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dave_c
1st January 2023, 01:50 PM
HI All, Having recently watch a few videos from high end table makers Black Forest Wood co and Blacktail studio in the USA they use a wipe on ceramic coating over the top of their finish. Does any one know if this type of product is available in Australia?

derekcohen
1st January 2023, 03:35 PM
Dave, try the car shops that specialise in cleaning products. I got some (for my car) from one. Sorry, cannot recall whom. It rejuvenated plastic trim from sun-bleached grey back to black.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Simplicity
1st January 2023, 09:07 PM
Dave, try the car shops that specialise in cleaning products. I got some (for my car) from one. Sorry, cannot recall whom. It rejuvenated plastic trim from sun-bleached grey back to black.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Just be mindful some of the Auto polishing cleaning products can have a high silicone content.
Not all, but some especially the plastic rejuvenating stuff.

Silicon is evil around other finishing products.

Cheers Matt.

derekcohen
2nd January 2023, 12:36 AM
Information here: What is Ceramic Coating? (https://www.supercheapauto.com.au/blog/car-cleaning/what-is-ceramic.html)

Regards from Perth

Derek

Jeffen
2nd January 2023, 12:38 AM
Further to Matt's point - are the auto products solvent based? will this affect the underlying finish?

Obviously it depends on the product, but something to consider.

Jeff

Beardy
2nd January 2023, 05:48 AM
In car auto products Ceramic Coating is a bit of a marketing buzz word. The true ceramic coatings cannot be kept in plastic containers so you will find it in small glass or metal bottles and typically cost $100 plus for a 30ml bottle which is enough to coat a car.
Gyeon Q2 is one of the more common brands

Simplicity
2nd January 2023, 09:16 AM
Further to Matt's point - are the auto products solvent based? will this affect the underlying finish?

Obviously it depends on the product, but something to consider.

Jeff

Auto paint an clears are solvent based yes, but the polishes an waxes are not.(Actually I’ve never thought too ask that, but I’m fairly certain there not an I don’t want too be wrong this year [emoji6]).

Cheers Matt.

derekcohen
2nd January 2023, 11:49 AM
In car auto products Ceramic Coating is a bit of a marketing buzz word. The true ceramic coatings cannot be kept in plastic containers so you will find it in small glass or metal bottles and typically cost $100 plus for a 30ml bottle which is enough to coat a car.
Gyeon Q2 is one of the more common brands

Gyeon Q2 is the product I used. A little goes a long way.

Regards from Perth

Derek

havabeer69
2nd January 2023, 05:53 PM
HI All, Having recently watch a few videos from high end table makers Black Forest Wood co and Blacktail studio in the USA they use a wipe on ceramic coating over the top of their finish. Does any one know if this type of product is available in Australia?


whats your reason for wanting it? it seemed pretty expensive (due to importing from america) watched it a while ago now but I couldn't quite work out what extra benefits it gave when finishing wood

BMKal
3rd January 2023, 01:51 PM
In car auto products Ceramic Coating is a bit of a marketing buzz word. The true ceramic coatings cannot be kept in plastic containers so you will find it in small glass or metal bottles and typically cost $100 plus for a 30ml bottle which is enough to coat a car.
Gyeon Q2 is one of the more common brands

Not necessarily the case. The reason for storing in glass / metal containers is NOT the ceramic component of the coating, but the type and ratio of solvent that it is mixed with.
There are now some good ceramic coatings out there which are quite safely stored in plastic - and yes - they still cost somewhere well north of $100 for a single car application kit.

I have found that autoglym ceramic coating works very well on my 4WD and I believe that Maguires product would be very similar - both are stored in a small plastic bottle.
I haven't tried this product on wood / epoxy resin yet, but may give it a go on the outside of some pepper grinding mills that I'm working on at the moment.

Beardy
3rd January 2023, 05:16 PM
Not necessarily the case. The reason for storing in glass / metal containers is NOT the ceramic component of the coating, but the type and ratio of solvent that it is mixed with.
There are now some good ceramic coatings out there which are quite safely stored in plastic - and yes - they still cost somewhere well north of $100 for a single car application kit.

I have found that autoglym ceramic coating works very well on my 4WD and I believe that Maguires product would be very similar - both are stored in a small plastic bottle.
I haven't tried this product on wood / epoxy resin yet, but may give it a go on the outside of some pepper grinding mills that I'm working on at the moment.

The products you are referring to are good and I use them too but they are still considered DiY level in the automotive industry
No idea how any of these perform on coated timber though