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womble
29th April 2005, 02:20 PM
Weep tears of laughter or sorrow...hard to decide! As a school teacher here in Australia I often wonder where our society is heading in terms of values, education standards etc...then I read this blog and I feel all better...NOT! ;)
Im so0o hyper!!! lol wellz today I went 2 skewl had ta take sum dumb test that took like 3 hours *bleh!!* after skool i got ta see brandon (my sxy *****!!) and some other friends~ at like iunno 7? i went dwn ta the park ta see who was all there and i was like OMG cuz Carl and traves were dwn there i havent seen them in like iunno 5 monthz it was kewlness!! of cours i got there numbers n all that good stuffz ta stay in touch n thass about it! lol fun huh? so0o sense i told you boutz muh pretty boring day im going to go crah upstairs Peace Outz
Jeeees...can you butcher a language more? I've seen 6 year olds write better! :eek:
Damian
Sir Stinkalot
29th April 2005, 02:31 PM
I don't understand why you would type "Monthz" as apposed to "Months" .... its the same number of letters and the "z" and "s" are almost next to each other .... its actually further to get to the "z" from the "h".
Dan
29th April 2005, 02:57 PM
.... its actually further to get to the "z" from the "h".
There's your mistake, you're trying to use logic.....so unkewl dude. :)
silentC
29th April 2005, 03:00 PM
I don't understand
Maybe you answered your own question there.... ;)
AlexS
29th April 2005, 03:30 PM
My worry is that I DID understand. Am I going through my 2nd childhood?
ozwinner
29th April 2005, 08:06 PM
That should keep the spelling Nazis happy for a while.
Al :cool:
Gumby
29th April 2005, 08:19 PM
Itz a reel wurri wen tha yunger ones dont speek or rite proper ;)
echnidna
29th April 2005, 08:22 PM
two rite goomby
Iain
30th April 2005, 11:54 AM
I remember years ago when I was in the good ole US of A an advert on the side of a bus that was offering a sort of bastardised shorthand, it something like 'u cn lrn sht hnd n jst 2 wks' underneath someone had scrawled in the mud and grime 'FK NXN'
Made my day but I wonder where (or should that be wear, ware, were) it is going.
Having said that both my girls can read and write and the youngest delights in homophones.
vsquizz
30th April 2005, 01:49 PM
I'm having problems with my 4 1/2 year old at the moment. She's only in kindy and SWMBO got called into the teachers office the other day. It seems my daughter is bored at Kindy, (she was expecting to do some maths and english) but she is the only kid in the class who can hold a pen properly, write her name, count to 20, recite the alphabet and structure sentences.
The educational "expert" has assessed her as quite the norm just miles in front of her peers and wanted to know what home education she had had. The Missus and I laughed. You see our kids have heaps of books, we read to them every day and answer their questions. Discipline is fairly strict in our house and we are big on manners but apart from that we don't push our kids at all.
I'd like to know what the other kids have been doing??. In the mean time the school is trying to decide wether to put her up into the pre-school class. Makes you wonder if my girl has "quite normal" aptitude then what is going on out there in the general community.
Cheers
gatiep
30th April 2005, 02:28 PM
These kids, besides their crazy new words like cool, hyper, ta, iunno, cuz etc ( I heard a 70 year old use 'cool' the other day ) are spelling their words as they say them ( phonetics ). To a person for whom English is my 4 th laguage, I have always felt that the English have no correlation between spelling and pronouncuation. ( Well very little ). I used to be fluent in 7 languages and in all of them, except english, you spell as you say it. The worst offenders of bad spelling and sometimes even the use of the english language seem to come from the UK, as is bourne out by some posts on this bulletin board.
Maybe these kids are initiating a new universal language. It seems to kind of go with the sms messages that they constantly send. Maybe it their way of putting accross the emotions, as they seem to sms more than what they speak.
A language revolution, like the power tool/ darkside revolution of the last few decades.
RETIRED
30th April 2005, 06:51 PM
I'm having problems with my 4 1/2 year old at the moment. She's only in kindy and SWMBO got called into the teachers office the other day. It seems my daughter is bored at Kindy, (she was expecting to do some maths and english) but she is the only kid in the class who can hold a pen properly, write her name, count to 20, recite the alphabet and structure sentences.
The educational "expert" has assessed her as quite the norm just miles in front of her peers and wanted to know what home education she had had. The Missus and I laughed. You see our kids have heaps of books, we read to them every day and answer their questions. Discipline is fairly strict in our house and we are big on manners but apart from that we don't push our kids at all.
I'd like to know what the other kids have been doing??. In the mean time the school is trying to decide wether to put her up into the pre-school class. Makes you wonder if my girl has "quite normal" aptitude then what is going on out there in the general community.
Cheers
Squizzy. How dare you try to educate your child?
The TV is for baby sitting kids so that they keep out of your way. Didn't you know that?
Books are used for standing on to get to the biccy barrel. Didn't you know that?
When they get to be teenagers, if they annoy you you get a bigger house so that they have their space to do what they want or you give them money to spend so they go out and you don't have to worry about them. Don't you know that?
Strict discipline? You are supposed to say "don't do that Johnny or Betty" and never follow up with punishment. Don't you know that?
I knew all this and wouldn't allow my kids any of it. Harsh maybe but they all have a uni education, hold down responsible jobs, aren't alchoholics or druggees and actually respect other people.
I'm with you Squizzy.
bitingmidge
30th April 2005, 07:37 PM
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I'm with you Squizzy.
Me too!
And I thought we were the last ones standing that thought like that!!
We have three lovely people who appreciate all that went into raising them to be independant...right up to the time we ran away from home!
I apologised to them each on their 21st birthday for not letting them play computer games... and by then none of them thought that was unreasonable!
Cheers,
P
:D :D :D
ozwinner
30th April 2005, 07:47 PM
Me too!
And I thought we were the last ones standing that thought like that!!
We have three lovely people who appreciate all that went into raising them to be independant...right up to the time we ran away from home!
I apologised to them each on their 21st birthday for not letting them play computer games... and by then none of them thought that was unreasonable!
Cheers,
P
:D :D :D
Totaly agree with all the self help, stand on you own two feet approach.
Instead of the, ooooohhhhhh, when is the government going to do something for me thing. Loosers.:(
Al :p
vsquizz
30th April 2005, 08:22 PM
Squizzy. How dare you try to educate your child?
Sorry about that...silly me..quick turn the simpsons on and call your Dad by his first name (Now that would have incurred the flogging of a lifetime:D )
And I thought we were the last ones standing that thought like that!!
Thats the thing, its us not the kids that are to blame.
Instead of the, ooooohhhhhh, when is the government going to do something for me thing. Loosers
Article in the West Oz paper today with one of the builders saying there is no excuse for any able bodied western australian to be unemployed as the building game is screaming for people. Oh my god...Not the building industry...Oh dear..I might actually have to work, get dirty and only earn double the dole in a week if I'm a real dunce...I really don't think its worth it:rolleyes: so I'll wander off to Centreclunk, fill out my forms and then have a cappaccino with my mates while we complain about the Howard Government bullying us poor unemployed.
Apologies (for the sarcasm) to those generally down on their luck and looking for a job.
Cheers
boban
30th April 2005, 08:23 PM
Mine are 5,7 and 9.
All can read, and were desperate to learn to do so.
More importantly, they know if they do something wrong they have a choice between the brown belt or the black belt. I actually hate following through but my kids are not going to be stealing, lying, cheating, drug taking little brats with no respect for the law or others.
Kids are not weeds, they don't grow up by themselves. They might get bigger but they dont grow up.
vsquizz
30th April 2005, 09:14 PM
they have a choice between the brown belt or the black belt.
Didn't know you were into karate...:rolleyes:
The old man used to have a gun belt with the little ribs in it to hold 22 shells, had to watch out for that one:eek:
Cheers
E. maculata
30th April 2005, 10:16 PM
Hey Squizzy, you're not alone. My motto I ain't gunna be like my old man, but I am a parent first and if I can also be a friend, great if not, my job is to be a Dad.
I think too many people (parents??) take the easy way out, emotionally it is much easier not to disclipline, & just be one of the kids yourself. I don't believe in overly physically disclipline, but each kid is different ie; my son can take almost any sort of pain with a grin (serial walking accident zone, sorta like his ole man really) but speak to him harshly and he goes to pieces, the Daughter has a quick wit and a smart tongue when she wants (SWMNBO & I point the finger at each other over that trait) but reacts noisily to toy/computer confiscation & an very occassionally pat on the bum.
On the literacy/numeracy issue daughter could read and comprehend at 7 yr old level by 4, and is now just above age appropriate, but is an absolute mathematics and human nature wizz, the son(really old 4 yr old. so he thinks!) can read his name count to 10, traverse their computer, rode a pushbike at 3, (took his own training wheels off, "used the 14 spanner dad"),& minibikes understands correlation between nuts & spanner sizes, handles a hammer like his uncles (all but me are chippies by trade)and is more at home in the shed with tools and gear than many teenagers. But both can still drive you up the wall with behaviour, but was I any different, according to Mum no (I'm oldest of 7)
Some of the best people I know were Sh7thead kids, some of the nastiest people I know were kids who were brought up by very together parents in a great atmosphere
Guess what I'm saying is each kid has different traits and behaviours and has different stimulii and we shouldn't Box them (We hate that when people do it too us, don't we), as we all are who we are.
Bruce C.
(crikey I reckon mighta given 7 cents worth that time)
Sir Stinkalot
30th April 2005, 10:30 PM
I'd like to know what the other kids have been doing??.
.... They are all being force fed happy meals so they can become the next obese generation.
boban
30th April 2005, 10:40 PM
You're right Bruce they are all different. My oldest will cry if I get angry at him as will number 2. The baby girl is more resilient. But there has to be some degree of consistency.
All three cry more in anticipation of the belt rather than the physical pain. I certainly dont go overboard and occasional is the best way to describe it.
As far as bad kids/good adults and vise versa, there are always the exceptions. There are no guarantees that what we do will result in good adults but I think it will at least give them the best possible chance.
If I could chose the way my children would turn out. It would have nothing to do with intelligence or talent, it would simply be well grounded individuals who had enough respect for themselves, others and their environment.
Ahh the joys of parenthood.
Barry_White
30th April 2005, 11:07 PM
What you have to remember is that God takes a kids brain out at age 14 and doesn't put it back until they are 24. My three kids gave me hell over those 10 years. Today you would never believe what they were like.
If the effort is put into them up to that age the benefit will all come out when they get over the terrible teens and the early adulthood.
spbookie
30th April 2005, 11:40 PM
Gentlefolk,
May I sum the situation up.
The days of good English has went.
Charles
AlexS
2nd May 2005, 05:25 PM
I'm having problems with my 4 1/2 year old at the moment. She's only in kindy and SWMBO got called into the teachers office the other day. It seems my daughter is bored at Kindy, (she was expecting to do some maths and english) but she is the only kid in the class who can hold a pen properly, write her name, count to 20, recite the alphabet and structure sentences.
The educational "expert" has assessed her as quite the norm just miles in front of her peers and wanted to know what home education she had had. The Missus and I laughed. You see our kids have heaps of books, we read to them every day and answer their questions. Discipline is fairly strict in our house and we are big on manners but apart from that we don't push our kids at all.
I'd like to know what the other kids have been doing??. In the mean time the school is trying to decide wether to put her up into the pre-school class. Makes you wonder if my girl has "quite normal" aptitude then what is going on out there in the general community.
Cheers
I was going to post an ironic reply, but said it all. I believe the best start in education is reading to/with your kids. And the best way to help them develop into good people is to spend time with them.
Interesting thoughts on punishment...If you do it consistently from the time they're little, you rarely have to do it when they're older.
As for electronic games...SWMBO is searching for a Donkey Kong game & watch for daughter's 30th birthday...she wasn't allowed to have one when she was a child. :D