white oil finish

[carpinteiro]

Hello, I'm a student from Portugal. I'm working on a wood piece in white beech and I would like to finish this piece with an oil that mantain the original color of the wood. That means that I want the wood to be or, in the original color ( natural ) or if its possible to whitening the wood ( not with a paint but with an oil ).
I'll share some images with the finish that I'm persuing.

http://www.kristensen.dk/media/48508/c6.jpg
http://www.delaespada.com/data/Files/5f3070e897b7aa1f50e878e0ee6d2080

thanks in advance,
Best regards from Portugal :)

[tea lady]

Hi There!

Oil finishes usually darken the wood. And the lightest you will get will be the same as if the wood was wet. White shellac will give the lightest finish! Or sprayed laquer, which you can matt down. Wood will also go darker where it is exposed to light! :shrug: So might yellow over time anyway! Haven't worked in White beech though! :shrug:

[tea lady]

Just looked at the pic of the wood.. That looks like it has been "limed". Don't know much about that! :shrug:

[AngelaPetruzzi]

You can use a white oil, the LIVOS Kunos white has the white pigments that actually get trapped in the pores of the timber. This then maintains its original sanded look. the product though has enough waxes and resins to seal it. do not sand the first coat too finely otherwise not much of the pigments with remain and then you won't achieve the lovely limed look.
The product is a German product but it is available in Spain so maybe Portugal as well.
White beech is popular in Europe. we had it on our floor in Switzerland and actually had it white oiled too......i personally do not like darker timbers on floors.
I have tried to upload a photo of two chests of drawers oiled in the white oil by Neil Scobie from Bucca Creek but it does not seem to have worked....sorry. I will have it put on our web site and you can have a look there.
Hi Tea lady, I think we are in the same area. would love to show you how the white oil works.

[tea lady]

Hi Tea lady, I think we are in the same area. would love to show you how the white oil works.Never seen white oil. Would be interesting!

But we could just meet for coffee too.:D

[Jim Carroll]

TL it works well , have a cuppa with Angela and see the results.

I have seen some of the peices Neil has used the oil on and it certainly whitens the peice.

[tea lady]

Does it work on Tassie oak? Got a little project that is on the back burner cos I couldn't conceive of how to finish it!:U

[tea lady]

I found a pic of white oil on a floor on the Livos web site but can't find any info. Got a link?

[dr4g0nfly]

Likewise I don't know of a white oil but Liming Wax as mentioned by Tea Lady can be used over any finish as long as there is some grain for it to get into,
Liming Wax (http://www.chestnutproducts.co.uk/results.php?cat=Waxes).

No idea if this brand is available in Spain but I've seen 'Limed' kitchen cabinets over there so must be something like it.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

Carpinteiro,
contact Peter Mayer
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he can tell you if there is someone in Portugal or post it to you if need be.

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It works on any surface that is porous......but....it will depend on the look that you are after. on tas oak, being a darker timber can look good but also can look cloudy. if you had an off cut, I'm happy to sand and oil it in white for you and see if that is the look you are after.
Need to figure out how to attach pics from my computor but if you email me, can send the picture thru email attachement.....and coffee anytime.

Jim
Yep, Neil's work is just magnificent but then again, so is the work Liz does.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

Photo had to be resized and is now attached. Two beautiful chest of drawers oiled in the Kunos white be Neil Scobie.

[AlexS]

Missed this earlier, but I use Livos Kunos oil over white shellac, and find little if any darkening on timbers such as silver ash and Australian white beech.

[Mr Brush]

That's a useful one to file away in the old noggin - I was trying to find a finish that would leave American Ash as light as possible. I guess it wouldn't work so well on a really tight-grained timber like Rock Maple though?

AlexS - does kunos over white shellac prevent the Silver Ash going slightly yellowish over time?

Angela - I've got various Livos products in the small sampler size bottles to try, but do they offer the kunos white in this size?

Cheers

[tea lady]

Oooh! A timely resurrection. Doing a turned box in white maple and wanted a way to keep it as white as possible., :cool:

[AlexS]

Mr. B, yes, it seems to. Best thing I've found, anyway.
It's not cheap, but Icut it 50/50 with bio thinners from the same people.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

Mr Brush,
Yes the Kunos white come is the little sample pot sizes. As do all the other colours/stains.
Tea lady,
Maybe time to come and visit. You are not far.
AlexS
Try it next time without diluting it. You will be surprised at the result. Actually when you see the sq mt rates of the various coats, it isn’t as expensive as you think.

[Mr Brush]

Thanks Angela - that makes it easy to give the stuff a try :2tsup:

Alex - fortunately I already have some of the kunos thinners, so I'll use that as you suggest. That reminds me; I need to top up supplies of Ubeaut white shellac at the WWW show in Sydney !

I've never been really sure how the kunos thinners is intended to be used. One person told me that the first coat of livos oil should be thinned 50:50 with their thinners then subsequent coats used full strength, but others have told me there is no need to do this? I believe Bungendore gallery sell little pots of thinned livos oil for maintenance of pieces they have sold.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

Mr Brush, Yes it the Kunos white and other stains are available in the small sample pot sizes.
Tea Lady, maybe it is time for a visit. We are in your neck of the woods.
AlexS, Good to hear. Have you tried it without diluting it? You may be pleasantly surprised. When you work out the coverage rate (especially over large areas/projects) it is actually very economical.
Dilution is good if you were to spray it.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

OK I need a holiday or new glasses. for the life of me I thought I replied then didn't even see it. apologies for the double post.

[AngelaPetruzzi]

The thinner is used to dilute the product to make it easier to spray, depending on the type of spraying device one has.
There is the perception too that by diluting it, the oil penetrates depeer. In actual fact it just dilutes the oil/wax/resin. If you dont sand the first coat too fine, then cut inbetween the coats with finer paper, one is able to achieve better penetration and a glossier fine furniture feel and look.