the price of fuel

[MathewA]

I've done plenty of driving in France and Italy and their idiots put our idiots to shame. I've never known people who can drive so fast in a traffic jamb. I don't even want to talk about New York. I still can't incurl my toes.

Personally I thought Italians, including Romans, were some of the best drivers I've experienced. Enough chaos to keep it interesting but in no way dangerous.

Never been to France and can't say I have any desire to go - had too many bad reports from friends that went.

[MathewA]

New Landcruiser V8 $68000.00 :D

Cost to fill tank $165.00 :mad:


My little toyota that was Midges daughters takes 42 litre to fill and will go for about 600km around town. On th way down to Sydney I kept the speed at round 90kph and was getting about 775km per fill. And that little bugger has seen better days, it has over 230000km :D

[Clinton1]

Tell me more midge - seriously.
I'm looking at @$13,000 for a 2001-2002 model Falcon wagon on dedicated LPG, low km's.
I need one car that does the lot, transport me to and from work, pull a trailer with garden waste and renovation/timber items, transport two medium sized dogs with us, and will allow a couple of kids and the missus fit in. I know its a tall order to get everything from one car, but finances dictate terms.

I used to live 3 km from work and run or walk to and back (depending on the Melbourne weather). The wagon was bought 3 years old and the plan was to hold it untill it was scrap... like my first car, a 4cylinder Toyota that I held for 10 years. We bought a house, and could only afford the way outer suburbs. From about 20 km's a week to over 600km's - :eek: I'd get a motorbike, but peak hour is scary.

I know nothing about the Citroen/Peugeot - what should I be looking at? Do tell.

[ozwinner]

I've driven in mexico .

Why didnt you call in. :mad:

Al :D

[Grunt]

Clinton,

You could get a nice economical car like Al has.

http://www.ford.com.au/range/fseries4x4/models/f250pickup.asp

[bitingmidge]

Tell me more midge - seriously.
I'm looking at @$13,000 for a 2001-2002 model Falcon wagon on dedicated LPG, low km's.
I know nothing about the Citroen/Peugeot - what should I be looking at? Do tell.
Darn! I hate it when people call my bluff! I was talking new car comparisons, but that's ok!

Second hand diesel wagons are almost unprocurable, because their owner's just won't sell, but you'd get a Peugot Wagon (a fair bit older) for that money, and you'd expect it to go pretty much forever. OR if you are lucky a 307 Hatch, (which may be a little small for you) but a nifty car none the less, don't worry about towing, the diesel's up to it!

If you are really really, really, lucky, you may find a Citroen C5 sedan (which is a big hatch, more like a wagon) or a wagon.... but I doubt that it would be down to those sorts of dollars yet!

Generally speaking, the froggy cars have tremendous resilience, which is why you see so many old beat up ones on the roads, they are mechanically bulletproof, not usually considered run-in until they have at least 200,000 k's on them. The negative is that people who can't pronounce the brand usually think they have complex mechanicals - they don't, they are just put together slightly differently to the very basic local product.

I don't know anyone you can talk to in Melbourne, try the yellow pages under repairers, then go from there, specialist repairers usually are a bit enthusiastic, or lurk around here for a bit:http://www.aussiefrogs.com/forum/index.php

Cheers,

P (Reformed Frog nut)

:D :D :D

[ozwinner]

Sacre bleu mon ami, what are you thinking, selling frog cars.!!!!!!

Al :eek: :D

[bitingmidge]

Sacre bleu mon ami, what are you thinking, selling frog cars.!!!!!!

Al :eek: :D

Yoplait bon abattoir!

(Sorry, my French ees not so good!)

P
:D :D :D

[Clinton1]

will do - thanks

[silentC]

On th way down to Sydney I kept the speed at round 90kph
No wonder you had fully laden semis up your clacker. :rolleyes:

Actually, it all becomes clear now. Canadian new to the country drives down major inter-city highway in small fart box at 90kmph and wonders why he sees so many lunatics on the road. Yes, it all makes sense to me now...

[craigb]

Actually, it all becomes clear now. Canadian new to the country drives down major inter-city highway in small fart box at 90kmph and wonders why he sees so many lunatics on the road. Yes, it all makes sense to me now...

HeHe. :D :D

[Grunt]

90 in 110 zone. People have been killed for less than that.

Actually, people get killed trying to overtake people who do 90 in 110 zone.

[Baz]

Why not try a VW Golf Turbo Diesel, 4.4lt/100k's.Canberra to Warick one one tank!
Cheers
Barry

[Daddles]

Why not try a VW Golf Turbo Diesel, 4.4lt/100k's.Canberra to Warick one one tank!
Cheers
Barry

But I don't go anywhere near Canberra or Warick :confused:

Richard

[savage]

Originally Posted by Baz
Why not try a VW Golf Turbo Diesel, 4.4lt/100k's.Canberra to Warick one one tank!
Cheers
Barry

See nobody picked up on that one, Barry really used TWO tanks!...
savage.

[maglite]

I wonder if people realise that the govt plans to introduce fuel excise to LPG in 2008.

I am led to believe that the excise is about 43% of the litre price (fed govt only) + state taxes + g.s.t.
At present we in the west are paying 55c per litre LPG in the country areas...perth is probably cheaper.
Add that all together and post 08, LPG wont be that much cheaper than petrol or diesel.
I will look into my crystal ball and predict that by 2010 LPG will be dearer or the same price as both diesel and petrol per litre.

It all comes down to supply and demand......i remember, as many others do, when diesel was 1/2 the price of petrol per litre.Now it is more expensive, yet costs less to refine(on a limb here).

We should all get used to high fuel prices cos generally once the precendent is set price wise, it very rarely ever drops down to a comfortable level that we USED to think was bloody dear in first place.

Steve

[silentC]

http://www.pm.gov.au/news/media_releases/media_Release624.html

I wonder how they will stop people trying to fill their cars from the BBQ bottle?

[Iain]

Thieving bastards, sell to Japan and USA for sod all then stands there and smiles and waves, bend over, cop this.........

[Daddles]

Thieving bastards, sell to Japan and USA for sod all then stands there and smiles and waves, bend over, cop this.........

You are obviously missing the point about modern economics Iain. When you find it, could you explain it to me please? :mad:

Richard

[Bulli]

I can't believe this story is relevant to this thread. But, trust me, it is.

"German inventor's "cat fuel" angers animal lovers" (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T134341Z_01_MAR449436_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-CAT-FUEL.XML)

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor has angered animal rights activists with his answer to fighting the soaring cost of fuel -- dead cats.
Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over cats, and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer diesel.

etc.

No Geelong jokes, please.

Cheers,

Bulli

[Termite]

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor has angered animal rights activists with his answer to fighting the soaring cost of fuel -- dead cats.
Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over cats, and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer diesel.
Bulli
Finally, a use for them. :D

[savage]

I wonder how they will stop people trying to fill their cars from the BBQ bottle?<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->silentC.

Ha!Ha!Ha!......An image of people driving around in the not to distant future, towing a trailer with a BBQ in it, "that's a spare, in case I run out!", that has a hint of the old Aussie humor about it!
savage.:D :D :D

[Termite]

Bit of humour in towing around a cagefull of cats too. :rolleyes:

[adrian]

I can't believe this story is relevant to this thread. But, trust me, it is.

"German inventor's "cat fuel" angers animal lovers" (http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T134341Z_01_MAR449436_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-CAT-FUEL.XML)

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German inventor has angered animal rights activists with his answer to fighting the soaring cost of fuel -- dead cats.
Christian Koch, 55, from the eastern county of Saxony, told Bild newspaper that his organic diesel fuel -- a home-made blend of garbage, run-over cats, and other ingredients -- is a proven alternative to normal consumer diesel.

etc.

No Geelong jokes, please.

Cheers,

Bulli

My vote for 'Man Of The Year'

'Put a tabby in your tank.' Brilliant.

[savage]

Does that mean if it where made from greyhounds it would make your car go faster? ......:confused:
Cos' if it where made from cats you would just purr along!...Ha!Ha!
savage.:D

[Iain]

Put a hive on your car and run on BP :o
We can but try

[RETIRED]

Would suggest that you read this.



http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T160628Z_01_MAR457954_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-GERMANY-CATS.XML

[RETIRED]

www.journeytoforever.org

[savage]

Does that mean if it where made from greyhounds it would make your car go faster? ......:confused:
Cos' if it where made from cats you would just purr along!...Ha!Ha!
savage.:D
<!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
Use of cats in bio-fuel denied by inventor


Can anyone help get a greyhound out of my fuel tank?...:D Ha!Ha!
savage.

[Bulli]

Would suggest that you read this.



http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=oddlyEnoughNews&storyID=2005-09-14T160628Z_01_MAR457954_RTRIDST_0_OUKOE-UK-GERMANY-CATS.XML



Thanks for clearing that up . But I don't feel so bad given that Rueters was hoodwinked as well!

[fxst]

I used to get a tiger in my tank at every fill up once :D
Pete