View Full Version : Is there a trick to matching filler to an oil finish?
tea.drinker
5th September 2013, 05:12 PM
The some-sort-of-pine I'm working with is a honey sort of blond when dry. I tested the oil finish I wanted to do and it turns a more amber colour.
I got filler that was darker and more orange than the wood when oiled. Maple in colour, I guess would best describe it. But then when I oil over it, its still too pale and light.
Is there a different method to filling wood to get a better result? At this stage even a clear filling would look better.
tea.drinker
5th September 2013, 07:42 PM
I really have no idea what I'm talking about when it come to this stuff so I'm just going throw this out there...
If I take the dust left over from sanding the wood. Mix with the oil so it changes colour.. let it dry a bit, or not.. (coz I'm making this up as I go along..) add some glue... fill the hole? maybe pre oil the hole as well so it all blends.. am I just talking rubbish?
Scott
5th September 2013, 10:48 PM
If I take the dust left over from sanding the wood. Mix with the oil so it changes colour.. let it dry a bit, or not.. (coz I'm making this up as I go along..) add some glue... fill the hole? maybe pre oil the hole as well so it all blends.. am I just talking rubbish?
Nope, you're not talking rubbish, it's a perfectly good idea and something I do all the time. When your sanding try and collect the dust in a small container and mix with wood glue. Instant filler.
tea.drinker
6th September 2013, 09:38 AM
Does it give a more luminous effect?
The filler is very flat in colour making it very obvious in the surrounding wood that becomes more vibrant from applying the oil.
Scott
6th September 2013, 09:43 AM
I suppose that's the issue, the glue dries hard and the oil may not penetrate the glue. Not sure what can be done about it.
tea.drinker
6th September 2013, 10:33 PM
I suppose that's the issue, the glue dries hard and the oil may not penetrate the glue. Not sure what can be done about it.
That was the other issue I was thinking about with using glue... that's why I thought maybe someone had a special way of doing it...
Scott
6th September 2013, 11:00 PM
That was the other issue I was thinking about with using glue... that's why I thought maybe someone had a special way of doing it...
It's okay if you're going to finish with lacquer however not good with oil. I think you'll probably be better off trying to get a filler and match the grain. Or, use a light filler and stain the filler to match the grain.
Skew ChiDAMN!!
6th September 2013, 11:18 PM
You should also keep in mind that regardless of what colour you tint the filler now, it will most likely 'age' differently to the surrounding wood. Usually, a blond timber will darken while the filler stays closer to the original tint.
I guess that this is one of the reasons why restorer's will often cut out and replace small areas of damaged timbers/veneers rather than "simply" using a dab of colour-matched filler. ;)
There's no other way for you to 'tighten up' the joint/crack/whatever in question?
tea.drinker
6th September 2013, 11:28 PM
There's no other way for you to 'tighten up' the joint/crack/whatever in question?
Its a chunk missing out of a table top :(
fineboxes
7th September 2013, 09:00 AM
I use a product called Timber Mate available at Bunnings and most hardware shops.
Great thing about it is that you can mix different colours together as well as lighten and darken colours with Neutral and Ebony (Black)
It's water soluble and can when watered down make a good grain filler but that's another story for another day:U.
The real benefit for me is that the colour has very little, if any, change in colour when a finish is applied.
Get a scrap piece of timber and oil it to the desired finish then mix some colours together to create a match and you're in business.
In my experience it doesn't sink either, once sanded, but make sure it's properly dried before sanding.
Another solution I use are Wax melt sticks, also available from the green shed, bit trickier to use but very effective.
Cheers
Steve