View Full Version : So, this Sunday forum outage....
jchappo
10th September 2012, 07:35 PM
CTRL-0 should reset it. If you still have a problem then re-post please but it sounds like you zoomed in too far.
No, I haven't zoomed in too far; I have zoomed in to a level that is comfortable for me. The old version displayed perfectly at this zoom setting.
Another forum I am on had the same problem when they upgraded to vbulletin 4.2. However, I was able to overcome the problem by changing the skin to vB4 default style, which at the moment is not an option here.
Anyway, as I said, a minor problem.:)
Groggy
10th September 2012, 07:37 PM
I've collected the issues into a page where you can see the status of each one. Obviously there will be some lag in the updates between the guys fix things and I can update the site but the best I can do for now.
Clicking on the hyperlinks will take you to the post where the issue was raised.
STATUS PAGE (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm)
ian
10th September 2012, 07:47 PM
Couple of things for members to note, please....
1. The forums need to be re-indexed, this will take a long time due to all the posts (1.5 million), this should cure a few problems, E.g. searching, settings etc I can be patient
2. The Administrators are flat knacker at the moment trying to smooth things over so please try to only comment on stuff that appears to be broken. Understand. Good luck
3. The colours we know about.
4. The colours we know about.
5. Performance will be slower until the indexing is done. Understand
6. Pictures. The admins are working on tracking this one down and hope to have it sorted today. Please ...
7. Some of the forums are still being sorted out e.g. Market Place.
8. I recommend that you do not tinker with any profile settings until the forums are stable. It is easier to fix one problem for everyone with the same settings.
9. I have merged three threads into one, please do not create new upgrade problem threads all over the place on the forums.
10. iSpy is not available, use the New Posts feature for now. If we find a better way we will let you know.
11. Did I mention we know about the colours? :D Message received
12. Please have patience, all will be fixed in good time.
Just found out
Previously if you did Reply with Quote, you could comment within the quote box and NOT include any text outside the quote box
Now need to also place some text outside the quote box
Just letting you know, hopefully it's intentional
crowie
10th September 2012, 07:56 PM
Third try to reply with a quick question.
Is there a setting on the new website which allows me to darken or bold the postings as I'm finding it very difficult to read them [even with good lighting & specs on].
Appeciate the assistance, thank you. Cheers, crowie
Cliff Rogers
10th September 2012, 09:02 PM
(Sung) "Memries, Like the corners of my mind ... Misty water-colored memories ... Of the way we were"
232116
Pssst. Stick with XP :)
Paul.
You need to empty yer PM box Paul, it is nearly full. :D
FenceFurniture
10th September 2012, 09:10 PM
You need to empty yer PM box Paul, it is nearly full. :D
And the only tabs he's got open are to do with work benches.
Acco
10th September 2012, 09:15 PM
Not a major issue but on the previous bulletin board, I had it set so that attachments opened in a new tab but now they open in the current window.
Had a look through Settings/User CP but couldn't see anywhere to change this, pretty sure you could set this on the old bulletin board.
Groggy
10th September 2012, 09:42 PM
Third try to reply with a quick question.
Is there a setting on the new website which allows me to darken or bold the postings as I'm finding it very difficult to read them [even with good lighting & specs on].
Appeciate the assistance, thank you. Cheers, crowieI don't think so. Colours have already been identified as an issue.
Ueee
10th September 2012, 09:45 PM
Not sure if this has been covered, and it may just be a problem with the search engine, but i have just noticed when i click on new posts i am getting all new posts, including in subforums that i have opted not to get new posts listed from.
Acco
10th September 2012, 09:55 PM
Not a major issue but on the previous bulletin board, I had it set so that attachments opened in a new tab but now they open in the current window.
Had a look through Settings/User CP but couldn't see anywhere to change this, pretty sure you could set this on the old bulletin board.
Just looked into this a bit more, on my iPad, attachments previously opened in new tabs but now open in the same tab/window, and I've just tried it on my laptop and attachments open in new tabs as they did prior to the upgrade. :think:Hmm I think I'll see if the settings on my iPad have changed or need to be reset.
Also tried doing this post via my laptop (Vista 32 bits/IE 9) and the browser just freezes when I hit reply but works ok when I use iPad :shrug: has happened a few times today.
A Duke
10th September 2012, 09:59 PM
Not a major issue but on the previous bulletin board, I had it set so that attachments opened in a new tab but now they open in the current window.
Had a look through Settings/User CP but couldn't see anywhere to change this, pretty sure you could set this on the old bulletin board.
Hi,
I'm finding some do and some don't and I can't see why.
Regards
Groggy
10th September 2012, 10:02 PM
Not sure if this has been covered, and it may just be a problem with the search engine, but i have just noticed when i click on new posts i am getting all new posts, including in subforums that i have opted not to get new posts listed from.Issue has been logged. It may be the filter only works with iSpy, we'll have to wait for admin to clarify when they can.
Acco
10th September 2012, 10:05 PM
Hi,
I'm finding some do and some don't and I can't see why.
Regards
Just checked that Hugh and you're right, might have something to do with the indexing, think I'll wait till that has been completed and see if it clears up.
Evanism
10th September 2012, 10:15 PM
If its of any concequence, I am a programmer. PHP, C, C++, Java.. database expert and internet guru. I'm one of the very originals, been doing it for 19 years.
If you need help, ask away.
Moderator note: Noted, thank you
TTIT
10th September 2012, 10:31 PM
................. It may be the filter only works with iSpy, ....................Speaking of which, where on earth is it now :?
rohanbeckett
10th September 2012, 10:40 PM
A feature I used, to avoid being overwhelmed by all the forums, was the 'hide forum' feature.
(as mentioned here: http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/forum-homepage-filtering-104530/)
This allowed me to have a main forum page that excluded sections I have no interest in.
Regarding colours.. maybe a good idea is to find a bunch of free vbulletin themes, and just let people pick their own?
As much as I love timber... the old woodgrain theme was very hard on the eyes! :D
I'm liking these current colours a lot more.. (although I understand people needing more contrast with read/unread colours!)
new editor is nice.. could do with a few more/newer smileys!
RB
rwbuild
10th September 2012, 11:29 PM
Must admit that I did like the old format but progress marches relentlessly onward.
Color of new posts / threads hard to read and differentiate read and unread posts. Suggest Bold black for unread and defaulting to blue after reading when returning back to list of new messages/posts
For those of us who are interested in various topics, as you read through the various posts, if there is to be no change in color then can we have the dotted outline of the last post read so we know where we are up to as in the previous format
Have lost my preferences for the topics I'm interested in, now getting all messages again
As mentioned by others, need the choice of color schemes ( not a priority until other issues addressed )
Like anything new, takes time to tweak it and get used to it :D
Sturdee
10th September 2012, 11:33 PM
Over the years that I've been a member I've lived through a number of forum upgrades and this one is no different. Whilst Neill, Steve and his team are working flat out getting it done lots of members whinge and whine about minor inconsequential things like layout, colour etc.
During the immediate days of changeover by all means report broken bits or problems but let them get on with their work for soon enough the cosmetic changes can be looked at.
For goodness give the guys a break for they are doing it for us.
Peter.
Groggy
10th September 2012, 11:43 PM
A feature I used, to avoid being overwhelmed by all the forums, was the 'hide forum' feature.
(as mentioned here: http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/forum-homepage-filtering-104530/)
This allowed me to have a main forum page that excluded sections I have no interest in.I believe that was part of iSpy scripts which are no longer with us. It may take a while to find an alternative.
Regarding colours.. maybe a good idea is to find a bunch of free vbulletin themes, and just let people pick their own?
As much as I love timber... the old woodgrain theme was very hard on the eyes! :D
I'm liking these current colours a lot more.. (although I understand people needing more contrast with read/unread colours!)Colours are not as simple as they appear and the Admins will need to do it when they get some spare time.
new editor is nice.. could do with a few more/newer smileys!
RBMaybe later when things are under control. We have had some spammers slip in and a few other pressing issues so once things settle - maybe!
FenceFurniture
10th September 2012, 11:51 PM
Over the years that I've been a member I've lived through a number of forum upgrades and this one is no different. Whilst Neill, Steve and his team are working flat out getting it done lots of members whinge and whine about minor inconsequential things like layout, colour etc.
During the immediate days of changeover by all means report broken bits or problems but let them get on with their work for soon enough the cosmetic changes can be looked at.
For goodness give the guys a break for they are doing it for us.
Peter.
+1. Gotta get over it.
Chrism3
10th September 2012, 11:52 PM
To Ueee and , judging from your reply to my posting, you seem to have a different belief than Neil about the colours being logged to be fixed. My angst is about basic readability, not just a cosmetic thing. If I can't read things I am not in a good position to contribute to the site as I am used to. I applaud the effort that goes into this website, and recognise that functional upgrades will be of benefit. But ignoring well documented knowledge about human visual acuity is unhelpful.
Over and out.
Groggy
10th September 2012, 11:52 PM
Couple of things for members to note, please....
1. The forums need to be re-indexed, this will take a long time due to all the posts (1.5 million), this should cure a few problems, E.g. searching, settings etc Hopefully it will be finished tomorrow.
2. The Administrators are flat knacker at the moment trying to smooth things over so please try to only comment on stuff that appears to be broken.
3. The colours we know about.
4. The colours we know about.
5. Performance will be slower until the indexing is done.
6. Pictures. The admins are working on tracking this one down and hope to have it sorted asap.
7. Some of the forums are still being sorted out e.g. Market Place.
8. I recommend that you do not tinker with your profile settings until the forums are stable. It is easier to fix one problem for everyone with the same settings.
9. I have merged four threads into one, please do not create new upgrade problem threads all over the place on the forums.
10. iSpy is not available, use Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums (http://www.woodworkforums.com/activity.php) instead (save it to your favourites).
11. Did I mention we know about the colours? :D
12. Please have patience, all will be fixed in good time.
13. THE PROBLEMS WE KNOW ABOUT ARE LISTED HERE (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm), ALONG WITH THEIR STATUS.
Groggy
11th September 2012, 12:02 AM
To Ueee and , judging from your reply to my posting, you seem to have a different belief than Neil about the colours being logged to be fixed. My angst is about basic readability, not just a cosmetic thing. If I can't read things I am not in a good position to contribute to the site as I am used to. I applaud the effort that goes into this website, and recognise that functional upgrades will be of benefit. But ignoring well documented knowledge about human visual acuity is unhelpful.
Over and out.Chrism3, I made the same observation in the admin area early this morning, as did another mod. If we can influence a change to make unread posts stand out better we will. I can tell you that for the amount of posts I read I find it a real nuisance and understand what you are saying.
For those who believe this is just a eye or monitor setting problem, think again. I use three monitors at home and it is difficult to see on all of them, as it is on my laptop and iPad.
For now though there are other tasks that need attention.
Sumbloak
11th September 2012, 08:43 AM
Looks great. Much better than the old version (which frankly was not very appealing IMHO).
Anyway, bug report. The admins may have noticed already, but since I can't see a report about it..............
My options page in the UserCP gives a php error:
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /home/woodwork/public_html/profile.php(2083) : eval()'d code(98) : eval()'d code on line 1
Warning: fetch_template() calls should be replaced by the vB_Template class. Template name: option in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 4734
Also, the Profile page appears to have some minor CSS glitches in FF15 on W7. Overlapping content. Both should be easy enough to fix. :)
ETA: Another thing is that people's avatars are not displaying in their posts. This may be related to the settings problem.
These all seem to be sorted now. If you're really fussy, .rightcol .description could do with a bit more top margin (like another 0.5em or something). Have checked in FF, Chrome and IE9. Don't have Opera installed at the moment.
Mr Brush
11th September 2012, 09:08 AM
After a short while using the new forums, only one issue really stands out to me.
Why is the thread heading on the LHS of the page (first column), and the forum it is in hard up against the opposite side of the page? These two bits of information go together. I find myself scanning the extreme right hand column to find forums I am interested in, then trying to associate thread headings on the other side of the page with these. Maybe I'll have to get a much smaller screen.......
Groggy
11th September 2012, 09:22 AM
There has been a minor colour change to a blue font in the thread listings. I find it easier to read now, hopefully others will too.
Admins made the change in the middle of the night and will make some more changes as time permits. The indexing is close to completing so we hope things will speed up a bit soon.
Groggy
11th September 2012, 09:25 AM
After a short while using the new forums, only one issue really stands out to me.
Why is the thread heading on the LHS of the page (first column), and the forum it is in hard up against the opposite side of the page? These two bits of information go together. I find myself scanning the extreme right hand column to find forums I am interested in, then trying to associate thread headings on the other side of the page with these. Maybe I'll have to get a much smaller screen.......Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.
Chief Tiff
11th September 2012, 09:32 AM
I'm having a minor drama that I don't think anyone else has listed yet...
When I reply to posts (including this one!) I keep having to save the text into notepad first...because as soon as I hit the "Post Quick Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....
Maybe it's me, maybe my software (W7 & IE), I don't know....computer luddite.
I would like to offer my gratitude to the moderators who are trying to herd all the cats required to get this upgrade online and working.
Oh, has anyone mentioned the colours yet? :rolleyes:
crowie
11th September 2012, 10:00 AM
I'm having a minor drama that I don't think anyone else has listed yet...
When I reply to posts (including this one!) I keep having to save the text into notepad first...because as soon as I hit the "Post Quick Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....
Maybe it's me, maybe my software (W7 & IE), I don't know....computer luddite.
I would like to offer my gratitude to the moderators who are trying to herd all the cats required to get this upgrade online and working.
Oh, has anyone mentioned the colours yet? :rolleyes:
Same here with drop outs on the reply attempts.....
Bryan
11th September 2012, 10:00 AM
There has been a minor colour change to a blue font in the thread listings. I find it easier to read now, hopefully others will too.
MUCH better. Thank you! :2tsup:
Groggy
11th September 2012, 10:10 AM
The dropouts are noted but should disappear when the indexing is complete. The server resources are stretched so give it another day please.
Big Shed
11th September 2012, 10:19 AM
Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.
Greg, I think Mr Brush is referring to the New Posts page and I agree that the separation of the Thread Name (first column) and the Forum Name (last column) makes it hard to scan that page. It has already improved markedly with the change from Red text for the Forum Name to Blue text. Making the Blue text Bold for the forum name, same as the Thread Title would improve things even further.
Overall though I find all the pages now much easier to read and focus on what is important and what is not.
I'm sure we'll get there in time.:2tsup:
burraboy
11th September 2012, 10:23 AM
Has anyone noticed that the dog t**d pictures are upside down?
Humphrey9999
11th September 2012, 11:50 AM
I hope that email notifications are high on the priority list, along with image thumbnails.
Or am I the only one not getting notifications?
Sir Stinkalot
11th September 2012, 12:16 PM
This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.
I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version.
This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)
Cheers
Stinky.
Groggy
11th September 2012, 12:23 PM
Stinky the Tapatalk app problem has been captured already (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm).
The other app that I use occasionally is forumRunner, it still works so you may want to try that.
Acco
11th September 2012, 12:23 PM
This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.
I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version.
This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)
Cheers
Stinky.
Stinky I use ForumRunner on both my iPhone and iPad and they are working, never did like Tapatalk.
jmk89
11th September 2012, 12:23 PM
This is my first attempt at posting on the new look forums.I have noticed, and I haven't seen mentioned yet, that the forums are no longer working on the Iphone Tapatalk app. The old version did, but neither this forum or the renovation forum work with the new version. This was posted via firefox as Tapatalk doesn't work :)CheersStinky.I believe that the Tapatalk issue was mentioned in post #45. I am sure that it will be re-activated in the near future (at least I hope so)
Sir Stinkalot
11th September 2012, 01:24 PM
Ok Thanks ...... I must have missed that it had previously been mentioned as I was trying to skip over all of the people complaining about the colours :q.
I have tried ForumRunner previously but had a preference for Tapatalk ...... just what you get used to I guess. Hopefully it can get running again in the future.
Cheers
Stinky.
pmcgee
11th September 2012, 02:53 PM
I might mention that having entered a post today, on going back to edit it ... possibly changing to Go Advanced ... it lost all the pagination and became a no CR'd block of text. It wasn't a huge deal - had to put the CRs back in - but then it was only a few lines long.
Also you would have noted that some new and old posts have images visible, but most don't.
I know you are looking at it - the pictures - i just thought the inconsistency was interesting.
Paul
Also - contrary to a message I received from the software yesterday - I did create a post today with two vimeo videos in it ... mostly by accident.
They had two almost similar URLs (different by 1 number) ... but actually came up as two instances of the first video.
I only mention it 'cos you guys probably don't have enough to do, and messing around with the software is just what you wanted to do all week.
:duck: :D
Paul
Scott
11th September 2012, 08:05 PM
Looks like the email notification part is working. Great work to all those concerned. Loving the new look and layout :)
Humphrey9999
11th September 2012, 09:42 PM
Looks like the email notification part is working.
It's not working here. Still getting zero subscription post notifications.
Mr Brush
11th September 2012, 09:50 PM
Not sure what you mean Mr Brush, which view are you in - a thread, forum listing, activity stream? Mine seems ok.
I'm in "New Posts", which is where I start out 99% of the time - easy to scan recent activity for items of interest in a variety of sub-forums.
The post heading is on the LHS of the screen, the sub-forum it relates to is as far away as possible on the extreme RHS of the screen. The sub-forum information should be right next to the post heading in the second column, so the eye goes from one directly to the other. Keep related information together for readability?
Obviously nobody else has this problem, so I'll just bugger off back to my corner.....
Ueee
11th September 2012, 10:00 PM
No Mr Brush, your not the only one, especially with no ispy and not being able to filter the new posts search. The other thing that would be really handy would be those whirlwind "mark as read" thingies on threads, so you could ignore a thread if it is of no interest to you and not have it come up in the new posts search.
In all honesty i though the upgrade was only going to be a behind the scenes thing, although i did think the thought of asking for suggestions may have been a good one, i guess the responses would be overwhelming in numbers and there would be so many opposite opinions that it wouldn't be worth while.
Groggy
11th September 2012, 10:07 PM
Sorry everyone, we have been rather busy behind the scenes. Updated issues list available here (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm) (grey is fixed). I'll put some of the more recent comments in the list later, maybe tomorrow, depending on what is happening..
engblom
11th September 2012, 10:43 PM
The upgrade made it impossible to post quick responses with my phone (Nokia N900) and Opera Mobile.
Groggy
11th September 2012, 10:52 PM
The upgrade made it impossible to post quick responses with my phone (Nokia N900) and Opera Mobile.Have you tried today - recently?
chrisb691
11th September 2012, 10:53 PM
Is there any setting to enable one to go straight into 'Advanced' when posting replies?
Woodwould
12th September 2012, 08:46 AM
I haven't read all ten pages of this thread, so it may have already been covered, but I'm not receiving email notifications. I've done all the usual things like logging out, rebooting, checking my settings etc. but to no avail.
jmk89
12th September 2012, 08:52 AM
I haven't read all ten pages of this thread, so it may have already been covered, but I'm not receiving email notifications. I've done all the usual things like logging out, rebooting, checking my settings etc. but to no avail.
We've got that one on the list
Cliff Rogers
12th September 2012, 09:15 AM
Some of the people some of the time..... :)
Mulgabill
12th September 2012, 09:30 AM
Did I miss something?? We used to be able to edit which Forums were shown in New Posts. I cannot seem to find this function any more.
Forget it, I think I have worked it out.:-
Big Shed
12th September 2012, 10:16 AM
It's not working here. Still getting zero subscription post notifications.
One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.
johnredl
12th September 2012, 10:27 AM
any idea how long before tapatalk is usable, or the mobile version is more user-friendly?
Acco
12th September 2012, 10:45 AM
any idea how long before tapatalk is usable, or the mobile version is more user-friendly?
Have you tried ForumRunner (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=forumrunner%20app&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CD0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fforum-runner-vbulletin-phpbb%2Fid362527234%3Fmt%3D8&ei=n8xPUK3KIZGUiAewjoGoCA&usg=AFQjCNFMvY3asSsbVNLnttlbxM-poW28RA)
FenceFurniture
12th September 2012, 11:03 AM
One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.
If you are using FireFox you can use the Auto-refresh add-on which is great. I don't need to get email notifications by using this. For PMs you can enable the auto-popup window (a forum facility, not Firefox) so that you get a notification as soon as it happens (combined with auto-refresh). Very slick, as it turns the system into "push" rather than "pull" for notifications.
Other browsers may have the auto-refresh facility, I couldn't comment.
Woodwould
12th September 2012, 12:18 PM
We've got that one on the list
Good-oh!
Humphrey9999
12th September 2012, 02:06 PM
One way to see new posts in subscribed threads is to click on Settings (top rh corner to the left of Log Out) this displays new posts in threads you have subscribed to.
This appears to be fixed now. I got a flurry of notifications this morning.
While I'm at it, just want to say thanks to Neil and the team for putting in all of this effort.
Must be a nightmare, but it's getting there.:2tsup:
Mulgabill
12th September 2012, 02:38 PM
Did I miss something?? We used to be able to edit which Forums were shown in New Posts. I cannot seem to find this function any more.
Forget it, I think I have worked it out.:-
Nope it did not work!
Under the old version we were able to go to UserCP/Options and edit the Forums we could view in New Posts. I have not been able to find it under this version. Is it still available?????:?
Groggy
12th September 2012, 02:41 PM
I've got a bit behind the curve here due to other stuff (150-160 spammers banned over the last few days by mods). I'll do my best to get an update done tonight. Please ensure you read THE KNOWN PROBLEM LIST (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm) before reporting new items. I've bolded the key words to help you find things faster.
EDIT - Mulgabill, the answer for now is no. It may came back later, I will ask for you.
Sigidi
12th September 2012, 02:45 PM
Great job lads, keep it up - to all the others things take time and most often have to get worse before they get better, let the lads breath and do what they do, or are people in such a mad rush that it all needs to be fixed today or they will never come back?
Yeah it took me 4-5 days to put up pics of my new sawmill, but no-one died from the suspense - give it time
Big Shed
12th September 2012, 02:47 PM
If you are using FireFox you can use the Auto-refresh add-on which is great. I don't need to get email notifications by using this. For PMs you can enable the auto-popup window (a forum facility, not Firefox) so that you get a notification as soon as it happens (combined with auto-refresh). Very slick, as it turns the system into "push" rather than "pull" for notifications.
Other browsers may have the auto-refresh facility, I couldn't comment.
Brett, the whole idea behind email notifications is that you get an email advising you that someone has replied to a thread you are subscribed to, you don't need to be on the forum at the time. Same applies to email notifications of a PM, you will know you got a PM regardless of whether you are on the forum. The auto-popup for PM only goes activated when you actually login to the forum.
Could you tell me more about the Auto refresh add-on for FF, would this work for the new Activity Stream, ie does it automatically refresh the Activity Stream page when a new post has been entered on the forum? If so it would give us iSpy back.
FenceFurniture
12th September 2012, 03:15 PM
Brett, the whole idea behind email notifications is that you get an email advising you that someone has replied to a thread you are subscribed to, you don't need to be on the forum at the time. Same applies to email notifications of a PM, you will know you got a PM regardless of whether you are on the forum. The auto-popup for PM only goes activated when you actually login to the forum.
Could you tell me more about the Auto refresh add-on for FF, would this work for the new Activity Stream, ie does it automatically refresh the Activity Stream page when a new post has been entered on the forum? If so it would give us iSpy back.
But I'm always on the forum Fred....
You can set the Auto-Refresh for about 8 pre-determined times, or go to custom. It does exactly the same thing as clicking the refresh button, so if that updates the Activity Stream then so will AR.
It's great for PMs because it will interrupt any tab that you're looking at in that execution of FireFox, with the little pop-up that can be canned for later if you want.
I have a two screen set-up here, and there have been occasions (such as during the Hand Tools Group Buy) where I have had iSpy open and visiable on the laptop screen, and my USERCP, or whatever thread I'm looking at open on the big (main) screen.
I have noticed that if you are in New Posts with AR on (a right click option will toggle it) when it refreshes after say 2 minutes, it will NOT include the new posts since then - it will just un-bold the ones that you've looked at since the last refresh, just like manually refreshing does. To get the latest posts included you have to click new posts again.
FireFox is pretty cool Fred. I switched to it about two years ago. There's an absolute stack of add-ons and plug-ins available, mostly free with a plea for donation. I use around 15 add-ons and I don't get ANY flashing ads on Newspaper sites etc, which means I actually get to be able to read the primary msg of the site (the News). I can see and block tracking sites (and there's HEAPS of them), and so it goes on.
I'm yet to determine if the Forum's new Auto-save feature preserves my text in the middle of replying. This is one down side of AR - if you don't toggle it off then you lose whatever you have just typed. I'm surprised you haven't heard me on occasion Fred, particularly when it happens 3 times in 5 minutes (yeah I'm that dopey at times). However, if you have the AR set to 2 minutes then you don't have to retype much (and if I sense a refresh coming I quickly ctrl-A and ctrl-C, and paste it back after the refresh).
There are those that would say I'm a bit AR myself.
Big Shed
12th September 2012, 03:20 PM
Thanks Brett, F5 doesn't refresh Activity Stream, neither does Auto Refresh:(, I just installed it and no go. The other features of Auto Refresh are not that important to me, so have uninstalled it again.
Yes, have been using Firefox for quite a while and use some of their add-ons.
FenceFurniture
12th September 2012, 03:25 PM
Thanks Brett, F5 doesn't refresh Activity Stream, neither does Auto Refresh:(, I just installed it and no go. The other features of Auto Refresh are not that important to me, so have uninstalled it again.
Yes, have been using Firefox for quite a while and use some of their add-ons.
Nutso. Kinda figures though. So what you need is a touch screen with a trained monkey, or are you already doing similar?
Big Shed
12th September 2012, 03:30 PM
Nutso. Kinda figures though. So what you need is a touch screen with a trained monkey, or are you already doing similar?
Watch who you're calling a trained monkey please:)
Sorta, kinda, have an icon on my Toolbar that activiates the refresh of Activity Stream it points to this
Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums
(http://www.woodworkforums.com/activity.php)
Of course the irony of it is that vBulletin knows when a new post has been put up, it even puts New Activity (x) on the csreen to let you know. You would think instead of putting that information on the screen they would just update it wouldn't you? Common sense is not as common as it once was:no:
(http://www.woodworkforums.com/activity.php)
Mulgabill
12th September 2012, 05:13 PM
...EDIT - Mulgabill, the answer for now is no. It may came back later, I will ask for you.
Thanks Greg! With a forum of this size with so many daily posts the lack of a Forum/Post filter of some sort is a real pain if it is not available.
Let me say that the "Boss", Steve and the tech guys and all the mods have undertaken a huge task. I do not envy you, Well done :2tsup:
Groggy
12th September 2012, 06:48 PM
Links seem to be harder to find in posts so if looking for an expected link move your mouse over and around the text a bit - in the mean time I'll report that too.
Groggy
12th September 2012, 07:28 PM
any idea how long before tapatalk is usable, or the mobile version is more user-friendly?Can't say John. It may be fixed when the skin issue is resolved, hopefully in the next few days but no promises.
Groggy
12th September 2012, 07:37 PM
Please ensure you read THE KNOWN PROBLEM LIST (http://groggy.homeip.net/WoodShow/WWF%20September%20Upgrade%20Issues.htm) before reporting new items. I've bolded the key words to help you find things faster.
johnredl
12th September 2012, 08:52 PM
Can't say John. It may be fixed when the skin issue is resolved, hopefully in the next few days but no promises.
I've downloaded forum runner. Up & going again. (although I did have to spend a whole $2 to stay online...good thing this is a good forum!)
Acco
12th September 2012, 09:13 PM
Links seem to be harder to find in posts so if looking for an expected link move your mouse over and around the text a bit - in the mean time I'll report that too.
Yep, this definitely needs looking at, was hoping that it'd be sorted in the pipeline, I've started making any hyperlinks I place in bold now to make them stand out.
Groggy
12th September 2012, 09:38 PM
Date
Reported
Description
Comments
Urgency
Admin Comment
9th Sep 2012
#30 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index4.html#post1549017)
Images are not being displayed.
go into settings and I get a lot of Document.write java script errors before it loads in the top frame.
HIGH
Working on this one, bear with us.
#33 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index4.html#post1549025)
The mobile site has no WWF logo's, all vbulletin images.
If you click on "full site" at the bottom of the mobile page you get page not found http://www.woodworkforums.com/forum/?styleid=36
The upgrade made it impossible to post quick responses with my phone (Nokia N900) and Opera Mobile. #146
Medium
#34 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index4.html#post1549028)
Users want iSpy back
FIXED
For those missing iSpy, try this link and put it in your favourites:
Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums
It does not automatically update, you need to refresh (I think) (http://www.woodworkforums.com/activity.php)
#37 & 50 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549042)
Settings, and then General Settings returns errors all the way to Xmas.
This is under Ie8 and mozilla
Warning: fetch_template() calls should be replaced by the vB_Template class etc
In Fact lots of errors under settings.
Top frame gives a lot of Warning: array_merge() [function.array-merge]: Argument #1 is not an array in [path]/includes/class_bootstrap.php(1419) : eval()'d code on line 79
and not many pages render properly.
Second Comment #50
Anyway, bug report. The admins may have noticed already, but since I can't see a report about it..............
My options page in the UserCP gives a php error:
Code:
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_CONSTANT_ENCAPSED_STRING in /home/woodwork/public_html/profile.php(2083) : eval()'d code(98) : eval()'d code on line 1
Warning: fetch_template() calls should be replaced by the vB_Template class. Template name: option in [path]/includes/functions.php on line 4734
Also, the Profile page appears to have some minor CSS glitches in FF15 on W7. Overlapping content. Both should be easy enough to fix.
ETA: Another thing is that people's avatars are not displaying in their posts. This may be related to the settings problem.
FIXED
Currently rebuilding the Search Engine Index which should fix the search problem.
(EDIT by Groggy: And the Settings issue too)
However, with 137,445+ threads and over 1.436 million posts this could take from an hour to all day, it may also slow down the forums slightly.
Cheers - Neil
Should be ok now, the indexing is finished.
#39 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549047)
Reply works in IE but in mozilla it will not allow me to get into the text entry for a reply.
Now I know IE will try and fix code errors before rendering but mozilla will not.
#45 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549087)
Trying to access the forums throughTapatalk (my preferred way of looking at the forums) Is impossible, still getting locked out messages
Multiple reports of this.
Medium
May be skin related.
Temporary option is to use ForumRunner. (http://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=forumrunner%20app&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CD0QFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fitunes.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fforum-runner-vbulletin-phpbb%2Fid362527234%3Fmt%3D8&ei=n8xPUK3KIZGUiAewjoGoCA&usg=AFQjCNFMvY3asSsbVNLnttlbxM-poW28RA)
#47 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549090)
The colours man, the colours.........
I've spent a bit more time on the Forum now, and the one thing that is causing me real grief is the orange text. I simply cannot read it without peering closely at the screen.
I spent a fair bit of energy at the Canberra Show extolling the virtues of the site, showing them how to navigate the site, and encouraging them to join the forum. I now feel like a fraud - if I had known this new colour scheme was coming in I would have been embarrassed to talk to them the way I did. Post #96
FIXED
Colours have been adjusted.
#51 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549108)
I went to look for a post of mine, went in to Advanced Search, selected my name from the drop down menu, clicked on Search Now and no matches were found.
FIXED
Currently rebuilding the Search Engine Index which should fix the search problem.
Should be OK now.
#53 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549135)
I think they also forgot to update by removing the display for theCanberra Timber & Working with Wood Show advertising which finished days ago .
#54 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549153)
When I went to w/w/w.woodwork/forum.com (I had to break that text with / or it just displayed the link Activity Stream... like follows ) was directed to the activity stream (Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums ) but I think it would be better to have it direct to the home page(www.woodworkforum.com/forum.php). It's a better page for newcomers to land upon.
#60 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549181)
Where did market place go?
It's at the bottom of FORUMS HELP DESK (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f159/)
Market Place and some other forums will be going under their own tabs when we can sort them out. For now I have enabled it as a full forum section which can now be found directly beneath the Musical Instruments Section, which eventually will also be on a tab, along with Metal Work, Wooden Boats and Library.
The implementation of the tabs will serve to shorten the main page of the forum so less scrolling to do down the page and bring the main page back to pretty much all woodworking related.
#63 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index4.html#post1549192)
Don't like it as much either, especially the difference between the read and unread thread colours, they are too similar.
FIXED
#70 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index2.html#post1549212)
One thing - there doesn't seem to be an icon to click to go to the User Control Panel. Or do I now just click the settings icon?
FIXED
Click the Settings Button
#82 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index5.html#post1549312)
Also note that the arrows on the side of the various fields in the USERCP are missing, the ones that would let you collapse or open the various fields.
If you can't collapse the fields, the USERCP page can be very long
#86 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index5.html#post1549319)
Any chance that the RSS feed be increased from 30 articles?
#94 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index5.html#post1549392)
I am not getting any email notification of posts to my threads
This goes for pm's too. I know Neil already knows about the pm emails.
Also #149
HIGH
#107 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index4.html#post1549494)
Not a major issue but on the previous bulletin board, I had it set so thatattachments opened in a new tabbut now they open in the current window.
Had a look through Settings/User CP but couldn't see anywhere to change this, pretty sure you could set this on the old bulletin board.
#110
Just looked into this a bit more, on my iPad, attachments previously opened in new tabs but now open in the same tab/window, and I've just tried it on my laptop and attachments open in new tabs as they did prior to the upgrade. Hmm I think I'll see if the settings on my iPad have changed or need to be reset.
Also tried doing this post via my laptop (Vista 32 bits/IE 9) and the browser just freezes when I hit reply but works ok when I use iPad has happened a few times today. (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549516)
#109 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index6.html#post1549511)
Not sure if this has been covered, and it may just be a problem with the search engine, but i have just noticed when i click on new posts i am getting all new posts, including in subforums that i have opted not to get new posts listed from.
The previous version allowed users to filter forums they did not wish to see.
Also # 116 Forum Homepage Filtering
Also #152
This was a capability coded into the iSpy script that will need to be requested for redevelopment.
#116 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index6.html#post1549558)
Could do with some new smilies
Low
#125 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index7.html#post1549681)
Why is the thread heading on the LHS of the page (first column), and the forum it is in hard up against the opposite side of the page? These two bits of information go together. I find myself scanning the extreme right hand column to find forums I am interested in, then trying to associate thread headings on the other side of the page with these.
Also post #143 & 144
#128 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index3.html#post1549694)
When I reply to posts (including this one!) I keep having to save the text into notepad first...because as soon as I hit the "Post Quick Reply" icon it freezes. I get the "woodworking forums not responding" message and I have to reload the page; often several times, and of course it loses my text-hence why I save it in another program first. Last night I tried to reply to a post and it took 7 attempts.....
Multiple reports of this.
HIGH
May be skin related.
#133 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index2.html#post1549715)
Has anyone noticed that the dog t**d pictures are upside down?
Needs a better description
#140 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index2.html#post1549788)
I might mention that having entered a post today, on going back to edit it ... possibly changing to Go Advanced ... it lost all the pagination and became a no CR'd block of text. It wasn't a huge deal - had to put the CRs back in - but then it was only a few lines long.
Also you would have noted that some new and old posts have images visible, but most don't.
I know you are looking at it - the pictures - i just thought the inconsistency was interesting.
#140 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index2.html#post1549788)
Also - contrary to a message I received from the software yesterday - I did create a post today with two vimeo videos in it ... mostly by accident.
They had two almost similar URLs (different by 1 number) ... but actually came up as two instances of the first video.
I only mention it 'cos you guys probably don't have enough to do, and messing around with the software is just what you wanted to do all week.
#148 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/index2.html#post1550052)
Is there any setting to enable one to go straight into 'Advanced' when posting replies?
Yes, it is in settings but is misbehaving.
#168 (http://www.woodworkforums.com/f36/so-sunday-forum-outage-158601/#post1550438)
Hyperlinks are hard to see in posts.
Another skin issue.
Medium
Dorno
12th September 2012, 10:23 PM
I am having heaps of trouble posting and particuly posting PM's is there a problem ? and can this be fixed /
Cheers Ian
Acco
12th September 2012, 10:24 PM
Grr just typed this on the laptop but got frozen, now using iPad.
Regarding #128
I kept getting frozen screens with IE9 numerous times on my laptop when replying to posts but using either Safari or ForumRunner on my iPad, posts or threads went through straight through everytime, hmm maybe I should try Safari on my laptop as well.
aalstin
12th September 2012, 10:29 PM
I'm not sure if this is in the right place.
I have always said "if it's not broken don't fix it"
I personally think the new forum look and just the whole way it works is a total balls up
Someone has stuffed up badly here and I apologize if I have offended anyone
But it's a bloody shemozzle
and it looks horrid on my computer
Cheers as always
AA
aalstin
12th September 2012, 10:39 PM
I think I might look in again in a few months time. This really is just too difficult. I am finding the whole site too hard to navigate or read.
Sorry guys, going to sign out for a while,
Sad really because I have enjoyed the old Forum style. It's just totally buggered now
Best wishes all, AA
Scott
12th September 2012, 10:50 PM
Two things. I think we need to deploy a change management consultant and a team of psychiatrists to deal will the issues that have arisen. C'mon all, challenge yourself, click on things, unlearn what you've learnt and find good things out of this. The white flag equals mediocrity :D
Cliff Rogers
12th September 2012, 11:35 PM
Some of the people, some of the time... :D
Chesand
13th September 2012, 07:49 AM
We should remember that this forum is free. If we paid to belong, we would have a right to complain.
Certainly offer constructive criticism but don't bellyache over minor problems.
The backroom team are obviously working hard to sort it all out.:2tsup:
whitewood
13th September 2012, 09:04 AM
I check new post in the forum most mornings. If I make an error while I'm reading posts or visiting suggested other sites and had to resign in to the forum it remembered that I had only been gone a few minutes and the 'new posts' remained basicly the same. This morning I opened the new posts but shortly after went to other sites on the forum itself to help me understand the new format. When I came back to the new posts there were only 3 all posted during the time I was away. I couldn't see an easy way to get back to the earlier posts. Is it me or the new format?
Whitewood
Big Shed
13th September 2012, 09:09 AM
Whitewood, usually that results from clicking on the Mark Forums Read option.
Groggy
13th September 2012, 09:29 AM
Advanced Editor.
It was mentioned there are problems when going from Standard Edit to Advanced Edit. What I have seen twice now is when it changes from one to the other it goes into preview post mode; if you scroll down the Advanced Edit window is there as normal.
Scott
13th September 2012, 10:31 AM
Interesting. Bob's post, located here:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f170/something-different-158868/
...displays the images! First one I've seen since the upgrade but none since :/
A Duke
13th September 2012, 10:43 AM
Hey Cliff,
At least you haven't decided it looks like a nail yet. :D
Regards
Acco
13th September 2012, 11:04 AM
Interesting. Bob's post, located here:
http://www.woodworkforums.com/f170/something-different-158868/
...displays the images! First one I've seen since the upgrade but none since :/
Think you find that Bob has inserted the image as a full size image rather than inserting a thumbnail.
issatree
13th September 2012, 12:43 PM
Hi all,
Well I'm with Crowie, Reply #104. on this new Format ? To read all the Threads & Replies I have it Zoomed 4 Times the Norm.
To fit this all on my Page the Lettering is on Font 1. Why.
I would have rathered the Old Style, as Why Fix Something That Is Not BROKEN ?
The Font ? is way to small & would have been nice for the Lettering to have been Bold.
The White Background, makes it very hard on poor sighted People.
I really loved the Old Colours.
At the moment I find that I am going Less to the Forums than before.
Why can't I see all that I have Written, instead of a 50mm. Slot ???
Another Question, What is this " Sandstorm " & how do I Preview what I am Writing Now.
It was so much easier before, even I could work it.
Ironwood
13th September 2012, 12:54 PM
Whitewood, usually that results from clicking on the Mark Forums Read option.
I unknowingly clicked on that button also. How do I turn it off ?
Cliff Rogers
13th September 2012, 02:10 PM
I check new post in the forum most mornings. If I make an error while I'm reading posts or visiting suggested other sites and had to resign in to the forum it remembered that I had only been gone a few minutes and the 'new posts' remained basicly the same. This morning I opened the new posts but shortly after went to other sites on the forum itself to help me understand the new format. When I came back to the new posts there were only 3 all posted during the time I was away. I couldn't see an easy way to get back to the earlier posts. Is it me or the new format?
Whitewood
I unknowingly clicked on that button also. How do I turn it off ?
If you go to Quick Links & click Today's Posts, you can fine what threads you missed, it won't reset the point that you had read up to, but you won't miss any threads that have been updated.
Humphrey9999
13th September 2012, 02:32 PM
Why Fix Something That Is Not BROKEN ?
I hear this all the time. It's called progress. If we all had that attitude, we'd still be scraping sticks with rocks to shape them.
Groggy
13th September 2012, 02:32 PM
You can use Activity Stream - Woodwork Forums (http://www.woodworkforums.com/activity.php) - look at the filter on the right side of the screen, it can help reduce what you see.
Groggy
13th September 2012, 02:35 PM
There is a problem with the skin that may be fixed tonight, otherwise some more drastic action may be required. uBeaut will advise once he knows more.
robbo37
13th September 2012, 05:09 PM
Glad I'm not an administrator. All seems OK to this Old Fella:2tsup:
Dengue
13th September 2012, 08:04 PM
Looks good to me too, nothing that I cannot live with. Well done guys, your efforts are appreciated. It is a big job introducing an upgrade. At least none of the old posts have been lost, and 99% of the previous functionality is still there
springwater
13th September 2012, 08:33 PM
I reckon this is shaping up all right
Steamwhisperer
13th September 2012, 09:00 PM
Considering the amount of work that goes into something like this, you blokes are doing a great job.
Phil
RETIRED
13th September 2012, 09:04 PM
If you can't find your Forum, check the top of the page AFTER pressing F5. They are being put into tabs up there.
issatree
13th September 2012, 09:06 PM
Hi Again,
I'm not actually disagreeing with the Upgrade, just the way it was done.
Pink / Light Red on White never ever worked on anything, not just The Forums.
As for you Younger Chaps & Ladies, you have to get to 75 first & then see how you go.
I'm not intending to be Insulting & I hope I worded that right.
Still no answer on that Word " Sandstorm ". Maybe nobody else know either?.
corbs
13th September 2012, 09:06 PM
Is anyone else having issues with being logged off? I am getting logged after a while (can't give an exact time frame)
Humphrey9999
13th September 2012, 09:34 PM
Email notifications are trickling through now, but seem to be lagging. Making progress.
Just had a lock-up in 'Go Advanced', but auto-save saved my text right through closing and re-opening IE. Love that feature.
:2tsup: