Bouncers

[silentC]

A bouncer follows a patron outside after an altercation inside a venue. The bouncer accosts the patron and punches him on the chin. The patron falls to the ground, hits his head on the concrete and subsequently dies. The bouncer is charged with manslaughter.

Sound familiar?

Only this time, the bouncer is found guilty and is sent to prison for 5 years. The difference? He wasn't on duty...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1465945.htm

[Daddles]

As far as I'm concerned, it's a bigger crime when the bouncer is on duty. Just being a hired thug doesn't give you permission to behave like one and in this day and age, they can learn to handle themselves and situations without being violent.

Richard

[silentC]

I used to think that the problem with bouncers is that they wear their bowties too tight and it stops the blood from getting to their brains. This just goes to show that it would make no difference either way.

[Schtoo]

Only 5 years?

And they wonder why no-one likes bouncers...

Yes, they have a job to do, but along with being thugs on contract, they are usually Hitler apprentices too.

[duckman]

A bouncer follows a patron outside after an altercation inside a venue. The bouncer accosts the patron and punches him on the chin. The patron falls to the ground, hits his head on the concrete and subsequently dies. The bouncer is charged with manslaughter.

Sound familiar?

Only this time, the bouncer is found guilty and is sent to prison for 5 years. The difference? He wasn't on duty...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200509/s1465945.htm

If I heard the news correctly, he has only a 2 year non-parole period to serve.

So the taking of a human life via a criminal act is now only worth 2 years in jail.

What a fricken joke the legal system in this state is. :mad: :mad:

[Bodgy]

They don't always win.

I recently got an early morning call from my son, who is playing Rugby in the Uk during his GAP year. Apparently he and a few teammates (Aussies/Sud Effrikans) had been having an innocent cocktail in a nightclub (or seven perhaps) when the bouncers began to comment on their accents and birthplaces. A short altercation ensued resulting in the bouncers uniformly assuming a prone position on the carpet. The management had unsportingly called the Old Bill and my son was calling from the lock-up to enquire as to legal representation.

Good sense prevailed, the police apparently share our views on bouncers, and no further proceedings occurred.

Doesn't make up for the Ashes tho.

[Iain]

Mate of mine used to train them in Qld, said the pre requisite was a little tuft of hair on the top of the head, talk funny and be big.
Apart from that IQ was unimportant.

[Groggy]

Y'know, I've seen a lot of so called sportsmen in action in bars and clubs. I've seen end-of-season antics that should have had the guys locked up for a long time. I've heard that Hooke's was an innocent and I've heard he was being an a***hole at the time and deserved to get thumped (not killed).

I've also seen bouncers behave more like inmates or primates than crowd controllers. But what I have learned, and know for sure now, is not to believe the press, and to doubt the so called eye-witnesses unless they have a camera.

It has become very hard to determine who is telling the truth nowadays.

[Bulli]

But what I have learned, and know for sure now, is not to believe the press, and to doubt the so called eye-witnesses unless they have a camera.

It has become very hard to determine who is telling the truth nowadays.

Spot on Groggy. I couldn't agree more.

Bulli

[JDarvall]

Y'know, I've seen a lot of so called sportsmen in action in bars and clubs. I've seen end-of-season antics that should have had the guys locked up for a long time. I've heard that Hooke's was an innocent and I've heard he was being an a***hole at the time and deserved to get thumped (not killed).

I've also seen bouncers behave more like inmates or primates than crowd controllers. But what I have learned, and know for sure now, is not to believe the press, and to doubt the so called eye-witnesses unless they have a camera.

It has become very hard to determine who is telling the truth nowadays.

I've seen a bit too. I moonlighted (if thats the word to describe it) as a weekend taxi driver in Brisbane for a couple of years while money was short...and ....bloody hell....the towns pretty tame, but still plenty of crap goes on.

I would often sit outside nightclubs waiting for jobs. Saw plenty of bloody bouncer fights. And in many of them the bouncers could have prevented them. One would think being sober prefessionals they would know how to tuck their pride away when someone has a go at them. Yet often they can't help themselves.
And its gutless. Because their fresh, sober, strong....and the blokes they hit are drunk and slow. no wonder they kill on occation.

[maglite]

I dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me.

In years past how many times have we all seen someone get thumped, or indeed been the thumpee, outside a pub and smack their head on the pavement.......i know i have seen/been a few but i cant remember any of them even going to see a doctor let alone a funeral director........if it happened i cant remember ever seeing it on the evening news or as a headline on the morning paper.

Perhaps i or others were simply lucky or the event wasnt considered newsworthy enough to make it to primetime.

Like i said, i dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me?

[DanP]

....and the blokes they hit are drunk and slow.

And usually facing the other direction... :mad:

[maglite]

And usually facing the other direction... :mad:


Not only bouncers who do that Dan

[rick_rine]

I dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me.

In years past how many times have we all seen someone get thumped, or indeed been the thumpee, outside a pub and smack their head on the pavement.......i know i have seen/been a few but i cant remember any of them even going to see a doctor let alone a funeral director........if it happened i cant remember ever seeing it on the evening news or as a headline on the morning paper.

Perhaps i or others were simply lucky or the event wasnt considered newsworthy enough to make it to primetime.

Like i said, i dont know about anyone else or perhaps its just me?


No its not just you , I agree with you . These things happen and its sad but if your famous everyone is up in arms . I mean what about the 20,000 people who die world-wide EVERY DAY from starvation and basic medical problems . Why dont we see that on TV every day . Is it not newsworthy ? Is it just boring because it happens every day ? Our world is nowhere near perfect but my new born Charles is . He came home today .

[DanP]

Not only bouncers who do that Dan

What are you suggesting?

[JDarvall]

And usually facing the other direction... :mad

Maybe they do that so they don't get spew on their lovely pressed suits :rolleyes:

I saw one bouncer once throw a punch at a bloke who projectile spewed back at the bouncers face at the same time. I mean 'projectile' all right. Came out like a gushing water pipe.... the bloke dropped like a stone but the bouncer coped this blokes spew, right into his mouth :eek: , and all over his body......The bouncer lost it, got fiece and started to kick the crap out of this now unconcsious bloke on the ground.... the other bouncers tried to stop him by saying ......'don't,,,, stop,,, trev,,, don't,,, stop, trev....you'll kill him' .....thats all they did to try and stop him though, because they didn't want any rub off spew getting on their suits either.... :rolleyes:

Tossers , the lot of them, really,,,,, don't like bars and pubs because of this sort of stuff. Never understood why people get angry when they drink anyway. ....When I have a drink, I just drift away with a smile on my face, and just relax. A happy drunk :D

[Iain]

When I have a drink, I just drift away with a smile on my face, and just relax. A happy drunk :D
SWMBO tells me that when I drink too much I become offensive at the 3 rd level.
1. Sleep
2. Snore loudly
3. Fart :D

[Wood Borer]

Like Tripper I also drove taxis but in Melbourne for 12 years on Friday and Saturday nights.

Saw lots of drunks, druggies and bouncers. I can recall good and bad drunks, the rare occurrence of something basically resembling reasonable amongst the druggies but nothing good about the bouncers. I can’t ever recall meeting a bouncer with any IQ or personality.

Bouncers act like bullies and fight in packs, they are given the power to decide who gets into the night clubs and who doesn’t, they antagonise people. Maybe there are some good ones it’s just that I never saw them.

I don’t visit any establishment where there are bouncers.

If the place is so rough they need people to break up fights then why would I want to go in?

If the place is so crowded someone needs to limit the number of patrons why would I want to go in?

If the establishment places it’s entire judgement of the patrons by the clothes they wear why would I want to go in?

Some people, wait in long queues so they can be judged by a bouncer if they are suitable to fork out good money to go into a crowded hostile bar with poor service and rip off prices.

I guess I’m just not with it!

To criticise bouncers is like shooting fish in a barrel, the difference being the fish are less slimy, smarter and braver and the barrel is more appealing than the holes where bouncers are employed.

[maglite]

What are you suggesting?

Im suggesting that it isnt only bouncers who have been known to hit from behind.

Other patrons seem to do it pretty well also.

[bitingmidge]

Why are they called bouncers anyway??? None that I have seen bear any particular resemblance to Doug's avatar....

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:rolleyes: