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Ian007
14th April 2006, 04:23 PM
I read in todays Adelaide Advertiser,

that a bloke broke into a house thru the roof, while inside he took some of the home owners diabetes meds, thru up on himself,
so strips off and has a shower but collapses & dies soon after but while still starkers.

Home owner comes home after being away for a couple of days to find dead naked body in his house.
I wonder why the home owner would be a bit freaked out.

the crim was know to the police. (read drug addict/crim)

serves him right I reckon

What do you think?

Ian

Christopha
14th April 2006, 04:34 PM
Good riddance to a piece of schidte, I know someone probably loved him but unfortunately the rest of society (us) hate the bugger!

ozwinner
14th April 2006, 04:43 PM
Thats not very nice of either of you two!!

Where is the sympathy,

Orrwwh poor love never got a hug off his mummy when little.
OR
He was molested by a priest as a child.
OR
He cant help being a loser.
Or
Its not his fault.


Al :p

Groggy
14th April 2006, 05:20 PM
What do you think?Clever leaving the medication in plain sight, wasn't it?

(in an ironical sense that is)

ss_11000
14th April 2006, 05:25 PM
serves him right I reckon

What do you think?

Ian

....why on earth would u take someone elses prescribed medicine:confused:

goat
14th April 2006, 05:34 PM
makes you wonder why a diabetic would go away for a few days with out his life saving medication ? BS i think

ozwinner
14th April 2006, 05:37 PM
Maybe it was spare medication.

Al :)

Driver
14th April 2006, 05:45 PM
....why on earth would u take someone elses prescribed medicine:confused:

Stirlo

Keep asking simple, common sense questions like that and, with luck, you'll never be in the situation this idiot found himself in.

Bob38S
14th April 2006, 05:51 PM
Yep there really must be a God.
Bob

ss_11000
14th April 2006, 05:54 PM
Stirlo

Keep asking simple, common sense questions like that and, with luck, you'll never be in the situation this idiot found himself in.

thats my plan ( not to be in situations like that ):)

echnidna
14th April 2006, 06:00 PM
sorry for the house owner though

ozwinner
14th April 2006, 06:03 PM
sorry for the house owner though

Youd have to sell wouldnt you.

Al :eek:

Chesand
14th April 2006, 06:05 PM
Probably a good thing that he died - otherwise he would have sued the house owner for negligence by leaving the drugs within his reach

Ian007
14th April 2006, 06:10 PM
no thats up for his family to sue now.:eek:

echnidna
14th April 2006, 06:10 PM
Youd have to sell wouldnt you.

Al :eek:

Wouldn'n worry me at all Al.
A stiff is just dead meat!
But it would affect some people.

ozwinner
14th April 2006, 06:13 PM
Wouldn'n worry me at all Al.
A stiff is just dead meat!
.

Not the thing tell your new bride on wedding night.

Al :eek: :p

outback
14th April 2006, 08:08 PM
Not the thing tell your new bride on wedding night.

Al :eek: :p


You mean, "honey come into the bathroom, I had a real stiff in there the other day."

Sturdee
14th April 2006, 08:10 PM
Clever leaving the medication in plain sight, wasn't it?

(in an ironical sense that is)

As my wife is an insulin dependant diabetic we, like most people suffering from that awful illnes, leave the current lot of insulin pens out on the kitchen table as well as her other stuff that she needs. Often quick access to her meds is the difference between staying well and passing out.


makes you wonder why a diabetic would go away for a few days with out his life saving medication ? BS i think

Every diabetic that properly manages their condition has more than one lot of meds. My wife has one set at home, another set (including spare meter etc) in her handbag for when she goes out and a third set in my car just in case.

No BS but normal common sense.:mad:

What happened is quite possible as injecting yourself with insulin when not needed will cause a diabetic coma and can kill you. He probably thought that he found a new supply for his junk habit not realising it was insulin that he was injecting.

IMO this is not a subject to joke about, the life of a diabetic is extremely difficult. Managing the insulin needs of your body, which is never the same day to day notwithstanding that you may eat the same and do the same activities, with injecting it rather than have your body do it naturally is not funny.

Especially with the consequence that if it goes wrong you either become hyper (tired and listless which can go to a coma) or go into a diabetic coma. A number of times we have had to administer an injection for her to get out of a coma or take her to hospital for emergency treatment. Not a joking matter.:mad:


Peter.

graemet
14th April 2006, 10:40 PM
Orrwwh poor love never got a hug off his mummy when little.
OR
He was molested by a priest as a child.
OR
He cant help being a loser.
Or
Its not his fault.


Al :p
I didn't know you were a magistrate, Al.

Groggy
14th April 2006, 11:54 PM
As my wife is an insulin dependant diabetic we, like most people suffering from that awful illnes, leave the current lot of insulin pens out on the kitchen table as well as her other stuff that she needs. Often quick access to her meds is the difference between staying well and passing out. Peter, my comment was relating to the irony of the medication serving more than it's intended purpose. Dark humored perhaps but certainly not intended as a comment on the owners or their illness.

But as someone who has suffered the loss of a relative through drug crime, I really don't have much sympathy for the deceased.

ozwinner
15th April 2006, 09:10 AM
I didn't know you were a magistrate, Al.

Id be no good as a Magistrate, they would have to build more jails.
Maybe I could transport them to England?:p

Al :)

Sturdee
15th April 2006, 09:59 AM
Peter, my comment was relating to the irony of the medication serving more than it's intended purpose. Dark humored perhaps but certainly not intended as a comment on the owners or their illness.

But as someone who has suffered the loss of a relative through drug crime, I really don't have much sympathy for the deceased.

Groggy, I know it is not personal and more out of ignorance of how diabetes affects people but I failed to appreciate the dark humour or the irony. Maybe because I have lived for nearly 30 years with the effects of that dammed illness and as such I am rather touchy about the subject.

Like you I have no sympathy for the deceased, he got his just deserts, but there appeared to be implied criticism of the real victim in this story namely the diabetic householder who found the body in his house.

He, and his family, is already suffering a lifetime sentence of diabetes. It is indeed a life sentence as once you become an insulin diabetic you have it for life. There is no cure yet, only a way of managing the condition.

This management involves, in my wife's case, DAILY INSULIN INJECTIONS AT LEAST SEVEN TIMES and AT LEAST FIFTEEN TIMES A FINGER PRICK to obtain a drop of blood to test her blood sugar levels.

A normal day begins before breakfast with a blood sugar test, then calculate the carbo hydrates in her breakfast and factor in her current BSL and proposed activity and calculate the first insulin injection. If this is done correctly she lives like a non sufferer for about 2 hours when at morning tea time that is repeated. And again at lunch time, afternoon tea, dinner, supper and before bedtime.

If she miscalculates she will either get hyper, which has long term disastrous effects, or a hypo where she may pass out. This goes on day in day out with no let up for feastdays or holidays.

The family has to live with her dietary needs and the regulated lifestyle her treatment demands and learn how to step in when needed. My children from prep stage had to learn what to do if my wife became ill and there have been occasions when they had to administer a glucodin injection when they came home from school.

And then there are the times when she had to go to hospital for emergency treatment, the last was a week before Dougs and Jules Meet and Greet when suddenly that event looked like being thrown into turmoil, or the long terms effects of the desease. Like 2 years ago four eye operations ( 3 in one eye and 1 in the other ) to restore her eyesight with the possibility that if it went wrong she would permanent lose sight.

That is the reality of diabetes and there is no cure in sight, just the management which is painful to see on a daily basis. Most don't realise this as when you see a diabetic they are normal when they are managing their condition. The sad thing is that the decease is on the increase.

So I can fully relate to the householder when he found the criminal dead in his house, he now in addition to his diabetic life sentence has to cope with that as well. Definitely not a subject to joke about.

As we do the same, leave her meds including insulin pens (syringes fully loaded with insulin) on the kitchen table as she uses spare ones when she goes out, the same could happen to us if some junkie broke into our house. Not a joking matter.


Peter.

Groggy
15th April 2006, 10:07 AM
Peter, I apologise unreservedly for any offence I may have caused.

best regards.

Sturdee
15th April 2006, 10:15 AM
Thanks Greg,

Peter.

Wood Butcher
15th April 2006, 10:44 AM
Sturdee, I can undersstand where you are coming from. My sister is in the same boat as your wife. All of my family have undergone training and education on what to do in case.

In regards to the meds being left out. I am severely allergic to bee stings. It's one of the reasons that I am studying to get out of my current occupation (making beekeeping equipment). I have 5 Automatic Adrenalin injectors. 1 in each of the two cars, 2 at work, one in the shed and one next to the key rack in the kitchen. I've done this so if I need one the chance is really high that I can get one very quickly. I know from experience that I have roughly 60 seconds to get one before I can't move.
It is not a nice way to live. (says me sitting inside while SWMBO weeds the garden cause there a bees in the flowers:()