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The Spin Doctor
29th December 2021, 08:53 PM
I don't and never intend on having a google account... Without a google (gmail) account I can't use google play. My phone is just that a phone so I don't download anything on it, but the authorities and vaxers are getting quite militant about having it so they can see if I'm vaxed or not. And! yes I am, even have the booster for those that really don't need to know but must... The government sites are, well, government sites and pretty useless at giving any sort of constructive information on this...


Is there some way of downloading QLD Check In app from somewhere other than the apple store (clearly won't work for android but to preempt those that try to suggest it) or google play?

Pac man
29th December 2021, 10:20 PM
ring the number at the bottom of the page and ask (public holidays permitting)

Download and set up the app | Queensland Government (https://www.covid19.qld.gov.au/check-in-qld/im-a-customer/download-and-set-up-the-app)

havabeer69
29th December 2021, 11:23 PM
so what phone do you have? i'm trying to work out from your ramblings if its an iphone or something android based?

for iphone - no it has to come from here
for android - believe it or not you don't need a gmail account to sign up to google. my Hotmail email address is the email address "assigned" to my google account. I've never had a gmail account.

so yes you can 100% have a google account, and download apps from the playstore with out a gmail address, just use what ever email address you already have.

pintek
30th December 2021, 07:08 AM
Search for the Queensland check in app APK. You should be able to side load it without a G account.
You may need to give it permissions to install a non play store app.

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 07:15 AM
so what phone do you have? i'm trying to work out from your ramblings if its an iphone or something android based?

for iphone - no it has to come from here
(clearly won't work for android but to preempt those that try to suggest it)
for android - believe it or not you don't need a gmail account to sign up to google. my Hotmail email address is the email address "assigned" to my google account. I've never had a gmail account.

so yes you can 100% have a google account, and download apps from the playstore with out a gmail address, just use what ever email address you already have.


Well I'll give you one thing... Your confidently incorrect. You can't in anyway get past not having a google account. When you click on the play icon it takes you to the set up window and there is no option(s) for entering an email or other account information that isn't directly tied to google, which as I said before is also your gmail... Also, you can't add an account through the settings and have it activate the play store... So! Now if you would like to show how you did it I'm waiting... The likely scenario is you have an old(er) android version and aren't aware that they often change how things can be done with each successive upgrade. Each version is becoming more and more restrictive and forcing users to have google accounts to harvest data...

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 07:35 AM
Search for the Queensland check in app APK. You should be able to side load it without a G account.
You may need to give it permissions to install a non play store app.


You da man! apkpure has it.

forrestmount
30th December 2021, 07:36 AM
Search for the Queensland check in app APK. You should be able to side load it without a G account.
You may need to give it permissions to install a non play store app.

Pintek is on the money

Here is a link

Please Wait... | Cloudflare (https://m.apkpure.com/check-in-qld/au.gov.qld.checkin)

I install apps all the time without using my google account for testing android apps but I am using Samsung tablets. I am. It sure if that makes a difference.


Also bear in mind if you go outside the play store you run a serious risk. The unauthorised non play store apk’s could be malware.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Chief Tiff
30th December 2021, 08:22 AM
What’s wrong with having a Google account? I was “forced” to open a Gmail account; same as my Apple email, Virgin email and Westnet email. They exist but are never used; I would be hard pressed to figure out what passwords work on them.

The Gmail account comes in marginally useful whenever I try to make one-off purchases online and the company flat out insists that I provide an Email address. I don’t want their junk so it goes into the gmail account where it receives a savage ignoring to.

China
30th December 2021, 08:40 AM
And if you don't have a smart phone?

damian
30th December 2021, 11:32 AM
Assuming you are in queensland the premise is incorrect.

You don't need the green tick at all. You just carry paper copies of your vaccinations. You can also sign in manually pretty much everywhere. Yes it takes longer, yes it's inconvenient, but it can be done.

The boss's mother had a devil of a time dealing with the smart phone. She did just fine with manual sign on until the boss sorted her phone for her and taught her how to do it.

FB Google etc are incredibly good at tracking your activity. I have accounts with both but use duck duck go for internet search. It seems to use the same engine as google but without the stealth advertising.

havabeer69
30th December 2021, 11:55 AM
Well I'll give you one thing... Your confidently incorrect. You can't in anyway get past not having a google account. When you click on the play icon it takes you to the set up window and there is no option(s) for entering an email or other account information that isn't directly tied to google, which as I said before is also your gmail... Also, you can't add an account through the settings and have it activate the play store... So! Now if you would like to show how you did it I'm waiting... The likely scenario is you have an old(er) android version and aren't aware that they often change how things can be done with each successive upgrade. Each version is becoming more and more restrictive and forcing users to have google accounts to harvest data...


No need to get to snipity. Especially when you're asking for help.
Yes you need a google account, no one is disputing that but you do not need a gmail address to have a google account.

Even taken straight from googles help page

505596

Its a bit of a moot point if you can just download it externally but you can 100% make a google account with out a gmail address. May save you some heart ache on your next app download.

If you're not getting the option to put in an alternative email adress when signing up in the playstore app just goto the google website

Fuzzie
30th December 2021, 01:26 PM
There is a degree of paranoia showing here. If you don't trust Google I would assume you shouldn't be prepared to trust an Android phone either since Android is a Google Operating System. Not to mention Chinese modified versions of Android on Chinese phones from the likes of Huawei and Xiaomi.....

A current Android app (If you manage to download the APK directly) will also not necessarily run on any generation of Android phone. I've had to update phones a couple of times just to be able to load or update certain inescapable apps for me that are version dependent.

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 07:44 PM
Assuming you are in queensland the premise is incorrect.

You don't need the green tick at all. You just carry paper copies of your vaccinations. You can also sign in manually pretty much everywhere. Yes it takes longer, yes it's inconvenient, but it can be done.

The boss's mother had a devil of a time dealing with the smart phone. She did just fine with manual sign on until the boss sorted her phone for her and taught her how to do it.

FB Google etc are incredibly good at tracking your activity. I have accounts with both but use duck duck go for internet search. It seems to use the same engine as google but without the stealth advertising.

Funny as this covid panic goes, the pdf's weren't enough at bunnings. The nice young gal at the garden gate couldn't grasp the idea that the certificate was enough, and I have both the domestic and international pdfs... She, I would guess, was ordered only to accept the green tick on the check in app. I chose not to get indignant but instead went to the front door and walked in... Then got what I needed and walked passed her on my way out LOL. The whole thing is a pathetic mess LOL.

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 07:57 PM
There is a degree of paranoia showing here. If you don't trust Google I would assume you shouldn't be prepared to trust an Android phone either since Android is a Google Operating System. Not to mention Chinese modified versions of Android on Chinese phones from the likes of Huawei and Xiaomi.....

A current Android app (If you manage to download the APK directly) will also not necessarily run on any generation of Android phone. I've had to update phones a couple of times just to be able to load or update certain inescapable apps for me that are version dependent.


No, it's not paranoia or mistrust, it's that I use my phone, as a phone - literally. It's a hard concept for those under 50 but it works for me. You'd be surprised how long your phone's battery will last and how little data you need when you turn everything off. I can get nearly a week out of my phone on a single charge. I also don't, unless I use maps a lot, use more than a gig of data per month. And!! How relaxed you are because you're not available 24/7 at the whim of whom ever. Re. bosses that don't understand days off are not theirs to interrupt...

YMMV r/antiwork

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 08:03 PM
Pintek is on the money

Here is a link

Please Wait... | Cloudflare (https://m.apkpure.com/check-in-qld/au.gov.qld.checkin)

I install apps all the time without using my google account for testing android apps but I am using Samsung tablets. I am. It sure if that makes a difference.


Also bear in mind if you go outside the play store you run a serious risk. The unauthorised non play store apk’s could be malware.


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Pro

Yes I agree on the risk but I searched apkpure and they have gotten a clean bill of health recently so the risk is minimal. Probably no more risk than going to google play, where apps are often found to be nefarious...

The Spin Doctor
30th December 2021, 08:10 PM
No need to get to snipity. Especially when you're asking for help.
Yes you need a google account, no one is disputing that but you do not need a gmail address to have a google account.

Even taken straight from googles help page

505596

Its a bit of a moot point if you can just download it externally but you can 100% make a google account with out a gmail address. May save you some heart ache on your next app download.

If you're not getting the option to put in an alternative email adress when signing up in the playstore app just goto the google website


Yes LOL. My apologies for the "snipity" attitude. This whole covid thing is just gotten so out of control and the divisiveness it has facilitated amongst families, colleagues and friends will take decades to heal - if at all. I am truly disgusted at the at how people, on both sides are acting. And especially how the governments have managed this whole situation. So the snippiness was that obvious eh? LOL

Fuzzie
30th December 2021, 09:00 PM
No, it's not paranoia or mistrust, it's that I use my phone, as a phone - literally. It's a hard concept for those under 50 but it works for me. You'd be surprised how long your phone's battery will last and how little data you need when you turn everything off. I can get nearly a week out of my phone on a single charge. I also don't, unless I use maps a lot, use more than a gig of data per month. And!! How relaxed you are because you're not available 24/7 at the whim of whom ever. Re. bosses that don't understand days off are not theirs to interrupt...

YMMV r/antiwork

I'm pretty much a Luddite in this arena as well. I have all optional notifications turned off and don't use any social networking apps. My phone always has data turned on and my gmail app is logged on, however I hardly ever use the phone app anyway. If I need to do anything, if it's got a website I use my laptop on my home wifi. Unless I can't avoid it all updates only happen over my home wifi. On my phone I use MapsME (offline) when needed for navigation, not Google maps and very occasionally I use a browser.

My battery lasts a full week, often longer, I might use 1GB data a year. That still doesn't answer why you would trust Google Android and not Google Mail.

Bushmiller
30th December 2021, 10:06 PM
Interesting discussion.

I have asked a similar question myself just recently to The Spin Doctor except, if anything, my situation is more extreme in that I don't use a mobile phone at all. When SWMBO is with me she signs me in on the app, but when I am by myself I either use a paper sign in or an electronic tablet if one is provided. The reason I don't have a phone is that I do not wish to pay for one and my belief is that I don't need it: Most of the time this is true.

The vaccination proof requirement has taken this to another level. I now have paper copies to provide as evidence, if that is acceptable to the establishment concerned. At this stage I have not had to put it to the test. The paper copy aspect was fortunate as it transpired my second vaccination had been missed off. I had to register on MyGov, which took a while and then realised the omission on the certificate. Correcting that took well over an hour on the phone only to be told I could go to the local clinic that had given the vaccination to have the record corrected. Then it was entered incorrectly, but has subsequently been rectified. In fact SWMBO can sign me in, but I have to somehow give her permission, which I have not done yet as the situation has not arisen. I don't object to that at all.

It may be that down the track I will find the paper copy is insufficient evidence. That will be interesting. I don't know what percentage of the population are without a mobile phone, and I anticipate it is not high, but I certainly don't see why I should have to purchase a phone and buy credit to go about my normal life. Am I a Luddite? Probably.

Regards
Paul

havabeer69
30th December 2021, 11:18 PM
Yes LOL. My apologies for the "snipity" attitude. This whole covid thing is just gotten so out of control and the divisiveness it has facilitated amongst families, colleagues and friends will take decades to heal - if at all. I am truly disgusted at the at how people, on both sides are acting. And especially how the governments have managed this whole situation. So the snippiness was that obvious eh? LOL

yeah well thanks for taking out on the people trying to help, good job.

burraboy
31st December 2021, 04:09 AM
I've been through all this lately with a trip to SA from NSW without a smart phone. In short, the SA IT was unable to cope with that situation and I spent my time there waiting for a knock on the door from SA police. I spent a couple of hours on the phone on a couple of occasions, trying to do the right thing, but without resolution. In the end, I just ignored the messages I was sent on a daily basis, telling me to download their app. They were supposed to send a message with a phone number that I could ring to report my health status on a daily basis, but it never happened and I wasn't going to spend another two hours with a phone stuck to my ear.
The knock on the door was unlikely I suppose, they didn't have my address, but I was very aware of driving around the state with NSW plates.

The Spin Doctor
31st December 2021, 04:52 PM
yeah well thanks for taking out on the people trying to help, good job.


Your welcome... I guess LOL