Road Safety idea with Samsung trucks in Argentina

[crowie]

What a good idea. Have a look folks.


WOW! How simple yet amazing! Let’s hope our authorities will stand up & take notice of this new technology.

Could prevent a lot of deaths & heartache.
Guess though that we’d need it on every automobile using our roads, as EVERY motorist is far too impatient. Bring it on!

What a great product.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/ZetSRWchM4w?rel=0

[Jone5y]

Could, but won't. there's no way it'd get approval here for fear of litigation.

great idea, especially for country areas but our government has less interest in saving lives than it does collecting revenue.

[wheelinround]

Sure looks great doesn't it.

Illegal here can't have rearward facing light emitting other than red (stop & Tail ) and amber (indicators).

Personally it would scare the crap out of me seeing a vehicle on my side of the road coming through the back of a truck.

Camera only shows whats in front & oncoming NOT whats at the side imagine that with a B-double or road train (one place they would be fantastic). Nothing visually on the screen just clear road ahead pull out only to find your head on with a shorter semi, small truck, or motorbike.

Trouble is if people are not watching the road ahead now and sitting so close he truckie as the signs says "If you can't see my Mirrors, I can''t see you"!!!

with out this technology people are dozing off when nothing is in front I can see a lot of rear end deaths as they laps into "Oh the road ahead is clear and put the foot down"

But officer he had his indicator on! Well I think it was his indicator might have been the vehicle in front or one coming the other way.!

Imagine travelling any of our 3 lane highways with 3 trucks side by side with that glaring at you such as the M1 north of Sydney or heading to Melb where traffic oncoming often can't be seen at all.

One screen area broken and does the truck pull over till its repaired? Ok best turn it off.

The rear doors would make a Man Cave screen for watching such as Bathurst brilliant.:U

[Tonyz]

Put a decent movie on and I'd be (tempted :p) to slow down and watch movie

[Handyjack]

I can just imagine what the reports in a few years say.
The number of head on collisions have been reduced however there has been a large increase in vehicles running into backs of trucks with large screens at the rear. Surviving drivers when asked said the road ahead was clear ahead, but then they ran into something solid.

[rwbuild]

It seems to me that wizbang gadgetry by vehicle manufacturers (marketing ploy) are becoming just to smart for our own good and the net result is duming down drivers and removing responsibility and ability of drivers. What happens when all the gadgetry fails or malfunctions? Sue the manufacturer but don't bother educating and training the person behind the wheel. You can't put brains in statues.

I will admit that some technology/gadgetry is worthwhile ie: ABS, hill assist to name just 2. What we need is a CSB and a PB in every vehicle (common sense button and patience button).

[elanjacobs]

I'm with wheelinround, sounds like a good idea but once you actually think of all the details it loses its shine.

If the camera on the front is misaligned, who's responsibility is it to fix? Who faces the lawsuit when someone crashes because they relied on the screen? What happens at night? Night vision camera? At any rate, a massive screen like that at night would mess with your eyes ability to see anything in the dark.

How about this for a road safety idea: make sure people ACTUALLY know how to drive properly. A lot of the new sensors/cameras/gadgets are making people worse drivers. They don't need to know how big their car is or where other cars are or if they're veering out of their lane because some computer will beep or flash at them and remind them to stop playing with the touchscreen info-tainment system and actually drive the car.

[Twisted Tenon]

What Wheelinround said, but to take this idea to the next step, what if trucks & buses etc mounted wi-fi cameras on top of their cabins that the following vehicles could pick up on their own monitors. Takes the responsibility off the truckies. Places the responsibility on the following cars. If you don't want to do it, just don't buy the technology and do it old school. Times are a changing and the robot (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-05/06/self-driving-freight-trucks) era is upon us :D

TT

[wheelinround]

What Wheelinround said, but to take this idea to the next step, what if trucks & buses etc mounted wi-fi cameras on top of their cabins that the following vehicles could pick up on their own monitors. Takes the responsibility off the truckies. Places the responsibility on the following cars. If you don't want to do it, just don't buy the technology and do it old school. Times are a changing and the robot (http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-05/06/self-driving-freight-trucks) era is upon us :D

TT

WiFi hackers would have a field day. News item of recent days where a whole car was taken over/hacked driven and not a sole in it.

Then again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o43nqvq4BOA

[elanjacobs]

WiFi hackers would have a field day. News item of recent days where a whole car was taken over/hacked driven and not a sole in it.

Then again https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o43nqvq4BOA
Hacking is only a problem when the manufacturers are stupid about how they go about their system (which most of them are). As long as mission-critical systems are kept totally separate (ie separate computer, not accessible wirelessly AT ALL) from info-tainment, the worst a hacker could do is fiddle with your radio and navigation.

[Twisted Tenon]

Yeah but Ray I'm sure the Wright bros heard "it'll never fly Orville" before they got it right. And your YouTube link shows us the future is already here. The dark side approaches....:D


TT

[Chris Parks]

I can see it now, video adverts on the back of trucks.:oo:

[rwbuild]

Yeah but Ray I'm sure the Wright bros heard "it'll never fly Orville" before they got it right. And your YouTube link shows us the future is already here. The dark side approaches....:D


TT

Planes are now flown and operated by very highly skilled and trained pilots and in the event of system failures short of catastrophic can still fly/land the plane as opposed to 99% of the driving population that know how to operate a vehicle as opposed to being able to drive with skill and awareness.

[Chris Parks]

Planes are now flown and operated by very highly skilled and trained pilots and in the event of system failures short of catastrophic can still fly/land the plane as opposed to 99% of the driving population that know how to operate a vehicle as opposed to being able to drive with skill and awareness.

Are you in the 99% or the 1% Ray? Why is it everyone thinks the rest of Australia can't drive and they are the only ones who can.

[rwbuild]

Are you in the 99% or the 1% Ray? Why is it everyone thinks the rest of Australia can't drive and they are the only ones who can.

Spent a lot of years attending MVA's, not pleasant. Also spent a lot of my driving time getting out of the way of other drivers.
Yes, I have had accidents myself, fortunately minor, and they have been my fault as a result of inattention and have learnt from them.
My wife has a steel rod embedded in her skull which supports her neck that has the vertebra fused and she has limited movement now which affects normal daily life and can no longer drive as a result of someone in the other vehicle.
I have also instructed in driving techniques for people who already have a license and their lack of driving skill is terrible.

[Chris Parks]

I reiterate what I wrote earlier. I did many driving courses one took two months to complete, taught advanced and defensive driving and raced and rallied over a lot of this country, then I got serious and drove for a living for 40 years which was an eye opener. Strange isn't it, everyone else is an idiot and we all think it and I have yet to find someone who doesn't think that way.

[A Duke]

Like Sterling Moss said "Never tell a man he is no good at driving or making love."

We are all number one and the woman are getting as bad.:wink:

[crowie]

Apologies Gents & Ladies for starting this fuss......:C.....

I did think it was a good idea....:rolleyes:.....

Anything & everything is worthwhile having a go, to curbed the road toll or should I say the aftermath of vehicle collisions were people are hurt & or maimed....

So again apologies for upsetting anyone or creating disharmony amidst my fellow woodworkers.....:-......
Cheers, crowie

[Twisted Tenon]

I did think it was a good idea....:rolleyes:.....

Anything & everything is worthwhile having a go, to curbed the road toll or should I say the aftermath of vehicle collisions were people are hurt & or maimed....
crowie

It's a good thread crowie. I think the secret for safe driving is that you assume that every one else is a threat and drive accordingly. :D
TT

[rwbuild]

Apologies Gents & Ladies for starting this fuss......:C.....

I did think it was a good idea....:rolleyes:.....

Anything & everything is worthwhile having a go, to curbed the road toll or should I say the aftermath of vehicle collisions were people are hurt & or maimed....

So again apologies for upsetting anyone or creating disharmony amidst my fellow woodworkers.....:-......
Cheers, crowie

It is a good idea Peter but I think it would be open to abuse very quickly ie: the mob and terrorists would have a field day, hack it with a movie, real time abuse from truck driver, or do I have a suspicious mind.

You can't get people to obey speed signs, traffic lights, etc. Once something becomes a common thing in every day life, people go into auto pilot mode and switch off mentally.

[wheelinround]

Peter I can't see any need to apologise. I hope my comments only shed some light on things as I have seen it without the use of these rear screens. Although I have driven a coach with a reversing camera one of the first many years ago in 80's it was found by most drivers who drove that vehicle to be 1 a distraction 2 useless for seeing around corners 3 Those who did like it began to over use it and had more accidents all be them minor scrapes mostly pulling into and out of coach bays or parking spots they watched the screen not the mirrors the company owner had the camera disconnected after the 3rd side window smashed hitting a street sign.

All the new reversing cameras in vehicles and the new auto-parking where drivers may sit in the vehicle and in some cars do not even have to be in the vehicle shall become the norm I think. BUT as our laws here all state "The Driver must be in control of the vehicle at all times"!!!! If you can't use a mobile phone yet thats how some of these self parking vehicles such as the new Audi work off the phone. Driver doesn't even have to be in the car.

Now for someone like myself or any disabled driver or non driver this has great promise the benefits could be far reaching.

This was 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YVfb779tUo


This is 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDwMhSobaOg

[Vernonv]

It seems the amount of time you spend driving has little to do with your actual skill level ... although maybe it just improves your perceived skill level :rolleyes:.

My wife and daughter did a trip from Armidale up to Brisbane, Toowoomba and back again over the weekend, and during that trip where lucky not to get wiped out by trucks ("professional" drivers) on 2 separate occasions.

The first incident my wife was driving and was overtaking a B-Double ... she was in the right hand overtaking lane. Her vehicle was in the middle of the front section of the truck when the truck driver just decided to merge into the right hand lane ... this was at the "left lane ends 500m" mark. She had no choice but to move into the oncoming lane.

The second incident my daughter was driving (a red P plater i.e. 90km/hr speed limited). This truck (B-Double) was tailgating her as they where approaching an overtaking lane (2km to go sign) when he decided to overtake her then, rather than wait for the overtaking lane. He hadn't gotten half way past when an oncoming car came over the rise ahead. The driver just decided to merge back in. My daughter had to brake heavily and move onto the shoulder to avoid a collision. The oncoming vehicle also had to brake.

So much for "professional" drivers ....