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Mutawintji
6th May 2013, 01:54 PM
Who am I: Number VII


Explanations of Cognitive Dissonance:





In modern psychology, cognitive dissonance is the discomfort experienced when simultaneously holding two or more conflicting cognitions: ideas, beliefs, values or emotional reactions. In a state of dissonance, people may sometimes feel "disequilibrium": frustration, hunger, dread, guilt, anger, embarrassment, anxiety, etc.

The phrase was coined by Leon Festinger in his 1956 book When Prophecy Fails, which chronicled the followers of a UFO cult as reality clashed with their fervent belief in an impending apocalypse. Festinger subsequently (1957) published a book called A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance in which he outlines the theory. Cognitive dissonance is one of the most influential and extensively studied theories in social psychology.

The theory of cognitive dissonance in social psychology proposes that people have a motivational drive to reduce dissonance by altering existing cognitions, adding new ones to create a consistent belief system, or alternatively by reducing the importance of any one of the dissonant elements.It is the distressing mental state that people feel when they "find themselves doing things that don't fit with what they know, or having opinions that do not fit with other opinions they hold."

A key assumption is that people want their expectations to meet reality, creating a sense of equilibrium. Likewise, another assumption is that a person will avoid situations or information sources that give rise to feelings of uneasiness, or dissonance.

Cognitive dissonance theory explains human behavior by positing that people have a bias to seek consonance between their expectations and reality. According to Festinger, people engage in a process he termed "dissonance reduction", which can be achieved in one of three ways: lowering the importance of one of the discordant factors, adding consonant elements, or changing one of the dissonant factors. This bias sheds light on otherwise puzzling, irrational, and even destructive behavior.





People also tend to reaffirm already held beliefs: Congeniality bias (also referred to as Confirmation Bias) refers to how people read or access information that affirms their already established opinions, rather than referencing material that contradicts them. For example, a person who is politically conservative might only read newspapers and watch news commentary that is from conservative news sources. This bias appears to be particularly apparent when faced with deeply held beliefs, i.e., when a person has 'high commitment' to his or her attitudes.



The Fox and the Grapes

A classic illustration of cognitive dissonance is expressed in the fable The Fox and the Grapes by Aesop.

In the story, a fox sees some high-hanging grapes and wishes to eat them. When the fox is unable to think of a way to reach them, he decides that the grapes are probably not worth eating, with the justification the grapes probably are not ripe or that they are sour (hence the common phrase "sour grapes").

This example follows a pattern: one desires something, finds it unattainable, and reduces one's dissonance by criticizing it.

Cognitive Dissonance in blunt terms can be expressed as narrow-mindedness ... A refusal to see the broader picture, this refusal can be so deep seated that its act is unconscious. The reason for refusal is the fear of inner turmoil that ensues when we step outside our comfort zone.

When we spend a large sum of money that may not have been necessary, the 'high' of the acquisition is quickly followed by the depressive 'low' of spending scarce resources on what was not really necessary. (a common occurrence on this forum for all of us I fear purchasing unnecessary tools ... haaa)

We rationalise this by convincing ourselves it was a bargain, it will save money 'in the future', we needed it for such and such a reason .. ... and other such BS.




The Quiz Question:

Cognitive Dissonance is the ability that all humans possess, to tell ourselves comforting lies, convincingly and unknowingly, in order to avoid a truth we cannot explain or immediately accept..

What short Nursery Rhyme succinctly sums this up ?


(Google iz allowed !!)

Greg

artme
6th May 2013, 05:26 PM
... and here was I thinking cognitive dissonance was the stress that arose from the conflict caused when the mind overrides the body's desire to kick the living shyte out of some twerp who actually deserved it!!!!
:D:D:D

Mutawintji
6th May 2013, 06:56 PM
Wow .... Looks like I am on a winner here. A google proof question .... Haahaa

Greg

artme
6th May 2013, 07:58 PM
Mate, i growed up a long time ago!! I've forgotten most nursery Rhymes.

Was only when I was of more mature years that I twigged onto the real meaning of some of
those jingles. And to try to now associate any with cognitive dissonance ( undreamt of at the
time they wee composed ), is stretching the few good grey matter cells I have left.:C

Apart from that thieving liar of a Jack Horner I am bereft of ideas!:sad1:

I think a snort or two of a good fluid may help.!:D

Mutawintji
6th May 2013, 09:10 PM
I will wait and see if Big Shed drops in ... If not I'll give a clue.

greg

Grommett
6th May 2013, 09:15 PM
Possibly Mary. One of the variants has cuckolds in a row!

ian
6th May 2013, 10:09 PM
ring a ring of rosies
a pocket pull of posies
a'tish-u, a'tish-u
we all fall down


?

artme
6th May 2013, 10:49 PM
No nursery rhymes about GW Bush are there?? He'd fit magnificently.:D:D:D

Thought of Little Miss Muffet... nah; Georgie Porgie .. nah; Mary, Mary.. have to think more on that but it doesn't seem to fit.
Sing a Song of Sixpence ...........Nah.

Process of elimination will be slow so I shall go to bed and sleep on it.

Mutawintji
7th May 2013, 07:26 AM
Sorry Michael, Ian and Arthur ... All wrong.

Clue 1: Cognitive Dissonance .. Faced with a new concept, idea, reality .. You ignore it, mostly unconsciously, and reaffirm your own stability/reality by only allowing the familiar to penetrate your mind.


Itz a good clue ... And probably too much now given away.

Greg

Grommett
7th May 2013, 08:47 AM
Hmmm. When Humpty Dumpty used a word it meant exactly what he meant, no more, no less.

Mutawintji
7th May 2013, 09:15 AM
Sorry .. no .... nice try :)

This nursery rhyme literally describes the person seeing the 'new reality' and ignoring it ... unable to 'realise' it and so reducing it to the 'reality' he/she is familiar with.

Greg

Grommett
7th May 2013, 09:50 AM
Hang on, what's the one about the kings new suit of clothes?

Mutawintji
7th May 2013, 10:19 AM
Sorry .... but getting closer ... (by the inclusion of royalty)

Greg

artme
7th May 2013, 06:28 PM
When Mary had a little lamb the doctor was surprised,
But when old MacDonald had a farm - He couldn't believe his eyes!!:o

artme
8th May 2013, 03:52 PM
Now it's not Little Jack Horner, even though I can see two possibilities here.

It's not The Emperor's New Clothes, Mostly because I suppose this is a story,
not a nursery rhyme and not a short one at that. Mind you it is a beautiful fit.:D:D

So, from the clue given it has to involve royalty.

Does the reference to royalty need to be direct or can it be oblique or suggested?

It pains me to ask these questions.:B

Mutawintji
8th May 2013, 04:53 PM
It pains me to ask these questions.:B

Haaa .... The reference to royalty may be oblique.


If a person of a limited worldview, mindset ... was to be shown something beyond any concept he/she could imagine, they would immediately try to reference it, to reduce it, to make it conform to experiences, events, knowledge that they already are the master of.

They would explain it to themselves in light of their own experience .... even tho no such comparison or relationship can exist because this is new thing, new event, new reality beyond all previous experience. We ALL do this to a greater or lesser extent, none of us are exempt.

If you ask a simple baker about politics he may explain it according to the behaviour of dough. A shoe maker may stick to his last. And all thru this, the true, the bigger, the broader reality is totally unseen by their limited mindsets.

The nursery rhyme shows us this behaviour in a broader light. So that we can see it from 'outside' and not 'inside'. So that we may break free of our own inner limitations.

The nursery rhyme is four lines long.

The first and the second line 'rhyme'
The third and the fourth line 'rhyme'

29 words in total including repeats.You know it well, and its quite well known, and could be recited by anyone from memory ... I tink.

(OMG I can't believe I have invented a google proof question ..... HAAAAAHAAAA :)) )

Greg

Grommett
8th May 2013, 06:29 PM
You are evil. I was out walking and thinking I just don't know enough nursery rhymes and then I see the last post and it seems I must know it. Aaaaaaaargh.

ian
8th May 2013, 07:45 PM
Haaa .... The reference to royalty may be oblique.

snip

The nursery rhyme shows us this behaviour in a broader light. So that we can see it from 'outside' and not 'inside'. So that we may break free of our own inner limitations.

The nursery rhyme is four lines long.

The first and the second line 'rhyme'
The third and the fourth line 'rhyme'

29 words in total including repeats.You know it well, and its quite well known, and could be recited by anyone from memory ... I tink.

(OMG I can't believe I have invented a google proof question ..... HAAAAAHAAAA :)) )

GregI'm leaning towards some tarts and the Knave of Hearts

Grommett
8th May 2013, 07:51 PM
Twinkle twinkle little star

How I wonder what you are.

Up above the world so high

Like a diamond in the sky.


Damm only 22 words and no royalty

artme
8th May 2013, 08:11 PM
Thought of that one Ian, but ruled it out early in the piece as it doesn't fit the parameters.

Also toooooooooooooooooo many words.

enelef
8th May 2013, 08:16 PM
i don't get the yolk.

rwbuild
8th May 2013, 11:14 PM
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses and all the kings men
Could not put poor Humpty together again

1st & 2nd rhym
3rd & 4th rhym
King is royalty

mutter mutter, only 28 words :doh:

rwbuild
8th May 2013, 11:17 PM
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses and all the kings men
Could not put poor Humpty Dumpty together again

1st & 2nd rhyme
3rd & 4th rhyme
King is royalty

29 words



Edited :wink:

ian
8th May 2013, 11:53 PM
Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall
Humpty Dumpty had a great fall
All the kings horses and all the kings men
Could not put poor Humpty together again

1st & 2nd rhym
3rd & 4th rhym
King is royalty
so Humpty wasn't made by Faberge :)

perhaps

Georgie Porgy pudding and pie

Kissed all the girls and made them cry

When the boys came out to play 

Georgie Porgie ran away

(Georgie = The Prince Regent, the future King George IV)

rwbuild
9th May 2013, 12:06 AM
so Humpty wasn't made by Faberge :)

perhaps
Georgie Porgy pudding and pie

Kissed all the girls and made them cry

When the boys came out to play 

Georgie Porgie ran away

(Georgie = The Prince Regent, the future King George IV)

24 words, not 29 :wink:

Mutawintji
9th May 2013, 08:20 AM
Good Grief ..... Looks like I picked a hard one here .... I tort it would have been found by now. Don't know whats happened to Big Shed ...


Imagine ... You are shown something incomprehensible, beyond your ken, outside all your previous experience. ... then you are asked to describe what you have seen. But all you can do is reply in your own limited experience. You ignore, quite unconsciously, what you have seen, you simply do not take it in, and so you only describe the bits that are familiar, what else can you do ? You are experiencing Cognitive Dissonance.

1st line is a question: What have you been up to, mate ?
2nd line is an answer: I have been doing this, going there.
3rd line is a question: What was the view like ?
4th line is an answer: Not really any different to here, nuthin out of the ordinary !

This is a condition all of us experience, sometimes daily.

If I was to say the first word of the rhyme here, just that one word ... all of you would know it immediately .. haaa

My next post I will give the rhyme .. sorry for it being so hard ... I truly didn't think it would be unguessable, hard, but not that hard. I was trying to slow Arthur down to a few posts, at least, as he was getting all the others first up.

cool bananas ... Greg

artme
9th May 2013, 08:47 AM
Pussycat pussycat where have you been?
I've been up to London to visit the queen.
Pussycat pussycat what did you dare?
I frightened a little mouse under her chair.


A fit with 29 words.

A very metaphorical example Greg!!

Mutawintji
9th May 2013, 09:04 AM
MERDE !!


I tort I had you for sure !!!


Pussycat, Pussycat, where have you been ?
I've been to London to see the Queen !
Pussycat, Pussycat, what saw you there ?
I saw a little mouse run under a chair !

Exposed to the incomprehensible majesty of royalty, pomp and ceremony (for a pussycat) he failed to see it, and only saw what he was familiar, with, a mouse. He could only comprehend his own narrow minded affairs.

And from these affairs, we fight wars, we vote and make decisions that affect all of us, and all the time believing that we are rational and in total command of all the facts ... Haaaa

Don't we all do this everyday in little ways ?

Very well done Arthur ... bummer !!!!!

Greg

Grommett
9th May 2013, 10:02 AM
Very nice. I did enjoy that.

artme
9th May 2013, 01:15 PM
I had an epiphany as I sorted this out.

I have a younger brother whose attitude had always been "What do you want to go overseas for? We have
stuff here that is just as good or better!"

Now I know what he suffered from!!:D:D

He was cured by a trip to Scotland!!!

enelef
9th May 2013, 07:36 PM
well played sir, well played.:2tsup: