Newbie, Floorboard worries

[cathnniv]

Hi everyone, this is my first post. Great forum you have here.

I'm needing some advice on laying ironbark toungue & groove floorboards over a cement floor.
My problem is the floor height. With bearers the added height will be 40ml and throw out most doorways requiring we change every door, architraving and bathroom toilet floor height.

I'm wondering if there is another way such as laying builders plastic for moisture, fasten masonite sheets then glue boards on top and re skirt?

Is this possible? Can it still be secret nailed?

Thanx in advance for the help.

[cathnniv]

Sorry i meant battens obviously.

Have read a post on pge 8 about a glue used if anyone knows the name i'd appreciate it?
Thanx

[Beetles]

One option is to glue the flooring directly to the the concrete slab. We have just had 19mm T&G Tassie Oak laid by this method - so far so good. Requires a moistue barrier to be painted on the slab before the floorboards are glued.

For more info do a search on google for "direct stick flooring"

cheers

Beetles

[cathnniv]

Thanks i'll do that.

Is this method ok with hardwood? Is that the only means of attatching?

[alexeib]

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Either way is quite laborious and requires a fair bit of skill and knowledge. It is doable by DIY, but, INHO, by the sound of your question you still have a bit of research to do.
:-)

Bostik & Sica are the names of glues & moisture barier manufacturers.

[glock40sw]

G'day.
Direct stick is not for the DIYer.
Wether it be 12mm, 14, or 19mm. Get a professional to install the floor.
I know that if a DIYer ever laid one of my floors by direct stick and had issues with it, I'd tear them a new one.

There are pros out there that have been laying floors since Adam was a boy. And even they will not install direct stick.

So,...If in doubt, DON'T !!!

Pay a pro. Have peace of mind that your floor will out last you.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

[cathnniv]

Thankyou, to everyone that's replied.

I am now contacting some professionals for advice.

I have the help of my father (accomplished DIYer) and hubby (Handy) but was unsureas to a way to attatch to concrete.

Will ask a pro. Thanx

[bob w]

Have you looked at the various floating floor systems available? Not sure if there is an ironbark species on the market but if there is this system allows you to glue the boards together without fixing to the slab. Layed on an approved underlay with a 10mm gap around the perimeter and fix new skirting and "bobs your uncle" Big River Timber in Sydney have a wide range of timbers available but as I said not sure if ironbark is one of them.
Regards
Bob W:cool: :cool:

[vGolfer]

We just had our house done with Sydney Bluegum 130x19mm boards. The back room was on a concrete slab so they laid some plastic moisture sheeting, then 12mm plywood attached to the floor by special anchors. They then glued and secret nailed the boards to the ply - feels solid as a rock so far but I guess time will tell how good it all works.

[E. maculata]

Thankyou, to everyone that's replied.

I am now contacting some professionals for advice.

Will ask a pro. Thanx

Ummm at least one from the top of the profession have already replied Cath, inspects floors that have installation and environmental issues for crust, then gives reccommendations on fixes, costs a fortune in the flesh:eek: & I sorta reckon he might a clue what he's on about;) .

[glock40sw]

Bruce. Are you p155ed or just typing with your left hand and using only the left side of your brain?

I think this forum needs a grammar checker just fo you...:D :D :D .
Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
grafton

[hazypond]

G'day.
Direct stick is not for the DIYer.
Wether it be 12mm, 14, or 19mm. Get a professional to install the floor.
I know that if a DIYer ever laid one of my floors by direct stick and had issues with it, I'd tear them a new one.

There are pros out there that have been laying floors since Adam was a boy. And even they will not install direct stick.

So,...If in doubt, DON'T !!!

Pay a pro. Have peace of mind that your floor will out last you.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor
Grafton

Gee GLOCK now i,m nervous!
Stuck about 15 square metres (hallway)of recycled 108mm tas oak boards to my 20yo slab about 6 months ago using bostik product( advertised as specifically for that purpose), no moisture barrier treatment, was rather pleased with myself, looks 110% . Have been asked by another to do same for them (larger area , slab similar age) glad i have'nt got round to it! should i be concerned ?
cheers!!!!

[glock40sw]

G'day.
You may have lucked it. BUt it's only been 6 months, wait and see.
Is the other job owned by a good friend?

Just remember, if the install goes to hell in a handbasket, you will no longer have a friend. And they will probably tear you a new one :D .

I stand by my previous post.
Get a Pro.

Hooroo.
Regards, Trevor.
Grafton