I aint tellin'. http://www.ubeaut.biz/smarty.gif

Neil http://www.ubeaut.biz/mhihi.gif
.

DanP

13th June 2006, 10:44 AM

May as well get the obvious but most likely incorrect out the way first:

Jools and the Slimy Slug...

Felder

13th June 2006, 11:10 AM

Who is it that said in their comment, "cos u is a wonderful person and have a very sexy bum 2", and who was it said to?
.

Neil to Ubeaut?
:p

doug the slug

13th June 2006, 02:39 PM

May as well get the obvious but most likely incorrect out the way first:

Jools and the Slimy Slug...

DAN!!!! how could you say such a thing!!! and just after i gave you a greenie too :( :(

(lucky i gave it to you yesterday cos today it would only be worth one point)

Skew ChiDAMN!!

13th June 2006, 04:07 PM

I knew I should've exercised my reddie power while it still meant something. :rolleyes:

Studley 2436

13th June 2006, 04:13 PM

doesn't our greenie count for anything anymore?

Studley

Stuart

13th June 2006, 04:27 PM

Sure they do - the person receiving them sees you valued their post enough to commend them on it. And you don't have to spread false ones around to be able to give out the occasional justified one. When you feel like giving someone a pat on the back (or a kick in the goolies), give em a greenie (or a reddie).

There is no point doing it for people with black (ie disabled) rep points - they have chosen not to participate, and won't see what you have given them anyway.

doug the slug

13th June 2006, 10:03 PM

doesn't our greenie count for anything anymore?

Studley

Studley, to me your greenie will still be as valuable as ever, a personal message saying well done. I was giving and receiving them for 6 months or more after i found out about them, before i discovered the order of merit. I always just thought they were harmless little messages :confused: :confused: :confused:

Studley 2436

14th June 2006, 10:59 AM

There is an order of merit?

There was a thing a while ago about the rep system and whether to keep it or not. I thought it was fine. On the Bulletin Board I host it actually shows your points.

The points system for me was a real attraction. It was so neat to see my moniker change too as I made more posts and it was really nice to get rep from people. Everyone likes a pat on the back. Personally I wouldn't have changed a thing. There are always people who moan about things and presure the admins to change things but I think the people that matter don't care that much.

Studley

Felder

12th July 2006, 04:09 PM

Now the $6,000,000 question..... Who is it that said in their comment, "cos u is a wonderful person and have a very sexy bum 2http://www.ubeaut.biz/bum.gif ", and who was it said to?
.

Sorry to drag a thread that hasn't been touched for the past four weeks back into the 'New Posts' section (not really :p ), but was the answer to the $6,000,000 question ever revealed??