What a garbage site facebook is.

[The Spin Doctor]

To start facebook is crap. I've been culling the herd and putting up a lot of tools for sale... Three recent ads has got me banned from selling. The first two were for replaceable blades by Veritas, and one for a 120 year old Preston Mat Cutting Knife... Apparently, I'm selling banned weapons by including the words blade and knife. 😏 Better be careful if I try to sell off any of my wifes sewing kit. Needles will be flagged as drug paraphernalia.
...

Secondly. It's a scammer training ground and if anything fakebook encourages it by literally doing nothing to stop it.

Was being hit with tonnes of scam attempts. I noticed all the attempts come from eastern european accounts that have been compromised, and the rhetoric is that they mostly originate from russia. As a side I've been following the invasion of Ukraine by russia and definitely cheering for the Ukraines... Got me to thinking about the scam and if they did mostly originate from russia, what would be the result of I put a Ukraine flag as one of the pics... Well, wouldn't ya know it. The scam attempts dropped off noticeably LOL

[KBs PensNmore]

I call it Faeces book, because it is full of S**T

[ErrolFlynn]

One of my old car's wipers had a problem. A wrecking yard was advertising. So, I sent the wreckers an email enquiring about what they had. I wanted to ensure we were talking about the right model before paying and having the part sent to me. I was banned from using Marketplace over that one. Though, when I explained my experience to Facebook, and asked them to review the issue I had Marketplace reinstated.

Weirdly though, I don't have the same lineup of features in Facebook, including Marketplace, via Firefox, but when I use it via Chrome everything is there.

[BobL]

I've been undertaking a massive clean up of our house since my wife died 7 months ago.
Over 200 boxes and bags of shoes, clothes, bric-a-brac, kitchen stuff, a dozen pieces of pieces of furniture, and ~10 electrical items have gone to Op shops,

However there are many electrical items (ie don't have the right integral mains plug), or boxes of loose craft stuff, etc that Op shops wont take. I could have just put these in the bin but instead I decided to try and advertise these on FB, most of which were advertised as free items.
For items that I put a price on, all I got were scammers.
For free stuff I'd immediately get dozens of calls and/or messages, but the "buyer" often did not turn up and I sometimes had to contact the 2nd, 3rd or 4th caller to come and get the items.

In the end I pulled all the FB ads and put them on Gumtree where I still got scammers but not as often.
Instead of advertising items for free I'd advertise them for next to nothing, ie $10-$20.
When a buyers says they are interested, i message them that I don't want any money for it and I will leave it on the front veranda to pick up, but if they don't come soon it might get stolen !). Stuff usually goes within a few hours.

Recently I advertised a 100 year old restored blacksmiths vice on GT for $250.
A "buyer" contacted me to ask if it was in "perfect condition" which rang a small bell. When I replied "No, it's not in perfect condition, it's a 100 year old item used in a harsh environment so it has a few chips and dents". The buyer said "no worries I'll take it" and then proceeded to spew the usual scammers spiel!

[Mr Brush]

I recently had to sell my old ICE car after getting an EV - it was 8 years old, relatively high km, and (horror of horrors) a manual. I would have happily donated it to friend's kids as a first car at a bargain price, but none of them can drive stick these days....

Put up ads on a few sites, including Facebook. This just generated every scam under the sun - a complete waste of time. In the end I had to use CarSales (not cheap), but at least this only generated real genuine enquiries, and the car was sold at a good price not one week later.

Facebook has been completely trashed by the low life, and I don't even bother having an account now. Gumtree not quite so bad, but rapidly headed in the same direction IMHO.

[ErrolFlynn]

I'm surprised you weren't troubled on CarSales too. All the car market websites are available to scammers.

The last car I spotted (and bought) was advertised on Facebook. (I noticed later it was also advertised on Gumtree and CarSales.) But I dealt with the people on Facebook primarily. I find Gumtree and CarSales rather slow on the email side. Possibly because most people use their computers for it, and people being people tend to do other things during the day. I just guessing. However, I gather lots of people use Facebook on their phones and people tend to keep their phones close by. From a buyer's perspective, my enquiries went well, followed up on a phone conversation, and then went along to do the deal.

[derekcohen]

I recently advertised an office I own for rent (in West Perth, which has a lot of available offices). I also used Gumtree. I felt that there was no other way of doing this without turning it into an expensive business, and also remaining dependent on agents, who are passive and unlikely to represent my needs as well as I.

For a start, FaceBook has categories for renting apartments, houses, units, but not offices. So I placed the advert in the apartments section and headed it “office for rent”. That passed by the FB police. Still, 50% of the response wanted to rent an apartment (people are desperate for homes and read what they want to read), 25% were scanners, but the remaining 25% were legitimate. Response was the same on Gumtree, although there it was possible to title the advert correctly.

When you want to do it as cheaply and quickly as possible, there are few other options available (in my situation). It was rented eventually to a connection from Gumtree.

Regards from Perth

Derek

[Simplicity]

Ye Facebook gets a lot of flack, and some of it is justified.
But have you guys ever hang out with a bunch of Old moaning know-all’s, ask Ten of them I bet get you 11 answers an a ton of BS.

We advise an use Facebook to generate business, an it works well for us, yes we get some dumb questions,but so does the advertising on the site of the Ute.(We run a handmade business)
Case:

Stopped in town too check the mail box , gentleman probably mid 60s ,approaches me an asks if I would clean his 6 car garage gutters, he’s not allowed on a ladder anymore,told him my price($60 cash that’s cheap for you cheap A…… actually very cheap I would charge a lot more in Melbourne).
An said I could do it after hours.
He then offers me $30, which after business costs is approximately $15, well below minimum wage($21 I think).
Not sure if his gutters still need cleaning!!!

My point is if you don’t like Facebook just bloody scroll on by.

Any of you guys remember the Trading post, I do you advertise on that, an spend the evenings answering calls an telling them too stop dreaming, just like in the Castle.

It docent matter the medium, it still attracts the idiots, do we have any idiots here ?? Maybe ask Neil.

Cheers Matt.

[BobL]

I've had a caravan advertised on Caravansales.com for about 3 weeks and for the $50 I paid for it so far have only had half a dozen enquiries - all scammers.

The same (free) ad in GT has generated about a dozen enquiries but I could only identify 3 as scammers.

[The Spin Doctor]

SNIP

Cheers Matt.

Update. Just put a bunch more stuff up on fakebook and scumtree and have a Ukraine flag as the last pic. And again, not many scumbags trying me on...
Most of the dags can't read english well so they cut n paste, it's getting easy to spot n block on fakebook

I'd sell here but there's too many avenues that people contact you on and it does my head in... Fakebook and scumtree have inhouse messaging and that's it. Makes it easy to keep track of things.

[phild001]

Recently tried marketplace for the first time ever as I have as little to do with Facebook as possible. I was after a coffee machine and the absurd number of ads from scammers defied belief. $1000 machine brand new for $100 with a redirection link. Kept reporting them but they just kept reappearing. I will never bother with marketplace again.
Us mods on Renovate Forum did a good job keeping that type of trash out.

[The Spin Doctor]

Recently tried marketplace for the first time ever as I have as little to do with Facebook as possible. I was after a coffee machine and the absurd number of ads from scammers defied belief. $1000 machine brand new for $100 with a redirection link. Kept reporting them but they just kept reappearing. I will never bother with marketplace again.
Us mods on Renovate Forum did a good job keeping that type of trash out.

That scammer's been around for at least a year. What makes fakebook so bad is the scammer doesn't change a thing. Now I know crapbook has the functionality to filter out pics and specific wording, sentences... and the ability to shadow ban users... but they don't. The scammers been reported hundreds of times and crapbook won't act. But! I post a replacement blade for a hand plane and get suspended because I've trying to sell a weapon. But no one selling an actual kitchen knife get suspended... Effin idiots working for and running the site.

[BMKal]

Apart from woodworking, one of my other interests in life is Land Rovers. I have learned never to even attempt to buy or sell a Land Rover or any parts / accessories etc on either farcebook or scumtree. Both are full of scammers, and farcebook is run by a bunch of complete idiots (as shown in above examples where people have been banned for trying to sell a blade for a plane or similar).

Fortunately, one of the best Land Rover Owners' forums in the world is based here in Australia, and you can buy / sell with confidence on this forum, as well as share technical knowledge and experience with like minded persons. One of the things I have liked most about this Woodworking forum since joining is the similarity between it and the Land Rover forum that I am a member of.

[ErrolFlynn]

I was reminded of this post (https://www.woodworkforums.com/f163/electric-drill-254944) about an old B&D electric drill, and what a beauty it is too.

Then while searching Facebook marketplace for something, I came across an old welder - antique welder was the description. (Yeah, I hate Facebook too, but it has its uses.) I wasn't interested in the welder other than as a historical curio, but I just had to contact the seller. He said it was his father's and his father's before that. And I can believe it. The welder has a label giving the company address in Mascot, NSW. There's a block of flats at that address now.

It'll be a transformer welder, of course. The guy said it still works. I bet it'll still work in a hundred years from now. I reckon those photos are just wonderful.

Sharp eyes will pick up the company phone number: MU2311. It just makes me smile!

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[havabeer69]

you guys do realise most of the bans etc happen from a computer learning words/pictures and just guessing if an item should be banned (or someone reporting it) the sheer volume of ad's on market place (not just here but around the world) could not be vetted by humans.

Under the hood: Facebook Marketplace powered by artificial intelligence (https://ai.facebook.com/blog/under-the-hood-facebook-marketplace-powered-by-artificial-intelligence/)

most of the scams are just auto script bots as well. job sites like "fiver" will even write you a custom one for you which will spit out all the responses you want, and i can only assume gives a notification at a certain level in the scam for a human to take over. So it doesn't matter if you have a Ukrainian flag or a naked lady as your profile pic its just a computer program targeting you.




ask the mods just how many fake profiles and attacks it probably gets in a day,

[ErrolFlynn]

The article notes that “the system also incorporates a model for the buyer, created with embeddings using the demographic information from the person’s Facebook profile.”

[What kind of word is embeddings. I see later the article refers to parallelized net execution, whatever that is. The Yanks have a language all of their own.]

Anyway, in using the person’s profile, I wonder if that means if a guy asks his girlfriend or wife to use the computer to search for something, and if he uses Marketplace while she’s logged into Facebook, and he goes searching for something for the workshop it might come back with items in fitting with his female friend’s Facebook profile. If he searches for a pad for his angle grinder he might have it return a lineup of menstrual pads.

I’ve been using Marketplace a lot recently and having it 'powered by AI' seemed interesting, but it doesn’t seem too intelligent. Maybe it should have a conversation with ChatGPT.

I’ve been looking for a drop saw, some of which fall under the heading of cold saw. Though, a lot of the cold saws that are returned are Brobo or similar makes, which are all 3 phase. (I can wish...) Idea! Try a new search:

“cold saw not 3 phase”

and every item that was returned in the search was a 3 phase saw. Facebook must still be developing the AI.

[BobL]

When I first registered for FB I got heaps of Ads for filipino brides so I decided to change my profile to be female.
No moire bride ads but plenty of sanitary product ads.

Then I install "fluff buster" which eliminated all the FB ads.
I posted some positive things about "fluff buster" and got some security messages which I ignore and eventually got cut off FB completely.

I've been accessing my deceased wife's FB account every week or so for about 7 months. I've have posted multiple times mainly for the benefit os my wife's friends about her passing etc and that I'm the hubby using her account but FB bots haven't done anything about that.

[havabeer69]

The article notes that “the system also incorporates a model for the buyer, created with embeddings using the demographic information from the person’s Facebook profile.”

[What kind of word is embeddings. I see later the article refers to parallelized net execution, whatever that is. The Yanks have a language all of their own.]

Anyway, in using the person’s profile, I wonder if that means if a guy asks his girlfriend or wife to use the computer to search for something, and if he uses Marketplace while she’s logged into Facebook, and he goes searching for something for the workshop it might come back with items in fitting with his female friend’s Facebook profile. If he searches for a pad for his angle grinder he might have it return a lineup of menstrual pads.

I’ve been using Marketplace a lot recently and having it 'powered by AI' seemed interesting, but it doesn’t seem too intelligent. Maybe it should have a conversation with ChatGPT.

I’ve been looking for a drop saw, some of which fall under the heading of cold saw. Though, a lot of the cold saws that are returned are Brobo or similar makes, which are all 3 phase. (I can wish...) Idea! Try a new search:

“cold saw not 3 phase”

and every item that was returned in the search was a 3 phase saw. Facebook must still be developing the AI.


at least you didn't get results of buckets of cabbage and mayo or herpes remedies

[ErrolFlynn]

There’s an auction site near where I live. One of the items up for auction was a couple of caravan extension cords. I was interested as my old one is getting a bit old. I checked out the local stores on the web to see what they were worth before placing any bids. Just to get an idea of prices.

Okay, here’s the thing. I’ve been using Facebook looking for a saw. I’ve been checking daily to see if anything new or interesting comes up. You get used to the lineup of stuff that people are selling. So, now, ever since I checked out the price of that extension cord, every time I do a search for anything on Facebook Marketplace there’s an ad for a caravan extension cord. Annoying.

[Bushmiller]

So, now, ever since I checked out the price of that extension cord, every time I do a search for anything on Facebook Marketplace there’s an ad for a caravan extension cord. Annoying.

EF

I'm afraid that is all part of internet technology. I don't do Facebook: Easy for me because I don't have a mobile phone either :rolleyes:. However, I could still visit from the computer if I was so inclined, but I'm not, having zero interest in divesting confidential information about what I had for breakfast etc. etc..

This targeting of potential customers still reaches me, in spite of my Luddite tendencies. Recently I was discussing the subject of big cats with a friend. We happened to agree that pound for pound the Jaguar was the most impressive and powerful. I deferred to the computer and looked up on my mate Google the statistics for this particular animal. Within fifteen minutes I received advertisements via the newsfeed for Jaguar car spare parts.

The algorithms target your interests and redirect likely products. It is the way of the world. My wife used to rant against advertisements on the TV. I used to point out that she should thank for them as they were paying for her free television. (She never got that). Newspapers were and still are one of the few things you buy for less than it costs to produce, courtesy of the advertisers. These Forums rely heavily on "sponsors,' who in reality are advertisers.

Scammers are a different matter. They are crooks. Watch out for them and report where appropriate.

Regards
Paul

PS: Did you get the extension cord?
PPS: Did you find your saw?

[The Spin Doctor]

you guys do realise most of the bans etc happen from a computer learning words/pictures and just guessing if an item should be banned (or someone reporting it) the sheer volume of ad's on market place (not just here but around the world) could not be vetted by humans.

Under the hood: Facebook Marketplace powered by artificial intelligence (https://ai.facebook.com/blog/under-the-hood-facebook-marketplace-powered-by-artificial-intelligence/)

most of the scams are just auto script bots as well. job sites like "fiver" will even write you a custom one for you which will spit out all the responses you want, and i can only assume gives a notification at a certain level in the scam for a human to take over. So it doesn't matter if you have a Ukrainian flag or a naked lady as your profile pic its just a computer program targeting you.




ask the mods just how many fake profiles and attacks it probably gets in a day,

It goes well beyond that. I've been suspended 4 times from market place because of nothing more than poor word choice. Each one of those suspensions I have to appeal and it goes to a human for scrutiny... 1 was denied, a 120 year old mat cutting knife. The rest were lifted anywhere from 2 to 20 hours later because the idiot scrutinising them could see they were plane blades not knives.

Also, when a scam, that has been on going for months and reported at least a hundred times by separate individuals, it's going to get flagged... But they still do nothing to stop it... In fact, I've notice the scam is spreading to other cities. Same pics, same text, same everything. The scammer doesn't change a thing. Why? Because clearly fakebook doesn't do anything and he knows it... He knows their AI, if that's what's being used, is crap then. It should be programmed to look for such similarities in reported scams and flag them for further investigation by a human...

Doesn't matter how you explain it or slice it. Facebook is $hit, AI or not.

I'm finding better success on gumtree anyways. The scams are really basic and pathetic. They're so bad, they might as well start with THIS IS A SCAM...

And yes the Ukraine flag seems to be working on fakebook. The first couple weeks of attempting to sell stuff. Every ad was hit with one scam pretty soon after it was up. All were from profiles in Eastern Europe. Clearly compromised as they were all older grandparent type folks, with literally everything on their profiles out there for everyone to see... I started putting the Ukraine flag on 3 days ago, on 8 ads. None of those have had scam attempts. You believe what you like, but that's enough for me to continue.

[ErrolFlynn]

I don't have a mobile phone

What, no phone?


How will you be able to cut off your friends mid-conversation when it rings? How will you be able to annoy movie goes by checking your Facebook messages during the film? When you go out for coffee, wouldn’t you rather send messages when sitting at the table than engage in a conversation with a real person?

I have to admit to having one. My partner and I share it. Though, she does hog it at times. And most times when we go out we leave it at home. I buy the cheapest and smallest I can get. The best phone is the one that fits my jean's fob pocket. I laugh when people say I’ll send you a link. It's too pathetic to be able to use the web. I also used to happily walk past people lined up at shop fronts scanning some Q-thingy with their phone during covid days, knowing my phone didn’t do apps.

I also had a weird experience recently with a bank. It got its knickers in a knot when it realised that my partner and I have the same phone number. They just couldn't cope.

I haven’t decided on the extension cord. The bidding hasn’t closed as yet but the price is getting up a bit high. Some people go silly at auctions.

Still looking for a saw. I’ve got my eye on one (on Facebook Marketplace, actually. Oh, dear), and if the owner gets around to contacting me I’ll call around and check it out at the weekend.

[BMKal]

When I first registered for FB I got heaps of Ads for filipino brides so I decided to change my profile to be female.
No moire bride ads but plenty of sanitary product ads.

Then I install "fluff buster" which eliminated all the FB ads.
I posted some positive things about "fluff buster" and got some security messages which I ignore and eventually got cut off FB completely.

I've been accessing my deceased wife's FB account every week or so for about 7 months. I've have posted multiple times mainly for the benefit os my wife's friends about her passing etc and that I'm the hubby using her account but FB bots haven't done anything about that.

I run fluff buster with facebook on firefox as well Bob. It is about the only way I could put up with the site. Facebook does not like people using this add-on and makes their dislike very well known, but who cares what they like.

[woodPixel]

I started putting the Ukraine flag on 3 days ago, on 8 ads. None of those have had scam attempts. You believe what you like, but that's enough for me to continue.

One wouldn't want to be a Russian in Russia being seen potentially communicating with the enemy, or a sympathiser.

It wouldnt look too good! (and a wee bit hard to explain...)

One might have an accident with a 10th story window.

[aldav]

This sponsored ad came up in Facebook Marketplace today. The link leads you to a website, stihlofficial.store, which would appear to have nothing at all to do with Stihl. The whole thing is totally unbelieveable and dodgy as buggery. I can hardly begin to imagine how much money and personal information these p!@#ks are mining from the more gullible amoungst us. :~

[havabeer69]

This sponsored ad came up in Facebook Marketplace today. The link leads you to a website, stihlofficial.store, which would appear to have nothing at all to do with Stihl. The whole thing is totally unbelieveable and dodgy as buggery. I can hardly begin to imagine how much money and personal information these p!@#ks are mining from the more gullible amoungst us. :~

it says "sponsored" under that ad....
meaning a company is paying facebook to put it there.


but yeah its generally rife with knock off shops, there was one selling grizzly or similar american brand roller toolboxes. You instantly know its a scam as all the prices where under $100 and very precise amounts like $98.32. It actually baffles me to believe that the shonks running the websites must make enough out of conning people to pay facebook to promote their shonky website. Facebook obviously doesn't really care as its still advertising revenue for them but its clear that crime does pay.

[The Spin Doctor]

I run fluff buster with facebook on firefox as well Bob. It is about the only way I could put up with the site. Facebook does not like people using this add-on and makes their dislike very well known, but who cares what they like.

I used a couple ad blockers that allow the user to customise and target specific elements. My fakebook is stripped back to the bare minimum now. Same with reddit. I only get the feeds I want to see, and nothing else.

[ErrolFlynn]

PPS: Did you find your saw?

DW871-XE 14 inch Chop Saw - $160 seemed reasonable.

526826

I rushed out to Bunnings to put a new disk in. It was 3 mm thick. Is that standard? It's just I've heard of thinner disks around. I couldn't find any while shopping. Perhaps it's not possible to have anything thinner with larger disks.

Oh, yeah. Bought it using Facebook. Couldn't find anything else in my area in other sites that I wanted. So, yeah, Facebook has its uses, despite my hating the way the people run it.

[Hodgo]

I'm not a big facebook user, but I like marketplace for selling and buying, I only just bought a Dinghy with outboard yesterday

I bought a lot of bulky tools that required a 1 hr drive to pick up (dewalt thicknesser, various triton things ,a drill press and several pieces of furniture to name a few)

I have sold everything I've advertised with good results

admittedly there's some a@#$holes out there that will try it on with the "my sister will pick it up, put the money in your a/c routine" etc

you do have to have your wits about you, I will only buy/sell in person for cash and nobody gets my address unless they make an appointment
generally you can work out a persons character and honesty by communicating on line and in person

its good in the sense that you can keep the search as local as you want it to be

gumtree and other platforms can be every bit as dodgy in my opinion

just my 2c

Hodgo

[BobL]

DW871-XE 14 inch Chop Saw - $160 seemed reasonable.

526826

I rushed out to Bunnings to put a new disk in. It was 3 mm thick. Is that standard? It's just I've heard of thinner disks around. I couldn't find any while shopping. Perhaps it's not possible to have anything thinner with larger disks..

Correct.

In clearing my recently deceased wife's stuff I've advertised several dozens of the same thing on FB and GT.
I've have had nothing but scammers on FB, whereas about 30% of enquiries on GT have been scammers.
Have since pulled all my ads from FB - i'm sick of them.

[The Spin Doctor]

This sponsored ad came up in Facebook Marketplace today. The link leads you to a website, stihlofficial.store, which would appear to have nothing at all to do with Stihl. The whole thing is totally unbelieveable and dodgy as buggery. I can hardly begin to imagine how much money and personal information these p!@#ks are mining from the more gullible amoungst us. :~

I use a couple ad blockers that catch all of the ads on shytebook marketplace. Adguard allows you to target specific elements, such as those ads, if they get through... Over the years I've heard a few say you shouldn't have more than one ad blocker but my experience is to have a couple. One catches most and the other catches the rest. My browsing the internet is very sterile, I don't see any ads on fakebook or reddit...

[The Spin Doctor]

Just a slight update...

It was posed that the scams are generated by bots on fakebook... My first 10 or so ads drew lots of scams. They tapered off when I added the Ukraine flag... But that really wasn't conclusive...

Since then I took a break from farcebook and pulled all the ads. I started up again a couple weeks later and have at least 35 (not including what's sold and taken down) things up for sale, all with the Ukraine flag as the last pic. I've only had one scam attempt, from an account out of Italy. It's also the same for bumtree. Same number of ads and I think I may have had two scam attempts when asked if still available (when it clearly says don't ask that).


So take that for whatever it's worth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[havabeer69]

Just a slight update...

It was posed that the scams are generated by bots on fakebook... My first 10 or so ads drew lots of scams. They tapered off when I added the Ukraine flag... But that really wasn't conclusive...

Since then I took a break from farcebook and pulled all the ads. I started up again a couple weeks later and have at least 35 (not including what's sold and taken down) things up for sale, all with the Ukraine flag as the last pic. I've only had one scam attempt, from an account out of Italy. It's also the same for bumtree. Same number of ads and I think I may have had two scam attempts when asked if still available (when it clearly says don't ask that).


So take that for whatever it's worth ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

well, scientifically you need to change you profile pic and see if suddenly you get scammed again. I mean if its as simple as changing your profile pic tell the rest of facebook so it stops happening.

[rambunctious]

I have bought and sold on fakebook marketplace, sold some insulation this morning.
Never had a problem either way.
Got an ad from some gutter cleaning mob yesterday,
Simple delete fixed that.

[woodPixel]

a curiously timely article: Victims speak out over ‘tsunami’ of fraud on Instagram, Facebook and WhatsApp | Meta | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2023/jun/16/victims-speak-out-over-fraud-on-instagram-facebook-and-whatsapp)

On other sales, I'm selling a few smaller non-woodworking things on Gumtree (grow lights) and enquiries are ZERO...... nil.

Seems sales have... stopped?

[smidsy]

I've had 3 hate speech bans for using the word "pom" conversationally.
Years ago in Aus a guy took a media company to court for using the word in an advert claiming it was rascist.
The high court of Australia found that the word is a slang term and not rascist in any way, shape or form.

[Chief Tiff]

I'm a Pom but as a citizen I identify as an Australian.

[ErrolFlynn]

I had to pick up a piece of furniture on Sat. I wouldn't fit between the wheel arches of my ute. Checked both Gumtree and Facebook for people giving away pallets. Gumtree had very few advertised, but there were heaps on Facebook. Drove out to the address (a warehouse) and heaved a couple in the back. Fixed. Facebook has its uses. Always had good luck with Marketplace.

[The Spin Doctor]

I've had 3 hate speech bans for using the word "pom" conversationally.
Years ago in Aus a guy took a media company to court for using the word in an advert claiming it was rascist.
The high court of Australia found that the word is a slang term and not rascist in any way, shape or form.


You'll like this one. I just got an ad suspended for putting a 100 year old clay brood egg on marketplace. I get the impression zuckerbergs bots are programmed by 2 year olds slapping the screen on an ipad.

[Bushmiller]

I'm a Pom but as a citizen I identify as an Australian.

CT

Pom is an anacronym, albeit slightly abbreviated from pome

"Prisoner of Mother England."

At least, this is what I thought it meant from the days of transportation.

A quick delve through the internet did not yield a clear confirmation. Before any racist cries begin I should confess to being a pome (b?), although I have lived in Oz for forty three years, which is now quite a lot longer than I resided in the UK. I too identify with Australian culture and if I followed sports, which I don't, I would barrack for Oz.

Regards
Paul

[havabeer69]

CT

Pom is an anacronym, albeit slightly abbreviated from pome

"Prisoner of Mother England."

At least, this is what I thought it meant from the days of transportation.

A quick delve through the internet did not yield a clear confirmation. Before any racist cries begin I should confess to being a pome (b?), although I have lived in Oz for forty three years, which is now quite a lot longer than I resided in the UK. I too identify with Australian culture and if I followed sports, which I don't, I would barrack for Oz.

Regards
Paul

I need to get to specsavers, I thought you and smidsy where talking about , couldn't quite work out how you got "prisoner of mother England" from the letters.