Why is it?

[echnidna]

That smokers who quit often become antismokers to the point of being intolerant pains in the butt!! (pun intended) :D :D :D :D

[ozwinner]

Because we, arhum, they, realise what doofuses ( or is thst doofie? ) they have been for doing the same thing for years.


Al :D

[Driver]

I used to idly wonder about this, too. If I gave it any serious thought, I used to believe that it was because converts become zealots. Then I gave up smoking in February 2004.

Now I no longer idly wonder about it.

Now I really don't understand it. Other people's smoking genuinely doesn't bother me. The only reliable way I found to give it up (and I had been a dedicated smoker for over 40 years) was to convince myself that I didn't want to smoke. It wasn't easy but I did finally convince myself and then I went cold turkey - no gum, patches or other substitutes. The process was entirely internal. The actions of other people had no relevance so watching others smoke - and smelling the smoke itself - doesn't make me want to join them. Also, I'm not entirely convinced by the arguments about the effects of passive smoking (that ought to get a reaction! :eek: ).

By the way, I don't advocate my method for quitting. It worked for me but I have no idea whether it would be effective for anyone else.

Incidentally, I have a sneaking suspicion that the ex-smokers who become intolerant PITAs are the kind of people who are so self-centred they genuinely believe any aspect of someone else's life that is different from their own is - by definition - wrong and not to be permitted. They can't actively protest against most forms of normal behaviour but the anti-smoking trend gives them an excuse to spruik both their intolerance and their own self-righteousness. (Of course, I could be taking all this far too seriously, too :rolleyes: )

Col

[Sturdee]

Incidentally, I have a sneaking suspicion that the ex-smokers who become intolerant PITAs are the kind of people who are so self-centred they genuinely believe any aspect of someone else's life that is different from their own is - by definition - wrong and not to be permitted. They can't actively protest against most forms of normal behaviour but the anti-smoking trend gives them an excuse to spruik both their intolerance and their own self-righteousness. (Of course, I could be taking all this far too seriously, too :rolleyes: )

Col


You're right Col, and what's worse is that their zealousness in prosecuting their ideas, and thus persecuting smokers, isn't helping their cause one iota.

They would be better of leading by example and only talk about it when asked.


Peter.

[ozwinner]

http://www.learnenglish.org.uk/magazine/apimages/smoking.jpg
What?

Al :D

[Grunt]

When I gave up I made a point of not being a PITA. I hated ex smokers when I was one and refused to be one myself. I sometimes go outside and watch the smokers have their little fix just for the memories.

[DanP]

I dunno but I'm sick of the sanctimonious wankers.

Dan (about 8 hours in to becoming a sanctimonious wanker)

[Rocker]

I have never smoked, apart from a few half-hearted attempts when I was a teenager, which usually ended in my feeling nauseous and dizzy - I must have been lucky enough to have a low tolerance of carbon monoxide, or something.

I have to say that it appals me how the addictive properties of tobacco are strong enough to lead otherwise rational people to continue a habit which, at best, is liable to shorten their lives by several years, and cause premature impotence, and, at worst, is quite likely to kill them relatively young from lung cancer or emphysema, or any number of other lethal conditions.

If this sounds like the ravings of a sanctimonious wanker, so be it.

Rocker

[Cliff Rogers]

I gave up cold turkey 24 years ago 'cos it was making me sick... it still makes me sick if I'm stuck in a room with a smoker. I hate having to walk through the cloud of smoke at the doors to shopping cetres/public buildings, even if they are 4 metres from the door. :mad: I hate the smell that gets in your hair & your cloths when you go to see a band at a closed venue full of smoke. I can't wait for the day that smoking inside is banded totally.

[Gingermick]

It makes it easier to quit if you teach yourself to hate it. Simple.


And the other reason is this; If you start smoking again, you know the level of abuse that you'll receive will be 1000 fold what you gave, thus giving you extra reason to stay quit.:D

[ozwinner]

I gave up cold turkey 24 years ago 'cos it was making me sick... it still makes me sick if I'm stuck in a room with a smoker. I hate having to walk through the cloud of smoke at the doors to shopping cetres/public buildings, even if they are 4 metres from the door. :mad: I hate the smell that gets in your hair & your cloths when you go to see a band at a closed venue full of smoke. I can't wait for the day that smoking inside is banded totally.

OK Australia.
Thats it!
No more smoking near Cliff.
Or you have me to answer too!!
And Ill be naked!!!!!!!
So look out.

Al :eek:

[martrix]

Driver, you have summed up the reformed smoker perfectly! http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

[Gingermick]

Also, I'm not entirely convinced by the arguments about the effects of passive smoking

I was in a pub the other week, (rare) and after half an hour or so I was coughing and my eyes hurt. That was caused by passive smoking, though I was in a pub so I couldn't ask people to kindly **** off. :(
Nicotine is very addictive, but the withdrawl is, like the effect, very mild. No vomiting of diarrhea or sleepless nights; if you needed to find $50 and a dealer for your next smoke you would find it much easier to quit.:D What makes it so hard IMO is that it's just down the road and only $10 and you can be gagging on pj 20's.

[doug the slug]

to all the smokers

your vice is nicotine. when you indulge in your "habit" you produce a residue of smoke, which, when you practice your habit in my presence permeates my clothes, making them smell, not to mention is breathed in by me without my consent and adversely affects my health.

i have a little vice too, i like to drink a dozen or so stubbies of beer of an evening. if i do that in your presence it has no impact on your health or the smell of your clothes. UNLESS - i am as inconsiderate as you smokers are and i allow the residue of my vice to impact on you.

If you are a smoker, please understand that if i stand on a chair and pee on you im only sharing the residue of my vice with you the same way you do for me

[JDarvall]

OK Australia.
.......
And Ill be naked!!!!!!!
.....
Al :eek:

Holy soya sauce !!!!!!! I can only imagine what that would look like ...

Probably scare me into TAKING UP smoking again. And not 16's....nooo, something stronger, something expensive......

[julianx]

Holy soya sauce !!!!!!! I can only imagine what that would look like ...
I can only imagine why you would want to imagine what that would look like.

[maglite]

Here in WA, the new rule is no smoking within 1 metre of a public bar.I am open for correction if this isnt the case.This applies in all licensed venues. It is up to the licensee wether a total ban is enforced or not.

The last time i was at the pub, all the smokers were congregated outside as is the norm these days.... and we were joined by the the non - smokers.
Apparently the fact that the conversation abounded outside was so much that they couldnt bear to be left to their own devices inside.Yet they insisted that we all butt out when they were in OUR presence...we didnt invite them, they came of their own accord.
Like all things it appears that it has become fashionable to lay the hard line on smokers, even if those that choose not to smoke, reserve the right to suck powder up their nose or pop pills in the search of a really good time.

Whatever happened to personal choice?

Steve

[kiwigeo]

And Ill be naked!!!!!!!

Al :eek:

Think Ill take up smoking

[DanP]

to all the smokers

your vice is nicotine. when you indulge in your "habit" you produce a residue of smoke, which, when you practice your habit in my presence permeates my clothes, making them smell, not to mention is breathed in by me without my consent and adversely affects my health.

i have a little vice too, i like to drink a dozen or so stubbies of beer of an evening. if i do that in your presence it has no impact on your health or the smell of your clothes. UNLESS - i am as inconsiderate as you smokers are and i allow the residue of my vice to impact on you.

If you are a smoker, please understand that if i stand on a chair and pee on you im only sharing the residue of my vice with you the same way you do for me

This is EXACTLY what I meant.

[silentC]

I don't think there is any hard evidence relating to passive smoking. A lot of studies have been done and there is some statistical support for the likelihood that passive smoking can cause health problems.

There was a case recently though where the jury found in favour of a woman suing the Port Kembla RSL club because she contracted throat cancer which she blamed on passive smoking while working behind the bar. So at least legally there is evidence of it. If you think about it, someone breathing the air in at close proximity must be getting some of the smoke in their lungs.

I don't agree with jumping down people's throats about it but I think there is a good case for getting it out of confined public spaces, even if it's just to cover the butts of people like the Port Kembla RSL club. What people want to do to their bodies should be up to them.

It does stink a bit though. I usually have a ciggy or two when I go to the pub but when I don't, I notice that I feel like I've been smoking the next morning.

[JDarvall]

I can only imagine why you would want to imagine what that would look like.

well,,,yes,,,,um,,,,,Well I can only imagine why you would ' imagine why you would want to imagine what that would look like'....so there :D

And with passive smoking. Don't think its a big deal, unless your, like said before, in some confined space and it building up into a fog, like in a bar. But outside I think its no problem.....In fact, I actually like the smell of it. People ask me 'do you mind if I smoke ? ' ....and I say, 'go for it, love it' ....My pleasure, because I can have a smoke without having to risk getting adicted again. Anyhow, even if I did mind that person smoking. I'd never risk sounding like some kind of tobacco cop tightar*e. Prefer to put up with it, wouldn't you ?

Oh, I did forget something where I think smoking is a big nono. When kids are involved. Then I'd definetly sound like a tobacco cop tightar*e. Especially the very young, whilst there so vulnerable.

[zenwood]

I hate having to walk through the cloud of smoke...:mad:
I'm with Cliff. I once caught a cab that reeked of smoke, and was stuck there all the way to the airport.:mad: Yuck! Only happened once, thankfully. Entrances to shopping malls: I hold my breath.:mad: While waiting for the train, if someone smokes upwind, I have to move upwind of them.:mad: Thankfully no-one at work smokes:)

Sometimes I go to a pub or whatever and my clothes reek of smoke the next morning.:mad:

I once heard a nice reply to someone who complained about people who complain about cigarette smoke: "who would you like it if you were having a nice meal at a restaurant, and I came over and f@rted in your face?!"

I once smelled smoke in the house after my daughter had some friends over?:mad: Reminded her of her grandmother's horrible death, and to tell her friends to smoke beyond the boundaries of the house block. I didn't want cigarette butts in the yard, or smoke anywhere near the house. She now claims only to be a 'social smoker'!!:mad::mad:

[Cliff Rogers]

well,,,yes,,,,um,,,,,Well I can only imagine why you would ' imagine why you would want to imagine what that would look like'....so there :D .....


Outback, this joker is stealing your lines. :D

[Gingermick]

My pleasure, because I can have a smoke without having to risk getting adicted again.

I'm guessing that you found it very hard to quit. Do you struggle to stay off them as well?