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doug3030
22nd January 2023, 09:31 AM
I just watched a video about lock mitre router bits.
At the end of the video it referred me to the manufacturer's Facebook page, so naturally I searched for "Infinity Cutting Tools"
521775
Now I am wondering which of those three ordinary everyday words has caused this response from the Social Media platform or is it something in the context of those three words together that is the problem.
I worry about the future of the human race.
I wonder how they let Infinity Cutting Tools register a page with such a dangerous name in the first place.
Before anyone calls me insensitive, as an Army Veteran I am as aware as anyone about mental health issues but considering that this is a search for a page that FB have allowed on their site (and probably charge them money for) this is way over the top.
Hodgo
22nd January 2023, 09:38 AM
I just watched a video about lock mitre router bits.
At the end of the video it referred me to the manufacturer's Facebook page, so naturally I searched for "Infinity Cutting Tools"
521774
Now I am wondering which of those three ordinary everyday words has caused this response from the Social Media platform or is it something in the context of those three words together that is the problem.
I worry about the future of the human race.
I wonder how they let Infinity Cutting Tools register a page with such a dangerous name in the first place.
Before anyone calls me insensitive, as an Army Veteran I am as aware as anyone about mental health issues but considering that this is a search for a page that FB have allowed on their site (and probably charge them money for) this is way over the top.
link doesn't work, is it dodgy
doug3030
22nd January 2023, 09:40 AM
link doesn't work, is it dodgy
Reuploaded it - try now
Hodgo
22nd January 2023, 09:54 AM
thats pretty weird
my online scrabble game wont allow the word noose/s for its possible connotations involving self harm
Hodgo
BMKal
22nd January 2023, 01:11 PM
Farcebook has been "moderated" by a bunch of self-important morons for a long time now. Time for somebody like Elon Musk to buy them out and go through the place like a dose of epsom salts.
China
22nd January 2023, 03:16 PM
And people wonder why I don't use FaceBook
Bushmiller
22nd January 2023, 06:06 PM
Facebook? Facebook?
I will continue my search for a book wrapped in a dust cover depicting a large.....eh..Face.:rolleyes:
Regards
Paul
malb
22nd January 2023, 10:44 PM
I'm a member of an old truck group on FB, and also interested in old aircraft and aviation history. About two weeks ago, someone in the group posted a picture of a 1930's Thornycroft truck out in central Australia and someone commented "Back in the good old days."
I replied that the two airmen whose plane had landed in the Tanami due to a rocker arm becoming mis adjusted and who died while trying to clear enough scrub to get back in the air would possibly not share the opinion expressed. The guy I replied to then came back with a query about whether the pic was related to an aircraft accident.
I wrote a factual explanation that the pic was the truck sent from Adelaide to travel into the Tanami and recover the bodies of the two airmen and bring them back for funerals, and mentioned that amongst a range of truck spares, fuel drums, water and provisions for a trip of about a month duration, the truck was carrying two lead lined coffins for the airmen.
FB declined to accept this as a reply/comment because it contained keywords that the autocensor would not accept, presumably any or all of died, body, recovery, or coffin. No attempt to consider context as such, just a blanket rejection because of some keyword, and an option to edit comment to eliminate the keywords, but no indication of which word(s) were the trigger.
rwbuild
23rd January 2023, 09:03 AM
Farce....book :((
jack620
23rd January 2023, 09:36 AM
Now I am wondering which of those three ordinary everyday words has caused this response from the Social Media platform or is it something in the context of those three words together that is the problem.
The word "cutting" obviously. The page in your screenshot refers to self-harm. Cutting is a common form of self-harm. The page offers the viewer a link to "get help". TBH, I really don't see the problem. Be grateful you don't need the help, click Continue, and move on with your life.
Mobyturns
23rd January 2023, 12:48 PM
The "algorithms" get blamed for everything.
If you want to have some fun, use a word likely to be linked to a "sponsors" product line in Messenger then see how long it takes for adverts from that sponsor to appear in your FB feed. :rolleyes:
Zuc's "algorithms" read everything, so do Googles!
Quite a while back PP & I were chatting in Messenger about the grader that he made. Being a surveyor, I suggested that his model wasn't complete as it was missing the GPS antennas for machine guidance. Within minutes I had ads from Leica (survey) and CAT (the grader.)
Bushmiller
23rd January 2023, 11:40 PM
Actually, algorithms are everywhere. A friend and I were discussing which of the large cats we thought was the most impressive. We looked up some data on lions, tigers, leopards, cheetahs and jaguars.
Inside of fifteen minutes I was receiving ads for Jaguar car spare parts. It also somehow knew I couldn't afford a new one and jumped to the conclusion that I must be repairing an old one! :rolleyes:
Regards
Paul
havabeer69
23rd January 2023, 11:47 PM
how dare that FREE platform try and control morons who post all kinds violence, sex and gore all over it etc try and control it, yep some thing get caught in the cross fire, but again as you're and end user of google, facebook, instgram etc etc you actually pay zero money for it.
I remember watching a video recently a guy who's Instagram channel got shut down because it accidently got flagged for human trafficking, and it actually lost him a lot of sponsors and a heap of followers (so started costing him money) he had to pretty much use his audience, who someone ended up knowing someone at facebook to get it reviewed to get his channel back up and running. but its definitely a big risk to rely on these free social media platforms for your income when it can be taken away rather instantly with no real explination.
this is the video, its kind of long but you can skip to the 7min mark and not miss out on much
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8ejmt5GKAQ
doug3030
24th January 2023, 12:12 PM
Inside of fifteen minutes I was receiving ads for Jaguar car spare parts. It also somehow knew I couldn't afford a new one and jumped to the conclusion that I must be repairing an old one! :rolleyes:
If you can't afford a new one you would have no hope of affording to repair an old one.
BMKal
24th January 2023, 01:02 PM
Inside of fifteen minutes I was receiving ads for Jaguar car spare parts. It also somehow knew I couldn't afford a new one and jumped to the conclusion that I must be repairing an old one! :rolleyes:
Regards
Paul
If you can't afford a new one you would have no hope of affording to repair an old one.
Yep - I called the Jaguar Land Rover dealership in Perth a couple of days ago to chase up a new front indicator globe for my LR Discovery. They didn't have any in stock, but could get them in from the eastern states - price including freight would be $101 EACH. For a bloody indicator globe - they've got to be joking. I have some coming from overseas for a fraction of the cost. :~
Bohdan
24th January 2023, 02:01 PM
Years ago needed a fuel filter for my fuel injected Range Rover. Went to the dealer and was quoted well over a hundred dollars for one.
Asked about one for a Discovery, same engine, same fuel filter, price was about half.
On further examination of the one in my car, pulled the RR sticker off to reveal that it was a Bosch filter as fitted to Fords.
Available for about $20.
The price of spare parts is based on a percentage of the retail price of the car.
The ACCC investigated this pricing gouge and concluded that it was a fair and reasonable system. :doh:
D.W.
26th July 2023, 08:00 AM
Years ago needed a fuel filter for my fuel injected Range Rover. Went to the dealer and was quoted well over a hundred dollars for one.
Asked about one for a Discovery, same engine, same fuel filter, price was about half.
On further examination of the one in my car, pulled the RR sticker off to reveal that it was a Bosch filter as fitted to Fords.
Available for about $20.
The price of spare parts is based on a percentage of the retail price of the car.
The ACCC investigated this pricing gouge and concluded that it was a fair and reasonable system. :doh:
Not sure about the laws there vs. here (the states), but at one point, my wife had a VW with coil over plug setup for ignition. Those are easy enough to work on but early 2000s, some cars would go through them at one a year minimum. I would fix them (should say I did), but the first attempt to fix one led to me going to the parts counter to get a part. Low inventory - but I managed to get one. Of course, the least reliable parts and most in demand are those that run short the most often until the parts companies get a sense of just how much demand there will be.
At any rate, next time around, a year or so later, I went online to an OEM parts place in ohio that specialize in VW and fortunately, they had genuine VW parts stocked and I purchased one. These were probably also bosch parts, but I can't remember - it's it's bosch, it will break. First your wallet, then itself.
$45 (about $70 or so in current dollars) for the VW variety, $90 for the same identical part for an audi and $132 for a mercedes.
All parts the same, but with a slightly different top connector. Literally, the molded plastic shape on the top tip prevents people in the upper ranges from getting the same part. Follows what you say, but I knew that at the time as the standard service items were also between 3 and 10 times as high for the premium brands. I'm guessing those services are gone now, but the BMW 30k mile service for some cars was 3 grand. One would guess it involved changing the oil, changing some air filters and then "checking" about 100 things and doing very little.
It was something stupid for VW itself, like $700, but just a glorified oil and air filter change. I bought the service manual instead and skipped it and only changed things that actually needed to be changed by the service manual and update bulletin schedules.
The coil over plug modules were cheaply made, but they generally are. Some of the ones I've seen since have switched the columns to heat resistant plastic. I often wondered when I changed one in the wife's car or a later toyota in about 10 minutes including code reading to find which cylinder was responsible - how much does someone with a misfire on cylinder 3 on their mercedes pay when they bring their car in and get the coil over plug fixed. $132 was the parts price. The service ticket part cost would be marked up 100-300% of that in the US typically. And I'm sure there would be labor plus diagnostic. For <10 minutes of a tech's time and a part that probably wholesales for VW at $20 or less, the mercedes buyer probably got stuck with $600. Only to return again in a year when another cylinder did the same.
D.W.
26th July 2023, 08:06 AM
well, to my pleasant surprise, the online estimators now say that the expected cost for a benz ignition coil replacement (at an independent mechanic) is $171-$300. Could be worse. Aftermarket coils are all over the place for about the cost of most other cars.
I wonder how much grief MB and others got over some of that stuff, and am genuinely curious as to why they backed off on the cost of something routine like that.
david.elliott
26th July 2023, 06:19 PM
Watched Furious Driving YT last week doing a short on changing a Mini Clubman globe...38 POUNDS...
My favourite YT mechanic is in upstate New York. Lady came in with a 1 year old Chevy something with a non functioning brake light. Easy says Eric, I'll change the bulb. Nope, whole light unit is LED and sealed. USD740.00
D.W.
27th July 2023, 11:27 AM
GM and Ford's argument against the japanese brands used to be that they'd be cheap to repair when repair was needed. For some reason, Chrysler hasn't followed that for a long time.
I guess GM and ford have decided that they'll no longer do that, but even Toyota here is now making turds, and hyundai/kia has managed to make engines that suddenly have oil consumption issues but don't warn you.
I know the latter because for four cylinders, it's public knowledge. It supposedly didn't apply to 6 cylinders, but the mrs. had a santa fe gls for a while, which had the otherwise wonderful 290hp 3.3DI motor. At 80k miles, it suddenly started consuming oil faster and only because I heard it creak did I know that within a month, it had gotten to 1.5 quarts on a 6.3 capacity sump!!
And then on the way back from a long trip monitoring the actual oil consumption, a tractor trailer hit us in the snow on the interstate and wiped us off of the road eliminating worrying about that any longer (fortunately, nobody hurt, but car destroyed).
At any rate, GM and ford used to have a lot of crap here but a couple of models that would go and go. For ford, it was the mazda partnership V6 rangers and the panther platform that could rival a mechanical mercedes for longevity (back when benz was a well made car made by engineers). For GM, the pickups were super until about 12 years ago, and...I'm struggling to think of anything else, but I'm sure there was something....oh the buick century platform and the 3800 platform cars a size up. Fantastic.
I guess that stuff has been lost to the idea that reliability is something to boast about vs. a threat to revenue on the repair side.