Nanosheild????

[Grumpy John]

Has anyone had Nanosheild, or any similar product applied to their windows to aid in insulation. The blurb sounds like it is the bees knees and we had a guy over to give us a quote (still waiting). He did a demo and had a great sales pitch, but the older I get the more skeptical I become.
Would be interested in hearing from anyone who has had it done, or anyone who is in the know about these things.
This is paint on technology, not a film.

[rrich]

Years ago I saw something that was a plastic sheet that would stick to windows. The theory was the film made the window unbreakable and the windows couldn't be broken to gain access to the home. It was also touted to reduce heat intrusion into the home. The market area was intended to be Florida. (A lot of pensioners.)

What I assumed was that if I hit the window enough with a 2 x 4 ( 38.1 x 88.9 mm) the glass and film could be pushed into the home. As far as increasing the "R" value of the glass, I was overly skeptical. The plastic film seemed very similar to what we put on the screens of smartphones today.

IMHO it sounds like snake oil to me.

[Fuzzie]

I assume Nanoshield must bee something similar to the coating used on Viridian smart glass. Last year I replaced some windows and specified smartglass at some substantial extra expense. I chose the SP30 Neutral product plus laminated glass. It definitely makes a noticeable difference but without any sophisticated pre and post temp measurements it is hard to quantify. There is no discernable colour cast and the outlook appears clear to me.

The downside is that the coating is on the inside surface and whilst durable it can be scratched. Once scratched there is no way to repair it.

I had another window that was not suitable for replacement and we had Suntek film applied with similar colour and light reduction performance. It works to.

I'm not sure the smart glass was any better option than plain glass with a film applied. I think both would work much the same. If you had small children or are likely to want to scrape off things like paint spatters etc with a razor blade, I would avoid anything that can't be repaired.

**Note: We are concerned more with keeping solar radiation out rather than stopping heat loss.

[woodPixel]

Heat loss, I severely doubt, but UV/IR ingress - absolutely.

There is a film that can be bought for tinting car windows that does exactly this. It stops infrared and UV to some large number (99%?). It is widely loved within the auto enthusiast community. Only this week I had some quoted, but golly is it expensive.

Since home-heat is neither of these, directly, then I fail to see how it would work.

edit: this is the stuff: CTX Window Tint | LLumar (http://northamerica.llumar.com/automotive-film/types-of-automotive-film/ceramic-window-tint/ctx-window-tint)

[Fuzzie]

The technical data specifies that Viridian glass works equally well for preventing heat loss as preventing heat ingress. Since it clearly works as advertised for excluding solar heat I'd be willing to accept their claim of preventing heat loss as well. I'm not sure about the retrofitted films.

[Grumpy John]

The product we are looking at is paint on NOT film. The windows are thoroughly cleaned then polished with jewelers rouge before the product is applied. Will let you know the price when I receive the emailed quote.

Link (https://nanoshield.com.au/faq/)

[Grumpy John]

Quote just in $2291 for 23.58 Square metres of glass.
This works out at ~$100/Sq.mtr. Bunnings sell Crystal Solar Film for $89/roll (1.2m x 2.4m 2.88 Sq.mtr) which works out at $30.90/Sq.Mtr. Then you have to install it and there would be a lot of wastage as the windows do not suit the roll size.

[Fuzzie]

I would get a quote for getting film applied by a reputable installer. I've seen terrible DIY jobs with Bunnings film. Also the installers have access to many different types and roll widths of film, some will be better for heat retention than others. Maybe you might need to go for a more reflective film and depending on your tastes that might be better or worse? :shrug: Films for cars and residential are different and have different life expectencies.

[Sturdee]

I would get a quote for getting film applied by a reputable installer.


John,

If you are going to get a film applied I would suggest you contact Happy Tint (https://www.happytint.com.au/)for a quote.

I have known Ric and his family for over 15 years, even when he was known as the Tint Professor. I have had car windows done as well as 12 windows in our house over the years and am satisfied with them. They keep the glare and heat out although they darken the room a little bit.

Peter.

[FenceFurniture]

GJ, firstly, what do you want to insulate against - summer or winter?

[Grumpy John]

GJ, firstly, what do you want to insulate against - summer or winter?
Mainly summer heat. The windows we are looking at getting done have a NNE and NW aspect. We have only been in this house since late February and have taken down the shademesh that protected the lounge and living area from summer heat as it made the house too dark in winter. I don't fancy putting up and taking down 2 large shademesh sails at the change of season, not at my age anyway. Looked at shutters, but they close off any view and darken the house also. Nanoshield looks like the best alternative.

[elanjacobs]

I would get a quote for getting film applied by a reputable installer. I've seen terrible DIY jobs with Bunnings film. Also the installers have access to many different types and roll widths of film, some will be better for heat retention than others.
Also, if they screw up a window it's their problem.

[Chris Parks]

John, It is possible to have slat shades installed that are angled to allow winter sun in but summer sun puts the window into shade.

[rrich]

Funny thing. I've been looking for Nanoshield here using Google. About all I get are smartphone protectors, screen protectors and spray on products like Rain-X. Then there are links to Australian products that claim thermal advantages.

DUNNO

I'm skeptical.

[Grumpy John]

John, It is possible to have slat shades installed that are angled to allow winter sun in but summer sun puts the window into shade.
If you mean something like this, we've thought about it.

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[Grumpy John]

Funny thing. I've been looking for Nanoshield here using Google. About all I get are smartphone protectors, screen protectors and spray on products like Rain-X. Then there are links to Australian products that claim thermal advantages.

DUNNO

I'm skeptical.

Rich, the link to the product is in post #6.

[rrich]

Thanks John,
Interesting. I tried that but I was looking for a link to sites in the US. The stuff is exceptionally interesting as I have 4 windows (2 wrong hemisphere south) and one each east and west that I would like to cover. All of the links for cosy 24/7 refer me back to Australia sites.

It was mostly a curiosity thing for cost. The fact that I can't get any sites here in the US tends me to believe that the Environmental Protection Agency has blocked the product here in the US. I'll try an E-Mail to the OZ company.

[Chris Parks]

If you mean something like this, we've thought about it.

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Fixed shades are what I have in mind. I haven't looked at the technicalities of it but my son's school had the problem and someone calculated the angle of the sun which varies with location so the sun enters at low angles (winter) and the higher it gets towards summer the more the slats block the sun from directly hitting the window.

Have a look through the links on this page https://www.google.com.au/search?client=opera&q=calculating+shade+angle+to+block+sunlight&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

[hiroller]

The product we are looking at is paint on NOT film.

Link (https://nanoshield.com.au/faq/)

After paint dries it leaves behind ... a film.
Pre-made film tends to be of uniform thickness which has benefits but also limitations with shapes and size.
I'd be very surprised if the technologies involved are wildly different.

[Grumpy John]

The quote for film came in at $3245, for the exact same coverage. The thermal and UV properties were no better and the visible light figures were worse by at least 10%.
I think we"ll go with the nanosheild.

[hiroller]

Sounds like a plan!
Let is know how it works.

[Grumpy John]

Will do, it's getting installed this Wednesday 5th. Sept.

[Mr Brush]

If it really is "nano" shield you won't be able to tell if it's been done or not.......:rolleyes:

[woodPixel]

If it really is "nano" shield you won't be able to tell if it's been done or not.......:rolleyes:

Many nanos....

[Grumpy John]

Very impressed with this company, the guys turned up right on time and set up their gear very quickly and got stuck in to it.
The coating has been on just under a week and we can definitely tell the difference. Before when we had a sunny day the floor where the sunlight fell would get quite warm to the touch, now it is noticeably cooler. It also feels cooler standing in front of the window. We had the kitchen window and sliding door done even though it faces east it does get quite a bit of early morning sun, particularly in the summer and it can get quite hot standing at the sink. the third bedroom/study faces the same direction and was not done. There ise a noticeable difference when you put your hand about 50mm from the glass, the kitchen is much cooler than the bedroom.
The only negative thing was the smell of the chemical being used, had to sleep in the spare bedroom the first night.

Polishing the glass with aluminium paste before applying the nanosheild coating.

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