39 posts leads the reputation! Ozwinner dethroned!

[Groggy]

Hmmm, "cyc" has 39 posts and tops the pile of reputation leaders. Followed by Neil, , Shane, UBeaut Administrator then Ozwinner, midge, Gumby etc.

The puce ring has been busted! Something strange is going on in Repland.

[Termite]

Oh well, whats the point of having a bit of power if you can't abuse it.:rolleyes:

[Gumby]

We've been had !!! :eek:

You know what giving yourself greenies equates to don't you.
Hint: It can make you go blind. :D :D

[Ashore]

Me thinks administrators are not playing by their own rules



"Reputation should be given to people who post meaningful, helpful, and thoughtful posts. Any post that contributes to the thread in a positive way probably deserves positive reputation. This does not necessarily have to mean that you agree with what was said; the point brought up may be completely opposite to what you believe, but it may be a good point nonetheless, and worthy of a pat on the back. Giving positive reputation to someone because they are your friend and deserve to have a few more green dots next to their name isn't a good reason to give positive reputation.
Administrators and moderators, give 20 points per hit. Administrators also have the power to give as many points as they like for any posts that warrant an extra bonus."

But like termite says what's power if you don't use it once in a while:D :D


( Note to self , be nice to the administrators , the new "Deep Purple People" )

[outback]

Does this make a one eyed, one horned, flying purple people eater? :D

[RETIRED]

Most of you asked for the rep points to be altered. Neil is obliging you.:D AND if you look mine has been disabled at the moment.

[Gumby]

I notice Al has been disabled as well. That only leaves BM above me. How much do you want to disable him too :D :D (Cheque OK ?)

[Auld Bassoon]

Most of you asked for the rep points to be altered. Neil is obliging you.:D AND if you look mine has been disabled at the moment.

G'day !

Is there somehwere on the site where the old/new rep rules are published?

Although not much exercised by the rep. thing, it would be nice to know how they are calculated.

[Termite]

Most of you asked for the rep points to be altered. Neil is obliging you.:D AND if you look mine has been disabled at the moment.
the disabled axe wielder, are you going to join me on the pension? :D :D

[ozwinner]

I have no problem being disabled in the rep stakes.

I was just today at work thinking I will do it when I get home, and bugger me its done. :eek:

Which got me thinking, did I do it, or think about doing it?
Or did I think about thinking Id done it? http://www.ubeaut.biz/tearjerk.gif http://www.ubeaut.biz/toothless.gif

Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/help.gif

[Ashore]

G'day !

Is there somehwere on the site where the old/new rep rules are published?

Although not much exercised by the rep. thing, it would be nice to know how they are calculated.

Top of the page under the hat go to FAQ then follow link to reputations

Basic 1hit point for every 30 days on the forum
1 Hit point for every 100 rep points
1 Hit point for every 50 posts

Rgds

[echnidna]

The King is dead
Long live the King:)

[ozwinner]

The King is dead
Long live the King:)

Long live King Grumpy.

Al :p

[echnidna]

Long live King Grumpy.

Al :p

So does that mean Grunt is the official Court Fool? :D

[ozwinner]

So does that mean Grunt is the official Court Fool? :D

You mean he wasnt??

Al :p

[Shedhand]

It may as well all be swahili to me. :confused: I can't fathom why the rep system is needed, don't know what it means, can't work out why I have over 10,000 points, can't understand why, as a newish member of less than 6 months standing, that I rank so high at 38 or something (despite my less than auspicious start). I've read the FAQ's but still can't grasp it. Must be a Tasmanian thing. :D (got in before you big island buggers with that last comment).

[JDarvall]

It may as well all be swahili to me. :confused: I can't fathom why the rep system is needed, don't know what it means, can't work out why I have over 10,000 points, can't understand why, as a newish member of less than 6 months standing, that I rank so high at 38 or something (despite my less than auspicious start). I've read the FAQ's but still can't grasp it. Must be a Tasmanian thing. :D (got in before you big island buggers with that last comment).

It ant a Tasmanian thing, I reakon, mate. I agree with you entirely. I still don't even have a clue what any of it means either.

If some blokes got more reputation than me, does that mean I should treat him differently ? .....if not, then, what do I do with it then ?

Is it a ranking system. Uno, guys with higher reputation are mean't to be agreed with more than those with lower ? .....Cause, that doesn't fit? There'd be plenty of new guys to this forum with loads more experience in certain feilds than old members.

[ubeaut]

cyc doesn't lead the way twas a stuff up by me whilst redoing the Rep Point System. However he is high on the list and rightly so. His posts and expertise has kept these forums up and running through some major problems and has earned him much adulation and rep points.

Hopefully what I have spent most of today messing with may settle down some of the childish rubbish that has been seen over the last little while and go some way toward ending the flaming of newbies and the stacking of greens onto friends and family, etc. And don't deny it happens because the admin can see who gives who points and all the comments left. Not that we are interested. No one has bothered until recently when the children started crying.

Here is a synopsis of the new rep stuff

Default Reputation: all newbies will start with 250 rep points Unchanged

Every 30 days, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Unchanged

Every 100 posts, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Used to be 50

For every 1000 points of reputation, users gain 1 point of reputation-altering power. Used to be 100

A user now only has to make 1 post before his reputation hits count on others? (This is so they can hit back if flamed as has happened in the past.) Used to be 50.

User must have at least 1 reputation point for his reputation hits to count on others? Used to be 50

A user can no longer give more than 10 reputation clicks in any 24 hour period? Used to be 20

A user must now give 20 different users reputation before he/she can hit the same person again? Used to be 10

All Admin will now give and take 200 points at a time. Used to be 10 then went to 20 then same as other members which meant we had less rep power than many of the members

Moderators, (except for Oz) will give and take around 100 Al is still the user with the most rep points and for now will hand out in lots of around 150. (a drop of over 70% from before)

Moderators and Admins will only hand out rep points in accordance to the rules Using them for what they were intended and in the way intended. Would be nice if all members would do the same, but that is about as likely as me seeing world peace in my lifetime. Human nature being what it is, it just ain't gunna happen.

Most members don't realise that "Have a greenie" or "Have sent you a red" could actually be as many as 400 rep points. This can wipe out a newbie in one hit. Because of this all will have a drop in the points they send to people of at least 50% and up to 75% or even more depending on how long you have been a member.

Some of you will still be sending out 100 or more points in one hit. Use them wisely. Give them the way they were intended CLICK HERE (http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/faq.php?faq=new_faq_item#faq_rep_13) and help the forums to grow.

Cheers - Neil :)

PS To stop the sniping and innuendo the rep points for admin and mods have been turned off. We don't load our own points like some of you do and even if we did we would have well and truly earned the bloody things, to anyone who honestly believes we don't earn every point we have I say............. NOTHING! You just aren't worth it.

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Most members don't realise that "Have a greenie" or "Have sent you a red" could actually be as many as 400 rep points. This can wipe out a newbie in one hit. Because of this all will have a drop in the points they send to people of at least 50% and up to 75% or even more depending on how long you have been a member.

Any chance of a mod to the User CP to display our actual hitting power as well as our own rep points? People'd be more aware of just how much their reddies can hurt if they didn't have to settle down with pen, paper & calculator to work it out...

Just worked mine out both ways. A drop of around 80%! :eek: I knew I should've slung some reddies at the purple circle while they counted... if I could work out who really thought they were out thereby were actually in, that is. ;)

[ozwinner]

Any chance of a mod to the User CP to display our actual hitting power as well as our own rep points? People'd be more aware of just how much their reddies can hurt if they didn't have to settle down with pen, paper & calculator to work it out...

200/2 x the power of Pi, minus the square root of a tree..........
Erhhhhhhmmmmm 7.3?

Al :confused:

[ss_11000]

200/2 x the power of Pi, minus the square root of a tree..........
Erhhhhhhmmmmm 7.3?

Al :confused:

i didn't no u taught maths:p :D

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

i didn't no u taught maths:p :D

Algebra 101 & Irrational numbers.

[ubeaut]

Skew - Right now yours are worth 37 points per hit yesterday 150

Al - Yesterday 560, today 150

Stirlo - Yesterday 75 today 15

[Cliff Rogers]

So that puts me somewhere between 37 & 150... better get busy Stirlo. ;)

[ubeaut]

Clif - yesterday 265 today 88

[Grunt]

Watch out for the Cliiiiifff

[Rocker]

Pardon my ignorance/stupidity, but how do you find out how many points (as opposed to green/red marks) other people have? I ask out of idle curiosity, since I have never participated - it seems to me that the rep points system is a distraction from the main point of the BB, to share woodworking information.

Rocker

[JDarvall]

This may annoy Neil, but,,,,,,,the question for me still exists....

What does this whole rep system mean ? ..... I'd probably get into it, if uno, it was like a kinda frequent flyer system. Some kind of prize for being highly regarded.....I know, maybe you could give blokes complementry jars of Ubeaut wax every 5000 reputation points they gain. :D I could use a new jar soon too. :p ......

[DanP]

All that and I'm still 14th. :rolleyes:

[ozwinner]

i didn't no u taught maths:p :D

Mate I teach everything, Im no good at it, but I still keep telling ppl stuff.

Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/oldman.gif

[ozwinner]

Dan you are reading it all wrong, the member list is now upside down.http://www.ubeaut.biz/laughing.gif

Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/drop.gif

[outback]

i feel a little strung out now, I think I need a Bex and a little lay down. Do I still get the same laying power as I used to have?

[ozwinner]

i feel a little strung out now, I think I need a Bex and a little lay down. Do I still get the same laying power as I used to have?

http://www.ubeaut.biz/scared2.gif Dude!!

Thats a question only your lovers can answer.

Al http://www.ubeaut.biz/tearjerk.gif

[DanP]

How come Shane isn't disabled?

Does this mean you get the good parking spots?

Dan

[ss_11000]

Stirlo - Yesterday 75 today 15

thanx neil

now i dont have to give a greenie to my friend on here every so often to see how much my hits are worth ( dont worry, i've only done it twice ).

[Groggy]

This is like the 14th Feb 1966.

Are you going to have a fancy jingle? Will a pound of butter cost twice as much? Will aircraft run out of fuel faster? :o Enquiring minds need to know!

[ss_11000]

just clicked in my user cp and noticed all my greenies ( and reds - bad start ) were there, i counted and there were 39 or 40. is that meant to have changed?

just asking cos it wasn't in neils summary of what was changed

[eddie the eagle]

All Admin will now give and take 200 pints at a time.


Hi Neil,

It's normally me with the typo's in the inconvenient spots. This one gave me a chuckle.

I'll have 200 pints of Guinness thanks.
[edit: but if you want, you can take them back]

Hope that the kerfuffle with the reputation points settles down soon - I'm sure that you've more important things to do with your time.

Cheers,

eddie

[ubeaut]

Here is a brief and basically simple idea of what the rep points are supposed to be about:

1/ Give good rep (greenies) to people who participate with good posts that add to the interest or help of a thread.
Giving greenies is a way for members to show their appreciation, support, etc.

2/ Give bad rep (reds) to people who participate in a negative way or are abusive, etc. (Some may consider hijacking especially on a serious, informative and interesting thread to be worth giving reds.)
Giving reds is a way for members to show their displeasure at having a good thread ruined, or your disgust, revulsion at inappropriate or offencive comments, etc. (Often used to pull spammers and others into line).

The rep point system is not for giving bad rep to someone just because you don't like them or good rep to your mate or partner etc to boost their points. http://www.ubeaut.biz/nono.gif
It is about being fair and handing out a http://www.ubeaut.biz/approval.gif, a http://www.ubeaut.biz/claps.gif, a http://www.ubeaut.biz/bowdown.gif, or a http://www.ubeaut.biz/thumbdown.gif, http://www.ubeaut.biz/offtopic.gif, http://www.ubeaut.biz/spam3.gif, etc where and when deserved.

I tried to keep it simple.

Cheers - Neil :)

PS Rep points can be likened to Communism, if ever it was used correctly by all the people it could possibly create Utopia. But as I've said before; "Human nature being what it is, I ain't gunna hold my breath." http://www.ubeaut.biz/banghead.gif

PPS And before anyone jumps in..... No I'm not a commie, never have been and never will be.

[ubeaut]

Dan - Yes he is....... Well he is now. Oops.

Stirlo - Anything you have by way of rep will remain it is only the way it is dished out from yesterday that has changed.

Eddie - 200 pints of Guinness eh? "I'll ave arf." http://www.ubeaut.biz/tequila.gif
Trust me to have at least 1 typo. Pity there isn't a typo checker as well as a totally infallible spell chequer.

Cheers - Neil

[ubeaut]

Anyone who doesn't want to view or use their rep points can switch them off in their User CP.

It is not mandatory that you participate.

[doug the slug]

A user now only has to make 1 post before his reputation hits count on others? (This is so they can hit back if flamed as has happened in the past.) Used to be 50.



yeah but it will still be like a spitball hitting a battleship:D :D :D :D :D :D

[journeyman Mick]

...................- it seems to me that the rep points system is a distraction from the main point of the BB, to share woodworking information.

Rocker

that, and it's secondary point (or possibly more important one, for me at any rate ;) ) of a place one can unwind and share a laugh etc after the stresses of the day. I haven't participated in any of the "greenie" and "reddie" business, there seems to be an awful lot of bickering and unpleasantry attached to it, don't need that.

Mick

[Gumby]

Giving reds is a way for members to show their displeasure at having a good thread ruined, or your disgust, revulsion at inappropriate or offencive comments, etc. .

Which is exactly what I did in the first place :cool: and then copped a red for doing it :rolleyes:

The problem I see with users being able to hit after oinly one post is that the few who deserve to be run out of here (and some quite rightly have been) will be able to inflict some damage before they go. Including spammers.

For instance, remember Age20boat (or whatever he was called) and that other idiot going on about factories in the eastern suburbs being a plot ? I don't think it would have been good if they could have fired off some reds.

[Clinton1]

I have not posted for a while, and (against my better judgement) I'm gonna waste some of my time on this Rep points/Purple Circle rubbish.


GET OVER IT.

Carrying on about Rep points is starting to make some people look like gooses.

Ubeaut has had to get in and do some work on the system, effectively the 3 or so threads on rep points has meant that the man has had to waste his weekend time fixing something that is essentially infantile.
Gee, what a great use of the weekend time of one of the people that is responsible for the place we all use - lets see.... spend time with family, go fishing, do some work at my hobby, work on a points system on a web forum because little jimmy is getting all tied up in knots over the issue.... I know which option I'd choose.

Tomorrow I'm going to turn my rep points viewing option off, an option I wasn't aware of.

If anyone takes offence at me saying that your obsession on rep points is infantile then please give me a reddie before tomorrow morning when I switch them off.
I'd be interested in seeing who I should view as "a fragile little petal that is trying to bolster their ego through some sort of internet forum points system".

If the rep point system is pivotal to your sense of self worth maybe using a suction cup to stick a propeller to your forehead and painting little green dots on the ends of the prop blades might help out.

(Apologies for posting this under Gumby's last post - Gumby, or anyone else, should not see this post as aimed at the Plasticine man)

[doug the slug]

Carrying on about Rep points is starting to make some people look like gooses.

To a large extent i agree, Clinton (except the plural of "goose" is "geese")

The whole thing is irrelevant to woodwork. when i first discovered the system, after being here about a month, probably (OK im slow), it was a good system. if you liked someone's post it was the quickest and easiest way to send them a personal message, just click on the scales. and back then reddies didnt hurt much either cos nobody had anywhere near as much rep altering points as they did yesterday, or even for that matter since the changes.

regardless of the fact that it was the common consensus of the forum as a whole that people reached the levels they did, many felt tha t the system had become imbalanced, and from mmy lofty perch in the top 20 of the forum i have to say i agree. with something approaching 400 rep altering points at my command , it wasnt like the old days where you just click the scales and type a quick message. i remember it took me several months to get all teh green lights on back then, and now ive seen someone do that with just one post!

like it or not the rep system is part of the furniture in here and sometimes the furniture needs repairing and thats what the admin and moderators have taken on as their thankless jobs (Thanks ,Guys, doing a wonderful job as always). by all means Clinton, turn yours off, thats your right, but I for one am looking to see what effect teh changes have on the system and am hoping that it will once again be a useful tool on the forum.

Thanks Neil and your team for all the hard work and for listening to the concerns of the members.http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

[journeyman Mick]

Clinton,
very good post - especially liked the bit about the propellor on the forehead:D , I'd give you a greenie but I don't do greenies or reddies ;)

Mick

[echnidna]

Clinton,
very good post - especially liked the bit about the propellor on the forehead:D , I'd give you a greenie but I don't do greenies or reddies ;)

Mick

I dunno how to do them too Mick :D

[JDarvall]

For instance, remember Age20boat (or whatever he was called) and that other idiot going on about factories in the eastern suburbs being a plot ? I don't think it would have been good if they could have fired off some reds.

Yeh, I remember him. He was a real BASTARD !....:mad: ...and apparently I was him !.....:rolleyes: (I'm finally learning how to use this rolling eyes thing properly.....phew, took a while)

And remember that other prick ! Apricotreamer or whatever he was called.... He had a couple of practical jokes and you QUITE RIGHTLY rubbished the crap out of him !...glad HE'S gone too. He was a Bloody crude white trash redneck, if I'd ever seen one.

And remember that other guy....and that other guy, and the other guy ..........

[Shedhand]

Its so ho-hum.If I like someones comment/ contribution I'll say it publicly and send the fortunsate a PM. DIckheads I'll ignore. ;)
Stop wasting your precious time Neil. Nitwits will be nitwits whatever you do.:o
Cheers

[ubeaut]

This will be the last post from me in this thread about the rep points.

A newbie has but 250 points to begin with, this equates to 1 point of reputation he can hand out.

As Doug said "like a spitball hitting a battleship" What I have done will hopefully make it more equitable for all.

Gumby - (just using you as an example) Yesterday 1 negative hit from you (what you all call A RED) would have wiped a newbie of all his points and put him 150 into the red taking away his ability to respond (not that he could have as he had to 20 posts before he could hit back). Currently you give only 41 points and would have to give credit to 20 more posters over the following 48 hrs before giving another to him. This might hopefully act as a cooling down period and give the newbie time to explain or clarify their situation, etc. (Example ended)

Yes he could hit back with his almighty 1 point, but that is highly unlikely because for starters he wouldn't have a clue what the hell rep points are. Lets face it most of you took a while to figure it out, if at all. Many still don't use them or want to have anything to do with them as they are far more interested in the woodwork.

It appears on the whole, that members use the points as they were intended. However there have been numerous times when it has got a bit out of hand, with pathetic tit for tat school yard retaliations. Not really fair especially when some members could hand out over 500 positive or negative points in 1 hit.

Lets leave it to it's own devices and and see how the new points system works out. If anyone feels the need to hand out a heap of reds to a newbie who is posting spam or causing problems, or similar, how about reporting the post and letting admin or mods sort it out, if indeed it needs sorting out in the first place.

Cheers - Neil :)

[outback]

Or, we could get the big kids to go round and knock his vegemite sandwich out of his hand at little lunch. :D

[doug the slug]

Gumby - (just using you as an example) Yesterday 1 negative hit from you (what you all call A RED) would have wiped a newbie of all his points and put him 150 into the red taking away his ability to respond (not that he could have as he had to 20 posts before he could hit back). Currently you give only 41 points and would have to give credit to 20 more posters over the following 48 hrs before giving another to him. This might hopefully act as a cooling down period and give the newbie time to explain or clarify their situation, etc. (Example ended)

Yes he could hit back with his almighty 1 point, but that is highly unlikely because for starters he wouldn't have a clue what the hell rep points are. Lets face it most of you took a while to figure it out, if at all. Many still don't use them or want to have anything to do with them as they are far more interested in the woodwork.Cheers - Neil :)

Neil it looks like this is going to work, well done to all who participated in rewriting the rules. i agree that i and many others on the forum had too much hitting power before. when I started as i said before it was just a handy way to send a quick bit of feedback one way or the other, and we were all in the habit of using them. but it takes all the fun out of it when you realise the hitting power some people had. i come here for the woodwork and the cameraderie, enjoy the jokes to help me relax after a long day etc. i dont need the pressure of "what is this 400 point reddie going to do to this newbie?". 50 points is fine, now we are using 600 grit to take the rough edges off instead of 40. (funny how this is almost exactly the inverse of rep altering points :D hey its a woodworking forum maybe we should invert the scale and award gritpoints, nothing else to do next weekend , Neil?:D :D :D :D ). i wont stress over that, and anything that deserves more than that is the moderators job. I hope everyone gives it a fair go.:) :) :)

[Gumby]

Gumby - (just using you as an example) Yesterday 1 negative hit from you (what you all call A RED) would have wiped a newbie of all his points and put him 150 into the red taking away his ability to respond[I]

Yep, I remember those times, they were the good old days :D