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Sir Stinkalot
18th December 2005, 12:29 PM
Is there a water based paint that can be used for skirtings, architraves and windows that has the same protective and high gloss properties as enamel paints?

bitingmidge
18th December 2005, 12:39 PM
Yes.

Is it as glossy? No.

You need to go to the water based polyurethene's to come close, but anyone who thinks they are more than a glossy satin are kidding themselves.

OK, they may be more than that, but they ain't a brilliant shiny super gloss.

It used to be possible to buy a sample pack of Aquacote, at http://www.boatcraft.com.au so why not give us a go, and do a full consumer report???

Go on Stinks, someone has to do it.....

Cheers,

P
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scooter
18th December 2005, 12:39 PM
Stinky, someone (Dulux I think) make a waterbased high gloss for this stuff called Aquanamel.

We used it for skirts & arcs in part of our house, it levelled out OK & left a good gloss for most of the job, I can't remember if it was warm or the paint just needed thinning a bit (in retrospect) but some of it didn't level out as well, left brush marks.

I understand the appeal of waterbased and was stuck on them originally, but when we repainted our kitchen (60's weatherboard home) we decided against the waterbased and used proper enamel for the first time, and we were rapt in the finished job, despite the fiddlier cleanup etc.

Can't remember about thinning the Aquanamel, maybe could have added small amount of water, or some floetrol for better levelling out.

HTH...........cheers.............Sean

bitingmidge
18th December 2005, 12:49 PM
Sorry, Scooter is right, I was concentrating on the "Protective qualities" bit.

Enamel just hasn't been replaced for general trim purposes, despite the ads telling you otherwise.

cheers,

P

Sir Stinkalot
18th December 2005, 01:03 PM
Thanks guys .... I always thought that the enamel was the go. I have been using it but I have found that it takes days to dry and I hate the cleanup. The paint that I was using was very thick and after about 1/2hr of painting my hands were super stucky and the brush became clogged.

What is the better quality high gloss white enamels to try?

bitingmidge
18th December 2005, 01:30 PM
Thin slightly with Turps, only dip the end of the brush in the paint, (It's a brush not a broom!!).

You shouldn't be getting any paint more than 2/3's the way up the bristles, what ARE you doing?? :eek:

Use the best quality brush you can find, but be prepared for sticker shock!

Cheers,

P
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tonyjune
19th December 2005, 12:14 AM
I have found that a lot of the old tricks have been lost since the advent of water-based paints.
Try adding penetrol to your enamel paint. It makes the paint go further, stops your brush from clagging, and allows the paint to flow, therefore eliminating the brush marks.
Tony.

scooter
19th December 2005, 09:41 PM
The enamel we used was dulux, I think it's called super enamel.

Further to suggestions already, only tip a small quantity out of the tin into your working container, then seal the tin - stops the lot drying out.

If larger areas to do such as cupboard doors, consider rolling paint out with a trim roller and "tipping off" (ie. over brushing) lightly with the brush. Roller can be covered in gladwrap or stuck in a ziplock bag to stop it drying between doors.


Cheers................Sean

soundman
19th December 2005, 11:03 PM
Resene a kiwi company make a product called "Enamacril" which is water based and is designed as an enamel replacement.

I've been doing some experiments with it & it looks promising.
it is quite durable very low odour and dries reasonably quickly.
& once its off its off.
unlike enamel which takes weeks to go off properly.

It not cheap in comparison to other paint though.

there is a satin version called "lustercril" and a compatable undercoat.

One of my associates has done some considerable work spraying it & it is looking quite good there too.

This is a completely different type of paint to anything else I have seen or used and has its own little habits but once you have its habits sorted it has many advantages over other alternatives.

you can get 500mL pots so its worth a try.
cheers