Get Serious Children! [Archive]

DPB

19th February 2006, 02:00 PM

For the past while, I've noticed that the ratio of serious posts to silly posts is drastically falling.

Now no one enjoys a good chuckle more than I, but humour requires a delicate balance. You've probably observed young children that haven't figure that out yet. They do something funny and everyone laughs. So they repeat it and most laugh, but eventually what garnered laughs becomes just plain silly.

I think that's in danger of happening on these forums. More and more space is taken up by children who don't know when funny becomes boring.

If you don't think I'm right, do a "New Posts" search. Yesterday, easy 2/3's of the posts had little, or nothing to do with woodworking. OK so it goes in cycles and today it's a bit better.

Here's my challenge, since this is a woodworking forum, why not impose some self-discipline? Make at least three of four posts that are woodworking related. Forget about trying to be the funniest child on the block and avoid hijacking every post that comes along. Respond with comments that are on the subject. Sure don't forget your Aussie humour, but if all you ever post is non-woodworking in content - go elsewhere!

At least that's how I see it!:( Go ahead - this is just the kind of post that gets severely flamed.

dazzler

19th February 2006, 02:22 PM

Dazzler
I cut my wood with a handsaw. it is good

I use a dust extractor. It sucks out the dust.

Woodbe
Pot, meet Kettle. You're both black! :)

Dazzler
How do you dress timber?

Anyways this goat walks into a bar....................;)

Groggy
Guess I'll be outta here then, cya...

doug the slug

19th February 2006, 03:02 PM

Don, everything you said was right, even the bit at the bottom about getting seriously flamed. thank-you for having the guts to say it even though you were aware of the consequences.

redwood

19th February 2006, 03:13 PM

Have to agree Don. Im at times guilty as i just go straight to the new post thread and respond to what ever takes my fancy as most posts are non wood related. the wood posts do get hijacked quickly if they go past a day or so and some get bored with them. if you look back over the serious posts the same groups are the hijacking comedians having fun, and they know who they are:D :D :D :D 80% woodwork related and 20% for the wanna be comedians would be a good ballance:D

ubeaut

19th February 2006, 04:14 PM

Groggy

19th February 2006, 04:29 PM

Strewth Don - Talk about leading with your chin.

I couldn't agree with you more. It is often very frustrating. You and most others only get to see what is left after the axes have been swung you ought to see some of the rot that we delete. :mad:

Cheers - Neil :)Ok Neil, I agree there's a lot of rot and I would be one of the main culprits . But why has this "HAVE YOUR SAY" thread been so heavily edited?

Termite

19th February 2006, 04:37 PM

Well it's a funny thing but a hell of a lot of real good advice comes from some of the biggest clowns on the forum, not the idiots, the clowns.

If you care to do a search of the point scorers you will find a lot of the clowns are in the top 15, but none of the idiots, does this say anything at all? ;)

In my opinion I'm one of the clowns, but there are a lot of people on this forum who have recieved not only serious advice via posts, but phone calls to walk them step by step through a problem. So from me you either take the bad with the good or put me on your ignore list.

Lignum

19th February 2006, 04:46 PM

Good call Don:) In the past i was guilty of being an idiot and not treating the forum with the respect it deserves and i learned my lesson. I like it here, so now i prefer just to focus on all things wood even if i rave on to much on a particular topic. Having fun is good and shouldnt be stopped but it shouldnt be at the expense of the reason we are all members, and thats the love and passion we all have for all things wood:) :)

ubeaut

19th February 2006, 05:00 PM

Groggy This thread hasn't been heavily edited just had all the funny ones merged into one.

Saves space on the server and was fun for this admin. But not for you eh?

Usually I never edit or delete anything unless it is completely over the top and over the top to me means WAAAY over the top. However this time I did and I liked it.... Maybe I'll continue http://www.ubeaut.biz/devil.gif Mwaahahaha

Groggy

19th February 2006, 05:07 PM

Hasn't been heavily edited just had all the funny ones merged into one.

Saves space on the server and was fun for this admin. But not for you eh?

Usually I never edit or delete anything unless it is completely over the top and over the top to me means WAAAY over the top. However this time I did and I liked it.... Maybe I'll continue http://www.ubeaut.biz/devil.gif MwaahahahaNeil, I respect your right to do that and I suspect you did it in the hope of needling some of the culprits under discussion. Since I have obviously been a bit of a pest I'll drop off the bulletin board and lower the noise for you, as I had not been aware it was a problem.

I suggest that in future people let us know if we go overboard, as it is easier and less embarrasssing to reverse a developing behaviour than to reverse an embedded one.

Thank you for running such an informative site, I've enjoyed my time here and wish you and the other members the best for the future.

ubeaut

19th February 2006, 05:26 PM

You've got to be joking. :rolleyes:

ozwinner

19th February 2006, 05:33 PM

I have a serious medical condition, where as I cant stop being funny.
Annoying as it can be, Im sorry.

Its been diagnosed as the Billy Connolly syndrome, and I have to live with it.
I would respectfuly ask all my mates real or imaginary to live with it too.

And if you think Im going away...............FORGET IT..........

Al :p

Termite

19th February 2006, 05:38 PM

Anyone who wants to try and grow sugarcane in Melbourne is definitely "Funny".:rolleyes: :D

ozwinner

19th February 2006, 05:45 PM

Anyone who wants to try and grow sugarcane in Melbourne is definitely "Funny".:rolleyes: :D

So send me a bit and Ill get it to grow.

I have actually seen it here in ppl's gardens.

This hyjack has been endorsed by the Clowns Front for Liberation.

Al :D

Termite

19th February 2006, 05:47 PM

Hey Al, we are going to get crucified, we are in the process of a hijack out of sheer habit. :D

ozwinner

19th February 2006, 06:02 PM

Hey Al, we are going to get crucified, we are in the process of a hijack out of sheer habit. :D

Like it says at the top of page.

Give someone a pat on the back, or a kick their bum. ONE STIPULATION: Keep it about woodwork and related woodies stuff.

Sugarcane has celious so has a tree??

So its all the same, isnt it?

Al :confused: :p

ozwinner

19th February 2006, 06:05 PM

Sorry Don.
But unless Neil or tell me to pull my head in, a clown is what I will be.

I am a clown full time sorry. :D

Al :eek:

Termite

19th February 2006, 06:06 PM

Sugarcane has celious so has a tree??
They both have celulose too, seig heil. :D

ozwinner

19th February 2006, 06:09 PM

They both have celulose too, seig heil. :D

Yeah what ever, I bet you spelt it wrong too heir Hitler.

Al :rolleyes:

namtrak

19th February 2006, 07:17 PM

These are woodworking forums? uh?

:D

macca2

19th February 2006, 07:26 PM

dazzler

19th February 2006, 08:03 PM

Hi DPM

Trying to be serious for a minute. I agree that hijacking can be a problem sometimes and needs to be watched.

But I just logged onto new posts and 13 of 59 were non wood related. And these were in the forums dedicated to that role.

Thats okay isnt it.

And this isnt very cool is it??;

"Sure don't forget your Aussie humour, but if all you ever post is non-woodworking in content - go elsewhere!"

Surely anyone is welcome to come and join in provided they play by the rules?

Its a fine balance but I think I would rather the current mix than a bunch of old men peering down there glasses like old sages hey?

Note: (Grose generalisation :p :rolleyes: )

Perhaps the moderators could split the "new posts" in two so you can have serious and nonserious?

cheers mate

dazzler

Oh and at least my avitar is always thinking about wood

redwood

19th February 2006, 08:11 PM

Maccas on the money:D the hijackers are the ones that annoy me most and as usual the chief instigator has turned this thread around with the usual poor attempt at comic hijacking:cool:

JDarvall

19th February 2006, 08:23 PM

There are times when I, and I suspect other members hesitate to post a question on this BB because of the fear that it will be hijacked before getting any usefull answers.
Once a thread is hijacked the serious answers tend to stop.
A pity that.
Thanks Macca

yep, I can see that happening, but then there's always a balance I notice. Well mostly. Some knowledgeable bloke, who couldn't be bothered reading all the following silly posts, just answers your first origional post succinently <- just the stuff you want.

As for the fear of asking a silly question. How else you gonna find some good answers without bitting the bullet and just asking. Off the forum the same problem must still exist, when face to face with someone. In fact I'd say over the net, with all the anonononomity (I can't bloody be bothered spelling that right) its a lot easier asking silly questions.

Truthfully, I find myself asking silly questions sometimes, even though I'm pretty shore what the answer is, just cause I like to be cautious (Sounds like a good excuse :p ). See, I might have missed something obvious, and often, the following discussion reveals a relevent piece of info, that I would never have thought of....and all cause of a dumb question.....

I mean, its easy to deal with embarrissment after making a fool of yourself....just post one of these things -> :o .....feel instantly better after that.....bit like confessional; a reset button....can start acting like a wally all over again.

:o ......ahhhh, thats better.

outback

19th February 2006, 08:31 PM

Could the kind members of this forum tell me if I'm a clown or an idiot. I want to keep my avatar up to date.

Remeber kids, life's to short to be taken seriously.

ss_11000

19th February 2006, 08:33 PM

Remeber kids, life's to short to be taken seriously.

can you tell my teachers that?:D

craigb

19th February 2006, 09:00 PM

Could the kind members of this forum tell me if I'm a clown or an idiot. I want to keep my avatar up to date.

Remeber kids, life's to short to be taken seriously.

I'm not sure if you're a clown or an idiot OB. No, you're not an idiot. ;)

Just be thankful that you're not a sanctimonious old phart. :eek:

bitingmidge

19th February 2006, 09:19 PM

I dunno, I go away for TWO DAYS, and the place gets overrun by clowns and idiots....
http://www.fourcorners.co.nz/content/images/355/550x550normal/114950clows.jpg

I don't know what's happened over the weekend Don, but on Friday I was getting reeeeeeal peeved, because there hadn't been any funny stuff for days and days.

Go the clowns! :D :D :D

But I do like the serious stuff too!!!!

P (Desperately seeking balance!)

echnidna

19th February 2006, 09:24 PM

Well I dunno,
heres another thread on a woodie forum that's not talking about wood stuff.

maybe you lot should be talking more about woodie stuff and
....... not about etiquette
:D

bitingmidge

19th February 2006, 09:34 PM

At least my clowns have wooden balls....
P

:rolleyes:

Wongo

19th February 2006, 09:39 PM

Don,

I agree with what you are saying. However, it is only so much we can talk about in woodwork. After 2.5 years since I become a member, although I cannot say we have talked about everything in woodwork but we have certainly talked about a lot of stuff and sometimes over and over again.

I am a very keen woodworker and I love to muck around too. This forum was crowned #1 in its kind last week. It shows that this forum is popular. If you take all the non-woodwork stuff away, the result may be different.

Personally I don’t like guys who come here and talk about anything else but woodwork. I believe most of us here are keen woodworkers. We do enjoy a few conversations. And sometimes it is the company of a few woodwork mates that gets us through a hard day in the office.

Wongo (who is about to post his latest project)

macca2

19th February 2006, 09:41 PM

Rusty

19th February 2006, 09:48 PM

Sometimes smart-arseing (for me) is a way of contributing when you don't know it all about woodwork. I spend a lot of time lurking and just soaking up knowledge- gotta get those posts up, somehow...:rolleyes: I mean, at least I feel I'm contributing even if my foot's in my mouth.

Mmmm, grotty redback...

I get the point, but I can't help but feel that there's a little bit of getting over it to be done. I could be wrong. But I don't think so.

kind regards,
Rusty.

JDarvall

19th February 2006, 10:17 PM

Tripper.......How's your eyesight......I never mentioned a fear of asking a silly question. There are no silly questions. There are some silly answers though.

I did mention a fear (probably the wrong word) of getting the thread hijacked before getting an answer.

Macca

How's my Eyesight ? ......stuffed apparently....gota squint A lot.

My wife's got good eyes though. She says she can see nits laying eggs on my kids hair strands....she says they crawl to the very top, and very slowly wiggle there butts and move down the hair popping eggs as they go....how about that !.... Shes got Chuck Yeagor eyes ! ... I'm flat out sighting a nit, let alone one of their eggs.....how one can see a bloody thing, through all those tea tree oil fumes, never ceases to amaze me anyway. The stuff doesn't work, but she insists on being,,,,uno, oh naturel. :rolleyes:

Macca, I never said you mentioned a fear of asking a silly question. I would have thought the only real fear of hijacking is when one feels they are asking something they fear is a silly question.

I mean, what do you think.....would a guy like 'arold, be more likely to &&&&& stirr a thread named....say

'Whats a nail for ?'

or

'where can I get a triple biapases coupling for my centurion Mark 5 lathe'

Do you think hijackings got so bad that a member would fear posting even something that isn't silly ? Cause if thats the case, I reakon this forum's definetly on its way up &&&& creek.....

if someones that timid, sounds more like ,IMO, he probably needs a good stir so he can toughen up a bit. :eek:

macca2

19th February 2006, 10:43 PM

[QUOTE=apricotripper].
As for the fear of asking a silly question. How else you gonna find some good answers without bitting the bullet and just asking. Off the forum the same problem must still exist, when face to face with someone. In fact I'd say over the net, with all the anonononomity (I can't bloody be bothered spelling that right) its a lot easier asking silly questions.

Must be my sight that's going.:confused:
Silly me, for believing what I read.:eek:
Sorry 'bout that.
Macca;)

doug the slug

19th February 2006, 10:48 PM

Ok, i see this as a "serious " thread cos it can have seriuous impact on the future of the forum and what direction it takes. from that perspective, im glad teh moderators are taking a serious interest. what do we want the forum to be??? we winge when theres nobody asking questions for us to answer , yet when they ask a question we say " why didnt you do a search, we have covered that last year". .Dont forget that technology is always changing and what was the best wayto fit the manglaworzel into the whatchamacalllit last year may be totally outmoded by now. searches are great but realtime answers are often better.

I joined in May last year, and i brought with me a hell of a lot of amateur knowledge (i built a whole houseful of furniture with a b&d workmate, a circular saw, a sander and a handful of chisels). now that I could afford more gear (triton and woodrat etc) i can do a lot more.

BUT, that basic knowledge, applied at that level and also converted to the new level i had reached, allowed me to help a lot of people in this forum, in return for the help i had received from other members, I have been able to help a lot of others, and I am proud of that!

Well, at the moment, I dont feel so proud of the contributions put in by a few other members. they arent really contributo0ng anything positive that is useable at teh moment or anytime in the future.

jiokes are fine, in the joke forum, witty retorts are fine in any forum. swomeone leaves themself open for a witty comeback go for it, but dont lose sight of what we are here for - taking the p1s$ out of each other (or was that woodwork? damn my short attention span)
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JDarvall

19th February 2006, 10:53 PM

[quote=apricotripper].
As for the fear of asking a silly question. How else you gonna find some good answers without bitting the bullet and just asking. Off the forum the same problem must still exist, when face to face with someone. In fact I'd say over the net, with all the anonononomity (I can't bloody be bothered spelling that right) its a lot easier asking silly questions.

Must be my sight that's going.:confused:
Silly me, for believing what I read.:eek:
Sorry 'bout that.
Macca;)

What the ,what, eh ? whats that ? :confused: .... this is just getting way too hard now to understand Macca. I think its time I be a coward and bail out:D ..... Is it smart to jump out of a plane wearing a parachute with holes in it ?.......<- Hah ! see, there ARE some silly questions ! ;)

Skew ChiDAMN!!

19th February 2006, 11:02 PM

Is it smart to jump out of a plane wearing a parachute with holes in it ?.......<- Hah ! see, there ARE some silly questions ! ;)

What's silly about that? They gotta have at least one hole (on the bottom) to let air in, otherwise it's a balloon. :rolleyes:

Ashore

19th February 2006, 11:49 PM

.
If you don't think I'm right, do a "New Posts" search. Yesterday, easy 2/3's of the posts had little, or nothing to do with woodworking. OK so it goes in cycles and today it's a bit better.

The new posts search is in effect a small search engine, try having a look in woodturning, finishing,General , home renovation, triton forum, box making, wooden boat forum, festool forum, tools & machinery, contacts, woodcarving, metalwork & council of woodwork clubs and tell us what the ratio of " little, or nothing to do with woodworking." compared to what you consider to do with woodworking posts
If you don't like the banter sarcasam jokes then go through the posts that intrest you instead of using the easy way search engine
As to hijacking threads the path followed is a direct result of the replys posted, does everyone have to start a new thread for each question
ie.. A thread on scms may result in a question as to the best way to cut tennons, whats the problem if you want it back on line post a reply and say so , or ask the question again
Silly questions " the old adage runs true there are no silly questions " how many people just lurk and get the answers to questions that you or I may think are general knowledge and how many just don't ask incase they are thought dumb not to know the answers
Smart-&&&& answers , there are a lot of Aussie members "well as other nationalties who hold there own" whose answers may not be to your liking
or you can make no sense of , then ignore them , cause you will proberly never understand, There are some on this forum whose sense of humor is diffrent/ beyond yours if so ignore their posts ( note Ignore List is supplied by the forum)

Finally this is a public forum and once regestered you are a member , to view or post as you wish , if you overstep the guidelines then the axe will fall , deleted or banned, I did not read in the rules as to the number of woodie or non woodie stuff you could post , the forum made No 1 why change the format, Some times its slow so people who like logging in to the forum put in frivilous posts, these seem to get a lot of replys why
.........cause theres nothing else to talk about..... cause the forum is far better than TV

Rgds

RufflyRustic

20th February 2006, 10:06 AM

........

I am a very keen woodworker and I love to muck around too. This forum was crowned #1 in its kind last week. It shows that this forum is popular. If you take all the non-woodwork stuff away, the result may be different.

Personally I don’t like guys who come here and talk about anything else but woodwork. I believe most of us here are keen woodworkers. We do enjoy a few conversations. And sometimes it is the company of a few woodwork mates that gets us through a hard day in the office.

Wongo (who is about to post his latest project)

Totally agree with you Wongo.

I'm a totally mad, keen, obsessed and passionate woodworker and yes, there have been many days where I needed this forum to get through the rotten day at the office I was having.

Wendy

bitingmidge

20th February 2006, 10:16 AM

Sure don't forget your Aussie humour, but if all you ever post is non-woodworking in content - go elsewhere!

Don ,

I just want to say, I agree totally with the above, and on re-reading your post I guess this is what you were getting at.

Cheers,

Midge2K
;)

rodm

20th February 2006, 12:16 PM

Don
Spot on. I enjoy a good laugh but the board is shifting from clever wit to silly remarks and far too much flaming. New members have to go through a kind of school yard initiation before they are accepted. For some of these the humor is lost and they don't come back and that is our loss.
We have lost a couple of long term highly respected (for their woodworking advise) members recently and some others have taken a much lower profile.:( If this is the way the majority want the board to go then that is fine and like I said I enjoy a good laugh but for me I would like to see a shift back to woodworking topics.

Termite

20th February 2006, 01:38 PM

DPB

20th February 2006, 02:41 PM

Recognise these words from 2 days ago?

But it's the million little things that are different that can get under your skin. I had to learn that different doesn't mean worse or better - it simply means different. Once I learned to accept that I was home and hosed.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Perhaps you missed my point, I enjoy humour. It lightens an otherwise drab day. It restores the spirit. It refreshes the soul. It mollifies the mundane.

Silliness should not be confused with humour. Humour is mature, articulate, often subtle, but always clever. So my comments were not directed toward the iconoclastic Aussie humour as much as plain silly immaturity that some would attempt to pass off as humour. If you can't be funny, why substitute childish dribble in its place?

I don't want a dull "American-type" forum. But I do want one with woodworking as the primary focus. And I certainly don't want to have to wade through mindless dribble to find the nuggets of woodworking gems that have so long been the hallmark of these forums.

Maybe the advice I was given to put the perpetrators of this witless mirth on my ignore list is worth consideration.;)

JackoH

20th February 2006, 03:30 PM

Interesting to note that the "jokes" forum states that it is for funny stories about woodwoking. When was the last time that one or those appeared? Either there aren't any or us woodies are serious types when it comes to our hobby and don't know any

Groggy

20th February 2006, 03:55 PM

I did a little soul searching since the last post I made (and a PM to DPB) and I'd like to say a bit more for what I hope is the betterment of the forum.

After researching a few hundred posts I have made and, discounting those made in the non woodwork categories (Nothing at all to do with Woodwork, Polls, Announcements, Buy Sell 'n Swap, Woodies Jokes, Woodwork Pics, Non Woodwork and Hatches Matches Dispatches...), my signal to noise ratio is less than 10% (which I'll try to improve btw). Not included in that review was a number of PMs of help to others and many links to pages on my website where I store information for others to use (I do not post my site for everyone to see because of the bandwidth that gets chewed up).

However, I now wonder how many culprits there actually are who provide no woodworking content, 90% noise, or, as Redwood indicated, less than 80% woodwork related? I think it is time to "put up" some facts to support this feeling and talk to the individuals concerned about it. There was a thread a short while ago about the use of reddies, let me offer a quote from the FAQ, and I'd like the admins to comment if they feel it doesn't apply here:

"Negative reputation should be given if the person is posting something that detracts from the conversation. If the post is rude, inappropriate, breaks forum rules, is not gracious, etc; these are all good reasons to give negative reputation."

If people have an issue with a post that detracts from the conversation (hijack or humour), a reddie is appropriate. That will give ongoing feedback to newbies and the old hands alike, and be easily tied to a thread.

What I would like to suggest as the best remedy to this issue, is to use the reputation system for what it appears to have been intended.

So, unless otherwise directed by UBeaut and co (hopefully with a reason), I no longer plan to leave as I have not broken any of the so called "limits" mentioned throughout this thread or the conditions of use - sorry if that disappoints anyone.

namtrak

20th February 2006, 04:20 PM

Well I reckon 10% of my posts are about woodworking (poor woodworking at that) about 50% about renovating and about 40% drivel. And I still reckon it's a storm in a teacup. I can see the point about hijacking, pancakes, idiot posts etc etc but I mean seriously - big deal!! I have no trouble finding whatever I need using the search button and the Best of the Best posts are like gold. It sort of seems a bit like the humour police are at work.

:rolleyes:

redwood

20th February 2006, 04:51 PM

Negative reputation should be given if the person is posting something that detracts from the conversation. If the post is rude, inappropriate, breaks forum rules, is not gracious, etc; these are all good reasons to give negative reputation."

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:D armed and red-ie for the next silly hijacker:D
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Termite

20th February 2006, 05:21 PM

No I did not miss your point, however, broadly categorising the jesters as children did get up my nose,(and I suspect a few others) it came across to me as a little superior.

From your own words it would appear that this forum is not the way you want it to be, well until otherwise enforced by the owner of this forum, this is the way it is, and we all have to live with it.

May I suggest that the only way you may get a forum to your complete liking is to start your own, where you can eliminate the childish element with a swish of your own axe, and enforce a strict adherence to woodwork subjects only.

OR

Learn a little more tolerance and forgiveness, we both after all qualify as "Grumpy Old Men". ;) :D

HappyHammer

20th February 2006, 05:24 PM

Termite

20th February 2006, 05:26 PM

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:D armed and red-ie for the next silly hijacker:D
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Have you learned how to self reddie? :D

DanP

20th February 2006, 06:08 PM

I originally came to these forums googling WW related things.

I came back because of the humour. Whether the humour is clever or silly I don't care. It's what keeps me here. I have the occasional question on WW and I post it and if it goes awry I post something to bring it back.

It's just life that you will come across people that annoy you every now and then and some that you just can't stand. If someone doesn't like me then so be it. I post what I want to and I don't really care what people think of what I post. If you don't like that philosophy, stiff sh it. This is a public forum, which means that you have to deal with all members of the public. Not just the ones you like.

I don't look in every thread. I always use the new posts button and I ignore anything that the title doesn't interest me. If the post get to a couple of pages, I'll have a look and quite often end up posting. It's usually been hijacked by then and it's the hijack that I find interesting or amusing.

My 2c

Dan

Auld Bassoon

20th February 2006, 06:57 PM

Trouser armour is ON :)

doug the slug

20th February 2006, 11:13 PM

I originally came to these forums googling WW related things.

Me too Dan

I came back because of the humour. Whether the humour is clever or silly I don't care. It's what keeps me here. I have the occasional question on WW and I post it and if it goes awry I post something to bring it back.

I kept coming back because of people like you, Dan, and gumby, stuart lees, sturdee,biting midge, craigB, zenwood, ashore and a hundred others (sorry not gonna take the risk of forgetting anyone) but i started out in the triton forums cos thats what i had, along with a fair bit of experience in woodworking. (these as i recall it were the very active members in the triton and other forums i delved into back then as i remember it)

It was a buzz geting help from the forum members but it was a bigger buzzz being able to help out others when i could.

It's just life that you will come across people that annoy you every now and then and some that you just can't stand. If someone doesn't like me then so be it. I post what I want to and I don't really care what people think of what I post. If you don't like that philosophy, stiff sh it. This is a public forum, which means that you have to deal with all members of the public. Not just the ones you like.

could not have said it better with all my years of journalistic experience.

Lets get back to using the forum for what its been set up for ( now what was uit set up for again? - thats right! tipping $h!t over each otherhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

Christopha

21st February 2006, 09:46 AM

Once upon a time, in the land of UBeautia, a cheerful gnome of disgusting habits used to give lots of advice to inexperienced woodwork Imps very loudly in the public square. He stopped doing so in the public square as he got sick of a few of the Imps continuously hurling large lumps of of poo from the yukky Bullschidt bird at him. He thought it most foolish of these silly creatures but felt sorry for the many who actually listened and gleaned some small assistance from his humble offerings. So he stopped being loud in the public square, took many of his loud lessons and "POOF!!", disappeared..... he reappeared in a different form but with one important change, while at times he was still very loud and sometimes nearly (?) as silly as the loud Imps when he was in the public square... He still gave advice, but he chose to give his advice quietly in the corner to those who would like to hear so that the nasty Imps wouldn't throw any big, hard, smelly lumps of poo from the Bullschidt bird at him.

CameronPotter

21st February 2006, 09:47 AM

I originally came to these forums googling WW related things.

I came back because of the humour. Whether the humour is clever or silly I don't care. It's what keeps me here. I have the occasional question on WW and I post it and if it goes awry I post something to bring it back.

My sentiments exactly.

Came here when searching for answers. Came here again searching for answers (at which stage I thought that I had found a good source of info.). But I keep coming back because I enjoy it.

I only really monitor a few boards and usually I leave the non-woodworking ones alone (more out of time constraints that anything), but it is ideal the way it is (for me at least).

Every question has a good and fast answer (or at least that is my experience so far).
People are friendly and welcoming (no "initiation" for me).
It is all good fun.

I would also guess that if you said in a thread, "Look fellas, I don't mind the hijack really, but can I get a straight answer - I really need this problem solved." Someone would do it - oh, and everyone else would tease you!! :p

Cam

ps This all being said, I don't use the "new posts" button as there is simply too much on this board to be able to do that.

JDarvall

21st February 2006, 10:35 AM

Perhaps you missed my point, I enjoy humour. It lightens an otherwise drab day. It restores the spirit. It refreshes the soul. It mollifies the mundane.

Silliness should not be confused with humour. Humour is mature, articulate, often subtle, but always clever. So my comments were not directed toward the iconoclastic Aussie humour as much as plain silly immaturity that some would attempt to pass off as humour. If you can't be funny, why substitute childish dribble in its place?

Not to take sides :o but I tend to understand Termites point better.

I think what makes this discussion totally unresolveable is firstly cause there are so many different definitions of...

Sillyness
Humour

Can you define these perfectly ? Very subjective stuff.

But, not only do the definitions of these words change from person to person, BUT ALSO, sometimes these definitions change daily in any one person, right ?...depending on ones mood. If your relaxed and happy, maybe after a drink or two, I suspect normal sillyness (when your serious and sober) becomes clever wit ....

I've been in the company of many supposedly mature, articulate, professional (snobby) types... who prior to a glass of wine would only laugh at the cleverist of puns......but then after a couple of drinks would relax and have a giggle when someone farts.... :confused:

I mean, this whole discussion a bit silly in itself. Its leaning towards enforcing one definition of humour, which:confused: , hasn't really been defined yet....and damit ! if you can't conform your out !:D ...... conform to what DPB?....maybe you should first define what constitutes funny in point form for us all....uno, have a funny list and a silly list, so we all know how to be funny and what to avoid so we're never silly (:eek: god forbid!)

I mean, what I don't understand is why you can let yourself get so serious that you'd start a thread on it. Hang on, Hang on..... your pulling our legs arn't you ? :D I see now, this whole threads just a practical joke. Had me going....

sinjin1111

21st February 2006, 12:01 PM

Eggs have gone up at safeways this weeks.
Sinjin

ozwinner

21st February 2006, 04:45 PM

Eggs have gone up at safeways this weeks.
Sinjin

You need to go to hijack school..:D

Al :rolleyes:

Auld Bassoon

21st February 2006, 05:41 PM

You need to go to hijack school..:D

Al :rolleyes:

Now there's a business opportunity :eek: :D

Rossluck

21st February 2006, 06:55 PM

I'm new to the forum, and have thoroughly enjoyed it since first discovering it. Like DanP, I tend to avoid making a comment in a woodworking board. But this isn't because I'm not interested or because I don't want to engage with others in a mutual interest. It's more in deference to the wealth of knowledge out there. In a way typical of an "apprentice", I'm trying to learn by watching and listening. This forum, from what I can see, replicates any meeting of people who share a mutual interest: the object of interest only forms a part of the conversation. I think the mixture's spot on, and the humour, knowledge of woodworking, wood, mechanics, metalworking, tools, computing (any other stuff I can't think of now) is amazing and impressive. Sometimes self reflexivity can be a negative experience. I think the forum deserves a pat on the back.