The Official Cricket Thread

[silentC]

I think it was a tough call, even for a Kiwi. Just a shame that they got so close.

Anyway, I don't think we deserved to win it. No-one would've expected Lee and Kasper to get that close and they shouldn't have been in the position. If the shoe was on the other foot, how would the batsmen get on if they had to bowl?

Three to go and on past form, England will choke. If they win the series, they can get excited then.

[Daddles]

So bloody Bowden's got it wrong again, and this time it really did matter.

Sorry, I used to like the thought of a bit of a character as an umpire, but after watching the clown live for two days, I started to realise that his ability is as dodgy as his antics. Really, I was amazed at how he carries on and just how dodgy he is as an umpire. He should NOT be umpiring at international level. This doesn't prove it, just gives me something else to growl about. Umpires will make mistakes - it happens and I'm one of those funny ones who believes that they should be allowed to make blues and not to can them with slow motion, freeze frame, computer generated images. However, at the matches, I could pick flaws with BB from the boundary line using field glasses, some of his errors and misjudgements were obvious without the glasses and he copped a lot of derision as we watched the big screen replay. He shouldn't be out there.

And the now he's ruined a match. I don't care if it was a very hard decision to judge. All his other problems cancel that consideration out for me.

Grumps
Richard
hmm, must be overdue for me flu tablet

[silentC]

Ah yes but I'm sure Bowden has made few calls that have caused Ponting to thank his lucky stars for short-sighted, eccentric Kiwis too.

[Gumby]

Dean Jones was on the radio this morning. He was really ****** off that we let that test get away but even more annoyed at Bowden. A couple of 'plumb' LB's weren't given by him when the poms were batting.

I think his antics are becoming boring too.

[Daddles]

One thing Billy Bowden is NOT and that's biased. I think he's out there genuinely trying to do the fairest and best job he can. He's just not up to it.

That's the thing about dodgy decisions - the impact they have on the game depends on when they happen. With only two runs or one wicket between a decision, you've got to be real careful. Anyone who's watched cricket for any period knows that the mistakes all balance out over a series or so.

I'm not grumpy with BB for muffing this call, just that a dud call wasn't a surprise coming from him.

Now, if we want 'good' umpiring, we need only think back over the years to some of the games on the sub-continent where a local batsman could sometimes hope to escape a clean bowled decision :rolleyes: (I exagerate but there have been times when I've wondered by how much). And I know we've produced a few questionable umps over the years. But I also know the cricket world has some very good umpires available to it. I never did like the 'neutral' umpire rule - I don't remember any problems about bias in Ashes tests in the past when Aussie and/or Pommy umpires were used. If they are the best available (and I'm not claiming they necessarily are), they should be used. Besides, why should an ump miss out on working in his own country?

Bah
Humbug
Grrrrrrrr
Richard
I think I'll wash down me next flu tablet with scotch

[Daddles]

... He was really ****** off that we let that test get away ...

That's the telling point isn't it. Regardless of the umpiring, we should not have let this test get away from us. We've got batsmen who claim to be among the best in the world, well, they can flamin' well hit some runs ... well, a couple more would have been good :D

Richard

[Driver]

That's the telling point isn't it. Regardless of the umpiring, we should not have let this test get away from us. We've got batsmen who claim to be among the best in the world, well, they can flamin' well hit some runs ... well, a couple more would have been good :D

Richard


You're right - a couple more would have been good. But you're also wrong. The Aussie batsmen don't just claim to be among the best in the world. They have proved that they are the best in the world.

There are three more Test matches to come in this series. If they're all as exciting as the Edgbaston Test then - as spectators - we'll have nothing to complain about.

Personally, I can't wait.

[silentC]

If they're all as exciting as the Edgbaston Test
God I hope not. I don't think myself or Mrs C could stand it....

[jow104]

What's all the fuss about, we'ed have got him next ball anyway, don't forget I was doing my bit on the TV set at home. ;)

[Gumby]

I saw the replay of you turning off your TV John and it clearly showed that you didn't actually turn it off. :D

And by the way Ricky.....

Give Hussey a bat !!!!

[Gingermick]

I think I'll wash down me next flu tablet with scotch
Flu tablets will just stimulate you, forget the Tablet and make the Scotch a triple. And follow it off with a few more.

[RETIRED]

Ah, it's all in the marketing script. :D

[HappyHammer]

So bloody Bowden's got it wrong again, and this time it really did matter.

Sorry, I used to like the thought of a bit of a character as an umpire, but after watching the clown live for two days, I started to realise that his ability is as dodgy as his antics. Really, I was amazed at how he carries on and just how dodgy he is as an umpire. He should NOT be umpiring at international level. This doesn't prove it, just gives me something else to growl about. Umpires will make mistakes - it happens and I'm one of those funny ones who believes that they should be allowed to make blues and not to can them with slow motion, freeze frame, computer generated images. However, at the matches, I could pick flaws with BB from the boundary line using field glasses, some of his errors and misjudgements were obvious without the glasses and he copped a lot of derision as we watched the big screen replay. He shouldn't be out there.

And the now he's ruined a match. I don't care if it was a very hard decision to judge. All his other problems cancel that consideration out for me.

Grumps
Richard
hmm, must be overdue for me flu tablet
I think you guys will find BB should have given Kasper plum LBW a couple of overs before so alls well that ends well.:D

Great Test, very exciting. Role on Thursday.

HH.

[silentC]

Yeah well it looks as though Lee is out for this one. They were talking about dropping Kasper for Stewie but that might change now that Lee is uncertain.

You can't say we're not giving the poms their best chance of winning it.

BTW I think that people who immigrate to Australia should be forced by penalty of expulsion to support the Australian cricket team. You can't have your cake and eat it too. :p

[craigb]

Is Lee definitely out? I thought he was just "in doubt".

He did take a pretty big whack on the hand on Sunday though.

[silentC]

Just heard on the radio that they want him to fully recover from a knee infection before they let him bowl again. Not sure what that means.

[HappyHammer]

BTW I think that people who immigrate to Australia should be forced by penalty of expulsion to support the Australian cricket team. You can't have your cake and eat it too. :p
:D :D Come on I've only been here 10 years, if Australia become the underdogs and lose the attitude I'll think about it:D

Although my wife is of a similar opinion to you and calls me a traitor when I support QLD in the State of Origin and England in the Cricket. I think I can't help supporting the underdog I think it comes from my support of West Ham who have broken my heart on many occaisions but still I support them.:confused: :D

HH.

[silentC]

if Australia become the underdogs and lose the attitude
This is what I don't get. With Australia it's "attitude" but with England it's "bulldog spirit".

[HappyHammer]

I know what you're saying and England have built up a little attitude with recent successes. Maybe you need attitude to be successful, although it's a bit chicken and egg with success breeding the attitude but getting the success requiring attitude to some degree. We'll have to wait a while to see if they get an opportunity to build real attitude after the series is complete.;)

I'm just bitter and twisted 'cause you've whipped us so often.:D

HH.

[silentC]

This is attitude: :D

http://cricmania.com/afpNews/SGE.FGC58.080405163542.photo00.photo.default-384x372.jpg

[Grunt]

I'm just bitter and twisted 'cause you've whipped us so often.


Yeah, SilentC has been known to do this sort of thing.

[HappyHammer]

His whites seem to have special ventilation in the crutch, maybe this was just his expression after having the stump removed.:D

HH.

[HappyHammer]

As opposed to:D
http://www.gg2.net/upload/worn-8407.jpg
HH.

[silentC]

Well there you go, the pictures tell it all. Warnie's not in the same league. His whites are intact (we assume)....

[Gumby]

here we go again. Have a bat Mr Vaughan.

GMc is playing !!!!

[boban]

I cannot believe he lost the toss. It was so obviously tails. Steve was so much better at the toss.

[Gumby]

Gilchrist dropped one ! Geez, you could have cut it, shellaced it and buffed it witth EEE while it was in the air. It was THAT slow. Bloody hell :mad:

[lesmeyer]

Gilchrist dropped one ! Geez, you could have cut it, shellaced it and buffed it witth EEE while it was in the air. It was THAT slow. Bloody hell :mad:
Not happy Jan.
Les

[Ashore]

I cannot believe he lost the toss. It was so obviously tails. Steve was so much better at the toss.
He is also taller than ponting , so was he a bigger and better tosser, Your definition not mine .





Useless infomation for the day

Virginity like bubble, one prick, all gone.

[jow104]

Didn't turn on the tv until they broke for lunch after bad experiences at previous matches .

So 93 for 1 at lunch, promising start.

[Gumby]

Didn't turn on the tv until they broke for lunch after bad experiences at previous matches .

So 93 for 1 at lunch, promising start.

If only he held that catch :(

[craigb]

Why is Gillespie playing?

Much as I am an admirerer of his past deeds I think he's done nothing on this tour and it's time the indulgence stopped.

Perhaps it's just that Punter doesn't know how to get the best out of his troops?

Why didn't he bowl Warney before lunch?

Questions questions

[Cliff Rogers]

Well, it's now tea on the first day... the track is flat as a F'n biccie.. & we have more fast bowlers than batsman & no fielders... I think we are F'd.... yet again...
Get ya finger off the phone Shane, we need you.

[HappyHammer]

If only he held that catch :(

Which one :D :D :D :D :D :D

HH.

[Gumby]

Why is Gillespie playing?

Bloody good question.


Why didn't he bowl Warney before lunch?

Questions questions

He said on the radio this morning that the ball was starting to reverse swing and when that happens, you have to take as much advantage of it as possible. I'm not too sure about Punter, or a few others for that matter. McGrath and Warnie have carried that team for a long time and to have catches put down like those is just heart breaking. I couldn't watch it after the frist one went down.
:(

How are we going in the Rugby ?

[silentC]

Why is Gillespie playing?

Much as I am an admirerer of his past deeds I think he's done nothing on this tour and it's time the indulgence stopped.
Agreed. In fact I'd go as far as to say Kasper should be there before Bubble Boy. Kasper gets a bad rap from a lot of critics but he's quite handy in the field and he gets wickets too.

Anyway, we (supposedly) have batsmen there who are all capable of century plus scores. We just have to hope they don't collapse again.

[HappyHammer]

Anyway, we (supposedly) have batsmen there who are all capable of century plus scores. We just have to hope they don't collapse again.

Gillespie 59 Overs 3 for 252
Kasper 18 Overs 3 for 109

He's not taking enough wickets.

HH.

[AlexS]

It hurts to see Dizzy being hit around the ground, as he's one of my favourite players. Would like to see Kasper have a shot.

But oh, those dropped catches and not puting Shaaaaaaane on earlier. And sending the Poms in last time. Is this the start of the slippery slope?

[Daddles]

Ahhh come on boys. The other teams are allowed to do well occasionally. Cripes, do you realise we've probably got blokes in our team who've never played a five day test? Played lots of tests that were supposed to go five days, but which didn't.

Richard

[HappyHammer]

I see back to back batting in Australias future in this test....:p

HH.

[silentC]

The other teams are allowed to do well occasionally
I'm sorry, what planet did you say you were from?

You know what they say about young people and their attentions spans. Can you imagine young Clarkey having to pay attention for 5 days? He'd need to bring his Gameboy.

[Grunt]

We would certainly carry a batsman who was out of form for a while if they had been a solid contributor to the side in the past. I don't see why we wouldn't do the same for Dizzy. He bowled quite well in the Australian summer and again in New Zealand.

[Grunt]

He'd need to bring his Gameboy.

You're getting old Darren. You're turning grumpy. :D

[silentC]

Oh yeah, sorry. It's more likely to be an I-Pod :p

[silentC]

Just reading the Herald "England on Top" is the headline. Of course they're on top, they batted first!!

[Grunt]

I woke up at about 2:40 this morning and went for a pee (you needed to know that) turned on the cricket to see that they were 3/330. Woke up this morning and they were 5 for 340. I was thinking we'd be chasing 600 but maybe 400-450 is more like it.

[Gumby]

I woke up at about 2:40 this morning and went for a pee (you needed to know that) turned on the cricket to see that they were 3/330. Woke up this morning and they were 5 for 340. I was thinking we'd be chasing 600 but maybe 400-450 is more like it.

That will still take 2 innings :mad:

[craigb]

We would certainly carry a batsman who was out of form for a while if they had been a solid contributor to the side in the past. I don't see why we wouldn't do the same for Dizzy. He bowled quite well in the Australian summer and again in New Zealand.

Well there's the rub. They have been carrying him for too long and the burden is bginning to tell.
Anyway, didn't you know it's a batsman's game? :D

[Grunt]

I actually think it's a bowlers game. We have been so successful over the past 15 years because of McGrath and Warne. Having good bowlers takes the pressure off the batsmen so they can play an attacking game.

Look at the West Indies of the 80's. They were so good because they had the likes of Holding, Garner, Walsh and Ambrose.

I'm not saying that our batsmen aren't great but if they continually had to chase big scores they would play alot differently.

Hayden is out of form. Should he be dropped?

[craigb]

Hayden is out of form. Should he be dropped?

My oath he should be. :)

I meant it's a batsman's game in that the laws are skwewed in favour of the batsmen.
You know, benefit of the doubt and all that.

And how comes four runs gets added to the bowler if the batsman misses it down the leg side but it hits him on the leg? :confused:

[Gumby]

Look at the West Indies of the 80's. They were so good because they had the likes of Holding, Garner, Walsh and Ambrose.

I think a couplke of blokes named Richards and haynes helped a tad. ;)

[ptc]

Hayden. ?

[jow104]

do I Detect Consternation In The Aussie Camp :d :d :d :d






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[craigb]

do I Detect Consternation In The Aussie Camp :d :d :d :d






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Only a little bit :D

[Grunt]

None from me. I have faith. The poms should have been in a position to post 500+. This won't happen.

[craigb]

None from me. I have faith. The poms should have been in a position to post 500+. This won't happen.

Probably not Grunt. I agree with you .

What's the bet that Hayden comes out and scores a double ton now that I've been slagging him off? :D

Actually, I hope he does but I fear, to quote you "this won't happen" :D

[jow104]

None from me. I have faith. The poms should have been in a position to post 500+. This won't happen.

What the first day!

If that had happened the second day score should reach 1000 :D

[LineLefty]

Hayden out Hussey in.

That would then be:

Hussey (WA)
Langer (WA)
Ponting (Else)
Martyn (WA)
Clarke (Else)
Gilchrist (WA)
Katich (WA) claimed!

I wonder where the batting talent lies? Oh, and Healy out of the cmmentary box and Zoeherer in.

I wouldn't worry about the Poms, they'll crack.

[Daddles]

I can't see what you're all worrying about. It's only the Poms we're playing :D

Why are you complaining about the REAL upset of this whole, bitter experience - they've imported that halfwit Tony Grieg and his moron offsider Richie Derro (or is that Benaud) to do the commentary :eek:

Not only are they painful to listen to, but have you noticed that Greig is even more biased towards the poms than the poms themselves? :rolleyes:

Still, we won't have to listen to too much - we'll have the poms beaten by the tea break sunday. :D

Richard

[Grunt]

Why are you complaining about the REAL upset of this whole, bitter experience - they've imported that halfwit Tony Grieg and his moron offsider Richie Derro (or is that Benaud) to do the commentary


Foxtel is worth the money just because of this.

[craigb]

Foxtel is worth the money just because of this.

Yep yep yep. :D

"Not having to listen to Tony Grieg?: Priceless" :D

Foxtel have Brendon Julian and Junior (for this match, last time it was AB) discussing the state of play whenver there's a break. Lunch, drinks etc.

You do get Botham and Mr "Boring" Bob Willis though :(

Still anything's better than Grieg

[old fart]

If only they could Pi-- Geoff Boycott of as a commentator!

When Gilly dropped that catch he and Michael Slater were commentating

Boycotts comment was "Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of blokes"

I though Bill Lawry was bad enough!!!!

What a pr....!

[Gumby]

Boycott was a prick when playing too. Selfish barstool he was.

[craigb]

Well for most of that session, the Poms were eating our lunch.

I think that there is beginning to be a bit of a question mark over Ponting's captaincy.

Apart from his negative field placings, I never saw that sort of team body language when Tugger was the captain.

Come back Steve, all is forgiven :D :D

[Grunt]

All out for 444

They were 2 for 290. Last 8 wickets for a little over 150.

[craigb]

What's Warne got to do to get an LB from Bowden?
There were two tonight that were absolutely plumb but not given.

I hope that BB gets a black mark in the captains reports. :(

[Tankstand]

Langer out for 31! :mad:

[Gingermick]

Out of interest, when was the last time Australia was forced to follow on?

[Gumby]

I told you blokes. I told you ! :(

They are crapola ! :mad:

[Gingermick]

It's all down to Gillespie's bloody haircut, (or lack therof) and blee(p)'s receding hairline.

[ptc]

its a bugger when Warne gets more than ponting and hayden combined.
must be the fags.

[Gingermick]

Does warney have a gay cheer squad?

[Daddles]

Stop picking on Warney, of course he does :D

I notice a lot of us (this forum and another I'm on, a fishing forum :eek: ) are having trouble with watching the Aussies play rather ordinary cricket. Not used to it are we. We've had bad games in the past few ... decades, but we've always followed them up well. But this tour - yikes.

I don't think the poms are anything special. They're playing good cricket, good enough to get us into trouble and they aren't letting us escape, but I don't think they are playing well enough to be the cause of our woes. The whole team is underperforming except Warney and McGrath ... and Lee though hasn't he been a bit dodgy as well? Anyways, it matters not. Dropped catches? Aussies don't drop catches. Mild bowling? Not our attack. Mediocre batting? Not the best batsmen in the world ... though it's the Poms who are the batting gurus at the moment.

It seems to me, the whole team has flattened out. Lacks that fizz that made it so special and that, dear reader, points to the captain. He's the one responsible for putting that fizz in the team. And Ponting doesn't seem to have it at the moment.

However, I'm not suggesting we should do an England and dump him. He's not the first Aussie captain to start his career on a low, and some of those others went on to be legends. Nah, I reckon we should just get behind the boys, scream abuse at Jow (because he's pommy and silly enough to admit it within a cricket thread :D ) and give Mr Ponting a chance to carve his own notch on the handgrip of aussie cricket.

Besides which, if he doesn't, I'll be really pee'd off coz I'se got usta us winnin' these here cricket games :D

Richard
avoiding preparting for a kid's birthday party - can you tell?

[jow104]

Has anyone seen the cricket score

Don't worry you fellas down under the rain is going to save you this time.

I did my bit for England again, honestly, I did some very careful TV viewing, and got the wife to keep me in touch.

[Tikki]

What's cricket :confused:

[ptc]

An Ex POM here.
JOW 104
it's a great feeling when the boots on the other foot
Went to school in chard.

[Gumby]

never mind the stupid cricket. I'm watching the footy tonight.

Pies v Blues :rolleyes: C'mon Pies , loose this - we need a priority draft pick :D

(sorry if this makes no sense John ,but the cricket is giving me the sh*ts. I'll admit , I'm a bl**dy poor loser.) :rolleyes:

[Grunt]

Gumby, I actually liked you until I found out you were a Collingwoodduck supporter.

Go Dogs, Go Eagles

[craigb]

What the hell are you blokes talking about?

There is only one football game on tonight, Australia v New Zealand :p

Carn 'Straya !!

[Gumby]

Go Dogs, Go Eagles

Make up your mind will ya !

Collingwood supporters only have ONE team and HATE everybody else ;)

[jow104]

An Ex POM here.
JOW 104
it's a great feeling when the boots on the other foot
Went to school in chard.

Sorry PTC, when it comes to sport you are now an Aussie and overdue for a going over. ;)

[outback]

I agree with what Daddles said, 'cept maybe adding Lee as almost an afterthought. I reckon this test he had the acid applied, and he has really come through. Something he has struggled with a bit in the past.

I am a big fan of his, but he can frustrate the crap out of you at times with bloody lazy dodgy bowling, and why oh why can't he keep his foot behind the line. This time however, he has stepped up to the mark :D and carried the pressure well.


Collingwood, isn't that a suburb in South Sydney? They play little league I think, cos they aren't good enough for real football. :D

[craigb]

Actually, I think Hayden and Martin should be sent home.

Make Gilly captain and bat Ponting at 6.

Give Hodge a go at 4 and fly Hussey over to open with Langer.

Too harsh? ;)

[Grunt]

Make up your mind will ya !

Collingwood supporters only have ONE team and HATE everybody else



Sorry I'm orginally from Perth. I became a Doggies member in 2000 just so I could go to the footy with a mate. Kinda like'm now.

Everyone who doesn't support the Pies hates them. However, tonight they are playing Carlton. It's a pitty that one of the teams have to win. And it looks like it's going to be Carlton to take home the points.

[Gumby]

Actually, I think Hayden and Martin should be sent home.

Make Gilly captain and bat Ponting at 6.

Give Hodge a go at 4 and fly Hussey over to open with Langer.

Too harsh? ;)

Send Nathan Buckley over and get rid of Ponting. Bucks can opent the bowling, bat first drop, keep wickets and bring out the drinks. He's a legend. :D

[boban]

As much as I hate to see it, whats happening is fantastic for cricket. Personally I am more interested when we are struggling to win, when its a real effort. In the last few years the cricket has struggled to hold my interest other than when we go to India. Again, because its not a given.

It reminds of all the series against the Windies when we had a chance and nearly always lost in Adelaide and Perth. Damn I used to hate Curtly because he so good. But it was riveting stuff.

Hope it keeps raining though...

Reality is that we have too much talent both in the team and waiting to worry about the long term.

As far as this series is concerned, our biggest mistake is not playing McGill. He's better than Giles and look what he's doing.

[craigb]

I agree that Magiller should be playing. At least he's got a wrong 'un, unlike Warney. :D

[Grunt]

Send Nathan Buckley over and get rid of Ponting. Bucks can opent the bowling, bat first drop, keep wickets and bring out the drinks. He's a legend.


Didn't he used to play for Collingwood?

[craigb]

The more I watch this team, the more I think our problem starts with P and ends in G. Oh yeah, it's also got ontin in the middle. :rolleyes:

Two or possibly three people have put in in this game.

Warne, Lee and Dizzy (but as a batter ferchrisakes :rolleyes: )

They used to say that they'd walk through a brick wall for Steve Waugh. I can't see them walking through custard for Ponting.

So who is going to be the next Aussie captain?

Gilly or Gilly or perhaps Gilly?

Insert your opinion here. :)

[Gumby]

So who is going to be the next Aussie captain?

Gilly or Gilly or perhaps Gilly?

Insert your opinion here. :)

Bucks. :mad:

[silentC]

I reckon they should move Dizzy and Warney up the order. Imagine the look on the Poms faces if they walked on number one and two :eek:

[HappyHammer]

What the hell are you blokes talking about?

There is only one football game on tonight, Australia v New Zealand :p

Carn 'Straya !!

Don't mention the rugby ! :D

HH.

[craigb]

Don't mention the rugby ! :D

HH.

No, don't mention the rugby :(

Is Eddie Jones for the highjump?

[HappyHammer]

Is Eddie Jones for the highjump?

This seems to indicative of the attitude in this thread from all but Grunt, let's cut and slash, things aren't going to plan...

In the words of Clive Dunn......Don't Panic! Don't Panic! :D

HH.

[Daddles]

ARRRRGGGGGHGHHHHHH

PANIC

PANIC

PANIC

Richard

gotta practice my running in circles like a headless pomm ... errr ... chook - I keep spilling my cup of tea :D

[LineLefty]

I reckon they should move Dizzy and Warney up the order. Imagine the look on the Poms faces if they walked on number one and two :eek:

I agree Langer and Dizzy to open the order. Warnie at No.3

Serously though, Langer is is the key here if he can dig in, if he gets out......PANIC or pray for rain.

PS: Simon jones what snotty nose, top-lip trembling, arrogant little pratt. The blue singlet is an aussie icon mate! Can't wait to see Hayden deliver him a few front foot pullshots.

[AlexS]

I reckon they should move Dizzy and Warney up the order. Imagine the look on the Poms faces if they walked on number one and two :eek:

Excellent suggestion...with Ooh-Aah at first wicket. :cool:

[HappyHammer]

Excellent suggestion...with Ooh-Aah at first wicket. :cool:

First what? :confused:

HH.

[jow104]

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the Weather Forecast Is Good Today So Should End With A Good Result For One Of The Teams.






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[LineLefty]

Thems chickens aint hatched Jow.