Break in & robbery. Security doors for French doors?

[graham.murfett]

G'day all
Well, some a-hole literally smashed a french door apart on our house yesterday, allowing access through gap between french doors. Fortunately I had previously installed sliding lock bolts to top of doors so french doors couldnt be opened apart.
This stopped large items being removed from house. We lost jewellery & watches, maybe $2500 worth. Fortunately other items were in a safe. But you get lazy, and dont always put everything in the safe all the time.
It musta been a quick smash & grab, coz our dog would have been aware someone was in the house.
So, my question is, can anyone recommend secure screen solutions that are installed inside french doors? We have 2 pairs of french doors, and they are the weak link as far as security goes. Other windows have secure screens on them.
I have seen the rollout from the side screen doors, but don't know how secure they are.
It's a really $hitty feeling being broken into. One that is gunna cost me quite a bit in excess and increased security measures. But, it has to be done.

[woodPixel]

Its a terrible feeling, but I would resist turning your home into a fortress based on a single event.

Are you insured?

Its disgraceful that insurers charge excesses and increase your premiums based on the actions of others.

There is a case right now in the ACT courts where the NRMA sued a thief for his costs to them. About time.

[Dibbers]

Bear traps... lots and lots of bear traps... filthy bludgers

[graham.murfett]

Yes, insured. But at some cost and excess[emoji35]
I like the bear traps idea [emoji1303]

[rob streeper]

Security cameras are the best deterrent IMO. I installed our first system 9 years ago after a couple of petty thefts from our cars and nothing has happened since. I like the hard wired systems, more difficult to install but once the Siamese cables are up it's simple to change components as they fail and you won't go bankrupt buying batteries.

[graham.murfett]

Gunna look at rollout security screens, and I expect cameras are gunna happen.
Hard wired I reckon.

[woodPixel]

I use the wifi ones. Just plug in the power, no need to worry about cabling everywhere.

Software for a PC in a cupboard: https://www.ispyconnect.com/

[forrestmount]

We live in a QLDer, we have had some small items stolen but always feel our freedom and safety ( fire) is more important than getting carried away with security, we don't have cameras but IMO this is one option that doesn't restrict leaving the house in a hurry whilst giving some piece of mind.


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[KBs PensNmore]

Hi Graham, make sure you don't use the tooth brush, some that break into homes have a disgusting habit that requires the use of a tooth brush.
Got broken into a couple of times, it's the feeling of invasion of privacy more than anything.
Kryn

[graham.murfett]

I use the wifi ones. Just plug in the power, no need to worry about cabling everywhere.

Software for a PC in a cupboard: https://www.ispyconnect.com/

I am a bit of an IT Luddite when it comes to this stuff.
Willing to learn though.
I presume:
I need 240V for each camera.
Use existing wifi
That's about if for me [emoji57]

[Ubernoob]

Clearguard?
The video is pretty average but it gives you an idea on how tough it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW62PuTLwDg

[graham.murfett]

Clearguard?
The video is pretty average but it gives you an idea on how tough it is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW62PuTLwDg

Have you installed this glass?
Similar to laminated 5mm I guess!?

[Ubernoob]

Have you installed this glass?
Similar to laminated 5mm I guess!?


No not this type but we did have a business many years ago and had one of the earlier types and it probably slowed the cheeky sods down but from memory the seals let go and allowed them to push the whole pane in. After that the insurance company said we had to have a roller door.

If you have roof tiles it's pretty easy to get in through them, no point in making your house ugly because of one burglary.
This is the film in the video above, it would have been nice to see a larger test window used.
http://cleargardaustralia.com/

[Chris Parks]

Locks only keep honest people out, a big hammer straight through a wall gets into any brick veneer house in about one minute flat.

[rustynail]

A mate of mine installed security cameras. Four nights later they were all stolen.
My Dad was a detective ,Breaking Squad, They put on a demo night for other cops on the different methods used. Dad invited me along to see how it was done these days. Wow, talk about easy. Methods you would never think of; Cup of dry ice and a diamond ring. Panel beaters porta power in a sports kit bag. Bitch on heat to keep the guard dog entertained just to name a few. It was a real eye opener.
Insurance aint cheap, but after three robberies we've well and truly got our money back.

[woodPixel]

Rustynail, stealing the surveillance cameras is amazing!

Nothing will stop a professional thief, but I'd reckon the vast majority of these crimes are simply ice addicts seeking fast cash. It's a smash and grab.

[rob streeper]

I have one of these: Samsung 16 Channel | 10 Camera 1080p FHD Security System w/ 2TB HDD DVR - NEW | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-16-Channel-10-Camera-1080p-FHD-Security-System-w-2TB-HDD-DVR-NEW-/201990015634?epid=1142066412&hash=item2f078b0a92:g:BasAAOSwlmxZbO9~)
and I've installed two additional systems. Everybody is happy with them. Night vision range is ~20m and the disk is big enough that it will hold 30 to 90 days of recordings. It can be configured to allow you too access your system over your smart-phone if that is important to you.

[rustynail]

Rustynail, stealing the surveillance cameras is amazing!

Nothing will stop a professional thief, but I'd reckon the vast majority of these crimes are simply ice addicts seeking fast cash. It's a smash and grab.
Quite true, most are, but there are also the pros. These guys really know their stuff. There would be blokes, sitting in the clink as we speak, working out some up coming job. Plenty of time to sort out the details with no distractions.

[graham.murfett]

I doubt that a pro is interested in my life, but I do need to get up to speed with camera technology.

So much for not living in the suburbs!

[Pagie]

Shotgun is good