View Full Version : A little help with french polish
joseph84
13th March 2006, 12:43 PM
Hi guys
ive just applied some feast watson french polish onto some raw kauri timber. I didnt bother applying a sealer as i was told this timber is really tight grained so wasnt needed. I intended on applying about 4 coats of french polish on to the timber, sanding back between each coat. After this, i intend to buff it back with wax but my question is what can i use to speed up the buffing process. I know bunnings have a lambs wool cover that slips on top of a random orbital disk sander but is this safe as im scared it might leave marks? Also what speed should the sander be on? I was thinking of buying the ubeat drill attachment buffer but not sure if this will do the job on large flat surfaces as it is round.
Hope this all makes sense and thanks for any help you can give me :)
Joseph
la Huerta
13th March 2006, 03:13 PM
well i would not buff french polish, i think it needs that soft hand technique, keep applying coats oof french polish till you get a wonderfull sheen, lightly sanding between coats, you want atleast 6 coats to get enough build...then a hand wax...
outback
13th March 2006, 03:15 PM
What you are doing isn't strctly french polishing. You are using shellac, which they use for french polishing.
It is a really nice finish however. If ya wanna you can get a swansdown mop from Neil, or some elbow grease, available locally I believe.
ubeaut
13th March 2006, 05:44 PM
The pic below shows the Swansdown Mop (http://www.ubeaut.com.au/sdmops.htm) being used in a drill to buff a table top that's what it is designed for. The buff is used up and down the length of the table going with the grain and leaves none of the buffing marks you would get with a conventional buff which will leave swirls on the surface of the work due to the circular action.
http://www.ubeaut.com.au/buff2.jpg
The 100 fold buff will spread to about 100 -110+mm (or more) across the face giving a wide stable buffing surface for large flat work, the 75 fold will spread to around 75mm and is more suited to smaller flat work on boxes etc.
Random orbital is not the way to go with buffing as it does not produce a positive buffing action it is a kind of wishy-washy action with no real guts or gusto to it. A wool buff or pad on a drill or proper buffing machine is much better because it has the positive action, but inevitably leaves swirls in the finish from the circular action of the tool, it is also very, very easy to burn the finish with one of these buffs and because they are usually synthetic (not real lambs wool) they often lease little bits of the synthetic fibres in the finish especially if used wrong and it softens the surface of the work.
A 100mm Swansdown Buff will cost you about 5-6 times more than a cheap artificial wool one but will do a much better job much quicker and with less likelihood of burning the work and will continue to work brilliantly for many, many, years to come.
Cheers - Neil :)
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outback
13th March 2006, 06:07 PM
That's just what I said. :D
Have Pm'ed my address for forwarding my share of the graft and corruption...................................Oh I mean gratitude for unsolicited testimonial. :D
rsser
13th March 2006, 06:14 PM
Hi Joseph,
I was taught by my first woodturning teacher to buff turnings on the lathe with a lambswool bonnet and a small amount of wax. Drill turning at high speed.
It was easy to get globby build up by using too much wax, but then I just had to heat the globs up by speed and pressure to spread them out.
If you're doing furniture, then a quality wax like Ubeaut Trad'l Wax or Gilly Stephenson's cabinet makers wax, combined with the Swansdown mop is the way to go. Again, less is more.
la Huerta
13th March 2006, 06:39 PM
now there you see...even i just learned a few things...
joseph84
13th March 2006, 07:23 PM
thanks a lot guys:) and thanks neil, i will be puchasing the Swansdown Buff this week as i dont trust those cheapie bunnings versions. Better spending a few extra bucks and be safe then sorry!