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Geoff Dean
8th June 2005, 12:56 PM
Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.

Abraham Lincoln was elected President in 1860.
John F. Kennedy was elected President in 1960.

Both were particularly concerned with civil rights.
Both wives lost their children while living in the White House.

Both Presidents were shot on a Friday.
Both Presidents were shot in the head.

Now it gets really weird.

Lincoln's secretary was named Kennedy.
Kennedy's Secretary was named Lincoln.

Both were assassinated by Southerners.
Both were succeeded by Southerners named Johnson.

Andrew Johnson, who succeeded Lincoln, was born in 1808.
Lyndon Johnson, who succeeded Kennedy, was born in 1908.

John Wilkes Booth, who assassinated Lincoln, was born in 1839.
Lee Harvey Oswald, who assassinated Kennedy, was born in 1939.

Both assassins were known by their three names.
Both names are composed of fifteen letters.

Now hang on to your seat.

Lincoln was shot at the theater named 'Ford.'
Kennedy was shot in a car called 'Lincoln' made by 'Ford.'

Lincoln was shot in a theater and his assassin ran and hid in a warehouse.
Kennedy was shot from a warehouse and his assassin ran and hid in a theater.

Booth and Oswald were assassinated before their trials.

And here's the kicker...

A week before Lincoln was shot, he was in Monroe, Maryland.
A week before Kennedy was shot, he was also in Monroe, Marilyn Monroe.


:eek: :eek: :eek: :D :D :D

RufflyRustic
8th June 2005, 12:59 PM
Jeez, that is really a bit freaky....

cheers
RR

zenwood
8th June 2005, 02:53 PM
Not really surprising or amazing. See a detailed discussion at

http://www.snopes.com/history/american/linckenn.htm

The key to these sorts of stories (same with Bible-code stuff) is to compare (1) the number of coincidences with (2) the total number of possible comparisons. (2) is Vastly bigger than (1), especially when it comes to well known people like US presidents. To demonstrate, think how easy it is to come up with vast lists of non-coincidences:

Lincoln was born in 1809; Kennedy was born in 1917. Lincoln died in 1865; Kennedy died in 1963. Lincoln was 56 years old at the time of his death; Kennedy was 46 years old at the time of his death...

There are also some factual errors in some of the various versions of this list.

Abraham Lincoln was elected to Congress in 1846.
John F. Kennedy was elected to Congress in 1946.
...

nic
9th June 2005, 03:57 PM
Did anyone see the Safran vs GOD last week. This guy apparently said that this book, so called prophecy predicted the sep 11 attacks. You had to "decrypt" the book using some computer algorithm
Safran then used the same algorithm on a Vaniila ice song (ice, ice baby) and found the same prediction, maybe Mr ICE wasn't that stupid after all :eek: :eek:

He also used that same program on a text from congress and it depicted the demise of Vanilla ICE, now that's weird **** !!! :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Nic :D

Geoff Dean
9th June 2005, 04:07 PM
There are also some factual errors in some of the various versions of this list.

I didn't claim it was factual, I only passed it along. :D :D :D

Bob Willson
9th June 2005, 05:06 PM
Hi Nic
Well if he makes the source code available for general analysis then it might be a little more acceptable. I bet he won't though.

10 input story
20 wait 500
30 predict something horrible based on whatever seems to be available
40 claim biblical prophecy is fulfilled
50 goto 10

OR

10 start with nasty happening
20 claim biblical prophecy fulfilled
30 generate stacks of spurious reasoning to support claim
40 hide behind garbage generated
50 goto 10

Gingermick
9th June 2005, 06:49 PM
That was the code the jnr bush used to get into presidency twice.

And Nic, did you see when Safran went to Salt lake city and started to knock on doors preaching evolution?

ozwinner
9th June 2005, 08:16 PM
Did you see John Safron v's the KKK.

He is either stupid or has balls!!!

Al :eek:

Lucas
9th June 2005, 10:07 PM
Wasn't John F. Kennedy shot by Lee Harvey Oswald from the grassy noll

nic
9th June 2005, 10:41 PM
Hi Nic

10 start with nasty happening
20 claim biblical prophecy fulfilled
30 generate stacks of spurious reasoning to support claim
40 hide behind garbage generated
50 goto 10

Hi Bob, yeah I know it's a scam I was joking !!
The algorithm basically re arranges the text in X number of ways until the desired text could be found !! Not hard to get exactly what you want.

I was pi**ing myself when he took ice ice baby and managed to get a prophecy about sep 11.

Yeah, that guy has balls Al, when he has an idea he doesn't back out !!

Good on'em

nic

Ashore
9th June 2005, 10:49 PM
Abraham Lincoln

Born: February 12, 1809, in Hodgenville, Hardin County, Kentucky

Died: April 15, 1865. Lincoln died the morning

John Kennedy
Born: May 29, 1917 in Brookline, Massachusetts

Died: November 22, 1963. Killed by an assassin's bullet in Dallas, Texas

My brother born 1946

I was born 1951 ( exactly five years apart)

We had the same parents

Both became Marine Engineers

A Great uncle ( by Marriage Was a marine engineer)

A Grand Father was a “Chief with P&O “

All seagoing
I am exactly 6’ 1” tall

My Brothers son is exactly 6’ 1” tall

My brother and his son were both born on the 3<SUP>rd</SUP> of July

My youngest daughter and I were both born on the 1st of September



The trouble with life is there's no background music.

zenwood
10th June 2005, 08:17 AM
Well, I guess none of us are nostradamus fans. Why are we talking about this again...?

Iain
10th June 2005, 09:07 AM
[size=4]My brother born 1946

I was born 1951 ( exactly five years apart)


I am exactly 6’ 1” tall


A prophecy, add the 46 and 51 = 97 add the 5 year difference to 1997=2002.
Invert the 6 becomes 9 and the two l's in tall become 11.
Yep, that's convincing enough for me 9-11-02
Does this mean that you knew about this all the time and never told us.
Bit like old Maisie the tea lady when she wins Tatts "I told everyoneone I had a feeling I was going to win this week but no one beleived me', what she fails to mention is that she's been saying that for the past 30 years.

Geoff Dean
10th June 2005, 10:34 AM
Iain,

You have way too much spare time :D :D :D

go and sand a piece of wood, or something :p :p :p

Iain
10th June 2005, 10:40 AM
Naaa, just waking up the brain over a coffee, now to go and get that bloody oak veneer and maybe harass on the way through :rolleyes: .

Gumby
10th June 2005, 11:52 AM
Wasn't John F. Kennedy shot by Lee Harvey Oswald from the grassy noll

No. Oswald was in the book depository but there is strong conjecture that a second gunman fired the fatal head shot from behind a fence at the rear of the 'grassy noll'.

Gingermick
10th June 2005, 01:57 PM
Norman Mailer wrote a very interesting book on Oswald. http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon14.gif

The grassy knoll; Conspiracy theorists draw from the same well as the original post.
They take a conclusion and try to find evidence to support it, rather than accumulate evidence, then come to a conclusion.
A bit like jnr Bush as well.