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gemi_babe
13th May 2005, 01:00 PM
Royal Society of Pitbull Culling in Australia.

Anyone here thinking of going to the Million Paws Walk in your state?

If so please look out for the EDBA (Endangered Dog Breeds Association). We have Petitions for an Evidence based inquiry into the efficacy of Breed Specific Legislation in Reducing Dog attacks. Gold ribbons against dog hatred will be for sale for $2 and $3 for your dog, to help raise funds to help families that have thier dogs on death row. These dogs are NOT pitbulls, and thanks to a point score system, Animal Control Officers have wrongly taken them from thier families.
Breed Specific Legislation (BSL) has inherent problems and has been an unmitigated failure in other countries including the UK, USA and Germany, as a means of reducing dog attacks. If the current legislation pertaining to dangerous dogs contained in the Companion Animal Act 1998 were effectively enforced, dog attacks irrespective of breed responsible, would be minimised.

• Brisbane -Two ACO’s took the owner of a Mastiff and a Great Dane to court as they identified it as a Fila Brasileiro, despite the fact that there is no living Fila Brasileiro in Australia. Bronson was returned home after a lengthy stay at the Pound and a day in court.
• Justin Taylor - a quadriplegic on the Gold Coast, his dog Fonzie, was misidentified as a Pit bull however a senior Animal Control officer in court was unable to convince the Magistrate that she was an expert capable of understanding the principles to enable her to use the checklist to identify Fonzie as a Pit bull. Fonzie was returned.
• Tom Bowling from the Gold Coast had his dog identified as a pit bull despite the fact it was a bulldog Labrador cross, he opted to move the dog out of the state, and now he and his dog are living in Venezuela, as it was not a Pit bull it passed through several custom checks and once again shows how flawed the councils checklist is and how their training is inadequate.

How does your dog rate on this test !!!!!!
Ratings- 0- Does not comply NB:- (comment required)
1- Partly Complies
2- Substantially Complies
3- Fully Complies

Body Part
Rating
Please make comments
1. Head – medium in length and is brick wedge shaped 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____

Councils have added wedge

2. Head shape – has a skull shape which is flat and widest at the ears with prominent cheeks free from wrinkles 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____

3. Muzzle – square, wide and deep 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



4. Muzzle – well pronounced jaws, displaying strength 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



5. Upper teeth – meet tightly over lower teeth ( scissor bite) 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



6. Ears – set high on the head and free from wrinkles 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



7. Eyes – round to almond 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____
Councils have added almond


8. Eyes – set far apart, low down on the skull 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



9. Nose – wide open flared nostrils 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____
Councils have added flared


10. Neck – muscular and slightly arched 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



11. Neck – tapers from shoulder to head 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



12. Neck – free from looseness of skin 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____




13. Shoulders – strong and muscular with wide sloping shoulder blades 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____

14. Back – short and strong 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



15. Back – slightly sloping from withers to rump 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____





16. Back – slightly arched at the loins with the loins slightly tucked 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



17. Chest – deep, but not too broad, with well wide sprung ribs 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____
Council add well
18. Tail – short in comparison to the size of the dog, tapers to a fine point and not carried over the back and dose not extend beyond the hocks 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____
Council added
Does not extend over hocks
19. Legs – medium to large, round boned and reasonably strong 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____

20. Feet – of medium size should be in proportion to leg size 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____

Council have added should be proportion to leg size.

21. Thighs – well developed muscles 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



22. Coat – short and stiff to touch 0___ 1___ 2 ___ 3 ____



23. Height – from withers to ground __________________cm



24. Common photo match
Yes_______ No_______




Total Points: _________________/66

Officers Comments:
If your dog scores 45 and over your dog is a pit bull type, scores 66 a pit bull scores under 45 and your dog is safe.


A chiahuahua mets the criteria of a pit bull scoring 50, Goes to show they have no idea.

DanP
13th May 2005, 01:13 PM
AND chihuahua's are more vicious.

flea1607
13th May 2005, 03:06 PM
I agree Dan - chihuahua wont let my children near them at all.

Gumby
13th May 2005, 03:15 PM
I think mine complies.............

Feet = 4
head = 1
Tail = 1
Eyes = 1 (she was in a fight)
Nose = 1
Coat = 1 (short hair)
Dog Poo = everywhere

Yep, it's all adding up, she's definitely a dog. :eek:

LineLefty
13th May 2005, 03:17 PM
I'm definitely going on the walk. The greyhound adoption people put on a big show and try and get as many hounds there as possible. Poor things keep getting terrified by the viscious pit bulls though ;)

Seriously though, if you want a mean, tough, alert and ever watchfull guard dog for the back of your ute, then you'll be sorely dissapointed with a pitbull. You're better of with a jack russell.

journeyman Mick
13th May 2005, 03:36 PM
Well, he's no longer with me :( but going on the above checklist, my bluey was really mostly pit bull :confused:

Mick

DanP
13th May 2005, 09:07 PM
The big mistake here is classifying a breed (any breed) of dog. The problem with pit bulls is the type of owner they attract. But the same can be said of Rottweillers German Shepards, Ridgebacks, Mastiffs, Dobermans and all the other 'tough' dogs. Smaller dogs by nature tend to be more vicious, especially towards children.

Today Tonight had a story on it tonight about a Pomeranian that was declared dangerous after it was out and bit the policeman who 'apprehended' it. Naomi was getting all righteous (sp) about the council declaring it a dangerous dog. I say that if the thing went the copper who picked it up, then would it not do the same to a small child who just wanted to give it a pat?

I grew up with police dogs (German Shepards and some Rottweillers) that were trained to bite. They were, however, trained to be docile at home and they all were, except one who was mad as a hatter and ended up taking the green dream. My point is that if a dog is treated right and trained properly, it will never present a risk to those who present no risk to it or its family.

Dan

Gingermick
13th May 2005, 09:32 PM
Sounds a bit like my boss

Gingermick
13th May 2005, 09:40 PM
I have a German Shep X alaskan malamaute and am looking after in laws Rottweiler and Ridgeback. I also have a 1.25, 2.5 and 9yr old kids and I trust these dogs with my little girl (littlest of them all, and naughtiest). They have been brought up by people with no interest in violence and are as soft a, a..... very soft thing.

Probably even pit bulls can be raised to be happy softies.

But i'm also fairly sure that if you come in to my place and do something bad these dogs would stop you. No training, just lots of lovehttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif