Introduction and a little more

[Abid ttm.edu.au]

Hi all, I'm Abid and i am a Brit living and working in Melbourne.

I work as the Enrolment and Marketing officer for Training Tradesman. We provide nationally recognised training and qualifications at our campus and work space in Melbourne (close to the cbd)

ALL courses are fully subsidised by the Government, meaning all courses/qualifications are FREE of charge if you are a resident of Australia or New Zealand.

We have three trainers, all with over 15+ years experience and we provide a relaxed, friendly and hands on environment in which to gain your qualification

We offer Certificate 4 in Building and Construction, Certificate 2 in Construction, Certificate 3 in Carpentry and Certificate 3 in Bricklaying/Blocklaying.

Courses are only 1 day a week, you choose the day and time!! If you cannot attend then working from home can be arranged with your trainer.

For non residents costs are from $3000-10,000!!

Any information or questions, call me directly on 0416 417 929, email abid@[email protected] or message me on here.
The website is ttm.edu.au

Im hoping this is an appropriate place to display this, wasnt sure where else it could go.

Cheers

Abid.

[Lappa]

Welcome.
Are these course real courses involving actual teaching and assessment of both practical and theory or just tick and flick?

[dusteater]

mmmmmmmmmmmm?

[Abid ttm.edu.au]

Hi,
Yes, there is actual teaching and assessment. Highly experienced Australian trainers/teachers too.
We have a fully equipped warehouse at our campus and classroom areas for practical and theory.
All tools are provided if required and we have an area for free coffees and snacks.

Thanks for your question, I am happy to provide pictures and any information you need, including a break down of the different units that would be covered.

[Lappa]

When you say free, that's not actually the case. There is a standard Govt cost for each course. The student pays a portion or a whole of the cost depending on the qualification being sort ie. for a trade apprenticeship in NSW the course cost maybe $12000, the student fee to the Training Provider is $2000 so the Govt gives the Training Provider $10000. If the student does not have an apprenticeship then they pay the whole course cost to the Training Provider. The basic structure is still the same in Victoria although course costs and student's fees may differ. The student still has a cost which can be covered by a HECS style Govt loan which has to be paid back by the student once their earnings reach the threshold, which as of tax year 2016/17 is $54869.

So, it's not free is it?

Don't get me wrong, I think anyone offering qualfied training should be thanked (and a HUGE thanks to employers who offer the jobs and provide onsite training) however I don't like it when the whole package is not disclosed in the advertising.

https://www.vu.edu.au/sites/default/files/student-connections/pdfs/ve-tafe-2016-fees.pdf

Cheers

[Abid ttm.edu.au]

Well, i will say that all Australian/NZ residents have the full fee subsidised by the Government. Training institutes are entitled to charge students a tution fee, however the place i work at does not and tuition fee therefore is waived.

I am aware of the VET fees for certain diploma courses but when i mentioned the courses we provide, a diploma course was not amongst them.

The Victorian Training Guarantee (http://www.education.vic.gov.au/training/learners/vet/Pages/funding.aspx)

I appreciate the replies

Cheers

[Lappa]

Thanks for the reply. The link I provided shows Cert I, Cert II, Cert III and Diploma course costs, not just Diploma.

It lists the courses you said you provided.

The link you provided mentions that all training providers must charge fees.


Fees (http://www.education.vic.gov.au/training/learners/vet/Pages/fees.aspx)

[Abid ttm.edu.au]

If you are eligible then its fully covered, we have zero students on the courses who are not eligible.

Each training college/institute are able to charge a fee.

"There are no restrictions on what fee providers can charge, Providers are able to set fees at a level that they believe the quality, cost and reputation of their training warrants so you should shop around to find a course and price that is right for you."

Thats from the same link, so i agree that places can. However, what i have written about where i am, is correct as students who start the course do not pay before or after. no must here.

I get you are skeptical or whatever but there has been no falsehoods on my part, as all im writing about is where i work.

Thanks

[Lappa]

I believe that the reference to what providers can charge relates to "additional costs" as shown below in a full version of what you stated above.

"If you are eligible for a government subsidised place, some of the cost of the course will be covered by the government and the rest you will have to pay. Additional costs, such as student services and amenities fees may also apply. There are no restrictions on what fee providers can charge.

Providers are able to set fees at a level that they believe the quality, cost and reputation of their training warrants so you should shop around to find a course and price that is right for you."

If you do indeed provide qualified training at zero cost to the student - well done.


I'll leave it at that.

Cheers

[Abid ttm.edu.au]

Cool, no probs.

I maintain that the place where i work doesn't charge a fee, so students dont pay for it now or later on in their working life.

Not saying others dont either.

[Christos]

Welcome to the forum.