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keith53
6th February 2006, 10:53 PM
Many of you may not know this but the predeliction of the Yanks to call 'chips' - 'french fries' has a bit of history to it.
In the late 1600's, while the Poms were trying to colonise America, they didn't have anywhere near enough troops to do the job. So, they enlisted the help of some free-ranging French sailors who'd lost their way trying to navigate their way back to France. Not wanting to fight, as usual, the French employed some innovative ways to pass the time. One of these, was to use the broad-bladed cutlasses they'd been issued with to chop potatoes into smaller and smaller slivers. These they'd fry up in a cauldron of fat & to which they'd add a generous helping of salt (which they'd gotten from the salt flats of Northern Australia - they'd accidentally bumped into this on they're way home).
The locals saw this and began calling this process "French Fries".
keith53
6th February 2006, 10:58 PM
At around about the same time, a religious sect called the Shakers were really off at their treatment by the British Government and so decided to take off to the new colony of America. They travelled to the relatively new colony & setup settlements apart from the mainstream population.
With no local interaction, and no sex, they had plenty of time on their hands. So, they decided to invent things. Apart from paint, clothes pegs and some other good stuff, they came up with the circular saw.
One night, two of the 'brothers' had just got their new-fangled invention running when Jethro, a newly-converted shaker, came back to camp after an 'interaction' with the local community. One of the locals had given him a sack of potatoes...
soundman
6th February 2006, 11:04 PM
so they wern't a waste product from a pole lathe as previousy thaught:rolleyes:
keith53
6th February 2006, 11:08 PM
Jethro was a little bit wobbly from his evening of embibing & was keen to show the brothers the spuds he'd gotten from the nearby local community. (By this time, the word 'french fries' had become commonplace within the American vernacuar).
Dipping into his bag, Jethro produced a prime spud. As he went to show it to the brothers, he stumbled in the sawdust the spinning circular saw had produced and he lurched forward propelling the spud into the saw. One of the brothers remarked that the effect was similar to that of creating 'chips' of wood. Remember, they (the two brothers) had been witnessing this ever since they got the saw spinning. (One of them was turning the saw and one was feeding the wood).
They (all three of them - Jethro included - by now they'd all become a bit peckish - the two brothers with their saw-turning and J with his attack of the munchies ) decided to try the french method of frying the 'chips' of potato. This exercise was such a success that it was decreed that throughout all of the Shaker settlements, finely cut-up potatoes would henceforth be known as 'chips'.
keith53
6th February 2006, 11:21 PM
So, you ask, how did this get to Australia?
Well, one of the crew of the Bounty (mentioned in a previous post) accidentally swam in the wrong direction and ended up in America. After staggering around for months and months, he ended up on the outskirts of a Shaker settlement.
Upon smelling the 'chips' cooking, he stole up to the window just in time to hear the pronouncement (about them being called 'chips').
Upon his return to Australia, he immediately approached the local Governor and was immediately granted a franchise to produce the 'chips' for the whole colony.
Poms coming to Australia still used the American term 'french fries' for many years. That all changed in early World War 1. The Australian Government, who'd become so parocial about the term 'chips' made it a condition of support to the British Government that the name be changed!!! Otherwise, we won't be there mate... The Poms capitulated and the term 'chips' was adopted universally throughout England and Ireland. Packaging was left to the individual shopkeeper however but it wasn't long before newspaper became the method of choice, due in large part to public opinion.
The Americans, however, still stuck to the original term copied from the French all those years before.:D
keith53
6th February 2006, 11:28 PM
so they wern't a waste product from a pole lathe as previousy thaught:rolleyes:
No, mate. Pole lathes were invented in Poland. The Poles never sighted their first potato till Gengis Khan got there in 1756. He'd accidentally sailed the wrong way and spent a few carefree days in Sydney (where he learned about 'chips'). Took boatloads of them with him, he did. The Poles couldn't get enough of them...:D
Ashore
6th February 2006, 11:34 PM
except in saratoga where a poor widda woman who had lost her husband , though some said he was a french sailor who had run off to fight for the british, and her eldest son Jethro , the only one of her 14 children old enough to bring in a wage had run off and joined some religious cult, trying to feed her family with only one potato sliced it extremely thinly and cooked it in fat , as her french husband had shown her, made the first saratoga potatoes, when along came an Australian Police person named John Smith, trying to track down stolen salt saw how the widda women cooked the thinly sliced potatoes quickly rushed back to Australia , set up a company and produced the first Smiths Crisps, later changed through a typeagraphical error to Smiths Chips
Baz
7th February 2006, 04:36 PM
So what has this to do with woodturning:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Cheers
Barry
echnidna
7th February 2006, 07:28 PM
how do you hold a spud on a woodlathe?
and what grit do you polish it with?
keith53
7th February 2006, 08:36 PM
how do you hold a spud on a woodlathe?
and what grit do you polish it with?
Q1. Very carefully.
Q2. Whatever you like.
:D
Gra
7th February 2006, 08:43 PM
So what has this to do with woodturning:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
Cheers
Barry
Dont you make chips when you turn???:D:D
Driver
7th February 2006, 10:35 PM
Listen, fellas .... whatever it is that you've been drinking ... let us in ....OK? We need to know! :confused:
Cliff Rogers
7th February 2006, 10:40 PM
Col, just hang on to your red.... we need steady types like you. ;)
PS. Mine's a 2002 Jacob's Creek Reserve Cab Sav :D (on specal this week)
Driver
7th February 2006, 10:44 PM
Col, just hang on to your red.... we need steady types like you. ;)
PS. Mine's a 2002 Jacob's Creek Reserve Cab Sav :D (on specal this week)
Can't argue with the selection, Your Cliffness. I'm currently enjoying an Evans & Tate Lionel's Vineyard Cabernet Merlot 2002. (Hic! Wha...?)
Cliff Rogers
7th February 2006, 10:53 PM
Can't argue with the selection, Your Cliffness. I'm currently enjoying an Evans & Tate Lionel's Vineyard Cabernet Merlot 2002. (Hic! Wha...?)
Ooooo.... smooth for a Tuesdasy night; got any left? Mine's empty. :(
Schtoo
8th February 2006, 12:05 AM
Listen, fellas .... whatever it is that you've been drinking ... let us in ....OK? We need to know! :confused:
Of all people, you know not what they drink???
MFKL of course. :eek:
Driver
8th February 2006, 12:11 AM
Of all people, you know not what they drink???
MFKL of course. :eek:
WHAT!!!!
They drink it? :eek: You don't drink MFKL! It's not for drinking! It's for adding lustre!
Hell's Teeth! If they've been drinking it, there's no telling what might be the consequences! Well ... actually... that's not quite true, is it? We now know the consequences. People start spouting strange nonsense about the origins of staple diet items.
Oh dear! :(
Fellas ... don't drink it. Apply it to the tackle. That's how you'll get the most benefit. Really ... I mean ... drinkin MFKL .. Oh! The humanity! :eek:
Schtoo
8th February 2006, 12:18 AM
Could be worse.
The might be frying their potatoes in it...
Well at least they be adding lustre to their lining and lunacy to their lucidity. :D
doug the slug
8th February 2006, 11:14 PM
.....he was a french sailor who had run off to fight.....
A frenchman fighting for anything??? Cr@p
Ashore
8th February 2006, 11:55 PM
Maybe his honour.........er .......his wife......er his wifes honour........er no ...his flag........er ..no he was being paid like their best troops the french foreign legeion ... er..no there not french either.... er ok I lied he ran off to set up a brothel in the french quater in New Orleans the old one having been washed out in a cyclone the year before
Skew ChiDAMN!!
9th February 2006, 12:01 AM
A frenchman fighting for anything??? Cr@p
Maybe he was faced with a heavily unarmed boatload of tree-huggers & dolphin-kissers?
Cliff Rogers
9th February 2006, 12:13 AM
or a sand atol.... :rolleyes:
Kris.Parker1
10th February 2006, 05:41 PM
Ha ha, nice topic. Makes for a good read....
Now where did I put those wood chips?
keith53
10th February 2006, 08:02 PM
or a sand atol.... :rolleyes:
Mate,
Don't get me started. The history of how sandpaper was invented is just as interesting.:D
Oh, I'm sorry, your Cliffness..:D :D
doug the slug
10th February 2006, 10:05 PM
Mate,
Don't get me started. The history of how sandpaper was invented is just as interesting.:D
Oh, I'm sorry, your Cliffness..:D :D
Well i heard that the history of sandpaper is ROUGHLY similarhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gif
Clinton1
14th February 2006, 05:20 PM
Bloody rubbish. As usual, the Yanks reckon they invented everything.
Dontchya know, chips were invented in Collingwood. You see one night down in the Collingwood Arms, this ex-dairy farmer bloke comes in selling some taters that had fallen off the back of a truck.
Anyway, he had bloody big teeth, due to all the milk he drank down on the farm when a young lad. Since the big drought, when the bank kicked him off the land due to bancruptcy he'd been selling teeth to a falsie manufacturer. He'd sold every second tooth in his top jaw.
To cut a long story short, he got a bit fresh with a local lad's missus, and was told "P$$$ off, or I'll knock them bloody pataters down yer neck".
"Give it a go ya mug" he replied.
After the blue, having been knocked all over the place and ending up in the kitchen, he spat out what was left of the taters. They landed in the deep frier, and the rest is history.
Collingwood, Melbourne. Hot bed of invention and birth place of icons that place. Ned Kelly came from there. Its where Prince Charles got into a fight as a young fella, and he sure didn't have big ears before that. The Sydney Opera house design actually came from the architect seeing the pillows what landed on the floor when 'relaxing' in a house of disrepute in Collingwood. And so it goes on.
Rodgera
16th February 2006, 11:47 PM
Dont you make chips when you turn???:D:D
nah, but ya spit chips if ya miss :o :p