Pictures gone missing

[Ueee]

I have just been looking through an old thread of mine and to my dismay all the images are missing from the first few pages. http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=148329&page=2

Now i know this happens if a photo bucket etc account is changed or deleted, but these photo's are all on my WWF albums. http://www.woodworkforums.com/album.php?u=74282 Has there been a URL change for these or somesuch?

Seeing as how the lathe in question is one of only 2 i have ever seen on the internet i'd like the images to come back if possible.

Cheers,
Ewan

[Big Shed]

Ewan, have referred your query to the powers that be and they will be looking in to this.

[Ueee]

Thanks Fred,
Our fantastic forum owner is on to it.......:2tsup:
Ew

[ubeaut]

For anyone else who thinks pics have gone missing, here's what we have discovered.

Looks to be tied in with our removal of vBSEO (Search Engine Optimisation) program about 2 1/2 weeks ago. vBSEO was integrated with the forums but no longer being supported by vBulletin and had become a security threat. Took almost 3 weeks to fully uninstall it and get or keep all of our search engine rankings and everything else that went along with it. The problem with pictures was not one we had anticipated or even knew of until Ueee mentioned it in here.

We are working on a universal fix which could take a few days. Only other option is to restore each and every pic individually one at a time and this could take until 2021 if this is a wide spread problem.

Cheers - Neil :U

[Bryan]

Any progress on this? I'm having the same problem.

[ubeaut]

G'day Bryan - 'Twas fixed Feb 25th.

Please send details (url) of the thread/post your pics are missing from and I'll have a look see.

Cheers - Neil :U

[Bryan]

Neil, I hope there's a fix that doesn't require manually editing all of these posts. If it's going to be a headache let me know and I'll just pick the more important ones.

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=146358&p=1427887#post1427887

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=150587&p=1470710#post1470710

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=150587&p=1471013#post1471013

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=150587&p=1517987#post1517987

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=150587&p=1518026#post1518026

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=140045&p=1364639#post1364639

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=140045&p=1365157#post1365157

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=136107&p=1326852#post1326852

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=136107&p=1327142#post1327142

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=136107&p=1329281#post1329281

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=136107&p=1363335#post1363335

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=139407&p=1358368#post1358368

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=139407&p=1359513#post1359513

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=139407&p=1361325#post1361325

[ubeaut]

Working on it Bryan - It appears to have the wrong urls to the pics in each post the same as Ueee's did. I have asked Steven for a universal fix but this may take a couple of days.

I did a manual repair to one to make sure the pics were there and it worked fine, but best to do a universal fix rather than heaps of searching for correct pics then manually editing and changing each one.

Cheers - Neil :U

[FenceFurniture]

I have asked Steven for a universal fix but this may take a couple of days.Neil, do you mean a universal fix for all pics missing on the forum, or just Bryan's? There is a least one thread of mine where pics are missing, but i haven't checked others as yet.

[ubeaut]

Was under the impression the last fix was universal but I guess it wasn't.

Same deal as Bryan.

If you can find the individual posts where pics have gone missing please post a list of them here and I'll add it to the to do list and hopefully this time it will fix them all if it is the same problem.

Cheers - Neil :U

[FenceFurniture]

Sorry Neil, somehow I missed your reply here.

The one that i know about is this one (and the pics are still missing from the first post)
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=181639

If you need it, the BB code for the first pic is (I used the bb in the thread):
http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=303060&d=1391596131

and the second:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=303063&d=1391596251

I'll have a look through some other threads to see if they are ok.

[FenceFurniture]

Just been doing some checking, and unfortunately there are other threads with pics missing. In the last couple of years I know that I have been using mainly BBcodes, and in a couple of threads there are links to Photobucket, but before that I can't remember if they were BBcodes or just attachments.

Threads with pics missing (so far):
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=140243

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=142594

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=158214

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=150092

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=157995

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=180805

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=159033

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=177036

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=157260

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=180000

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=157779

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=141475

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=180859

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=168697

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=167909

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=181730

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=153730

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=164452

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=181737

In that thread just above there are still pics from other contributors which are attachments, so maybe there is a clue to the missing pics being BBcodes?

However, in this next thread I'd be pretty sure that I used BBcodes for my posts, and the pics are still there.......
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=182159

This next one is a bit bizarre: the link goes to a post that has the same pic as the first link in my previous post in this thread (the drill deck, first pic) and the pic is still there ( and in both cases would have definitely been by BBcode):
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=182173&p=1749914#post1749914


The following thread is a monster of some 722 posts and was very picture heavy. Many of them are still there (was using Photobucket quite a bit) but some of them were definitely BBcode, and appear to be missing. The link will take you to a post where there are missing pics, and there will be others missing:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=171926&p=1680631#post1680631

I also just noticed in that thread that the number of readers has reduced considerably to 79, where on the 22/09/2013 it was 338 readers (I was keeping stats for my own amusement), so maybe there is something else going on besides missing pics.

[FenceFurniture]

I just tried to see what would happen when I copied two posts to a word document to see what I got (the two posts with and without the drill deck pic). In neither case did the BBcode or pic show up, BUT when when I pasted it into a reply here it did. In the word document it just shows up as a blank line.

That doesn't prove anything, and I guess isn't helpful, but is just an observation.

[ubeaut]

STILL WORKING ON IT.

Won't show up in word doc because they are on the forums. In your album.

They all for some reason have the wrong address. They can be found and uploaded manually but no wau am I going to try and track down every single pic and manually reload them. Many, many, nmany, hours of work to do that.

Steven is trying to find a work round for it if not able to work it out we will reassess the matter and put the outcome in here.

Neil :U

[FenceFurniture]

Cheers Neil. No, I wouldn't expect you to reload every pic - as you say a mammoth task. The problem as I see it is that it may be happening to anyone who uses the BBcode.

Re Word doc - I knew the pic wouldn't show up, but I thought the BBcode might, but it's just a blank line (even though pasting into a post reveals the pic (i.e. the BBcode is there). Ni big deal at all, just thought it may provide a clue.

Ueee: do you use the BBcode, and was it those pics that were missing in your posts?

[ubeaut]

Idealy you need to load photo's from your computer through the Manage Attachments or Insert Image buttons.

We deleted VBSEO a little while ago (because it is no longer supported and had security problems) and it appears that this may have been part of the problem. It has affected a lot of different things, most of which were fixed or sorted out prior to thew final deletion, but there are always unforeseen problems that raise their ugly heads hno matter how hard we try.

:U

[Bryan]

Neil there's no rush on my part and I appreciate your efforts. If a universal back-end-magic fix proves difficult, would it be an option to grant users temporary edit permission so they could fix their own posts?

[FenceFurniture]

If a universal back-end-magic fix proves difficult, would it be an option to grant users temporary edit permission so they could fix their own posts?I had the same thought actually.

[ubeaut]

Might be the way to go but we'll wait and see if it can be fixed first.

Much easier for you guys to do your own than for us to do them menually because you at least know what you're looking for in the albums where as I have to go searching for each and every individual pic.
Hopefully we'll have a fix in by early next week. :fingerscrossed:

Cheers :U

[Bryan]

Just thought I would add that I recently used BBcode to insert images from my album and it worked ok. Don't know if that means anything.

The reason I used to favour that method was that you could view pics at full size in line with relevant text. I just find it easier to write about the pics that way and easier as a reader too. The other way you have to say things like 'the third pic shows blah blah'. I know you can insert thumbnails inline, but you still can't see detailed images and text together. Just seems clunky.

Not meaning to moan; I will stick to thumbs if that's more stable. Just my two cents as a user.

[Ueee]

Ueee: do you use the BBcode, and was it those pics that were missing in your posts?

Hi Brett,
All the images that went missing of mine were on my WWF (website not the town:;, that had me miffed when you said you could meet me in WWF) album and entered in BB code. However i went to using Photobucket with BB code and they are all fine.

Neil, it had crossed my mind that we could edit them ourselves but i was waiting for the silver bullet before suggesting it. Looks like it might be a good option though.

Ew

[Ueee]

I just went and looked at the other thread i put images in from my WWF album. The images are still there....

http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=121627&p=1442669#post1442669

Ew

[Fuzzie]

I was just trying to review one of Woodwould's builds and note his inline pictures are missing from the thread. http://www.woodworkforums.com/showthread.php?t=140444&p=1368616#post1368616

It looks like the pictures are linked to his forum album space, but they don't show in the thread. I'd hate to think all this good information has gone missing.

[ubeaut]

They are all still in his album. Was able to find them but will have to wait to see if the fix works as it's a nightmare trying to do them all manually. :C Looks like there may be many many more missing so doing individuals may be out of the question for a little while. :no:

Hang fire for a few more days and we'll see what happens.

Cheers - Neil :U

[ubeaut]

We have put in a lot of hours over this problem and not much further forward with a fix due to the random numbering of identifier numbers in the links to the pics.:C

Giving it until Wednesday night to sort out at our end and if it can't be done We might just have to go with allowing you guys to fix your own.

:U

[Fuzzie]

Unfortunately I think Woodwould has left the room and with over 600 photo in his album it would be challenging for another member to sort out the right links. I doubt even WW would be bothered doing it even if he was still an active member on the Forum. :no:

[ubeaut]

Will work on WW's pics as a separate thing.

[A Duke]

Unfortunately I think Woodwould has left the room and with over 600 photo in his album it would be challenging for another member to sort out the right links. I doubt even WW would be bothered doing it even if he was still an active member on the Forum. :no:Hi,
WW is still lurking and keeping a beady eye on us all.
If you miss him he can be found at Pegs and 'Tails | Seventeenth- and eighteenth-century English and Irish furniture & co. (http://pegsandtails.wordpress.com/)
Regards