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artme
24th April 2013, 09:32 PM
Just Vote on this question:
Who is responsible for the oft (mis)quoted say about the law being an ass:
Charles dickens
George Bernard Shaw
Henry Glapthorne
Bertrand Russell
Samuel Johnson
George Chapman
GourmetSaint
24th April 2013, 09:35 PM
Gbs?
Big Shed
24th April 2013, 09:36 PM
Charles Dickens
Scott
24th April 2013, 10:19 PM
Dickens
robbygard
24th April 2013, 10:46 PM
i remember reading one time that it was wrongly attributed to dickens but can't remember who (if indeed the article said) it was ... i would guess gbs who said many clever things
regards d avid
artme
24th April 2013, 11:00 PM
Dickens 2
GBS 2
Grommett
24th April 2013, 11:17 PM
Gbs
Grommett
24th April 2013, 11:18 PM
I just googled.
Sturdee
24th April 2013, 11:42 PM
I just googled.
So did I, but I won't spoil it.
Peter.
michael_m
24th April 2013, 11:42 PM
Dickens - from Oliver Twist, from memory
artme
24th April 2013, 11:43 PM
Gotta love a confession - or two!!!:q
cava
25th April 2013, 04:55 AM
Henry Glapthorne
artme
25th April 2013, 07:42 AM
Dickens 3
GBS 3
Google 2
Glapthorne 1
Entries close, Friday 26th April.:)
Optimark
25th April 2013, 06:08 PM
We did this in school, the teacher had an extremely difficult time ensuring we pronounced the word as "ass" instead of how we thought it should be pronounced, "arrrse".
Being a school border come dinner time, all you could hear around our class table were many variations of rolling ones r :U
I'm going with Dickens in Oliver Twist.
Mick.
Edit, funny how something like this stays with you for your life and is instantly returned from the dark recess of the brain, it was nearly 50 years ago.
Mutawintji
25th April 2013, 07:09 PM
Bertrand Russell ... From memory he was an iconoclast.
greg
artme
26th April 2013, 07:21 PM
Dickens 4 votes
George Bernard Shaw 3 votes
Bertrand Russell 1 vote
Henry Glapthorne 1 Vote
Google 2 Votes:wink:
Dickens is often thought to be the originator of this quote through the personage of the lawyer Mr. Bumble in Oliver Twist
The first reference to this quote, however is in a play credited to Henry Glapthorne in 1653
As Dickens was a voracious reader it is possible that he came across this in his reading and later dragged it from his memory banks
when writing Oliver Twist.
A Duke
26th April 2013, 07:33 PM
And it hasn't changed.
Bushmiller
26th April 2013, 10:04 PM
Noticed the thread too late, but for what it worth I was going to say Glapthorne :- .
No no I wasn't. All right I confess I hadn't heard of him. I was going to say Samuel Johnson firstly because I thought the saying dated back a way and secondly because nobody else thought it was him. Lastly because there might have been more profit to be turned on the rank outsider :rolleyes: .
Regards
Paul
Chesand
27th April 2013, 09:59 AM
As Dickens was a voracious reader it is possible that he came across this in his reading and later dragged it from his memory banks
when writing Oliver Twist.
"Cut & Paste" is obviously not new.:D
Big Shed
27th April 2013, 11:12 AM
Actually it wasn't Glapthorne but George Chapman, see here (I won't cut and paste:D:rolleyes:)
The law is an ass (http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/the-law-is-an-ass.html)
And as you can see, there is some doubt that it is either.
As your question was
Who is responsible for the oft (mis)quoted say about the law being an ass:
I put it to you that Charles Dickes is still the correct answer as he popularised the say and put it in the public domain to enable it to be "oft (mis)quoted"
Your question was not "Who first coined this phrase":no:
artme
27th April 2013, 01:19 PM
I knew someone would come up with that!!
Let me quote my old woodwork teacher "Don't argue son, I know!" :D:p