Any beer brewers down here?

[bat]

Tonight I brewed up another 5 gallons of Belgian Trippel. Next up is a Barley Wine. Anybody else here brew?

BTW, Fosters isn't really an Aussie favorite, is it? I didn't think it was very good the one time I tried it. Then again, most Americans think Budweiser tastes good. Damn seppos anyways.

What is a "seppo"? Is that slang for "Yankee"?

[masoth]

Homebrewing I do. And I'm finding difficulty because NOTHING really tasty comes from sawdust and shavings.
Mind telling where you are?
I live in Mildura Victoria, which can create brewing problems due to Summer heat, and Winter/Spring frost.
Foster's is ............ (insert whatever word of discust you like). The Foster's sold in UK is very different, and each place has favourites - see, I'm assuming you are not:
a. Australian; or
b. Don't live in Australia; or
c. Maybe both of the above.

soth

ps: How about I guess = Canada?

[Gumby]

Tonight I brewed up another 5 gallons of Belgian Trippel. Next up is a Barley Wine. Anybody else here brew?

?

Nah, we're too busy robbing banks, breaking into homes, stealing hand bags from old ladies, you know, all the stuff convicts usually get up to in their spare time. :rolleyes:

[bat]

Homebrewing I do. And I'm finding difficulty because NOTHING really tasty comes from sawdust and shavings.
Mind telling where you are?
I live in Mildura Victoria, which can create brewing problems due to Summer heat, and Winter/Spring frost.
Foster's is ............ (insert whatever word of discust you like). The Foster's sold in UK is very different, and each place has favourites - see, I'm assuming you are not:
a. Australian; or
b. Don't live in Australia; or
c. Maybe both of the above.

soth

ps: How about I guess = Canada?

Close, Western United States.

ETA: I think that the Fosters sold here is brewed in Canada.

What types of beer do you typically like to brew?

[Christopha]

Bat, welcome back mate, Seppos? they just don't quite get it right..... comes from rhyming slang. Yank.... Septic Tank.... usually just abreviated to Septic or for some Seppo..... simple see!
As for Beer? i don't brew it but am seriously thinking about it. Here in South Australia, Australias' best state, we drink the worlds best beer, it's called COOPERS Pale Ale..... wonderful stuff! Nectar! In fact I'm having one now! They also make a sparkling ale but no-one I know can actually afford to buy a slab of the stuff, even though it's bloody good. In Queensland they have XXXX but only the banana benders drink the stuff, they call it XXXX because they can't spell "Beer". In NSW they have Old and New..... both not too bad at all but not a patch on Coopers of course. In Victoria they make Foster, the Aussie beer that no self respecting Aussie will drink! They also make VB, which is an abbreviation for Vomit Brew..... disgusting filth only suitable for Victorians... In Tasmania they have..... who cares.... furriners the lot of 'em. As for WA, well once again ..... who really cares, they live in an alternate universe anyway.;)

[bitingmidge]

Who cares?

Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine!
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:p :p :p

[ozwinner]

Here in South Australia, Australias' best state, we drink the worlds best beer, it's called COOPERS Pale Ale..... wonderful stuff! Nectar!

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Mate, you have the best sense of humour...............Coopers.........................http://www.ubeaut.biz/hehehe.gif

Al :p

[ozwinner]

Who cares?

Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine!
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:p :p :p

You didnt say that last time we met..

Al :confused:

[Gra]

I will put my hand up. but I only brew ginger beer. have only done two brews so far. First one was non alcoholic (easier for a first try). the second was alcoholic, drinking one now.:D

Dont actually drink normal beer, but SHMBO does, so might have to brew her up a dark (She is a guiness fan)

Biting... Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine!...
Well that makes me safe :D:D

As for fosters, I dont know anyone who actually drinks that stuff, it just just the !@#$ we offload to you foreigners;)

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Years ago I used to keep two vats running continuously, building up stocks for the local New Years' Day shindig. Until one hot summers' day co-incided with a couple of bottles on the bottom of my stack having a wee tad too much sugar. Like, we're talking a couple of gross long-necks here. :( Not only did it break my heart (not to mention damage ny hearing; SWMBO was not happy) and ruin my New Year's... it was a month or so before the smell disappeared outta the woodwork and we never did get rid of the stains. The smell persisted long enough to cure me of zymurgy. :o

But among my better brews were a chocolate beer (seriously!) and a lemon beer. The chocolate beer was like a good, aged scotch. Smooth on the palate, a full, round flavour and a kick like a mule. But after a bottle or two one soon realised why we call the WC a thunderbox. :rolleyes:

[Farm boy]

hi bat
if you like a chalenge try making some wine
it is easy as beer and better for you:rolleyes:
i am buying 400kg of grapes in a few weeks :D squash in a bucket and pour in a wooden keg grapes skin and all leave for 6 to 8 weeks and you have a lovely drop to enjoy.
cheers
greg

[Grunt]

Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine!
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That just set back Alcoholics Anonymous back 20 years.

I've brewed a lot of beer over the years.

IMO a lot of water is wasted when they make Fosters. The best beer in Australia is James Squire Pilsener. Most of the big brewerys in Australia brew crap. The same as the US. Budweiser has great ads but crap beer. Not only is a Bud a waste of water but a waste of bubbles.

You'd like Coopers if you like home brew. It's basically mass (fairly small scale) produced home brew. I used to drink a lot of it but it's a little bit high in alcohol for me at 6.9%. Just a tad sweet for me.

[Glenn_M]

Yep, I'll put my hand up too. Been brewing beer for about 8 years now. Mostly beer (Belgian Ales or German Lagers the faves), also dabbled in mead, cyser, cider and wine (inc fruit).

Nothing beats coming home from work on a hot day and tapping the fresh keg of Belgian Wit beer waiting on the back deck.....

Hmmmm getting thirsty now.....gotta go...

Cheers

[journeyman Mick]

I don't need to brew, my next door neighbour is a serious home brewer, has a fridge with 6 kegs in it and 3 taps on it:D - unfortunately die to allergies I only have a beer on rare occasions.:( Skew, any chance of your secret chocolate beer recipe?:)

Mick

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Skew, any chance of your secret chocolate beer recipe?:)

I used to run a fidonet BBS and Zymurgy was one of the forums, that's where I dredged up the recipe in the first place... I'll have to fire up the ol' Amiga and see if I can remember how to find it. :o

[journeyman Mick]

Ummm,
thanks Skew, I think. I believe I get the general gist of your post :o

Mick

[Ian007]

Zymurgy

chemistry of fermentation in brewing: the scientific study of the process of fermentation in brewing and distilling

[Spelunx]

Hands up for home brewing!

I have been at it for five years now.... mostly Coopers brew kits, with the occasional 'special' chucked in. I have been doing lot's of Ginger beer lately, basically it's improving a kit by adding extra ginger, lemon, nutmeg and stuff. Tastes awesome, especially after a hot summer's day.

[Skew ChiDAMN!!]

Sorry. One becomes so familiar with some things they forget they're not general knowledge. :o

Fidonet was the main pre-WWW network (when 'twas barely Usenet), where you rang direct to a local BBS... which later that night would ring a BBS further down the line and pass on/collect mail & files. Then that BBS would ring further down the line... It could sometimes take a week for a post to reach the other side of the world and another for the reply to come back. Ahhh.... those were the days. :rolleyes:

And Ian's already explained Zymurgy: the art of brewing. :D

When I shut the BBS down, it was just hitting the switch. It's exactly as it was, so their should still be several thousand msgs (and beer recipes!) sitting on it. The fun part is remembering how to search 'em... I barely do any DOS work nowadays and have forgotten most of what I once knew, apart from minor batch scripts.

[Schtoo]

IMO a lot of water is wasted when they make Fosters.

Actually, I don't think they use any water when they brew Fosters.

Unless it's toilet water, the little yellow lollies and all... ;)

[masoth]

G'day Bat. I don't 'typically' make any brew but I am a non-stop experimenter.
My best(?) was 9.4% and tasted wonderful at about nine degrees (C), but most Oz drinkers want beer icy and that is why most commercial stuff tastes like Schlitz (is that the right spelling) the American junk, and that's the worst I've tasted, even compared with many Asian brews.
IF you, and anyone else, is interested an excellent Oz website is:

http://aussiehomebrewer.com/forum/

The mentioned 'chocolate' et al, recipes can be found there too. I don't have the time to visit ALL my pet websites, unfortunately - sob!!

Hang on!! I do have the time - I'm simply too bloody slow. Damn!!

[masoth]

By the way, Bat - disregard ALL bragging about Oz states be it beer, football, weather, stupid BIG things, bridges, fishing because the ONLY good state is the State of Intoxication (except when woodworking).
:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

soth

[Ratbag]

Bat, homebrewing is something my whole family gets involved in. After years of trial and more errors than I'll admit to when sober, here's our list of family favourites. Please don't regard this list as definitive or even authoritative. They're just the brews we keep coming back to after having less success elsewhere.

(1) Sassafras beer: A very old endemic recipe from Tassie. A variation of hot water Ginger beer, utilizing Sassafras (Atherosperma moschata) bark. Tasting notes: A most thirst quenching and refreshing drink for hot weather and hard work. Redolent of rainforests and foggy mountains.

(2) Cold water Beer: Traditional Ginger beer like your Gran would have made. Tasting notes: Not too acid, not too sweet. Just enough alchohol to enjoy without any nasty surprises. A great favourite with the kids.

(3) Theakston's Old Peculier: Actually a copy of the famous British brew. Tasting notes: Best served at room temperature. Warm, smooth almost "chewable" mouthfeel. Brewed for winter consumption.

(4) Budweiser: No, not the North American poor excuse for tapwater, but a copy of the original Pilsener from the Czech town of Budvar (hence the name of course), brewed with Beermaker's Czech Pilsener. A great Pilsener style best served cold and consumed in moderation.

(5) Cooper's Canadian Blonde: A beautiful, pale light style beer with lower gas and alchohol content. Our family's favourite daily drinker, and not as fattening as the other beers mentioned.

Become obsessive about hygeine. Rinse all you apparatus, your bottles and caps thoroughly after use. Sterilise rigourously. Instead of Sodium Metabisulfide (nasty stuff) I use dilute household bleach, soak everything for at least an hour or more and rinse everything thoroughly with the hottest water I can stand.

Use the best ingredients available. For the first two abovementioned brews you can use ordinary sugars, preferably Raw and if possible Organic. The others need proper Brew Enhancer style sugars. Ordinary sugar, or even proprietary Dextrose just won't cut it if you want a good head and mouth feel. Fresh hops and young yeast are desireable.

Most important of all, however, is your water. Tasmania is renowned for having the clearest air and water in the world, and yet what comes from my tap is barely fit to bathe in, let alone drink. I try to bring home fresh mountain water for brewing, and when I can't I'll fine filter my tapwater until I'm satisfied it's sweet enough to drink. It's not possible to make good beer if you cut corners with your ingredients.

If anybody wants a copy of any of our recipes to try then drop me a line. But don't take my word for it. There's an amazing home brewing subculture out there in cyberspace with an awful lot more expertise than I might pretend to have, with better ideas and recipes available I'm sure.

[Iain]

I generally have one cider and two beers on the go at any given time,I do AG brews as well as partials.
For partials I like like Coopers Old or Dark Ale with 1.5kg of Light Malt Extract and 15g Fuggles.
I have also made one using 500g DExtrose, 500g DME and 500LME, it is at present lying in wait.
I tried a Mexican Cerveza, mixed thoughts on it, drinkable, just.
At the end of fermentation I rack the brew for a week before bottling, I will get around to kegging one day.
Bat, if you are concerned about temps, try lagers in winter and ales in summer, lagers like a cold fermentation 12-18c whereas Ales like a higher temp, and toss the propiety yeast that the kits come with and use Safale or similar.
Never use sugar (white), it is absolute crap, will not ferment out completely and leaves a horrible 'my first home brew' flavour, use dextrose, sucrose, honey if you are really keen or malt extracts.

[scooter]

Enjoying the thread, keep it coming!

Ginger beer is on the gunna list, will pick your brain at some stage Gra and others for some pointers on getting started, when we were kids we used to have a "plant" in a jar on the window sill.

Mick, I had a neighbour who started home brewing as well, I thought I was set, turned out he was a real tightasre with it and wouldn't share it. Bugger :(

The mention of malt extract brings back memories, as kids we used to have a spoon of Saunders Malt Extract and a spoon of plain yoghurt each night. Hated the yogs but love the malt. Maunders Salt we used to call it.

My sister-in-law's intro to the family was a dinner, followed by "here, try a spoon of this, it's lovely"... Couldn't stand it, she ran out of the room, embarrassed, had to spit it out, good thing she recovered her composure and got over it.


Cheers...................Sean, up yer ginger :)

[journeyman Mick]

............Mick, I had a neighbour who started home brewing as well, I thought I was set, turned out he was a real tightasre with it and wouldn't share it. Bugger :(................


Sean,
my neighbour is very generous but unfortunately my allergies make beer consumption rather hazardous.:(

Mick

[scooter]

That's a bugger, Mick, your allergies have whiskers on 'em.

Good to have a nice neighbour tho'.

[ubeaut]

Have never brewed any but get phone calls every day from idiots who don't know the difference between
U-Beaut and U-Brewit a Geelong business that bottles your home brew for you.

Cheers - Neil

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[himzol]

Hand going up now,

I've got two ginger beers going at the moment, one is a straight Kit and kilo with some minor changes to the can recomendations. i.e. Brown suger instead of raw and chamagne yeast instead of the yeast supplied.

The other is a recipe I found on the net and had to do the thing from scratch, I'm worried about the amount of "eye of newt" though.:D :D

I have a pilsner which was straight K/K bottled last week which will be what I call BBQ beer, tastes better than factory beer but not quite a real pilsner.

Another month or so and it should be OK to brew some nice Largers around here.
I've got Grumpy's just up the road and they are real helpfull. http://www.grumpys.com.au/

Himzo.

[Christopha]

Ok, you lot have got me intrigued....
How do you recommend a bloke who;
A: Ain't real bright...
B: Lives in the bush...
C: Knows absolutely NOTHING about brewing......
....get started brewin' 'is own cos he is now a single old fart who can't afford to buy his occasional slab of Coopers. Now make 'em good cos if I can do this and do it gooderer I might be forced to share some with this old bugger I know who brews your favourite finishes....

[masoth]

Scurrilous Cur, (SORRY, I mean Christopha of course) not knowing where you are hiding can make advice giving longwinded/useless, but:
Check your local 'Smoke-signal' or 'Tom-tom' Yellow Pages under "home brewing", make a visit, grab the freebie bitsa paper - go to the closest pub to relax and read the info.

After a coupla hours go back to the shop to see if the bloke/shiela are good enough to explain/sell the needs, at a discount 'cause yer a good knock-a-bout sorta bloke, or have a peep at the web site I gave earlier, then go to the shop an' start again.

Seriously though, setting-up and getting started is a long haul. You may wonder if it's worth the effort - IT IS!!!!!!! Get to know the brew shop people - they are not too busy to make time for you.

The brewing is like the drinking. It can become a habit.:eek:

[Christopha]

Scurrilous Cur, (SORRY, I mean Christopha of course) not knowing where you are hiding can make advice giving longwinded/useless, but:
Check your local 'Smoke-signal' or 'Tom-tom' Yellow Pages under "home brewing", make a visit, grab the freebie bitsa paper - go to the closest pub to relax and read the info.

After a coupla hours go back to the shop to see if the bloke/shiela are good enough to explain/sell the needs, at a discount 'cause yer a good knock-a-bout sorta bloke, or have a peep at the web site I gave earlier, then go to the shop an' start again.

Seriously though, setting-up and getting started is a long haul. You may wonder if it's worth the effort - IT IS!!!!!!! Get to know the brew shop people - they are not too busy to make time for you.

Local brew shop??? surely you jest sir, the only places thar sell anything in that line in this huge metroplis are aour local supermarket where the high school girls work and they aren't exactly known for their brewing expertise or the local engineering supply place, the brewing "stuff" shares the shelf with the fuel additives, the CRC and the cans of grease.... and I kid you NOT! I shall have a look at your site.... thanks mate!
The brewing is like the drinking. It can become a habit.:eek:

[outback]

I know this is probably pointless, but it can't hurt.

I have maybe 200 bottles, a lever type top putter onner, probably some caps. If anyone in or travelling through my neck of the woods is interested, Lemme know, I have given brewing away, and I can use the space. I can guarantee a good deal.

[Iain]

Bummer, too far away, always need bottles:( :( :(
Another thing I have found is that if you buy the Coopers or No Name caps they work on twist tops, the HBS editions need an opener.

[himzol]

I just scored 150 Grolsh bottles so capping will become less of an issue, but I have found that the bench capper is better for screw tops.

Christopha,

If you can get to a "brewcraft" store they can set you up with a kit for about $40, I just baught my second fermenter from them and it came witha beer kit as well. you will need to get some bottles from somewhere though:rolleyes:

Himzo.

[masoth]

Outback, are you in the Central Australia Time Zone part of NSW?

[masoth]

Himzol's post reminded me - brew shops often run Father's Day Specials, so after considering all the gen, here and there, September might not be too far off.
Discounts IS discounts. ;)

soth

[Iain]

I would also suggest that anyone who is starting out on the homebrew trip, always rack your brew, much cleaner outcome.
Racking is taking the brew from the fermenter upon completion to a second fermenter, carefully, allow to sit for a week then bottle, all the crud is in the first fermenter and you finish up with less crap at the bottom of your bottle.
I find that even my partials (kit beer with addition of malt or whatever) are far superior to any 'shop' brew and you will eventually learn how to fine tune to your own taste.
Now fuggle* off and get on with it:D
*look it up on google

[outback]

Outback, are you in the Central Australia Time Zone part of NSW?

I'm not that farking far out. I'm only a few hours North of you.

[namtrak]

I just scored 150 Grolsh bottles so capping will become less of an issue, but I have found that the bench capper is better for screw tops.



Now thats a great score!!!!!!

[ozwinner]

I'm not that farking far out. I'm only a few hours North of you.

Ahh................
Broken hill?

Do I get a prize?

Al :p

[Ratbag]

I would also suggest that anyone who is starting out on the homebrew trip, always rack your brew, much cleaner outcome.
Racking is taking the brew from the fermenter upon completion to a second fermenter, carefully, allow to sit for a week then bottle, all the crud is in the first fermenter and you finish up with less crap at the bottom of your bottle.
I find that even my partials (kit beer with addition of malt or whatever) are far superior to any 'shop' brew and you will eventually learn how to fine tune to your own taste.
Now fuggle* off and get on with it:D
*look it up on google

OK, Iain, I'm fascinated. I can see where you're coming from in regard to minimising sludge, but don't you still get a fair bit of sediment from the secondary fermentation in the bottles? Is this where those proprietory fining come in or am I completely barking up the wrong tree? I fing sludge in the bottles really only a problem in my ginger beers/sassy beer. Do the same rules apply?

[Iain]

You get a lot less sludge in the bottom of the bottom of the bottle after racking, however, if you are used to SA beers, it really doesn't matter, they seem to think it is a benefit:p :p :p

[masoth]

Some fun and useful posts, so far.
I am sooooooooo careful when bottling I rarely have sediment, and providing not too much collects no harm appears to be done. On occasions I will stir (gently) before drinking - as I said, I experiement, this way you may get a surprise like the unexpected extra herb in an exotic meal.

outback:
"I'm not that farking far out. I'm only a few hours North of you."
- as ozwinner said, and I guessed Broken Hill because it is a couple of hours drive (not strictly North, if you're sober and can read a map) UP THE ROAD. 'The Hill' really is W/NSW, and is on Adelaide time (explaining this for the city folk who might think the only time's a good time).:cool:

:

[himzol]

You get a lot less sludge in the bottom of the bottom of the bottle after racking, however, if you are used to SA beers, it really doesn't matter, they seem to think it is a benefit:p :p :p


We call that carbo-boosting;) :D :D :D

Actually I don't get much sludge in my bottles because they generally have to sit around for four or five days after fermentation before I've got time to bottle, I guess the time of inactivity in the brew helps settle things to the bottom.

After bottling the sludge goes to the chooks, happiest chooks in the Adelaide hills.:D - just kidding, it actually goes on the compost heap, - where they get at it.;)

Himzo.

[Iain]

Finings can help, and if you want to save money just use a sachet of gelatine, I don't bother.
With the sediment, you still get some but considerably less after racking, I just pour carefully and pour one stubbie to one glass, that way the sediment stays on the bottom.
If you are doing an AG brew there can be a lot of sediment but that is the nature of the beast.

[outback]

OK, I'm a bit North, and a bit East. We are still stuck with bloody Daylight saving, sun doesn't come up til after lunch.

[jaspr]

[quote=bat]Tonight I brewed up another 5 gallons of Belgian Trippel. Next up is a Barley Wine. Anybody else here brew?

quote]

Hi Bat - welcome back - you can certainly pick your topics!

Hard to separate Australians from their beer - wouldn't want to try really. They'll go on for ages now comparing notes, bless 'em.

Got me thinking though - maybe I should give it a go. Or maybe the wine.

How do you make Barley Wine and what's it taste like?

jas

[Iain]

Our homebrew shops (HBS) sell distilling units, but they are only for extracting oils from plants as distilling spirits is illegal:rolleyes:

[CameronPotter]

After bottling the sludge goes to the chooks, happiest chooks in the Adelaide hills.:D - just kidding, it actually goes on the compost heap, - where they get at it.;)

Himzo.

I schwear offffissser, I hafffn't had anything to drink, hic, I just had a big omelette for dinner...

[masoth]

Iain.

What?

Oil?

I use mine to purify water, but ............. maybe Scotsmen only will understand that effort.

[Iain]

Aah winna ken what ye talkin aboot:rolleyes:

[ozwinner]

For a translation, go here.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Al :p :D

[Iain]

For a translation, go here.

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Al :p :D
It dinna work...........

[masoth]

It dinna work...........

I'm not sure if I should laught at you Iain, but nevertheless, well said.
:rolleyes: :D :D

[Iain]

turning off Scots accent:rolleyes: