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Daddles
6th August 2005, 07:02 PM
I'm so proud of my little dog - Skipper.

We used to think that he only barked at the ex, and he was lauded for that. But a few minutes ago, I discovered that the also barks at door to door phone salesmen. He is indeed an intelligent dog. That is why he was nominated 'Navigator of the Year' as shown in this photo ( "the fish are over there Dad, over there")

Cheers
Richard

zenwood
6th August 2005, 07:07 PM
Our neighbours have a dog that barks when they're out of the house. Any recommendations for shutting it up?

fxst
6th August 2005, 07:11 PM
lead pellet behind the ear? :D
a bait? :confused:
wait until they go to bed then ring them and mention their dog barks constantly when they are out and you find it annoying :mad:
Pete

MajorPanic
6th August 2005, 07:50 PM
Look a target!!!! get out of the way Daddles!!!!!!! or you will be shot! :D

PhilMcCrackin
6th August 2005, 08:31 PM
Our neighbours have a dog that barks when they're out of the house. Any recommendations for shutting it up?
Doesn't the 21st Century have electro zapping collars for these type of dogs? I think when they bark they are delivered a charge of electricity or something.

If you do happen to get hold of one let me know as I would love to give one to my neighbor. It might fix her moaning and groanings. I tell you I have never heard such a racket before.

Driver
6th August 2005, 08:38 PM
Hey, Richard!

Where's the rest of your boat?

echnidna
6th August 2005, 08:40 PM
Hey, Richard!

Where's the rest of your boat?

The dog's looking for it

Daddles
6th August 2005, 09:22 PM
The dog's looking for it

Stop being rude, that's all of it dammit. :mad:

It's okay, MIK's designing me a bigun - room for the dog, room for me and me daughter, room for the shotgun ... um ... I'm not sure I've discussed that last one with him. :confused:

As for noisy dogs. I used to use one of the citronella collars on one of my collies. Gee he was a sweet smelling collie when I got home. Did didly squat for his woofing fetish though dammit. My other collie was a sweetie - he asked permission before he woofed at anything.

Seriously, those citronella collars, available from most councils, work well with some dogs. Sadly, with dogs like Zac, my overly excited collie, nothing works. These considerations have a lot to do with why Skipper, my current dog, a Spitz cross, lives inside and is locked inside the house when I'm out. He's not a chronic woofer, but I suspect it wouldn't take much to make him one. Most noisy dogs (not all) are just bored - victims of the 'buy a dog and leave him alone in the back yard' syndrome. The most effective cure there is to ban the owners from dog ownership, not to condemn the dog. In Skipper's case, I work hard to prevent bad habits from forming and to manage the ones that inevitably do. This was coupled with carefully choosing the dog for his temperament before everything else. The result is a dog that's a wee bit bigger than I wanted, certainly hairier than I wanted, but with the perfect temperament for a family that includes very young kids. In practice, he's the soccer club sweetheart, the world's biggest sook and a great companion. He won't drive Attilla the Hun away, but who cares.

Cheers
Richard

Zed
6th August 2005, 09:33 PM
Daddles,

the dog in a the boat deserves a reddie, so does the hat. Are you sure you're not gay ? :D

Daddles
6th August 2005, 09:39 PM
What's wrong with the rotten hat? That was official issue to flag marshals at one of the F1 Grand Prix's I flagged at (can't remember which one now).

As for the dog. You try carrying a Golden Retriever in a boat that size. Mate, Skipper might be small but he's got all the characteristics of a big mutt with a fraction of the physical challenges. :D

Cheers
Richard

Daddles
6th August 2005, 09:43 PM
Ahem, incidentally my dear Zed, referring of course to the cherry on my tree, Skipper is not a yapster. Doesn't yap at all. Has the occasional woof at other dogs, the ex and door to door salesmen (all of which I submit are understandable if not desirable, especially the ex), but apart from that, is the model of canine non-woofitude.

Richard
dammit, my halo slipped :D

echnidna
6th August 2005, 09:48 PM
Hey Zed the dog's a Spitz not a Pomerainian.

Zed
6th August 2005, 10:06 PM
daddles, using words like "yapster", "woofitude" etc are sure signs of the bottomless trouser wearing brigade. we should do a poll... I reckon your making up the ex. :D :D

incidently whats wrong with door to door phone salesmen ? If/when a dog like yours barks at me (excuse me for calling it barking of course, but I dont know the word for "lisping bark") I just laugh - the local magpies swoop the one across the road and even when it barks at them they treat it with contempt! :D they give it the french Pah!



















Kidding! :D

Driver
6th August 2005, 10:11 PM
Stop being rude, that's all of it dammit. :mad:

Rude? Maaate, I was merely expressing concern.

The boat in your avatar is clearly proportioned more generously than the one bearing you, your canine companion (who, by the way, looks to be deserving of your obvious affection) and that amazing exemplar of the milliner's art atop your distinguished scone. My concern was that if, indeed, the craft in question was the same as that in your avatar, someone had feloniously made away with more than half of the hull.

It appears, however, that this is not the case and that the vessel in the photograph must therefore be different from the seemingly noble craft under construction as depicted in your avatar.

(Jeez! The red's working well this evening :rolleyes: ).

Enquiring minds, therefore, are constrained to enquire as to the whereabouts and indeed the provenance of the avatar vessel. What's the story? Hmmmm?

Col

Daddles
6th August 2005, 10:11 PM
daddles, using words like "yapster",

Actually my dear Zed, you were the one to coin the term 'yapster', or don't you remember the reputation you gave me.

Richard

Zed
6th August 2005, 10:21 PM
Actually my dear Zed, you were the one to coin the term 'yapster', or don't you remember the reputation you gave me.

Richard

No. does my avatar look like an elephant ? what sort of memory retention do you think a 1 yr old chimp has ?

Zed
6th August 2005, 10:26 PM
now, these are REAL dogs!

Daddles
6th August 2005, 10:27 PM
Ahh Driver, back in the dim, dark ages - PD (pre-divorce), I owned a holiday house. At said holiday house were the sort-of-operational remains of an old, fibreglass dinghy. So I thought I'd build a new one. In my innocence, I chose a design that would fit into the back of my Tarago ... so, of course, a month after starting the boat, I sold the Tarago. I've since lost the holiday house as well.

Grrr.

Anyway, I persevered with the design. Afterall, it was from a respected designer wasn't it :rolleyes: . I tried to ignore the experienced boat builders who rolled their eyes and muttered things like 'that's a horrible way to build a boat'. I suffered through the errors in the plans, the sheer insanity of some of the things I was required to do, made the appropriate 'fixes' and 'redesigns' to make the thing actually buildable, and finally got it into the water. Only to discover that the flamin' rowlocks are miles out of position :mad: . It works well if I have a 50kg child sitting on the back seat. So you may assume that I'm not overly happy with said tub. Having said that, it does work, I just have to be careful about how I ballast it and where I sit when rowing. She's roomy and stable for fishing in flat water, which is what she was built for, but I certainly wouldn't want to take some of the long, rowing voyages the designer talks about without a 2hp motor mounted on the back (at a weight of about 50 kg surprise, surprise).

But the new boat.

Oh joy, the new boat. :D

Fifteen feet of purpose built rowboat. :D

Designed by one of nature's true gentlemen. :D

With more than enough room for dog and daughter :D

But more of that when I build more than a cardboard model.

Cheers
Richard

echnidna
6th August 2005, 10:32 PM
now, these are REAL dogs!

Poor frightened puppies too scared to fix up a pussy cat.

A spitz would be wearing it as a furcoat very fast.

Daddles
6th August 2005, 10:32 PM
Now, my avatar vessel.

That is a rendering of David Payne's Yellowtail. Fourteen feet of sailing vessel. I did a 6 month boat building course at TAFE where we built two of these. The boat in the avatar is one of those. So, although I can't claim to have built it, I have handled every piece of timber in that hull. Currently, I am cleaning out the epoxy overruns, preparing her for filleting and final construction. She will become the family sail/motor boat ... eventually. I keep getting sidetracked. For instance, the last couple of weeks have been wasted building another Mouseboat ... so my son's friends can go boating with him.

Cheers
Richard

Daddles
6th August 2005, 10:35 PM
Poor frightened puppies too scared to fix up a pussy cat.

A spitz would be wearing it as a furcoat very fast.

To be fair, that cat's name was 'Sgt Major' and the dogs watching were all especially chosen for their common sense - they knew not to attack said cat. :D

It's a great piccy of well trained dogs isn't it. Some of those dogs aren't even acknowledging that cat, let alone feeling tempted to chase it, though one does have to wonder about the arrogance of the cat. :eek:

Richard

Zed
6th August 2005, 10:50 PM
if you look closely there are a number of dogs who are exceptionally well trained, they acknowledge the cat, are eagerly tracking it and have even shifted hindquarters to track it better but still remain seated.
I used to train dogs and it is exceedingly difficult to acheive dogs in a row let alone with a distraction like the cat. its quite easy to see which dog has no eyes except for its master - they are looking at the boss not the cat. i reckon if one breaks the rest will tear the cat to peices as they'll break together and one will bump another etc....

having said that this could be a frame up - maybe the cat is not really there!

Daddles
6th August 2005, 10:57 PM
I've been into the dog training as well. I'd like to think it's a genuine photo and a testament to the handlers. Most of those dogs are pretty young (look at their colouring) so it's a good effort. I'm not sure I want to be told it's a con job. :D

Funniest thing we did when training dogs was to leave them all in a group at night, and then move out of the range of the light. We all moved around them, telling our dogs to 'stay' periodically, so they got to hear our voices coming from all sorts of directions. It was funny watching those dogs do their out of sight stays for the next month or so - they'd keep looking all around them for their handler, whereas the dogs who didn't do it just looked to where the boss had disappeared. Mind you, I don't think it improved their stays any, but it was fun.

Richard

Driver
6th August 2005, 10:57 PM
having said that this could be a frame up - maybe the cat is not really there!


There's something not quite right about this photo. I've met cats who would have no problem playing "Chicken" like this with any number of dogs, well-trained or otherwise. When I was a kid, we had an old tomcat at home who could terrorise any dog in the neighbourhood merely by walking past. Picture Horse from the old Footrot Flats cartoons and you'll get the idea.

However, back to the photo. Moggy chutzpah notwithstanding, I've never seen a cat who would casually stroll through a puddle. It's a feline instinct to avoid treading in water when jumping over it is such a simple option.

(Incidentally, Zed: thanks for the greenie but don't be offensive! ;) I'm not a lawyer and, anyway, what makes you think a lawyer would write that well? :p )

Daddles
6th August 2005, 11:14 PM
My Siamese would walk past a line of dogs like that ...

but that's because he's an arrogant halfwit and would be dog breakfast before he'd even realised he was in trouble :rolleyes:

Cheers
Richard

E. maculata
7th August 2005, 12:21 AM
G'day all,
many moons ago me ole mate reggies' (11 yr old red P/Bred B/collie, 90cm nose to base of tail, 22" at shoulders, square muzzled, 35kg of raw energy in his prime in other terms a bit on the largish size for his breed, and still loves the kids to the death, but don't come through the door at night if he doesn't know you well) Grandad was torn to pieces and killed by a bull mastiff x rotty, yet 6 months beforehand SWMBOs' old ginger cat had terrorised this "pigdog" right up to the point of it standing on the roof of its' owners car, while said cat circled the car growling at it.
Simple tactics, get in rip dogs nose to streds, circle round do it again, worked on every dog it ever met, size and ferocity were irrelevant to it, I still have scars on my forearms from the B!tch of a thing.


BTW if you couldn't work it out our collies are part of our pack.

Daddles
7th August 2005, 01:21 AM
The thing to remember with cats is that they have six ends, five of which are pointy :eek:

Richard

Gingermick
7th August 2005, 09:04 AM
Hey Daddles,

Are you a boat-person?

Daddles
7th August 2005, 12:48 PM
Hey Daddles,

Are you a boat-person?

Yup :D

Richard

Gingermick
7th August 2005, 01:29 PM
Queue jumper, I've got about 40kg of hairy, slobbering Malamute cross and he barks and is loud. Except when he's asleep and you could come in a steal the house, but bump his food bowl, even if he's 50m away and he comes runnig. Also three cats that meow in this incessant, caterwauling cat wail. I'm not cruel but I do sometimes ask them to be quiet,...with my foot.

doug the slug
7th August 2005, 02:44 PM
Well i reckon all cats should be conditioned into believing dogs are harmless by parading them in front of a group of well-trained dogs like the ones above till they have no fear of dogs. then they should be exposed to a group of real, untrained dogs............

shaunburgess
8th August 2005, 10:10 AM
My tough male dog, would want to play with the cat....But my 2 females would kill it just because it walked near them. Not a bad thing, considering what cats do. People need to stop confusing well trained with intelligent my dogs are extremly smart, but being Spitz breed, no way in the world they would put up with being told what to do by a person!

go the spitz:D