Woodworking Coffee Addicts II

[Burnsy]

Seeing I can't bump the old thread and it was entrapped within Bob's mass of water purifiers, filters and telemetry I figured I would start a new one:U

Let me start by saying it surprised me none that Bob was a coffee guru, when it comes to anything technical he is "The Man". Disappointed that on a my few visits to his I have never partaken in one of his creations though, you won't get away with it next time mate:p

I have always been a coffee lover and have played with all manner of presses, stovetops and gimicks over the years. This culminated in my working as a barista for around 3 yrs part time when I did my grad dip a few years back. Since then we have got by on passable coffee from a Delongi machine that was a wedding present. In most cases it manages to pump out a better coffee than the run of the mill cafes. For beans I purchase local roasts where available, 5 Senses, Yahava, Ravens (Denmark) when my brother visits, Yallingup Coffee (Dunsborough) when my mate visits and when all else fails Gloria Jeans from the supermarket (I know, it is not fantastic but beats most of the other off the shelf beans when a quick fix is needed).

So why have I started this thread now? Because I have just bought a single Group Carimali which is going to be plumed into a tank running rainwater all mounted in a portable coffee trolley topped with a slab of bluegum I milled a few years ago. So I am getting to mix my passions:U Once Carol the Carimali arrives I intend to give here some new timber group handes to match and will make a matcing timber handles tamper (just waiting on some stainless stock to machine my base out of).

Will post more pictures as it all comes together.

[coongoola]

Being a coffeeholic also, I'll keep this thread on my watchlist. Keep the updates coming burnsy

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[artme]

I respectfully request that you pay due deference to that slab of
blue gum and give it a good coating or three, on both sides, with
a high quality finish!!:):):)

[Andrew Nicholls]

Congrats on the new machine...
The Carimali is a very capable commercial grade machine. I saw one for sale, just like this one on CS just recently...
You'll need a good grinder, to get the best from the beans, but I'm sure you're on top of that.
If you'd like a source of consistently excellent roasted beans... I would highly recommend Jeff at mycuppa. The beans will arrive with the roast date usually in the last week, so they keep improving for the next week or so... , 'Fresh is best'
Happy brewing...

[BobL]

Looks good Burnsy. Fresh rainwater helps make great coffee and I reckon it tastes better than filtered water.


Let me start by saying it surprised me none that Bob was a coffee guru, when it comes to anything technical he is "The Man". Disappointed that on a my few visits to his I have never partaken in one of his creations though, you won't get away with it next time mate:p
Feel free to drop by anytime. :2tsup:


In most cases it manages to pump out a better coffee than the run of the mill cafes. For beans I purchase local roasts where available, 5 Senses, . . . . . . .
I have tried a few others from time to time but find I just can't find anything better than 5 Senses bean and have been buying from them since they started in 2000 so that I now qualify for the long term buyers discount.
Delivery is only $4 and they have a good turnover of new beans and blends to make it interesting enough so I don't even bother with anything else these days. They have around 20 coffee buyers all around the world constantly looking at stuff for them.

[QUPTE] Once Carol the Carimali arrives I intend to give here some new timber group handes to match and will make a matcing timber handles tamper (just waiting on some stainless stock to machine my base out of).[/QUOTE]
Timber group handles sound like a good idea.

What sort of a blender do you have or are looking at?

[Burnsy]

Artme, one coat of Organoil already on it, will be built on over the coming week once it is docked to size.

Andrew, the Carimali on CS and my new one are one and the same, one of the reasons I jumped at it was the rebuild thread showing it's complete strip down and rebuild in 2011, it went on the truck from NSW today:U

I am looking at a Mazzer Mini for a grinder, interested in hearing your take on the e vs the doser Bob as I see you have the doser and I am leaning toward the e.

[BobL]

I am looking at a Mazzer Mini for a grinder, interested in hearing your take on the e vs the doser Bob as I see you have the doser and I am leaning toward the e.

I have two grinders, the Mazzer for Caf, and an Iberital specifically for for Decaf beans.

The Inberital is a grind on demand grinder (not as fancy as the Mazzer as it cannot set a specific dose), but I like the manual doser better.
One issue is I have 7, 12, 14 and 21g baskets so I would need 4 (well 3 really because I never use the 7g basket) specific dose settings - of course the way around that is to get two grinders :)
Maybe it's just because that's what I got used to first place. People I know who have an e and just two basket sizes really like them

When preparing coffee for a group of people, the manual doser is a bit quicker whereas with the e grinder I have to wait for the grinding of every dose.

[Burnsy]

I have two grinders, the Mazzer for Caf, and an Iberital specifically for for Decaf beans.

The Inberital is a grind on demand grinder (not as fancy as the Mazzer as it cannot set a specific dose), but I like the manual doser better.
One issue is I have 7, 12, 14 and 21g baskets so I would need 4 (well 3 really because I never use the 7g basket) specific dose settings - of course the way around that is to get two grinders :)
Maybe it's just because that's what I got used to first place. People I know who have an e and just two basket sizes really like them

When preparing coffee for a group of people, the manual doser is a bit quicker whereas with the e grinder I have to wait for the grinding of every dose.

From reading I am starting to lean toward the doser (good becuse it's cheaper:wink:) It seems most report the e timed grind on demand doses are not that accurate as they are measured on time so often need an additional manual topup. As I always make two or more coffee's the doser is likely a good choice and can still be used to grind on demand easily enough.

[BobL]

From reading I am starting to lean toward the doser (good becuse it's cheaper:wink:) It seems most report the e timed grind on demand doses are not that accurate as they are measured on time so often need an additional manual topup. . . . .

Yeah thats is irritating. Too little is not too bad - too much is the pain. What I do with the manual doser is slightly overfill the basket and then scrape the excess off the top back into the doser.
With the other grinder I end up scraping it off into the knock box. The doser wastes some ground coffee because it leaves some grinds behind but it works out about the same if you are making a couple of coffees and less if you are making more.

[Burnsy]

Yeah thats is irritating. Too little is not too bad - too much is the pain. What I do with the manual doser is slightly overfill the basket and then scrape the excess off the top back into the doser.
With the other grinder I end up scraping it off into the knock box. The doser wastes some ground coffee because it leaves some grinds behind but it works out about the same if you are making a couple of coffees and less if you are making more.

Mate if you don't have any wasted grinds what do you use to clean your chainsaw chain and season the machine after a clean.:D

[Andrew Nicholls]

I just use my Pharos.
20.3 grams in, 20.3 grams of pure fluffy heaven out....
I've also adopted the OE Slap-Shot method of dosing/tamping so there's not one little wasted grain....
Just coffee goodness... In spades...

[Burnsy]

Change of plans re grinder as a Gino Rossi CC45 conical burr followed me home yesterday:U I want to remove the dosing chamber and replace it with a catch cone or a fabricated shute. Anyone seen any good ideas? I have alloy to fab up a round shute so will try that first unless I can find a correct size alloy or stainless cone somewhere.

[BobL]

Change of plans re grinder as a Gino Rossi CC45 conical burr followed me home yesterday:U I want to remove the dosing chamber and replace it with a catch cone or a fabricated shute. Anyone seen any good ideas?

What about adapting the semi conical containers used by mini-blender shake makers.
The acrylic is nice and thick so it can take a bit of handling.
I was thinking it could be mounted in a lathe chuck and have a hole turned out of the bottom to suit basket.


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[Burnsy]

Was thinking the stainless versions of stick mixer cups I am pretty sure I have seen around the place. Possibly also inverted cocktail mixer, jam funnel or stainless vase. I am sure if I keep an eye out I can find one for far less than the US$230 it costs for a Mazzer Kony e one.

Will keep the measurements handy and see what I find, for now I will modify the doser inlet to help reduce grinds being caught by the lip that is there now and just enjoy using my new toys. Carimali was loaded Friday so probably won't see it for at least a week and a bit.

This is the doser inlet that needs "match porting" :D

[RETIRED]

I am glad I drink tea. Less drama. :roflmao:

[NathanaelBC]

Don't understand how you lot can afford to support your woodworking hobbies AND afford a decent coffee machine!

I'm bloody happy with my Breville Infuser I got mid last year, and the big Sunbeam burr grinder. Does me just fine.

[Burnsy]

I am glad I drink tea. Less drama. :roflmao:
Where is the fun in no drama, it's like a new table saw that cuts true and is all calibrated straight up, you know that sooner or later you are going to pull it apart and tinker with it anyway:doh:

[BobL]

I drink tea at restaurants because the coffee is usually so bad.

Re: supporting a coffee machine hobby.
Unless you get into roasting once you buy a quality coffee machine and grinder, unlike woodworking there a much smaller range of gizmos that are worth buying. My machine and grinders are 10 years old and I expect to get another 10 years out of them.

My current budget shows that machinery costs per cup is running at about 20c a cup, coffee is around 60c a cup, and because the machine is left on for ~4 hours a day electrical running cost is around 5 c a cup.
I usually drink espresso but others drink milk, still works to under a $1 per cup.
Still way cheaper that expensive Perth prices for cafe coffee.

[Andrew Nicholls]

Ever added up how much a smoker spends in a week, a month, a year, 10 years?
It adds up.
My wife is very particular about her coffee....
For us, this previously meant a 20 min return car trip to get 2 coffees, perhaps twice, sometimes three times a day...

Let's keep it simple... Two cups, twice a day, by 7 days @ $5- per cup

That's $20- per day, $140- per week, $620- PCM, $7,224- over a year.

Now this figure is conservative because it does not include the vehicle cost or time cost running backwards and forwards...

Still think the few grand I have spent on good coffee equipment is expensive?

I'm saving at least $5- on every cup I make!

And the coffee is superb!, not pot luck....

[BobL]

In keeping with going over the top on coffee equipment last week I helped a friend of mine get his Mazzer Robur up and running.
This thing is a real beast - it weighs 30kg, draws 900W, and it normally runs of 380V 3 phase.
He picked it up for next to nothing from a cafe that was moving onto something else.
It needed some cosmetic attention but otherwise it had hardly been used considering how robust it is.

We converted the motor to ∆ wiring so now it runs on 240V single phase to 240V 3phase, alongside his two group coffee machine which he also converted to run on single phase (no VFD).
And now he can play around with grinding at different speeds.


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[Bushmiller]

Coffee and wood; Can it get any better? Well, yes, but I don't want to do time in the sin bin :(.

I will look forward to seeing the pictures of the new machine when it arrives.

Regards
Paul

[Burnsy]

Carimali is up and running along side a Gino Rossi grinder (it is a monster), few weeks ago now:wink:. A few mods have been completed to the grinder including an alloy tube hopper and match porting the grinder and doser chamber.

Original big hopper still fitted in this picture.

[BobL]

Yum!

[Burnsy]

Here is one for you Bob, Douglas Shaper at work in action
http://youtu.be/UsGo94pyLuA

I think you will like the end product