20/20 cricket better than 50/50 [Archive]

redwood

9th January 2006, 08:14 PM

This is a silly game but so much better than boring 50/50, How good is Ponting at the moment and Marto should be back in the test team ...... cant wait till Crusty strides out to the crease:eek: and how come south africans get to wear the green and gold? and we get gastly colors

Wood Butcher

9th January 2006, 08:35 PM

and how come south africans get to wear the green and gold?
not entirely sure, nut Ihave a feeling that part of the terms that they play is that they get to wear the country colours. I don't think that the ACB give a stuff as long as they get to play.

Certainly interesting to watch. Currently 14th over with a run rate of 10 per over.

Cliff Rogers

9th January 2006, 09:04 PM

...... cant wait till Crusty strides out to the crease:eek: and ....

I think the fat lady just sang.... where is Gumby now? :D

Grunt

9th January 2006, 09:05 PM

Kind of fun but hardly cricket.

I tend to agree that most 1 day are boring with the occasional pearler. They should just play more test cricket.

redwood

9th January 2006, 09:16 PM

Kind of fun but hardly cricket.

I tend to agree that most 1 day are boring with the occasional pearler. They should just play more test cricket.

get rid og 50/50 and reduce it to 30/30 and play two 4 test series here each summer... now we are bowling in this game im bored. :o

Cliff Rogers

9th January 2006, 09:57 PM

.... now we are bowling in this game im bored. :o

just 'cos they aren't loosing fast enough?

redwood

9th January 2006, 10:15 PM

just 'cos they aren't loosing fast enough?

its either hit & giggle or bowl & b bored... Roll on the Ashes:D

Cliff Rogers

9th January 2006, 10:36 PM

38,89t something spectators in the crowd, a record for that ground, and on a Monday night...... :confused:

Some body picked a winner. :D

It is not bad for a quick fix of cricket & that was the 'B' team. :cool:

ivanavitch

9th January 2006, 11:27 PM

40,000 bums on seats. $25? a seat makes a cool mil. Guess who really won.

Now watch them kill the golden goose. It was OK for a distraction, but as redwood said... "Roll on the Ashes".

Cliff Rogers

9th January 2006, 11:45 PM

40,000 bums on seats. $25? a seat makes a cool mil. Guess who really won.......

If there was a record crowd at the ground, guess how many more were watching the idiot box!!!! :cool:

silentC

10th January 2006, 08:39 AM

I think it's just typical of modern society and it's short attention span. What's next? 30 minute halves? Sorry, but it just isn't cricket.

namtrak

10th January 2006, 08:45 AM

I dont think it will last. Sure they can support big crowds, but the big crowds won't keep coming if the games aren't competitive. Like the one against the Poms this one was over at half time

Maybe they could reduce it from 20/20 to 1/1 and play 20 games in one night. We could have a whole season in a weekend. Just think some players could play out their whole careers in one season of weekends!!

bitingmidge

10th January 2006, 09:05 AM

Sorry, but it just isn't cricket.
Of course it's not, but who said it was.

Like 50 overs, it's a fun GAME, and really entertaining. Better still was the ABC commentary with Kezza and Jimmy Maher going at it head to head.

At one point Skull asked if it was really a JJJ broadcast they were doing, because he reckoned it may be the last one they did on grown-up radio!

cheers,

P
:D

redwood

10th January 2006, 09:06 AM

I dont think it will last. Sure they can support big crowds, but the big crowds won't keep coming if the games aren't competitive.

as much as its not cricket it will eventualy take over from 50over rubish. people can wander in from work see 40 fast overs of bowl and bash have a few beers relax and get home in time for a reasonably early night. Test cricket is the ONLY cricket. 50 over rott is at its biggest on the sub continant and if they do form a break away group like whats suspected then the rest of us might in a few years eventualy go the 20/20 way and ditch the 50 stuff:rolleyes:

silentC

10th January 2006, 09:11 AM

Like 50 overs, it's a fun GAME, and really entertaining.
Well, it's like the "would of" "would have" argument. We can either have standards and principles, or to hell with the lot. Is nothing sacred?

Why bother playing the game at all? They could just decide it on the toss.

Andy Mac

10th January 2006, 09:25 AM

I watched some of it and listened on the shed radio a bit...it was mildly entertaining, seemed a bit like tip 'n' run when I was a kid:D . A slogfest and probably a lot of fun for the batters, but bowling looked a real chore. Redwood's suggestion of combining it with the 50-over version, 30-30 instead has some merit, as I think this could get real boring.
I'm not convinced, why have a TV dinner when you could have a real home-cooked feast, 3-5 courses?! :p Because its quick and easy, no thinking involved.

Cheers

bitingmidge

10th January 2006, 09:29 AM

Why bother playing the game at all? They could just decide it on the toss.

That game's already taken.

It's called Two-Up.

P
:D :D :D

CameronPotter

10th January 2006, 01:32 PM

I have no problem with Twenty20 as a concept, BUT...

I don't think that it should be international, but it should stay as a somestic competition. There are several good reasons for this:

1. It isn't cricket.
2. It is very popular, leading into my third point...
3. It would give some much needed support to the domestic competition, both in crowds and money.

People's favourite Twenty20 player may well be a state player who is yet to be in the international squad. It would bring more interest to the next level which should boost general interest in cricket.

Why not pitch it at a similar level to Aussie Rules/Rugby? ie Local teams play and it is on the telly every Friday night (could even have multiple teams from each state).

Aussie Rules just sold their rights for a staggering amount of money, and it isn't even really Australia-wide, although many people like to pretend that it is...

I reckon keep Twenty20, but leave it to the domestic level and get some grassroots "cricket" interest going.

bennylaird

10th January 2006, 01:42 PM

Just needs a few slight rule changes:

Tippity runs.
Out of the ground is out.
Use a tennis ball.
Out first bounce.
Played on Xmas day after lunch instead of boxing day.
Pitch changed to sand etc.

redwood

10th January 2006, 01:43 PM

I reckon keep Twenty20, but leave it to the domestic level and get some grassroots "cricket" interest going.

20/20 is great for grass roots. the ACB surveyd junior cricketers on who they wanted to represent Aust in cricket - one dayers or test. the majority of under tens wanted to play one dayers and when the kids got to 15 or 16 that totaly swung to test cricket. if more familys and kids get into 20/20 and the kids develope a lust for the game it can only help in the long term. 100 over matches are a bore to me and it was good to see some slog fest last night and get it over in a few hours. little kiddys would think the same... roll on the ashes:D

CameronPotter

10th January 2006, 01:50 PM

Yep Redwood, that is exactly what I was getting at, start people on 20/20, then let them progress to test cricket when they are ready.

As for the Ashes - I absolutely can't wait.

Cam

silentC

10th January 2006, 01:50 PM

Cliff Rogers

10th January 2006, 02:15 PM

The old pharts can't stand the excitement. :rolleyes:

CameronPotter

10th January 2006, 02:21 PM

Yeah, we have this Auskick thing which is something like 2 10 minute halves for the kiddies. Just to teach them the ball skills etc. The difference here is we are talking about professional cricketers.

The wheelie bin behind the wicket is an electric wicky.

The thing is that I am not talking about getting them to PLAY the game, that is what kanga cricket/Milo Have a Go/twilight cricket is about. I am talking about getting people interested, but note, I am also saying that it should be kept for domestic cricket so that their profile is raised somewhat.

Rossluck

10th January 2006, 02:24 PM

I don't mind 20/20, but it has one element that has always annoyed me in 50 over games: the terrible "thunky" sound of the miss - hit. I'm as capable as any real cricket fan of watching every minute of a test from start to finish, but I think there's room for letting off steam occasionally with a bit of a hit out. Surely the highlight of last night was watching Damien Martyn metaphorically smashing the selectors around the park ....

silentC

10th January 2006, 02:24 PM

I am talking about getting people interested
Yeah but do we really want those sorts of people becoming interested in cricket? I mean, can't they just watch baseball or something?

CameronPotter

10th January 2006, 02:38 PM

Yeah but do we really want those sorts of people becoming interested in cricket? I mean, can't they just watch baseball or something?

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

But eventually, that person might grow up into a proper cricket fan...

Also, while they are going to 20/20, they are still financially supporting Cricket Australia, and thus the test team.

redwood

10th January 2006, 04:26 PM

Yeah, we have this Auskick thing which is something like 2 10 minute halves for the kiddies. Just to teach them the ball skills etc. .

i hear eddie wants collingwood admited into auskick so they and bucks can finally win a final :eek:

Grunt

10th January 2006, 06:36 PM

Yeah but do we really want those sorts of people becoming interested in cricket? I mean, can't they just watch baseball or something?

Many people who started watching 1 day cricket became fans of the longer game after a few years. If it is bringing in new people to watch the game then it is a good thing.

Studley 2436

10th January 2006, 07:08 PM

Well I thought it was pretty good. Lots happenning the game is over in a few hours. It is fun! It is still cricket just not test cricket nothing can change that.

It is a great way also to give players a go who are not in the test team and see what they can do.

It was fun and athletic I liked it

Studley

silentC

11th January 2006, 08:38 AM

Many people who started watching 1 day cricket became fans of the longer game after a few years. If it is bringing in new people to watch the game then it is a good thing.
Nah, I just don't think that people who are attracted to 20/20 have the character or moral fibre to become fans of test cricket ;)

craigb

11th January 2006, 09:04 AM

Nah, I just don't think that people who are attracted to 20/20 have the character or moral fibre to become fans of test cricket ;)

Oh I dunno. Some of them must surely.

Say one in 39,000 :D