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ryanarcher
28th April 2005, 04:40 PM
needless to say the regular posters here make up a pretty tight knit community and would probably even consider each other mates :) . after reading about Mick's swmbo, I found my self wondering if there could be some mechanism for notifying others of life changing events in the the members lives.
In the firefighters union, we have an elected "public information officer" who among other things notifies the union body (by email) of births, deaths, injuries requiring hospitalization, marriges, and whatever else seems appropriate. The union membership may then send flowers, etc individually if they feel like it.
Natrually it would have to be much less formal here, but i thought that we could organise a group email list that anyone who wants could put thier name on. then when someone hears word of a life changing event, an email would be shot out stating the nature of the event and the address which cards, flowers, etc could be sent. This vehicle would kind of rely on all you guys who are buddies in real life (not just this forum) and talk on the phone, etc.
Any better ideas? Without bieng a morose jerk, we have some brilliant contributing members who are getting up there in years and it sure would be a shame for them to just dissapear without a strong show of solidarity from this great group. :)

Rocker
28th April 2005, 05:48 PM
Ryan,

I may have one foot in the grave, but don't write me off yet :D

Couldn't the Announcements, or perhaps the Birthday Greetings forum be used for this purpose. However, since not many of us are over 70, and we should have a life expectancy of over 80, hopefully the question won't arise for for quite a few years.

Rocker

Zed
28th April 2005, 05:49 PM
are you sure your a yank ? :-)

TassieKiwi
28th April 2005, 06:10 PM
I've often thought the same. One could shuffle off this mortal board, never to be seen again, and no-one the wiser. I would wager too that the 'other half' of the crook, incapacitated (or worse:eek: ) BB member would never get an inkling of the genuine depth of feeling from the 'community' here, as there is no channel for this.

My wife simply thinks that it is wierd that I chat to a bunch of strangers about woodwork, however. :(

beejay1
28th April 2005, 06:29 PM
Not sure I see the need for such a vehicle personally. All members are able to post details of personal matters or events should they wish to do so and many do.
Yes there is a club spirit here and some members know others quite well and i also think the things that matter are brought to the other members' attention.
All members are generally respected by the others without the need to introduce a personal welfare or counselling column and i for one do not wish to come in here to read the obituaries thank you. I can just see it now,,,,,,,,,,

"Fred Dead.......Triton for sale"http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif
Sorry but thats not for me. I know the idea is well intended but it could end up with people feeling obliged to send cards, flowers, gifts, etc etc simply because others are doing so and the whole thing could get out of hand.
In my opinion the forum already facilitates best wishes and thoughts and announcements to be made by anyone who wants to and to that end doesnt require embellishment.
beejay1

http://community.webshots.com/user/eunos9

Sir Stinkalot
28th April 2005, 06:46 PM
Did Fred have the height riser and dust bucket? Is he willing to seperate? Check your PM :D

jow104
28th April 2005, 06:46 PM
are you sure your a yank ? :-)

Zed,

Rocker used to reside and live only around 6 miles from my home. :confused:

Wayne Davy
28th April 2005, 10:23 PM
I think Zed was refering to Ryan ;)

craigb
28th April 2005, 10:27 PM
Did Fred have the height riser and dust bucket? Is he willing to seperate? Check your PM :D

ROTFLMAO

jow104
28th April 2005, 11:09 PM
I think Zed was refering to Ryan ;)


Sorry Zed, Bellingham, remember having fresh oysters there. next day went over the Cascades, unmade roads at 8000ft.

E. maculata
29th April 2005, 12:25 AM
I'm still digesting the fact that one of our American brothers uses the term "Solidarity" in the correct manner(Bludy ell next it'll be "Comrades"). Good onya Ryan, keep killing those stereotypical images for us mate. :)

jow104
29th April 2005, 12:52 AM
I'm still digesting the fact that one of our American brothers uses the term "Solidarity" in the correct manner(Bludy ell next it'll be "Comrades"). Good onya Ryan, keep killing those stereotypical images for us mate. :)

Bruce ,

I have found the Americans the most generous and over the past nearly 100 years the best allies the west have ever known. Think how many yanks died in Europe and the Pacific wars when they could have stayed neutral.

adrian
29th April 2005, 12:59 AM
It's a nice idea but logistically not practical. Besides, it has gone off-topic so quickly it wouldn't get support. It had as good a reception as my Safety Forum suggestion.

ryanarcher
29th April 2005, 01:27 AM
Sorry David, didn't mean to imply that :o . Remember, you only put your name on the EMAIL list if you want to , and i expect that there will be enough people that no one would feel obliged to send flowers.
It definately will not become a bb forum for personal issues or anythig else.

Picture this hypothetical situation. Scott wongo and co. have another kid. he is definately not going to run straight to the bb to anounce the new arrival durring the first few days,, but if a fellow bb member who is a friend hears about it and shoots off a group email with the info and address of the hospital, I'm sure a few bouquet's of flowers and cards with inapropriate jokes would follow :D . His swmbo would then begin to forgive the amount of time he spends on the bb. ;)

since we definately don't want our address posted on the bb, it probably would only be an email thing for those regulars who wish to join. Whattya think comrades :D .?
-Ryan

silentC
29th April 2005, 09:41 AM
Think how many yanks died in Europe and the Pacific wars when they could have stayed neutral.
Ummm, there was the small matter of Pearl Harbour, John....


Whattya think comrades
Yes, it is something that has crossed my mind. People disappear off the air waves and you do wonder whether something unpleasant (or pleasant I suppose) has happened. Not everyone carks it from old age...

The only thing is that if the person has contacts with forum members outside the forum, then they will probably post anyway, for example when John posted regarding Bob's impending nuptials.

I suppose you could put it in your will: In the event of my death, please send an email to the woodies - but don't let any of the bastards near my shed.

bitingmidge
29th April 2005, 09:57 AM
To save much typing:

I agree with Silent, word for word!


P :D

journeyman Mick
29th April 2005, 10:24 AM
Cut and paste from previous poste to save typing: :D

I agree with Silent, word for word!

Mick

Iain
29th April 2005, 11:24 AM
's still with us, I saw his sweet smiling face yesterday as I drove past.
NB: I'm OK too :p

TassieKiwi
29th April 2005, 11:35 AM
I suppose you could put it in your will: In the event of my death, please send an email to the woodies - but don't let any of the bastards near my shed.
At least not until the SWMBO auction, 1 day later.......:D

ryanarcher
29th April 2005, 02:54 PM
well, i guess i should consider this idea well and truly shot down. ;) as a last straw, if anyone reads this in the future and thinks it is a good idea, I'll volunteer to be the hub of the email dissemination. I still think it's a good idea, but won't fly if there's no intrest. oh well. :D have a good one guys!
-Ryan

E. maculata
29th April 2005, 03:34 PM
I agree with Silent word for word (how the hades did that happen & Did I really say it out loud :eek:)
I reckon on a voluntary basis it is an idea with more than enough merit Ryan.
I mean we're mostly solitary shed dwellers types here it's not like we're a bunch of weepy girly metrosaxuals, is it?........ is it? :rolleyes:

silentC
29th April 2005, 03:46 PM
On a serious note, an acquaintance passed away in his prime a few weeks ago. I found out recently that he was a bit of a woodworker and his wife is considering having a garage sale.

My first thought was that I hoped she wasn't going to flog off a whole lot of good gear for next to nothing, not realising what it was all worth. I offered through a mutual friend to go around and have a look and give her an idea of what it might be worth. I'm sure that my motives were good but I felt a little strange about it because, if the positions were reversed, I would think that there might be an ulterior motive at play. Maybe he wants to come around and try and rip me off by telling me it's worthless crap and offering to give me a good price, or maybe he wants to get all the best bits himself. And then I started to wonder if maybe that was my real agenda, and I was keeping it from myself so that I wouldn't be horrified that I could stoop so low.

I haven't got the truth out yet but I think if I get drunk enough tonight, I might fess up. Anyway, she hasn't taken me up on the offer yet, so if you're listening up there mate, your goodies are still safe. For the moment....

Iain
29th April 2005, 03:55 PM
That happened to an aqaintance some years ago, he was an avid fly fisher like myself and I knew what he had.
I spoke to the widow and told her that I could take care of it for her as there was nothing I wanted but too late, some bastard from a fly fishing club told her that Sage 3 rods were worth sod all but he would give her $50 each for them just to help out, and another $40 for the Hardy fly reels.
I knew who it was and gave him a fair spray but he just couldn't have cared less, this was an opportunity just too good to pass up.
I really felt like decking this mongrel but what would it prove, given that he was a copper too.

silentC
29th April 2005, 04:08 PM
All jokes aside, I reckon that kind of thing is a very low act and I don't know how people can sleep at night having ripped someone off.

Actually, what I would be inclined to say to her if any of it was good gear would be to save it for the grandkids. All his offspring are girls but one has just given birth to a son (I think) and the old man missed it by a matter of days, which is a shame in itself. I know how attached I am to my Grandfather's tools, of which I have but a few.

ryanarcher
29th April 2005, 05:14 PM
Not everyone carks it from old age...



actually no one carks it from old age. everyone however carks it from cardiac arrest. ;)
-Ryan

RETIRED
29th April 2005, 05:16 PM
On a serious note, an acquaintance passed away in his prime a few weeks ago. I found out recently that he was a bit of a woodworker and his wife is considering having a garage sale.

My first thought was that I hoped she wasn't going to flog off a whole lot of good gear for next to nothing, not realising what it was all worth. I offered through a mutual friend to go around and have a look and give her an idea of what it might be worth. I'm sure that my motives were good but I felt a little strange about it because, if the positions were reversed, I would think that there might be an ulterior motive at play. Maybe he wants to come around and try and rip me off by telling me it's worthless crap and offering to give me a good price, or maybe he wants to get all the best bits himself. And then I started to wonder if maybe that was my real agenda, and I was keeping it from myself so that I wouldn't be horrified that I could stoop so low.

I haven't got the truth out yet but I think if I get drunk enough tonight, I might fess up. Anyway, she hasn't taken me up on the offer yet, so if you're listening up there mate, your goodies are still safe. For the moment....
Wasn't going to get into this.

Ryan, I think Neil heard you. ;)

On the subject of checking values of tools. I had a mate (note past tense) that did what Iains mate did and ripped off a recent (at the time) widow. He purchased about $30,000 worth of machinery for about $2000.

I always suggest when asked to put a value on something to get 2 quotes from those that purchase second hand machines.

Saves a lot of grief and you keep friends. :)

Iain
29th April 2005, 05:24 PM
I had a mate (note past tense) that did what Iains mate did
Mr , read carefully, I said I knew who he was, he was not a mate, and I think he lost a few over that incident, actually a couple of years later he got into a bit of financial strife and a Sen Sgt did the same to him, knowing what he had done.

RETIRED
29th April 2005, 05:36 PM
Sorry Iain. I used the term loosely.

jow104
29th April 2005, 05:55 PM
Chaps,

I don't think we need to worry about our tools in the future, they will be redundant. Global warming is coming; no trees; no time to play; the future generation will need to spend all their time foraging for food and wondering who is going to provide their pension. (I must be in a depressed mood this morning :eek: )

Fat Pat
29th April 2005, 06:35 PM
....and with rising sea levels they had better be good swimmers!

Sturdee
29th April 2005, 07:09 PM
So that's why Richard is building his boat. :D :D :D


Peter.

echnidna
29th April 2005, 07:35 PM
I'm sure none us would want our widows ripped off when we finally kark it.
Maybe there is some way the bb members could collectively act to help prevent it

Gumby
29th April 2005, 07:43 PM
....and with rising sea levels they had better be good swimmers!

No good being a swimmer in the UK if the seas rise. The cold will get you whether you can swim or not.........Take note JOW :p

ryanarcher
30th April 2005, 03:04 PM
thanks Neil. ;)
-Ryan

Dan
30th April 2005, 04:18 PM
I'm sure none us would want our widows ripped off when we finally kark it.

Sadly, the widow may not be too worried about it. :(
http://www.ibys.org/bs/

jow104
30th April 2005, 11:25 PM
No good being a swimmer in the UK if the seas rise. The cold will get you whether you can swim or not.........Take note JOW :p


Gumby

Your reply must have bugged me because when I suddenly awoke last night I thought; wait a moment I said there was going to be global warming: therefore the seas should get warmer :D :eek: :eek: :D :mad:

Iain
1st May 2005, 09:08 AM
That means ski-ing would become more popular too with warmer snow :rolleyes: