Tyres

[Rocker]

I have not bought tyres in Australia for about 15 years. Can anyone tell me what a reasonable price per tyre would be for steel-belted tubeless radials for a Camry?

Also I am not sure how long I can continue using my current tyres. They still have about 3 mm depth of tread left on them.

Advice would be appreciated.

Rocker

[Gumby]

I have not bought tyres in Australia for about 15 years.

Rocker

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Geez Rocker, I'm bl**dy glad you weren't following me in the rain when I stopped quickly! :eek: :eek: :eek:

[DarrylF]

I have not bought tyres in Australia for about 15 years.
WOW :)

Put a set of 4 on my better half's Commodore last weekend - Bridgestones, plus a wheel alignment & balance from Bob Jane for $450 or so total. Should be the same for a Camry.

[Rocker]

Gumby,

Surprisingly enough, it is not just because of my Scottish ancestry that I haven't bought tyres here for so long. Until five years ago, I was living in the US. I bought a new car in 2000 when I returned to Australia, and since then have only done a low mileage - about 45,000 km. I think the last time I bought tyres here was about 1990 in Darwin, where you get ripped off for everything.

Rocker

[outback]

I also just put tyres on the Commodore, 'bout $450.00, or a little more, wheel alignment was extra. Also Bridgestones, kinda depends on brand and type etc.

[DanP]

3mm tread depth is ok but is the minimum you want. Look for the wear indicators in the grooves. When you reach them it's time to change.

Dan

[Rocker]

Thanks all for the advice; when you say a set, is that 4 tyres or 5?

Rocker

[outback]

3mm tread depth is ok but is the minimum you want. Look for the wear indicators in the grooves. When you reach them it's time to change.

Dan

OHHH, I thought they were just little bit of extra tread, right at the end, like a kind of bonus.


Rocker, I call a set 4 tyres.

[Kev Y.]

Rocker.. I put a new set of HANKOOK tyres on my camry (sportivo) just before chistmas.. cost me $165.00 fitted a piece

the car came with michelin's as a standard and I got 75,000kms out of them, I hope the HANKOOKs do as well

[Daddles]

What's this 'tyres' business? :confused: I just wrap the Falcon's rims with electrical tape. :D Doesn't seem to affect the handling any and if I turn up the radio, that funny grinding noise only bothers the bloke driving next to me. ;) No tailgating either - don't understand that unless they don't like the sparks. :p The cops don't seem to mind either, and I talk them one of them just about every time I go out. :rolleyes:

Richard

[arose62]

I've consistently found Jax to offer better service, less BS, and they'll match anyone else's prices.

(No personal interest in the company).

My process is to visit www.tirerack.com, look at the reviews etc., and choose a tyre.
Then ring around the local tyre shops, ending with Jax.
Book a time, & take the car in.

Cheers,
Andrew

[Rocker]

Again, thanks for further advice. I am inclined, since I don't do a large mileage, to get middle-of-the-range tyres, even if they don't last for 75,000 km. I shall be lucky to get 50,000 out of my Brigestones.

Rocker

[Iain]

I make a point of avoiding Dunflops and Kuhmo.
Kuhmo's have gone out of round so often and Dunflops were just unpredictable.
I now use Yokohama and get about 50k a set which is not bad considering my beast is a full time 4WD, read additional wear to compensate for superb handling.

[Harry72]

Lucky you havent got tyres like my ST170 focus(my avatar) has got, the last price I heard of was $330 ea!
Continentals contisport II 215/40/17's ZR rated(i thinks), I have to have high rating tyres as the ST is capable of 220kmh+! very nice tyre tho

[echnidna]

That toy car does 220kmh ?? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ;)

[bitingmidge]

Here goes the thread diversion:

The last car "owned" by my wife was speed limited to 250k. Now all the time we owned it, we never hit the limiter... :D :D .

The standard tyres were worth something like $700 each at the time, and were very soft rubber and lasted about half a block.

All the stories about requiring Super dooper high speed tyres or your insurance will be voided are WRONG! I wrote to the insurer, asked them why I needed tyres capable of sustained 200kph driving when at best the speed limits are 110, and was given written assurance that I could use any lesser rating PROVIDED I didn't have an accident as a result of driving the car beyond the rating of the tyre.

Interestingly enough, there is little doubt that if one had an accident that involved those super speeds, one would not have to worry about a claim in the first place, but the insurer would not pay up anyway!

Cheers,

P (Who can't remember if they are V,S or H rated, but runs the lowest of them now too). :D

[Iain]

Obviously not a BMW as they are limited to 255kph :D :D :D

[bitingmidge]

Obviously not a BMW as they are limited to 255kph :D :D :D

I just didn't want to make it seem OBSCENELY fast!! :D :D :D

M????

P (living happily now with a couple of hundred horses less and a car that'd be pushing to make 225!!)
:D :D :D

[Iain]

3 or 5, both are capable :p

[Harry72]

That toy car does 220kmh ?? :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: ;) He he yup, as the name(ST170)implies its got 170bhp, its not a normal Focus... has different motor(duratec 2lt) and 6 speed close ratio box, color flip paint(purple/blue) leather interior.
Has all the wizz bang gadjetry like EBS(applies brakes to inside wheels around sharp corners)4 wheel independant ABS, the brakes are as big as a HSV commodore!
I love it when the SWMBO blows off the V8's, the look on their faces :eek:.

It quite a rare car as there are only 145 of them made for the aussie market... made in a German Ford ST factory.
Seen the new RS Focus yet, what a beast has a 2.5ltr 5cyl 220bhp turbo volvo motor!

[E. maculata]

Harry, you made me grin my nut off, SWMBO just got rid of her tank Henry (EB) at chrissy for a purple/blue mild modded liata. Now the old bug has bitten me again thinking t-28 intercooler and aftermarket chip etc.
Last time I went down this path, we ended up with a legal (first In NSW, mid eighties)full chassised 400+bhp 12A split turbo injected corolla P/Van that cost us over 45K in parts and was capable of out cornering an RGV and I won't even mention 440 times :D
LUV that Focus the grin factor must be brilliant :cool:

[Harry72]

Christ 400bhp in a corolla, yikes!

Yeah the grin factor is pretty good for a standard car, not as fast as the latest gen V8's in a straight line... gives the older ones hell tho!

I actualy sold my V8 and brought the ST, went from a Falcon BA 5.4 V8 auto ute in acid rush gold to a focus 2lt 4cyl C/R 6speed 2dr hatch in imperial blue... one extreme to the other!
Dam lost $20 in 8 months on the ute... lost $12k on the trade in and plus all the mods that I did to it, large chrome alloys, sports roll bar, dumped to the weeds suspension with air bags in the rear so it still could carry a load, full dual SS zorst etc etc. See if I can dig up a pic of the old girl..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v725/ST170ish/0edc7abb.jpg

[Fat Pat]

Un-hi-jack time thanks folks.....

Rocker Fella, you get what you pay for in tyre talk.

GENERALLY, the more expensive - the stickier, the better grip, better wet weather handling etc etc.....UNFORTUNATELY, more grip does equal greater wear, so the best hoops (trade talk for tyres) need to be replaced pretty often. It all depends on what sort of driving you do.

Personally, I prefer do go for grip and handling (read SAFETY) over longevity and value for money, but that is just my silly notions of wishing to protect my beloved and baby!

If you have this strange idea about wanting to get a "really cheap set of tyres" go-ahead, but please please please let me know when you come to Perth so I can keep off the roads. $80-$100 for a Camry/Falcon/Commodore are frankly dangerous in all but dry and clean conditions.... but they last REALLY WELL.

Having said that, you can go really silly in the prices paid for them as well, so there must be a compromise.

My recommendation is a Dunlop Product called FM-901. V rated and fairly sticky. It will wear if you give it some stick, but your profile seems to indicate a more sedate driving style is the go, especially driving a Camry! 50-60K should be a good range with them, and they stick like shyte to a blanket in the wet!

Putting it into perspective though, try getting a "cheap" tyre for a motorbike. 1 rear for my CBR1000 comes in about $350 and lasts mayber 15,000 K's.

Bugger!

[DanP]

Lets face facts. Were not talking about driving V8 supercars here. I have a little bit of experience in hard driving and REALLY, if you drive appropriate to conditions, you won't have trouble, no matter what rubber you're on. My back tyres are over 100,000 k's and I've never had trouble with them in the wet. AND, for their size they were one of the cheaper tyres.

The rubber you choose for a motorbike is very important. For a car, it's not really an issue for average road and driving conditions.

[ozwinner]

Obviously not a BMW as they are limited to 255kph :D :D :D
Its a Roller I tell ya, a 9 litre Roller.

Al :D

[ozwinner]

If you have this strange idea about wanting to get a "really cheap set of tyres" go-ahead, but please please please let me know when you come to Perth so I can keep off the roads. $80-$100 for a Camry/Falcon/Commodore are frankly dangerous in all but dry and clean conditions.... but they last REALLY WELL.


Rubbish!! :mad:
For a start the goverment wouldnt allow such crap tyres to be fitted to the average Aussie family cars.
If they did, then the tyre manufactures would be up for huge costs in the courts.
What a load of bollacks.

Al :mad:

[Kris.Parker1]

Mate I think you should be looking at paying between $300 and $400 for a set of five including fittig, wheel alignment and balance.

My two cents

Cheers

Kris

[Iain]

Its a Roller I tell ya, a 9 litre Roller.

Al :D
TRivia time, the BMW M5 can achieve 250kph in 5th gear and the speed limiting device only allows another 5kph in 6th, still, it would be a character building experience coming down Brown Mountain :D :D :D

[echnidna]

How many cubic metres of timber can it carry at 250 kph

[Daddles]

How many cubic metres of timber can it carry at 250 kph

Depends on how high the cliff is :D

Richard

[Cliff Rogers]

Road conditions & driving style play a big part...

Tell the man at the tyre place HOW & WHERE you drive & ask him for a price & then go & ask another tyre place, if the tell you different things, ask a few more tyre places until you work out who you trust.

People can't be experts at everything but most of them can work out when they are being BS'd.

Becoming a tyre expert overnight is not going to happen, becoming an ANYthing expert overnight is not going to happen.

If you do you homework on the people selling the tyre & find one you trust, go with what he/she says BUT you have to tell them the truth about how & where you drive.

We get about about 40, to 45,000 Kms out out of a set of 4 'cos we do a lot of windy roads that are very often wet & we drive like there is no tomorrow & we are always late. :D

Some tyres stick to the road better than others, the man at the shop will tell you if you ask him. The first set of tyres we had on our Rodeo only lasted about 41,000 Kms & they were HOPELESS at sticking, it was like rollerskates on marbles on frozen glass. :eek: . We told the man at the tyre shop & he put us onto a set of Goodridgch (?) 693s & they stuck to the road like glue, cornered great & we got 45,000Kms out of them. The Rodeo needed new tyres but it only has 6 months to go on the current lease & we reckon we'll ditch it & move one. We will do hardly any true 'dirt' work in that time & it will mostly run up & down the range in the wet so he put me onto a much cheaper but softer set of tyres that 'look' real flash. I got them last week & took it up & down the range, it's MUCH quieter to ride in, sticks to the road like glue BUT, I reckon they under-steer HEAPS. I'll get used to them but even though they are quieter, they don't perform like the 693s did, the price shows up int the performance.

Now, back to the hijack, my wife's car is a Corolla P/van, was a station wagon & we modified it for '3 letter word' reasons.
I could not imagine how on earth you would even manage to get the 440BHP onto the ground.... :eek:
The damned thing is that light that it will accelerate form 60 to 140 in the length of one of our silly hillside overtaking lanes. (The Rodeo would only manage 60 to 100 in the same distance.)
If it have 440BHP, I would imagine it could still go from 60 to 140 in the same distance, & leave 3 black marks as well. (front brakes on & I don't think you can get a limo for a Corolla :D )

Struth, 440BHP in a Corolla P/van, :rolleyes: Farrr-k!

25 years ago I had an EH station wagon with a 186 X2 with twin strombergs (from a HR) in it & that had about 83BHP :cool:

[Harry72]

One tyre I can vouch for... dont ever buy a Nangkang they are crap, thats what the place that I brought the wheels from put on my old ute. It would slide out under power so easy, you could smoke'm in 1st 2nd 3rd without touching the brakes and the ute only had 225hp at the rear wheels!(dyno tested)

Hey Bob, wana do 250kmh carrying a cube of wood... buy a Typhoon or SuperPursuit falcon ute!

[DanP]

Got 10,000 K's (just) out of the tyres on the 'SS' at work. :rolleyes::D

[Fat Pat]

Rubbish!! :mad:
For a start the goverment wouldnt allow such crap tyres to be fitted to the average Aussie family cars.
If they did, then the tyre manufactures would be up for huge costs in the courts.
What a load of bollacks.

Al :mad:
Ozzie, sorry, but you're wrong. The Govt. allows retreads (for cars - truck tyres are a different story), and they are woefully inadequate (but cheap). Maybe adequate at 80 kph, but they regularly fall apart at 100+. And in WA we are ALLOWED to go 100+. Tyre manufactures are covered because the Govt. allows it!

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

DanP - Your tyres may last 100,000 KM, but you can bet they are as hard as nails, and when push come to shove (i.e. a hard braking moment/accident) if all else is the same, YOUR tyres will be the ones to lock up and attempt to occupy the same time/space co-ordinates as mine. Tyres are as important for a car as a bike. The idea that cheaper is better is crazy - pure and simple! How much do you value you pelvis/thighbone/sternum? Accidents can break them, and then where will you be? I'm not advocating spending $2000 a hoop, and believe me, you can...and more, but decent tyres are far more important than an upgrade on a TV or a better lawn-mower.

Glib comments about tyres lasting 100,000 KM are unhelpful in the extreme, because they are most definitely inadequate for the job.

[numbat]

Glib comments about tyres lasting 100,000 KM are unhelpful in the extreme, because they are most definitely inadequate for the job. I think you will find he said 10 not 100 thousand km. On his govt supplied patrol car :).

Cheers

[E. maculata]

Now, back to the hijack, my wife's car is a Corolla P/van, was a station wagon & we modified it for '3 letter word' reasons.
I could not imagine how on earth you would even manage to get the 440BHP onto the ground.... :eek:
The damned thing is that light that it will accelerate form 60 to 140 in the length of one of our silly hillside overtaking lanes. (The Rodeo would only manage 60 to 100 in the same distance.)
If it have 440BHP, I would imagine it could still go from 60 to 140 in the same distance, & leave 3 black marks as well. (front brakes on & I don't think you can get a limo for a Corolla :D )

Struth, 440BHP in a Corolla P/van, :rolleyes: Farrr-k!


Here’s the easy way to a 11.2 sec Qcar.
Take 1 1979 corolla (doesn’t matter which body)
Gut completely, every thing and I mean the lot, if its got bolts its comes off, ifs its just got a few spotwelds the get drilled and it comes off, Pay RTA approved engineer to visit car and tell him whats you’re doing get tacit approval ie: registered hill climber with some 440 yard (1/4 mile) work for fun .
Now we can start
mount on 2 engine stands (1 at back 1 at front through bumper mounts) so it’s a flipover. Get wife and Father in law to do body work, bare metal, of course burn/sandblast all factory deadner out. Cut most of firewall and trans tunnel out, weld in 1975-1976 cortina section, Built chassis out of 3x2 RHS to front engine mount back to rear spring hangers, bolt on, take off redo, bolt on swear repeat ably cos you forgot mounts take off do again. 8 months later finally done chassis with new radiator panel sloping back at 12.5° for Massive Showa alumunium radiator & Nissan truck intercooler.
I’ll skip a bit here boring fiddly stuff about engine gearbox position, suffice to say the close ratio supra box lever was between front seats and the weight distribution was 55% front/45 rear and ther was still lotsa room at the front of bay despite turbo & plumbing.
Front brakes 13.25” discs with volvo sliding callipers, mounted to the bottom of RA-28 struts with Koni inserts with Cut down LJ springs above strut tower braces in plain steel with ball ends for adjustment, rear springs from Cressida (softish) reset with coilovers on celica diff housing, with TRD clutched center at around 4.22:1.

Rebuild last of the 12A motors to a blueprint, slightly enlarge ports, mount modified t-3 air research turbo through 3” system 1 large muffler as turbos are sound bafflers themselves, injectors with large butterfly air injector system Wolf 3D controller (hated that thing)light steel flywheel to a modified Hybrid Chev pressure plate with ceramic “button Clutch, hydraulic system donated by holden, thru to modified supra box 100mm tailshaft

Heaps and Heaps more fiddly stuff than that,like the first time I drove it it was an uncontrollable “dog” so we had to redo drive train mounts cause the harmonics started at 220 and scared me silly.

When we finished it it had a roll centre 150mm off the ground, weighed 1100 kg fully tanked, half caged, wife used to drive it to supermarket so it was sorta civilised, and the reigning QLD sportscar champ at the time (a Tech advisor and turbo fixerupperer) reckoned it was the best handling street car he’d ever driven, made me look real good as a driver.

Had kids, needed bigger house so sold it to a mate who always wanted it since I blew his V8 UC and his ZXR away on the hills, he bodgied some stuff up, that wasn’t on engineers report got yellow stickered on his way to competing at the summernats. Got the Sh!ts and sold it in parts to the rally guy/hill climb guys as far as I know

[jow104]

How much tread is on a tyre when new in OZ?

Nobody gets mileage in the UK like what you're talking about. I know the US also get high mileage out of their rubbers.

[aussiecolector]

3mm. Thats only half worn out. 1.5mm is legal. I personaly like to see a bit of steel showing. Wouldnt touch retreads on radials, ok for rags though.

[DanP]

Pat,

As I have previously stated. I have done 100,000+ Kms (yes, one hundred thousand plus) on those tyres and never have I been in a situation caused by the 'inadequate' tyres. I have done some hard driving in that time, in that car and on those tyres, including when I had them on the front as well. I stand by my previous comments and backed them up with the statement that I have a bit of experience in hard driving.

All you have done is refute these statements and have yet to state your position in regard to where you get your knowledge. If you have experience in this area, say what it is. Don't just hang shyte on what other people say.

Dan

[Daddles]

Arrr, I don't know what youse blokes are talkin' about. The rims haven't touched the ground on my MG in ages so the tyres aren't worn out yet :D

Richard
One glass of wine, I take things seriously
two glasses of wine, there's no way I'll take things seriously
three glasses of wine and I can't even spell whateverthatwordwasthatIwasthinkingaboutbutcan'tspellcozImpissed

[ozwinner]

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

.
If you going to pick on my spelling, maybe you can go fryyourself..
Seriously.....

Al :D

[echnidna]

I go along with Al, this is a woodies forum not a spelling forum so picking on sum one for there spelling is not productive

[bitingmidge]

If you're going to harangue, perhaps you can spell better?

B. E. T. T. E. R.

Is there some sort of prize for the first correct entry??

P(Pancakes be blowed, this is lemon-harangue pie!)
:D :D :D

[echnidna]

B. E. T. T. E. R.

Is there some sort of prize for the first correct entry??

P(Pancakes be blowed, this is lemon-harangue pie!)
:D :D :D

yer got it wrong midge you spelt BETTER , read the question again;

the correct answer is b.e.t.t.e.r. :D :D

[beejay1]

If you going to pick on my spelling, maybe you can go ****yourself..
Seriously.....

Al :D
Ahhh dear Al, your eloquence,tact and rapier like retort as always only surpassed by your devilish good looks. http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gifhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon10.gif

Am I allowed to give you a greenie for that one you big cuddly hi-jackerhttp://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com.au/images/icons/icon7.gif
beejay1

http://community.webshots.com/user/eunos9

[bitingmidge]

yer got it wrong midge you spelt BETTER , read the question again;

the correct answer is b.e.t.t.e.r. :D :D
b.u.g.g.e.r.

P

[echnidna]

it don't matter midge. :)

I got it wrong too :eek:

I said b.e.t.t.e.r.:)

and the correct answer really is b.e.t.t.e.r. :D :D :D :D :D

[Cliff Rogers]

Got 10,000 K's (just) out of the tyres on the 'SS' at work. :rolleyes::D
&


..... I have done 100,000+ Kms .... I have done some hard driving in that time, in that car and on those tyres,.....
Now let me see.... :rolleyes: if you got 100,000+Kms out of tryes that you did 'some hard diving' on & '(just) 10,000K's out of the ones on the 'SS' at work'.... ;)

1. How hard were you diving the ''SS' at work'? :confused:
2. How crap are(were) the tyres fitted to the ''SS' at work'? :confused:
3. Did the boss know that you took the ''SS at work' to the burnt out comp at the speedway on Saturday night? :D

I guess you don't have an 'SS' at home. :p

[Iain]

three glasses of wine and I can't even spell whateverthatwordwasthatIwasthinkingaboutbutcan'tspellcozImpissed
Obviously you hadn't had a single glass as you took the trouble to use upper case I's :D :D :D :D
Cliff, I suspect the vehicle in question is a TMU hotrod, they frequently follow behind me when I'm towing so no one oncoming can see them.

[Daddles]

Obviously you hadn't had a single glass as you took the trouble to use upper case I's :D :D :D :D


Sorry, but using a lower case i when the upper case I is called for is an anathma to one of my profession and thus, even as they lower me into the grave, I will still be hammering away on a keyboard and using upper case Is where appropriate :D

Cheers
Richard

[DanP]

I've done some hard driving in my car. I've done some rediculous driving in the work car. :rolleyes: 18" Rims on the SS at work and lots of trying to catch up to people doing 130 kmh when you're sitting still and they've got a head start of half a k.

[Daddles]

Admit it Dan. You only became a cop because you're a hoon and got sick of being booked :D :D

Richard

[DanP]

I'm not saying nuthing. But I've only got six points left.

Dan

[Termite]

I'm not saying nuthing. But I've only got six points left.

Dan
So who's been a naughty boy then :p

[TassieKiwi]

IMHO the best saloon tyres are made by Firestone (NZ) and are called 'Firehawk 960' I think. I put'em on the Commodore and they made the Bridgestones seem like forklift tyres. About $450 for the set.

[DanP]

So who's been a naughty boy then :p

Not that naughty. Six seperate fines, all less than 7 k's over. Don't get me started on greed cameras.

Dan

[Daddles]

I knew a Baptist minister years ago. Quiet, old fashioned sort of guy. Well, one day he decided to buy a motorbike because he did a lot of travelling around the city visiting parishioners. He bought a sensible little 250. Got his licence. Served his time on his P's. Then bought a CX500. Then Kawakasaki brought out the GPZ900R. He bought one :eek: Six months later, he's in court, explaining to the magistrate that the bike was now his only form of transport and if they take his licence away he won't be able to do his pastoral duties. The magistrate gave him one point back and a stern talking to. That was BEFORE speed cameras. He sort of slowed down after that ...

His missus was your classic, lace collared, quietly traditional minister's wife. She wrote off a pair of boots one night coming back from Sydney. Fell asleep on the pillion seat, her foot slipped off the footpeg and rested on the muffler while they crossed the Hay Plain ... at 180 km/hr :eek:

But, his biggest hassle was visiting the parishoners. Because he was on the bike all the time, he bought a set of leathers. But everytime he visited someone, they gave him a cup of tea and biscuits. Soon he'd put on so much weight that the leather's only juuusssstttt fit ... sort of.

For some reason, the Reverend "what his name was" was known universally as Revs "what his name was".

Cheers
Richard

[ozwinner]

I've done some hard driving in my car. I've done some rediculous driving in the work car. :rolleyes: 18" Rims on the SS at work and lots of trying to catch up to people doing 130 kmh when you're sitting still and they've got a head start of half a k.
Dan, you need to borrow me yoot, does it easy, not that Ive tried it of course because that is against the law. :rolleyes: ;) :D

Al :o

[DanP]

I've seen your yoot. It's a byooty. ;) I'll keep the SS though. I'm not paying for the tyres :D

[jow104]

To DANP,

You didnt't catch me I did 9000kms @ 120k's per hour back earlier this year :D :D :D

The only time a cop pointed his radar gun at us the wife was driving, and she has a job to reach the accelerator pedal and we were hardly moving :D

[Fat Pat]

If you going to pick on my spelling, maybe you can go fryyourself..
Seriously.....

Al :D
....nice.....

DANP - My Experience? 20 odd years of driving, maybe 10 mucking around on the club (that's Driving NOT Night) scene. Several "advanced" driving courses (interpret as you will) a racing driving course, a basic - but very educational - road skid control course (or how to do better than ABS), plus the odd bit of "fanging around". Oh yeah, and about 700,000 km's of mixed city/highway work in the last 8-10 years. Not to mention a fair bit of motorcycle commuting (which is another reason why I am passionate about CAR tyres)

Oh yeah, and I managed to get myself invited onto (and participated in) two days of a Police Driver Training Week...but that's a long story.

Does this make me an "expert"? Well, no. But I believe that the thread started by asking for some advice about tyres, and a variety of members added their bit. The shyte started being thrown by that miserable old Ozwinner.

Whatever. I find it most surprising that a (suspected) police officer is coming over all proud about how long his tyres last, when he should be advocating everybody buying decent rubber to ensure accident avoidance! Just because a set of car is only going to be doing the speed limit doesn't mean that it won't benefit from better rubber.

Be that as it may, the tyres I recommended to 'Ol Rocker are only about $200 each, but in my (and my car clubs') experience they are about the best combination of value and performance under $500 each!

BTW, if you want a recommendation in the over $500 bracket, you can't go past Michelin Pilot SX's ... stick like the proverbial to the cloth, but you'll be lucky to get 20,000 K's out of a set.

On a lighter note, I'd like to shake the hand of Ozwinners email stalker, at least something gets him all steamed-up (I reckon his car has re-treads, which is why my post got him all riled up!)

[RETIRED]

Simmer down boys.

[ozwinner]

Very good. :p

But havent you got some, "hoops" (trade talk for tyres) to go and fit.

Your post got me "all riled up" ( whats a riled??) because you come across as a knob head.
But I suppose you already know that??

Hoops!! what a cockhead!!!!!...................

Al :confused:

Sorry ..
I saw your post after I posted mine...

[DanP]

And again I state that we are not talking about race car driving and if you drive according to conditions you will have no trouble on $80 Kmart 'hoops' :rolleyes:

The fact that you call my honesty into question shows you for the tosser that you are. See the pic if you need proof of my occupation.

When was the last time you heard of an accident and the attributed cause was poor quality tyres? In ten years of policing, I have never. And you could probably say that I've investigated a few. In the time that I've been in the country(2 years), I have been involved in the investigation of about 50 serious and fatal accidents and again, you couldn't say in any of them that poor quality tyres was even a contributing factor.

BTW I have seen and met plenty of 'Club Drivers' who can't drive for spit. This is not a comment on your driving ability but just a general observation. OH, and I've participated in an accumulated four weeks of police driver training.

Dan

[Daddles]

See the pic if you need proof of my occupation.

Dan

Are those dresses in the background? :eek:

Richard

[boban]

Not that naughty. Six seperate fines, all less than 7 k's over. Don't get me started on greed cameras.

Dan
It figures that it was a camera. When I first read that you only had 6 points left I was wondering when you guys started booking one another. I know it does happen (the Seargent in Albury) but not often I thought.

They will have to modify those camera so that they can x-ray the car to see your badge...

[journeyman Mick]

Are those dresses in the background? :eek:

Richard

Dan's obviously in touch with his feminine side! :D

Mick

[Christopha]

DanP is famous!!! They are Village People costumes!!! Now THAT explains a lot........... :rolleyes:

[Iain]

And again I state that we are not talking about race car driving and if you drive according to conditions you will have no trouble on $80 Kmart 'hoops' :rolleyes:

The fact that you call my honesty into question shows you for the tosser that you are. See the pic if you need proof of my occupation.

When was the last time you heard of an accident and the attributed cause was poor quality tyres? In ten years of policing, I have never. And you could probably say that I've investigated a few. In the time that I've been in the country(2 years), I have been involved in the investigation of about 50 serious and fatal accidents and again, you couldn't say in any of them that poor quality tyres was even a contributing factor.

BTW I have seen and met plenty of 'Club Drivers' who can't drive for spit. This is not a comment on your driving ability but just a general observation. OH, and I've participated in an accumulated four weeks of police driver training.

Dan
Not to mention road surface problems which are documented, regardless of tyres fitted opn some of these surfaces you simply do not get traction.
I recall a job I did with the TAc where some poor woman just lost control of her car while driving in a straight line.
VicRoads have a machine which runs over the roads from time to time and measures surface friction, have no idea how it works, this stretch of road was identified (Burwood Hwy, Westbound of Knox City on the South side) and as a consequence charges against the driver were dropped.
I might add that this stretch of road looks perfect and that is about where it ends.
This was about four years ago and I still think the road has the same surface.

[ozwinner]

Not to mention road surface problems which are documented, regardless of tyres fitted opn some of these surfaces you simply do not get traction.
I recall a job I did with the TAc where some poor woman just lost control of her car while driving in a straight line.
VicRoads have a machine which runs over the roads from time to time and measures surface friction, have no idea how it works, this stretch of road was identified (Burwood Hwy, Westbound of Knox City on the South side) and as a consequence charges against the driver were dropped.
I might add that this stretch of road looks perfect and that is about where it ends.
This was about four years ago and I still think the road has the same surface.
Theres a stretch of road just out of Whittlesea, everytime it rains theres an accident.
There was one today, its ironic because its right outside the cemertry.
This time a car was wrapped around the bus shelter.

Al :(

[Fat Pat]

Very good. :p

But havent you got some, "hoops" (trade talk for tyres) to go and fit.

Your post got me "all riled up" ( whats a riled??) because you come across as a knob head.
But I suppose you already know that??

Hoops!! what a cockhead!!!!!...................

Al :confused:

Sorry ..
I saw your post after I posted mine...

...once again, ....... nice.


I see no need to respond to you!


DanP. I never advocated racing cars or driving like that all the time. You asked for my experience, and I gave you it.

I responded regarding the idea that cheaper is better, and a pair of $80 K-Mart specials won't cut the mustard compared with a slightly more expensive set ... hence my statment " ...Just because a car is only going to be doing the speed limit doesn't mean that it won't benefit from better rubber .." I have met a couple of coppers who can't drive very well, but what does that prove? That I can P*SS as high as you???

I don't recall ACTUALLY calling your honesty into question. Maybe you have something to fear from the corruption enquiry in Victoria???? Perhaps a guilty conscience?

Once again I'll restate my amazement that a serving policeman would even countenance the idea of cheap tyres for general conditions! Two mates and a brother-in-law (all long term (10+ yrs) serving officers in WA) had a gander at your post and shook their heads in amazement.

All personally directed comments have come from a couple of "Sad B**stards" on this site, not from me.

Wallow in your own (less sticky tyred) misery, the weather is too nice for me to be like that.

Rocker, as before, if you want a decent tyre that will "most likely last
40-50,000 KM" and be safer than average in all road conditions, go for the Dunlop FM901's. They're great. I have even convinced my old man to get a set, and he is a tight old git.

Have a nice day

[bitingmidge]

Hmmmm... I just came close to flicking a red dot!

P :eek:

[Daddles]

In a previous incarnation, I was a surveyor. There's a stretch of freeway just outside of Hahndorf where, every time it rains, there's a bingle. So they sent me up there to do a survey to see if we could find out what was happening. Sure enough, half way along this stretch, the camber swaps sides and with a bit of rain, you get a very shallow, very wide river running across the road. Instant explanation for the prangs. That was ten years ago - they still haven't touched it.

Cheers
Richard

[ozwinner]

Hmmmm... I just came close to flicking a red dot!

P :eek:
So what stopped you??
Wasnt your expensive 'oops??


Al :confused:

[DanP]

DanP. I never advocated racing cars or driving like that all the time. You asked for my experience, and I gave you it.

If you care to go back and read my first reply to you, you will see that I was talking about V8 supercars in that post.


I responded regarding the idea that cheaper is better, and a pair of $80 K-Mart specials won't cut the mustard compared with a slightly more expensive set ... hence my statment " ...Just because a car is only going to be doing the speed limit doesn't mean that it won't benefit from better rubber .."

Again, go back through my posts. I never said cheaper is better. I said that there is no need to spend a fortune for everyday driving. Any car would benefit from having $500 per tyre on it but it's not required for avereage driving.


I have met a couple of coppers who can't drive very well, but what does that prove? That I can P*SS as high as you???

I've met a heap of coppers who can't drive to save themselves as well. But if it doesn't prove anything why do you feel the need to mention it. My statement regarding club drivers was intended to say that any wanker can join a club.


I don't recall ACTUALLY calling your honesty into question. Maybe you have something to fear from the corruption enquiry in Victoria???? Perhaps a guilty conscience?

That's like "I did not have sexual relations with that woman" You're playing with words. If you weren't questioning my honesty you wouldn't have put in the (suspected) bit.


Two mates and a brother-in-law (all long term (10+ yrs) serving officers in WA) had a gander at your post and shook their heads in amazement.

Who's p155ing higher now.

Dan

PS I don't plan on entering into any further discussion in relation to this matter. It's obvious that you have your opinion and I have mine. I won't sway you and you won't sway me. So be it.

[bitingmidge]

So what stopped you??
Wasnt your expensive 'oops??

No, I have naturally curly hair.

P (nice guy, nice car..... really nice treads )
:D :D :D

[Daddles]

I was having a chat with my MG today. It mentioned something about A7008 tyres. Super sticky. It even mentioned poo and a blanket but I missed the connection. It appears that I am far too mild a driver for my Little Red Rollerskate, and she complained that I don't wash her anywhere near often enough. She even had the cheek to complain that I have NEVER entered her in a motokana despite doing so with all my other MGs (and having a dramatically lacklustre reputation therein).

She was mollified however, when I pointed out that she was the inspiration for the sarcastic MG that features in my novel, Footsteps In My Mind, even if she did point out that she is NOT sarcastic. I chose not to point out that while she is not sarcastic, she is becomming a nag.

Cheers
Richard

[Iain]

MMmmmmmm, sounds a bit like Noddy :D :D :D :D
Having said that, there are also a few golliwogs, Big Ears etc around too :D :D :D