Harvey HW110LGE-30

[Damienol]

After much research I finally took the plunge and purchase my new Cabinet saw - Harvey HW110LGE-30

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http://www.woodworkforums.com/f153/2014-10-cabinet-saw-comparison-180559/

Wow, What a nice saw!!! Detailed Specs Below.

Picked the saw up on Saturday from Ryan at Major Woodworking Equipment (MWE). It was my first visit to MWE but won't be my last as the customer service has been great

The first question I hear you ask is why didn't I go for the 50" version? Unfortunately space is a massive restriction in my tiny ManCave. Ryan (MWE) said that if I ever had the space down the road then it should only be a couple of hundred to upgrade (~$100 more T time of purchase) That's a nice upgrade to have up my sleeve.

The majority of the saw comes on a crate with a very solid cardboard box wrapped around it. There is also separate boxes for the rails and fence.

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My box had no signs of damaged whatsoever however unfortunately the motor cover had a few minor dings. Not to worry Ryan at MWE said, I will put the one on the shop floor aside and you can swap it over.

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This bad boy is heavy. At 250Kg's it is heavier then most in its class. The first challenge was getting it down 20 stairs to the ManCave. The heaviest piece is about 190Kg's which ended up. Being surprising easy to get down the stairs with three blokes and a stair walker.

Assembling the saw was surprising easy however do not expect any great guidance form the supplied instruction manual as it is next to useless. You could put it all together yourself however it will probably be about 5 times faster with assistance. Assembly requires putting the wings on , then the rails, then the power switch, extension table, fence and then removed the shipping lock before finally installing the bladed (supplied). Not too hard at all.

If you are going to install on a mobile base I would suggests doing this before doing any of the assembly. With three blokes putting the main machine in the base was the hardest part. At the bottom of the machine is a small black cosmetic strip. This is just a piece of tape which is very easily damaged when installing in the base so you will need to be extra careful and make sure the base is sufficiently wide if you don't want to damage this.

The mobile base Ryan from MWE recommended for the saw is fantastic. Full assembled in under a minute and it moves the 250Kg unit around on my plywood floor easily. The other light bases I have take about 40-60 mins to install so this was a nice surprise.

At $1885 inc. GST the saw offers exception value. The unit is heavy and that translates into a feeling of quality. The main table is solid and with a touch of Inox almost has a mirror like appearance.

The wheels for raising the blade and tilting are very solid and the whole thing as a very nice action and feel about it

The unit comes with two Riving knives (rise and fall) that are quick release allowing change over in a few seconds. The larger of them has a clear Perspex blade guard with above table dust extraction capabilities. The guard can be removed fairly easily however I intend on leaving permanently attached and will just swap the riving knife over if required.

Harvey include a full set of Allen keys in a handy holder and all the wrenches you need to make blade changes etc.

A nice looking and solid Mitre gauge with aluminum fence and stop is included however I have not used this as I have an Incra HD from my old table I will continue to use

Dado insert came standard

The 4" dust port is on a steel plate that is removable and modifiable and the cabinet internals slope toward the dust port to assist with dust extraction


You may need to wire your shed with a 15AMP circuit as the unit comes with a 15AMP plug as the 3HP motor draws 12.8 AMPs on startup

Out of the box the blade measured 9/1000 of an inch out of alignment from front to back and in terms of 90degree vertical stop I don't own anything accurate enough to measure any error here.

The fence is just lovely. Very heavy and very solid however it just slides across the rails with ease. Tuning and adjusting is done effortlessly. It locks hard against the rails and requires considerable force to see any movement. The added CE component adds a nice level of additional safety for reducing kick back.

The he unit comes with a number of optional accessories which include a routing table, sliding table, 50" rails etc. As I have a Triton router which allows for above table adjustments I intend on installing my router in the extension table provided. That is a nice (free) addition :U.

Dislikes (Minor only)
- 1 Year Warranty. There is not really much that can go wrong with the saw and as it has A well respected 3HP Leeson motor time will only tell if this is an issue.
- the black tape (cosmetic) is easily damaged. (I had the same complaint about a Jet Jointer I recently purchased)
- The locking screw for the motor cover would be better being a knob rather then screw.


Finally the test: I haven't had a chance to use extensively so will provide an update in a few weeks/months time however first impressions are great. The Leeson motor spins the blade up to 4000+ RPM quickly. It is surprisingly quiet. The extra blade speed translates in a much nicer (and quieter??????) cut. I put a couple of pieces of 90mm pine though it and it cut it like butter. The finished cut was impressive. And boy of boy do I love that fence.

One very happy camper. The ManCave feels complete with this new addition. Now I just need to work out how to pay off the credit card

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Brand
Harvey


Reference
http://www.majorwoodworking.com.au/featured-products/harvey-hw10t30-tablesaw/


http://www.harveymachinery.com/products_detail/&productId=0d58c14f-42dd-472e-a588-d713bc5ea57d&comp_stats=comp-FrontProducts_list01-1298616977298.html (http://www.majorwoodworking.com.au/featured-products/harvey-hw10t30-tablesaw/)


Model
Harvey HW110LGE-30 Tablesaw


Price
$1,895 inc. GST


Motor
3hp 240v 15A Leeson motor


Motor Type
Induction


Blade Speed
4150rpm


Drive Type
3x v-belt


Blade Diameter
250mm


Dado Capable
Yes - 20.6mm MAX


Arbor Diameter
16mm standard (MWE supply 30mm)


Arbor Tilt
Left


Max Cut at 90°
80mm


Max cut at 45°
56mm


Blade Tilt
90°-45°


Max Rip Cut
305/750mm


Max Crosscut



Foot Print
1580x900 (820 excluding fence) x863mm


-Workshop Footprint
685x1100mm


-Table Size (W x D)
508x685mm +(2)254x685mm wings


-Table Height
863mm


-Blade to Table Front
335mm


-Blade to Table Rear
135mm


Fence Type
Biesemeyer Style with CE safety


Blade Guard
(Quick change)


Riving Knife Style
rise / fall splitter (quick change) (x2)


Switch Type
Magnetic safety switch with overload


Dust Port
1 x 4"


Stand Type
cabinet


Net Weight
250Kg






Warranty
1 Year


Manufactured
China






Options
Sliding Table, Router Table, 50" Rails


Other

[simops]

Thanks for the review......comprehensive and will help others.....particularly your comparison chart.....like it.

one thing did you apply a long straight edge onto the table top? Is it dead on flat?

cheers

[GLENSPENS]

sweet

[Mr Brush]

Very nice saw - and certainly the Harvey gear looks much better value for money than JET. Not sure how the Harvey (MWE) and Laguna (Gregorys) prices compare for almost identical machines - I guess it depends which is nearer, as interstate freight is a consideration.

[markwearspants]

Hi great review. I was wondering, what is the distance from the tip of the blade to the front of the table is? my table saw is quite small and it makes using sleds very unsafe and awkward

[Superbunny]

I just got to brag, I just ordered the Harvey. Major said they have 15 back orders and a 4-5 week delay on shipping. I'll set it up and report back when it arrives for a mini review. I plan to take this to my new shed in Tasmania.:D:D

SB

[Binary01]

Like superbunny, I have one of these bad boys on order... (thanks for the good review BTW, Damienol)
I'm not looking to buy a couple of blades while waiting for it to arrive. You mention that the arbor size is 16mm standard, but 30mm as supplied by MWE. Can you confirm that this means it is supplied in Australia to only accept 30mm ID blades, or does it come for 16mm (5/8") and an adapter for 30mm? The blades I have been looking at are 5/8"...

[Superbunny]

Well I got mine during the week and thanks to Ryan for his help on the delivery problem I had but I got now so all OK. I have it all assembled and done some trial cuts and I have to say I'm realy pleased I purchased this table saw. As you will see by the photos there is nothing to do after basic setup, it was all set above factory specks as stated in the manual only 0.08 out on the blade alignment and 0.01 on the 90 and 45 degree blade stops. I think this Harvey machine is easily as good as the Laguna equivelent I inspected at the TWWW show and I had a very detailed look around the Laguna as it was my pick at the time. The Hervey I believe is just as well made and I expect it to last me for my days left and I'm taking it to Tasmania next year when I move. The cut with the supplied blade was a top cut on pine and I was not expecting such a good end grain cut finish. I fact it was so good I'm not going to put on the new fancy blade I have for it.

You can see it's well packaged and comes with a set of tools to help with assembley and blade change etc. It does run very quite but that was no surprise from other accounts. The arbor is 30mm and I wish it was 25mm as I have a heap of new blades that will not fit it. I'm putting on my Incra TS LS fence sytem with the Jessem Precision Stock Guides, so I will have a good setup. The table was very flat and polished and a joy to line up and setup. I think the manual may have been improved as I had no problems following it for the setup process. I know the price is now $1995 but with the feel of quality in the solid build I think it offers very good value for the money. I'm going to reccomend you get it if your in the market for a new table saw with a limited budget and I believe you wont go wrong.:D:D

SB

[FrankyG]

Congratulations on the new baby, Superbunny :)

10 months of procrastinating and I still haven't ordered one for myself :(
I've got a literal baby on the way now so I'll just keep on putting it off for a while longer...

How much space do you have/need for it?
The space I'll end up using is 5mx6m and I'm worried it'll be a little cramped once I add in benches and tools around the edge.


Cheers,
FrankyG

[Superbunny]

Congratulations on the new baby, Superbunny :)

10 months of procrastinating and I still haven't ordered one for myself :(
I've got a literal baby on the way now so I'll just keep on putting it off for a while longer...

How much space do you have/need for it?
The space I'll end up using is 5mx6m and I'm worried it'll be a little cramped once I add in benches and tools around the edge.


Cheers,
FrankyG

Well if it helps my workshop is only 3m x 6m and it is a litte cramp but ok, I did have nother table saw and realy this only replaces what I had.

SB

[Binary01]

I received my HW110LGE-30 a week ago also.
I can only echo the positive comments from all above. The whole package feels of high quality and the saw runs beautifully. Having not had a "proper" tablesaw before (MK3 Triton), setup took me quite a while. I couldn't get the fence to keep position solidly during a rip cut, but after getting my head around the setup and adjustment of a biesemeyer-style fence, it is now smooth running and then rock solid when locked in position. The finish is very nice and polished top seems nice and flat - at least as good as I can tell from my straight-edge. I didn't need to shim the wings. The supplied mitre gauge is quite nice with good size and useful alum. extrusion, and better than I had seen from similar cost saws at Carbatec and at the Melbourne WWW show, but I would still love an Incra at some stage.
I got mine from Roy at Get Woodworking in Melbourne - nice guy and would definitely recommend him for Melbournians.
The 30mm arbor is very substantial and seems like a better engineered solution than 5/8" for the amount of power, but its a minor annoyance that there are fewer options for sourcing blades. I am still using the supplied blade which has worked well for the small amount of hardwood, ply and melamine that I have cut so far.

[Peter010956]

Hi Guys, I'm kinda new around here, but I have been hearing(well reading really) what you have been saying.
I have been reading like the B'crikeys trying to determine the best machine for me.
I have been and, i suppose still am a bit of a Carbatec/Jet fan for a while now, but decided, after listening to you guys, that I should consider other brands.
Well, I contacted Roy at "Get Woodworking" and found that he had a Harvey in stock.
Not the one I wanted, but at least I could see what all your fuss was about.
Immediately impressed!
Good quality ground surfaces. Although The wings were not finished as finely as the main table, but very good none the less.
It appeared to be well finished and well thought out.
Mind you, a tad heavy at over 250Kg., but what can ya do!
They were out of stock but a shipment has just hit the water out of China, so late January or more likely February some time.
I will be out of town for some of that so I hoping to take delivery in early march.
I go the base model HARVEY HW110HB-30.
At this stage I did not get any extras (will get an 80 tooth blade) and probably get a add set a bit later.
I don't know how the standard fence performs either, but hoping it will be Ok!

Now I had never met Roy, or in fact until yesterday I had not even heard of "Get Woodworking" but I liked the way he done business.
NOT pushy at all...too happy to make phone calls to check a few things for me(availability, price(new shipment, AUS$ etc.).
(not make guesses, like some I have come across over the years).
Knowledgable about his products.
And I felt under no pressure to "buy or get out". He was happy to talk about all things wood and machine.

I'm very confident about the decision I have made.
And a lot of that had to do with you guys at Woodworkforums...thanks guys.
Have a great Christmas Regards

Peter:U

[Superbunny]

Hi Guys, I'm kinda new around here, but I have been hearing(well reading really) what you have been saying.
I have been reading like the B'crikeys trying to determine the best machine for me.
I have been and, i suppose still am a bit of a Carbatec/Jet fan for a while now, but decided, after listening to you guys, that I should consider other brands.
Well, I contacted Roy at "Get Woodworking" and found that he had a Harvey in stock.
Not the one I wanted, but at least I could see what all your fuss was about.
Immediately impressed!
Good quality ground surfaces. Although The wings were not finished as finely as the main table, but very good none the less.
It appeared to be well finished and well thought out.
Mind you, a tad heavy at over 250Kg., but what can ya do!
They were out of stock but a shipment has just hit the water out of China, so late January or more likely February some time.
I will be out of town for some of that so I hoping to take delivery in early march.
I go the base model HARVEY HW110HB-30.
At this stage I did not get any extras (will get an 80 tooth blade) and probably get a add set a bit later.
I don't know how the standard fence performs either, but hoping it will be Ok!

Now I had never met Roy, or in fact until yesterday I had not even heard of "Get Woodworking" but I liked the way he done business.
NOT pushy at all...too happy to make phone calls to check a few things for me(availability, price(new shipment, AUS$ etc.).
(not make guesses, like some I have come across over the years).
Knowledgable about his products.
And I felt under no pressure to "buy or get out". He was happy to talk about all things wood and machine.

I'm very confident about the decision I have made.
And a lot of that had to do with you guys at Woodworkforums...thanks guys.
Have a great Christmas Regards

Peter:U

Peter, if you don't like it I'll eat my hat, I'm still in love with mine and just got the Incra fence on so will post a picture later but I hear no one is disappointed with the standard fence anyhow.

[Binary01]

Hi Peter, congratulations on the purchase. I found Roy to be exactly as you describe also. I think he had the dovetail version on display in the shop, which is visually identical to the HW110LGE.
I'm also in Eltham North (seems to be a hot pocket for Get Woodworking this month!) if you need a hand putting it together or want to see a HW110LGE in action, although I'm still learning how to use it myself.

[Peter010956]

I received my HW110LGE-30 a week ago also.
I can only echo the positive comments from all above. The whole package feels of high quality and the saw runs beautifully. Having not had a "proper" tablesaw before (MK3 Triton), setup took me quite a while. I couldn't get the fence to keep position solidly during a rip cut, but after getting my head around the setup and adjustment of a biesemeyer-style fence, it is now smooth running and then rock solid when locked in position. The finish is very nice and polished top seems nice and flat - at least as good as I can tell from my straight-edge. I didn't need to shim the wings. The supplied mitre gauge is quite nice with good size and useful alum. extrusion, and better than I had seen from similar cost saws at Carbatec and at the Melbourne WWW show, but I would still love an Incra at some stage.
I got mine from Roy at Get Woodworking in Melbourne - nice guy and would definitely recommend him for Melbournians.
The 30mm arbor is very substantial and seems like a better engineered solution than 5/8" for the amount of power, but its a minor annoyance that there are fewer options for sourcing blades. I am still using the supplied blade which has worked well for the small amount of hardwood, ply and melamine that I have cut so far.
Hi Binary01, I note in your message(is that what they are?) that you specifically mention 30mm arbor. The base model that I ordered is 5/8" which for me is very disappointing. Are you sure it is 30mm?? Roy mentioned that all the machines that come here are the U.S. spec, which means 5/8".
When I first asked Roy he did tell me it was 30mm, but upon going to the Harvey website and looking up my model, it said 5/8". Roy later confirmed, with Sydney supplier that it is indeed 5/8". For me that is disappointing, it seem so P***y small.
I'm starting to get confused.:?
Any help/info would be useful.

[Binary01]

Hi Peter, here is my best knowledge of the situation: the hw110lge is the full sized 3hp cabinet saw and I can certainly confirm it has 30mm arbor in Australia/Europe (5/8" in North American markets). The hw110hb is Harvey's 2hp hybrid saw and is only available in 5/8" arbor.
To be honest 5/8" will give you more choice for sources of blades and is a proven size as used in USA, especially for the 2hp motor, so I wouldn't see this as a downside even if it does look small in appearance. It's not the size that counts... At least that is what I tell myself :B

[Superbunny]

Well I've been using my Harvey over the last couple of weeks and still in love with it. Just got the Incra fence all done and now I'm more in love with it. It may not be the best and most expensive on the market but you got just say I've got the best of both worlds now and I hope for a very long time. I'm going to guess that the quality of my woodwork will not improve but my enjoyment of doing woodwork will.:rolleyes::D:D

SB

[Peter010956]

Hi Guys,
Well, I must be part female(no offence ladies) cos I changed my mind!
I ended up ordering a HW110LGE-30.
Mind you in saying that, I was very taken back(in a good way) by the version in the "Get Woodworking" shop floor.
Very impressive, but just a little too expensive.
But I will bite my tongue til February when the new shipment arrives.
No more changes to my decision.
I did go and have a look at the Leda craft and the Laguna Fusion and Platinum.
But I came back to the Harvey.

Now proud Harvey owners, which trolley did you buy to move your Harvey around.
I didn't even think of that til the other night......lights are on but nobody home at times!!!
Thanks guys for the reply's too. It is great to hear from you. I need all the help I can get!
Now to just sit back and wait, Oh, I also need to clear my garage, to make way for the new baby:)

Peter

[Peter010956]

Well I've been using my Harvey over the last couple of weeks and still in love with it. Just got the Incra fence all done and now I'm more in love with it. It may not be the best and most expensive on the market but you got just say I've got the best of both worlds now and I hope for a very long time. I'm going to guess that the quality of my woodwork will not improve but my enjoyment of doing woodwork will.:rolleyes::D:D

SB

Hi SB,
Am I to guess that the standard Fence was not quite to your liking?
It sure does look like and imposing piece of gear!
Did you see it in operation before you bought yours?
Did you buy it locally to you, or sourced it out of country?

I had a quick look at the INCRA Miter gauges 5 and 1 degree versions. I think they were in basic trim, but looked like they could be built up into something nice and accurate.

Merry Christmas to all:)

Peter

[Binary01]

Wow SB, that fence looks amazing. While the standard fence is quite good in my inexperienced opinion, that one looks like a while other league in terms of accuracy.

Peter, I originally set out on the HB or Laguna fusion but ended up on the LGE, no regrets here :B
Mine sits on this mobile base because it was on special when I went to carbatec, and still is at $99 http://www.carbatec.com.au/universal-mobile-base-320kg-capacity_c21816
It is effective but you can still feel the weight of the saw when moving it around.

[Superbunny]

Hi SB,
Am I to guess that the standard Fence was not quite to your liking?
It sure does look like and imposing piece of gear!
Did you see it in operation before you bought yours?
Did you buy it locally to you, or sourced it out of country?

Peter

Hi Peter, I already had the Incra on my Triton saw table and purchased it about 18 months ago direct from the good old USA. At the time it was incredibly cheap and cost me about $650 landed and delivered to my door which is about half price and it's in metric. The Incra is just the bees and has micro adjustments as well, I always thought one day it would go on a decent table saw to do its best. As I had the Incra I didn't need the fence that comes with the Harvey so I saved about $145 on the price. I had seen it in action in the Incra video and a friend of mine had one so knew it was a good bit of kit. The Incra can still be purchased from Incra in the USA or PWS in Melbourne. You can get the Jessem guides from Jessem in the USA but you need a US address to post to first as they don't post to Australia direct but that's easy to set up with a transit company.:D:D

SB

[Tahlee]

My 110LGE-30 arrived today ... well the chassis did ... the other two boxes, and the mobility set are in transit

Just started to assemble ... this is my first table saw and I have a lot to learn.

With the blade installed the 90 degree IS indeed 90 degree.

I am yet to check 45 degrees as I have to work out the maths for slope and distance from pivot point and use my vernier and dial to check ... or maybe I just cut some wood and test it.

I ran the dial over the blade and followed the instructions on checking and correcting.

I have noticed that in some videos a square is used to measure the distance between the T slot to the blade .... and then slide the square to the rear of the blade to check that distance. I did this with the dial and got mixed readings ... sometimes it was spot on ... other times out by 8/1000. Then it dawned on me that I was measuring the blade for alignment with the T slot and not the T slot with the blade.

The correct method I since learned is to put a pen mark on the blade .... measure the distance to the T slot at the front..... AND THEN rotate the blade and measure the same marked point at the rear of the blade.

I did this and ... set the dial to zero at the front ... 338242 rotated the marked spot and got a reading of -2.5/1000 at the rear of the blade338241

I then repeated this over 6 other locations and got generally the same result -2 to -3. This meant that the rear of the table had to rotate to the left ... by about 6/1000

I then loosened off 3 of the 4 top holding bolts and cracked the 4th (front right) to use it as a pivot point. I use a dead weight rubber mallet to "inch" the top across ... got the rear to zero, moved to the front of the blade and corrected the front to zero ... and repeated this seesawing 3 times. I then kept checking as I tightened the bolts again.

The results were then ... zero at the front ..338243 and .... as close to zero as I could get at the back of the blade338244

What blades have you chaps got for the Harvey ... I bought a 8" Freud SD208 for the Laguna I had delivered just before Christmas (but never used ... long story) and it's 5/8ths ... costs $75 to have bored out to 30mm so I might sell them on and get a real 30mm set, any recommendations on this and for other blades too please?

Having a great time in the workshop

Rob

[Damienol]

Nearlly 2 years on and I still love my saw.

i got a bigger man cave about 9 months ago so updated to the 50" rails. Other then that no other changes

the table still exceeds my capability

[Binary01]

Still going well here too, but I cheated and moved my 30" rails across by one bolt position to give me enough capacity to cut standard cabinet sides. I saw people doing this in USA with the identical Grizzly saw.

[Peter010956]

After taking delivery and installing the saw and like just about everybody else, falling in love with it.
I then decided that a sliding table would be nice!
It is a fantastic piece of kit. It allowed a 6 seat table top to be trimmed to length on the Harvey all by my self.
Very impressed.
Then I went to the last WwW show and noticed a Harvey with the Router table fitted....yum.
A handy inclusion.
Asa side note...I visited Baileigh Industrial in Tullamarine the other day and noticed a 10" table saw the is IDENTICAL to our HARVEY....right down to the Sliding table and router table.
Didn't get a price, but will ask next time I'm there.
I'm after a Thicknesser at the moment...any thought would be helpful(Sorry, i know not this forum)
Regards
Peter

[Damienol]

After taking delivery and installing the saw and like just about everybody else, falling in love with it.
I then decided that a sliding table would be nice!
It is a fantastic piece of kit. It allowed a 6 seat table top to be trimmed to length on the Harvey all by my self.
Very impressed.
Then I went to the last WwW show and noticed a Harvey with the Router table fitted....yum.
A handy inclusion.
Asa side note...I visited Baileigh Industrial in Tullamarine the other day and noticed a 10" table saw the is IDENTICAL to our HARVEY....right down to the Sliding table and router table.
Didn't get a price, but will ask next time I'm there.
I'm after a Thicknesser at the moment...any thought would be helpful(Sorry, i know not this forum)
Regards
Peter

i have another post on this however my recomendation is the normal 20" Carbatec and then buy a proper Spiral from RDG.

[FrankyG]

Thanks for the updates guys. This saw is still on my wishlist and it's great to see no regrets still. One day...

[Damienol]

Still love the saw. Point to note is that it is now a LGE 50.

I have made a zero clearance insert and should have done it years ago.

one thing to note is that it is now very hard work raising and lowering the blade. Not sure why. Maybe I need to clean something


when i have 5 mins to spare I will look into it

[FrankyG]

I am finally (after two years) hoping to make my order in the next week.



one thing to note is that it is now very hard work raising and lowering the blade. Not sure why. Maybe I need to clean something
when i have 5 mins to spare I will look into it

Damienol, Did you get it sorted in the end? I remember seeing a couple people with this problem, so it'd be good to know how easy it was to resolve.

I've also discovered that the price of the HW110LGE has gone up by some $600 (to $1500) :'(
The equivalent Carbatech has gone up too ($1300), so I think I'd still pay the extra for the Harvey.

So now I have a couple last questions for everyone:
* Do I really need the HW110LGE, or will I be happy with the HW110HB (or Carbatech MJ2325CT)? (yeah yeah it's subjective. I just need someone to persuade me one way or the other)
* Has anyone else had the problem with the vertical blade movement on the HW110LGE? What did it take to fix it?


I'm strictly a hobbiest, I just like having good stuff. I figure the easier it is to do something, the more likely I'll do it.
I really like the little extras on the HW110LGE - left tilt, riving knife, long arbor.


Thanks

[Damienol]

I am finally (after two years) hoping to make my order in the next week.



Damienol, Did you get it sorted in the end? I remember seeing a couple people with this problem, so it'd be good to know how easy it was to resolve.

I've also discovered that the price of the HW110LGE has gone up by some $600 (to $1500) :'(
The equivalent Carbatech has gone up too ($1300), so I think I'd still pay the extra for the Harvey.

So now I have a couple last questions for everyone:
* Do I really need the HW110LGE, or will I be happy with the HW110HB (or Carbatech MJ2325CT)? (yeah yeah it's subjective. I just need someone to persuade me one way or the other)
* Has anyone else had the problem with the vertical blade movement on the HW110LGE? What did it take to fix it?


I'm strictly a hobbiest, I just like having good stuff. I figure the easier it is to do something, the more likely I'll do it.
I really like the little extras on the HW110LGE - left tilt, riving knife, long arbor.


Thanks

Sorry but I havent even tried to fix it. Having too much fun using it to be too bothered by it.

I am a hobbiest too and my advice is buy the best you can afford. It will serve you well in the long run. Every cheap tool I have ever bought has had to replaced either due to reliability, capability or accuracy issues.

To date I have not had any of these issues with my quality purchases

[Binary01]

one thing to note is that it is now very hard work raising and lowering the blade. Not sure why. Maybe I need to clean something

Not sure if this is helpful to others, but I had the same problem about 6 months ago. In fact it eventually became so tight that it effectively seized (in a low position unfortunately). I cleaned and greased, with no improvement. I called Get Woodworking where I purchased and he hadn't experienced or heard of any similar problems. Eventually I removed the top to get a good look at everything and found that a collar/bush on the that turns the rise/fall worm gear shaft had slipped and allowed the shaft to move back, pushing hard against the back of the saw cabinet. I spaced the end of the shaft off the cabinet, loosened the grub screws on the collar and tapped it back down the shaft and re-tightened the grub screws as tight as I could. The shaft was now spaced back off the cabinet and rise/fall was fixed.
I took pics during in case it would be helpful for others.

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[FrankyG]

Thanks Binary, it makes me feel better there's a solution.
And Damienol, I think you've talked me into it (although I did have a typo - it's $2500 now, not $1500). I think your review has sold enough units you should be getting commission :)

[Damienol]

I just had a quick look to see why the blade height adjustment was so stiff. There was loads of gunk on the gears so I cleaned this off.

Lowering the blade is now very easy. Raising it still takes some effort but that is to be expected given the size of the motor it has to lift

[FrankyG]

For anyone reading this in the next few weeks, Bigger Boyz Toyz seem to be clearing out their Harvey stock - the HW110LGE is currently going for $1999. (Finally a benefit from my procrastination!)

Does anyone have experience buying from them? I haven't heard of anyone buying from there.
I hear nothing but good things about Major Woodworking, but they couldn't come close to matching the price and I really need to save the extra money (about $300 once you factor in different shipping prices).

And a final question. Probably.
Has anyone bought/played with the router wing extension? Is it worthwhile? Does it allow easy height adjustment (or even better, from above the table)?


EDIT: I just made the order. Almost exactly 2 years after this review first convinced me this was the one to get :)
Ordered through Bigger Boyz Toyz - HW110LGE + router table attachment + stupidly expensive shipping to SA

[Dovetonfletcher]

For anyone reading this in the next few weeks, Bigger Boyz Toyz seem to be clearing out their Harvey stock - the HW110LGE is currently going for $1999. (Finally a benefit from my procrastination!)


FrankyG, How was your experience with Bigger Boyz Toys? I'm thinking about the purchasing the HW110LGE-30 from them also, but was concerned, as there is not much customer feedback out there. Is BBT saw setup & accessories same as what Major Woodworking is selling?

[FrankyG]

FrankyG, How was your experience with Bigger Boyz Toys?
No issues so far. It turned up a couple days early and the delivery guy was helpful (and actually called ahead!). No damage to packaging.

I haven't put it together yet however - I ended up moving sheds so I have a bit of work to go lining and putting in power. Might have a crack at putting it together this weekend if I can reclaim enough space.
It looks as though it's untouched since leaving China, which means no quality control in Aus. It remains to be seen how painful replacement parts will be if required.

In terms of the machine my understanding is it's identical.

[_bk201]

Just thought I'd chime in to this thread, as everyone seems to be talking about their experiences with Harvey tablesaws, I bought the 2HP 10" model(~$1500, Majorwoodworking don't seem to sell this model anymore) less than 2 years ago, and last week the motor started smoking, and now won't get up to full speed, apparently Leeson motors are decent but I just got unlucky, hopefully it's just the capacitor.
Other than that I love the saw.

[WAPANDA]

I have the same model the HB30 and love it and the service i got from Major (Ryan) was magic since it had to be shipped to my local dealer here only for extra 200 so i was very happy. Now i have the same model hb30 as others but my motor is
is different on it and I did not ask for an upgrade but I am very happy about it and confirmed it with a mate who has the 50
mine was shipped with the 3hp why ??? factory error or factory ran out of the 2hp but no complaints. I did have a problem with a knife as it had no markings after I emailed The company direct ( Helps a lot when your wife can read and speak the same lingo), they sent me out 2 new ones apparently the where testing thin kerf knife but gave it up and a few batches where sent out by mistake so if you got or get one don't use it doesn't sit in the seat properly and can catch the blade. It's very easy to tell them apart, there is no markings on them at all and if you put calipers on it from memory its about 1.5mm, I cant give you a pic,as I threw it out so i don't grab it by mistake. And last thing i did not like had nothing to do with the machine itself my local guys dropped it off assemble to me, now most wold say great save you assembling it up but I'm left handed and it was set for right handed I tried to leave it as is but it just drove me up the wall. Also the manual it come with is well so so But if you go to the Grizzly web site the have the exact same models just a few things here and there that are different but nothing that will cause you pain and download their PDF ,manual its a much better detail outlay in it

Almost a year now and still purrs It's great saw

http://cdn0.grizzly.com/manuals/g0715p_m.pdf

http://cdn2.grizzly.com/manuals/g0690_m.pdf (http://cdn2.grizzly.com/manuals/g0690_m.pdf)

[FrankyG]

A proper update from me...

I eventually got the saw up and running, only to find that the door had been jammed onto the hinges crooked, warping it. After about 4 months of back & forth with Bigger Boyz Toys I eventually got a new door shipped at no charge. No complaints with the end result, but it did take a little while.
I was also having trouble starting the saw - likely voltage drop due to poor planning when installing the power. After having used the saw for a while the belts seem to have softened up a bit, which makes the starting easier (and warmer weather doesn't hurt).

A final tip - I was having a hard time pushing stock through until I got myself an alignment kit and did it properly. I was using an adjustable square to align at first and it just doesn't compare.

The saw is running beautifully now. I still haven't used it enough to justify the purchase, but it handles anything I give it with ease :)

[Stompa]

Binary01 I read your interesting article about cleaning the worm gear on your Harvey table saw as I have a similar problem with mine, hard to rise and fall. What I would to know is did you put any lubricant on or just leave as is.
Thanks in advance.
Marty

[Binary01]

Hi Marty. I did try cleaning and lubricating the worm gear but to be honest it made no noticeable difference. The big improvement was from pushing the collar back down on the shaft. It was a pain to do but I had no choice as it had seized. I am still a little nervous that the collar will work it's way back up the shaft so I take it easy when raising the blade.

[Dazm]

Hey Superbunny.
Are you still happy with the saw?

I had decided on the Laguna Platinum but after reading a lot of the reviews and the fact that the Harvey is some $1300 cheaper has me reconsidering things.

A lot of people say they're identical but how on earth can they be identical with such a difference in price?


I think this Harvey machine is easily as good as the Laguna equivelent I inspected at the TWWW show and I had a very detailed look around the Laguna as it was my pick at the time. The Hervey I believe is just as well made and I expect it to last me for my days left and I'm taking it to Tasmania next year when I move.


SB

[Alkahestic]

I'm in the same boat as Dazm. I'm tossing up between the Laguna and the Harvey as well. Unless I'm missing them entirely, there are no Harvey dealers in Brisbane, so I can't answer my own question by inspecting one of these saws. I imagine there is bit of mark up for the Laguna brand, but a $1300 markup seems a bit rich.

[Dazm]

Yes I'm still largely undecided. I can get free shipping on the Laguna which closes the gap a bit. I'm also wondering if the dovetail version may be the best way to go and I think only Laguna has the dovetail version.

[Alkahestic]

Can I ask if you've looked at the Sawstop Professional series? I need to get around to Carba-Tec and have an in depth look at them vs the industrial model. I did look at the contractor version a few months ago and they seemed very well built for a contractors saw. But then for the price, they better be.

[Dazm]

Can I ask if you've looked at the Sawstop Professional series? I need to get around to Carba-Tec and have an in depth look at them vs the industrial model. I did look at the contractor version a few months ago and they seemed very well built for a contractors saw. But then for the price, they better be.


Yes I had a look at the SawStop Professional, awesome saw but twice the price.

[DaveVman]

Is the Harvey the same/similar to the Laguna Fusion or the Laguna Platinum? It seems that the L Fusion is the same/similar price to the Harvey.

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[Binary01]

Is the Harvey the same/similar to the Laguna Fusion or the Laguna Platinum? It seems that the L Fusion is the same/similar price to the Harvey.


Laguna Platinum as far as I could tell. Certainly not the Fusion which is a nice saw too, but less substantial than the Harvey / Lag Platinum.

[DomAU]

Yep Laguna platinum. From what I've read, been told and seen, Harvey is the parent company that makes the Laguna Platinum for Laguna and it is the same saw as the Harvey aside from Arbor size, colour and aluminium extrusion vs nylon attached to the fence. Even Laguna suppliers couldn't tell me any other differences. Get the one that your nearest or more trusted/prefered supplier stocks or whichever is cheaper if supplier isn't a factor for you.